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Blackbible responds to GamingBolt.com's claim about Uncharted 3 Beta

GamerFitNation's BlackBible formerly ranked number 1 in the world for kills in Uncharted 2 responds to Gamingbolt.com's claim about Uncharted 3 Beta

Read full story to see a list of issues found within the Uncharted 3 Beta. GamerFitNation believes that most of you will agree with our claims.

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LOGICWINS4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

I've been killed a lot by blindfire and I've killed a lot with blindfire. It doesn't bother me to be honest.

There was TONS of blindfire in the summer beta(most people who got the most kills in matches were using the Arm Micro to get easy kills with no aim) so I don't understand why people are complaining about it now.

If some dudes running a circle around you while blindfiring at you, why in the hell would you try to aim at him? Your pretty much asking to die in that scenario.

@Blackbible- Your right about the level design being a factor that tempts people to use blindfire more in Uncharted 3 as opposed to Uncharted 2. If you take a map like "The Temple" in Uncharted 2, you won't see much blindfire because the map is one HUGE square that generally leaves a lot of distance between players.

Although, UC3 maps are open as well, these maps have tight interior spots were players have to duke it out close quarters.

jetlian4618d ago

know what blind fire is? its when you shoot while on a wall without aiming down sights. If they are running and gunning thats shooting from the hip. blind fire accuracy is way to high

NewMonday4618d ago

Their is no perfect recipe For MP, their will always be issues for some, as long as the same tools are available for all, players just have to adapt.

jetlian4618d ago

after reading a lot of post on here seem most are talking about hip fire which i'm fine with. Now behind a wall aka blind fire needs fixing

nveenio4617d ago

The truth about being shot at with an automatic weapon is that you'll probably be hit, whether the shooter is aiming down the sights or not. So it sounds to me like the complaint is that the blind-firing and shooting from the hip just aren't "Hollywood" enough. I think that's a valid complaint for single-player. For multi-player? Well, you should have to earn surviving such onslaughts. We can't all be the hero.

Heartnet4617d ago (Edited 4617d ago )

dude blind firing is the term used when UR blind firing lol not the character. Hip Fire is still firing blind cuz u have no reticle.. maybe not to ur avatar but U are :)

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WhiteLightning4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

I don't get it LOGICWINS what's with the sudden change of heart. You were agreeing with me like a day ago about how it's broken and now your going on about people complaining still.

Like the guy says were complaining because we want it be good as we want it to don't feel the need to change sides because people see you as a "whinner". Even the patch they've just released dosen't make it seem any closer to the Summer Beta.

EDIT: Oh I have

I just like commenting on here....because...well you know, it's a commenting section on a game website

Gamer30004618d ago

hey i always agree with you
but this time i'm not
what you do here will not help the MP to get better
if you have problems go to ND forums
and say those problems there
give them feedback
you only feed the trolls with all what you do here

LOGICWINS4618d ago

"You were agreeing with me like a day ago about how it's broken and now your going on about people complaining still."

BEFORE the patch I agreed with you. I'm owning now..so the game is awesome.

elshadi4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

white
did you played the game after the patch ???
bec i didn't find any problems with it after the patch at all
even in Noughty dog forums every one is happy after the patch and what games3000 said is right
you are not helping Noughty dog to see your problems
you are only helping the trolls in N4G

EDIT:ahhhhh fairy disagrees from the trolls
go ahead and knock your self out like i care

thePatriot4618d ago

I will not comment or give my opinion since I haven't played the game yet or the beta. Your mind = BLOWN

BLACKBIBLE4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

If you feel differently please explain I'd love to discuss this topic. With those you make valid points. @logicwins it's because no one is really shooting anymore, don't get me wrong I'm very good at getting Gunslinger, commando's, and spray and pray's but at the same time I have to agree that the lack of striaght on shooting is making the game a shoot and punch fest!

Tarantino_Life4618d ago

Its also important that you accept that a lot of ppl are not getting these spray kills anymore after the patch and are also enjoying the beta as it is now and not have any alterations again. It makes sense that when you are less then medium range hip firing should be more accurate. While I respect that you have a problem with that you should also respect that a lot of ppl dont have a problem with the way the beta is playing now. Its not a question of whether ND can do no wrong. Of course they can but it is important to respect the opinion of ppl who currently like the beta as it is and do not want the changes you are suggesting and not brush it of comparing it to something silly like rooting for a home team

LOGICWINS4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

"...but at the same time I have to agree that the lack of striaght on shooting is making the game a shoot and punch fest!"

There are many options to kill someone in Uncharted 3. I don't see why people believe that players should HAVE to get the majority of kills by shooting straight in order for the game to be deemed "fair".

When you spend $60 on a game, you have the right to play it the way you want it as long as you don't have an unfair advantage over anyone else.

