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Games Radar: The evolution of water effects

It's probably a toss up between water and skin for the 'most difficult thing to replicate on a computer'. But at least water effects can look pretty even when they're done unrealistically. So here Games Radar looks back over how water effects have progressed over the last 20 or so years. If you can't swim, best keep a few feet back from the screen, just in case.

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unrealgamer586020d ago

i love the water and face expressions in uncharted

Xi6020d ago

in uncharted, i personally think that fluid dynamics and 3d waves make water a lot better, water in halo 3 looked better than uncharted.

BulletToothtony6020d ago

has to be in tne top 10 ultimate fanboy comments..

obviously dude you don't have an hdtv, or a ps3 for that matter.. the water looks awesome in uncharted

it's clear, there's reflection and there's even fish in it.. so i would just stop hating if i was you. it's a great game, not only the way it looks but the gameplay as well

marinelife96020d ago

I'm sorry but when I first saw the ocean pics in Lair I had to put it up as a desktop background.

wil4hire6020d ago

Uncharted uses 8 pass fluid dynamics to generate the ripples as drake walks through the water. It also calculates buoyancy for when enemies fall or while swimming. To top that all off, there is water resistance when your character runs deep into it.

Perhaps if you played that game, ever. You would see what all reviewers are talking about.

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solar6020d ago

to me the way water and lighting in this generation looks tells me the gen is at least improving. i knew bioshock and uncharted would be on the list since both look amazing and are leaps and bounds greater than other games so far. pure beauty.

Hydrollex6020d ago

The graphics beat every single game out there. If you haven't see the graphic don't disagree me.

Double-Edged6020d ago

i disagree.
Uncharted. their skin still looks like plastic.
And I've seen the gameplay.
the water splashes are not revolultionary at all.

Vip3r6020d ago

Mass Effect looks plastic too so I'd keep those fanboy comment to yourself.

Keyser6020d ago

you should be a shame of yourself. I wonder what you were thinking when you typed your comment, "This will piss a lot of guys off."

Come on man, we're gamers. Cut the crap.

Halo 3 and Bioshock have good looking water but I think Uncharted tops the "charts". It's very realistic.

You got to respect the developers who think about the little things that we gamers do when we're playing a game. Especially how when he gets in the water and comes out wet based on what part of his clothing actually was in the water.

Props to Naughty Dog for a great game. I hope you enjoy my 60 bucks.

Skerj6020d ago

Great list, I agree with it very much except for the lack of HL2. Uncharted's water is hands down the best, no one should be disputing that.

motang6020d ago

When I took graphics programming class, water was the most difficult to program. It also the difficult to make water look like it does in real life as it is very unpredictable as to how it moves. We were using OpenGL in that class, and it is really amazing what game programmers have done in for instance in BioShock, Super Mario Galaxy, Drake's Fortune to name a few.

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Bioshock: A Rapturous Revelation

Hey Poor Player's James Davie Takes Us On A Bio-Shocking Deep Dive Into Irrational Games' Nautical Nightmare.

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Five Nights at Freddy’s, SAG/Aftra News, Bioshock And More Skewedcast

Gareth, Justin, and Michael at Skewed and Reviewed look at timely and topical entertainment news on their latest show including the latest video game movie and news of another in the works.

ROCKY28198d ago

The movie was absolutely garbage !!!
BH needs to do better - since Halloween Ends - Exorcist , Freddy is Shyte - STOP IT !!!!

Garethvk197d ago

Didn't the creator write it? It also made a fortune based on the budget so from a business standpoint it is a massive success.

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Why BioShock Deserves the Dead Space Remake Treatment

Dead Space recently received a popular remake that was faithful yet constructive, and the original BioShock is also deserving of this treatment.

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banger88406d ago

No it doesn't need it. It was remastered in 60 fps last gen and still looks and plays great. Would be a waste of time, money and resources imo. It's games from 3 or 4 gens back that could use the remake treatment.

FallenAngel1984406d ago

There have already been 7th gen remakes of games already

Dead Space in particular already proves that just because a game looks good on original hardware doesn’t mean it cant look and play better

Jin_Sakai406d ago

Agreed although I’m ready for some new groundbreaking IP this generation.

IamTylerDurden1406d ago (Edited 406d ago )

Agreed. Remasters already happened and still look n play fantastic. DS was a different animal. It needed a remake, Bioshock doesn't NEED it. Infinite Remastered for example is extremely viable even today. What we do need is Bioshock 4. Rumors that equated to zip. Where is it? Ken really blew the pooch as well. Left to go do what? He was inspired by Tell Tale or something and went off to become irrelevant. Nice. And Bioshock Vita was scrapped. Fantastic.

toxic-inferno405d ago

Bioshock 4 is definitely still in development. News trickles out about it every couple of months.

And Ken's next game (Judas) looks great from the teaser trailer.

IamTylerDurden1406d ago (Edited 406d ago )

Yeah. Pretty much. I understand why they did it with TLOU to coincide with the show but certainly it didn't NEED a remake desperately. Obviously u are trolling and expect me defend anything Sony but idgaf about all that. I say what i feel is the truth.

Just like TLOU i wouldn't be upset if Bioshock received a remake but it doesn't desperately need it. I'd probably even play it bc like TLOU, i love Bioshock, but in these aren't identical scenarios either. Ppl kill ND for TLOU Remake yet it wasn't even their project originaly. It started as a potential Uncharted remake and passion project via Visual Arts and was passed to Bend i believe? ND took over bc the project obviously wasn't where it needed to be. And yet they still had Factions and possibly TLOU 3 in development as well. Bioshock has been dormant for a decade bar the remaster. Rumors of a sequel haven't materialised. A remake without a sequel would be disappointing. TLOU Remake is more tolerable knowing sequel/spinoffs are in development. Like i said, dif situation.

neutralgamer1992405d ago

It's not all about looks only

Tweaks to story
Tweaks to characters
Improvements to gameplay

Original bioshock have the worst puzzle solving system and can get frustrating quickly

WiiU-Dude405d ago

The last part you said I agree COMPLETELY!!! Game companies need to mine games from the Sega Saturn, PS1 and N64 days and even the Dreamcast, GameCube, and PS2 days to give a full update to. I know those would require more work, but there are PLENTY of gems from those days that people would LOVE to play again or for the first time with a facelift!!! I know I would.

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Binarycode406d ago

The games that need remaking are.

Resistance fall of man.
Motorstorm.

PS5 would produce something special.

There's been such an advancement in tech since the PS3 days. It would be awesome. DAY 1 BUY for me.

Storm23406d ago

I would kill for Resistance 1-3 Remake/Remaster. Same with MotorStorm series and Killzone series. Man, I loved my PS3. Can we also get the Metal Gear series and rescue MGS4 off the PS3? There is a rumor of MGS3 getting a remake. One of, if not my number 1, favorite game of all time.

On topic, I played Bioshock like 6 months after release after hearing from everyone and their mother how incredible it was. I know I will be in the minority on this, but I couldn't get into it. I think my expectations were too high. Totally my fault. Maybe I should give it another chance...

IamTylerDurden1406d ago (Edited 406d ago )

Agreed, Killzone as well, but Sony has no interest in the future of those IP. It won't happen. If they cared about Motorstorm they wouldn't have axed Evolution. The last remaster from a dead studio "Wipeout" was exceptional yet nobody supported it. Even with a free VR inclusion. If ppl want these remasters...actually support the ones that release. Medievil same thing. Ppl cried for Demon's Souls Remake, The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3 and the sales didn't match the cries. None of these games sold as u would imagine given the internet pleas for these titles over a decade or more. DeS Remake did alright but given the circumstances it should've sold better. 92 Meta, PS5 launch exclusive, stunning visuals, and the first of the genre in an age where Eldin Ring will push 30 million units. Yes, DeS is only one platform but still.

Binarycode404d ago

I do agree mostly with what you said.

I bought killzone,2,3. Did not like 4 other then it's graphics.

I bought infamous 1,2. Second son never did it for me apart from again the graphics, so parts were good. But world felt too empty. Probably needed a PS5 to do it justice.

Bought all the Resistance and Motorstorms, those games were awesome. They 100% need a remake.

PS3 was just an awesome machine, I know it was a pain to develop for, but it had some many titles that I loved.
I really enjoyed the Bioshock series, the first 2 were best. Very good games.

As for Demon souls.and the souls series in general. They never have had massive sales. I think because they are very hard games. we are talking a million or less. I think the remaster did 1.4million.

Motorstorm pacific rift did 1.4million PS3.I think.

Hopefully some of them will come back.

-Foxtrot406d ago

I would love this

Expand on the lore

Incorporate Bioshock Infinite and Bioshock 2 plot lines

Add room rooms or maybe even an extra area

Maybe new plasmids

Give Jack a personality and add voice acting, it worked for Isaac. Jack did speak at the start of the game so adding onto that and giving him convos between Atlas or Ryan would be great

Aussiesummer406d ago

Man could you imagine what bioshock would look like in ue5 with full raytracing, phwaaarrrhh.

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