Every player has the option to camp, blindfire, shoot straight etc. It's their business which one they like to use the most.

Someone blindfires at you...you blindfire at them back. Someone aims at you, you aim at them back. Simple.

Number_134618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

weak dude
Using the fact that you paid $60 as an excuse for the game having a broken mechanic is pretty drenched in weak sauce.
Why not just admit that the game needs tweaking? Where's the skill in blind fire and punching your way to victory? Very noobish

LOGICWINS4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

Whats weak? Giving players the choice of shooting their gun the way they want to shoot it? How is that broken? LOL, are u serious?! Thats logical!

What do you want? ND to tie everyones hand behind their back and take away the ability to blindfiring.

I get a CRAZY amount of kills by simply blindfiring with my handgun and then hitting my enemy. I got first place on the Syria map right after the patch by doing that. And guess what, I had fun. You guys act as if people who blindfire are invincible somehow lol.

I think if UC3 beta players want to critique something they should ask ND why characters can survive a 150ft drop, but getting pulled down from a 10ft ledge is instant death!

Gamer30004618d ago

@Number_13
why are you in ps3 article ???
you don't own the console .. so why you here ???

and i agree with you @LOGICWINS
and after the patch the MP is awesome again

rob60214618d ago

I agree with Logic, I'm sick of this old tired argument that 'aim' in shooters should always be the end all/be all in competitive gaming. Honestly it just makes every game play the same and it just makes me feel like i'm playing the same damn game with a new coat of paint. There are hundreds of games you could go play to get the aim=skill games you guys seek, go play something else; you are not short on options.

And boy does it upset the people who are really good at shooters when you try to mess with the formula.

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Ares904618d ago

100% agree.
I have been many times in this situation
Me, taking cover and shooting. Enemy just runs towards me blindfiring and kills me with a melee hit.
Tell me that is okay...

And don't get me wrong people. I LOVE UNCHARTED as much as Blackbible or any fan does.

LOGICWINS4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

"Me, taking cover and shooting. Enemy just runs towards me blindfiring and kills me with a melee hit.
Tell me that is okay..."

Whats wrong with that? You screwed up because you should have had a better view of your surroundings while taking cover. Thats why theres a 360 degree camera so you can see whats going on around your from all angles.

If I saw you in that situation, I would have blindfired or fragged you. Thats one of the risks of taking cover and shooting in REAL life as well as the virtual world. Someone can easily kill you from behind.

This isn't a new concept. It applies to ANY third person shooter that has a cover mechanic.

Number_134618d ago

Lol Logic, please don't bring real life into this, in real life a man cannot take a hundred shots in the chest and live to joke about it.

Ares904618d ago

@logic
There's nothing wrong with blindfire + melee as long as you are in a very close range to the enemy. This happens on Uncharted 2 also...
My problem, and the problem of many other players, is the distance the enemy is blindfiring, it makes no sense.

dantesparda4618d ago

I agree with Logicwins, i hate hearing people complain about campers, and shot guns, and this and that. If they can do it then you can do. I always strive to take out those who fvcked with me, and do it. Unless they are doing something that you cant do (some form of cheat) then i dont care. You play however it works best for you!

LOGICWINS4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

"Lol Logic, please don't bring real life into this, in real life a man cannot take a hundred shots in the chest and live to joke about it"

Number13, thats not only real life. Thats common sense in ANY third person shooter with a cover system. If someone gets you from behind while your in cover, 9 times out of ten your screwed! Thats not a technical flaw, thats just a risk ANY player has to take when they're in cover.

elshadi4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

Number_13
"Lol Logic, please don't bring real life into this, in real life a man cannot take a hundred shots in the chest and live to joke about it. "

so you take one shot in gears and then you are dead ???

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WhiteLightning4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

Greta video BLACKBIBBLE

Although I do disagree with one little thing

You say it's ND, that they'll listen and that they will fix it BUT......they only had to tweak a few small things in the Summer Beta they never got round to doing so WHY did they have to change everything they got nearly perfect after the third patch they released near the end of the Summer Beta. If they were listening they would of fixed only what needed to be fixed and left the rest of the stuff alone. Do you know what I mean, them changing the already improved content seems a bit funny, like something is going on....I mean no one would do that after all that hard work and feedback you would of had to go through.

BLACKBIBLE4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

This is my last thought bubble and I have to say... you're right! I was thinking to myself when I 1st played the subways beta "Somethings is wrong and off with this game" In the 1st beta I was going nuts and getting a shit load of kills, but in this one I was feeling like it was too fast at times then felt there were delays in the actions of my A.I.

I soon realized that the wasn't tweaked, it was completely changed from the one in the 1st Beta. If any of you want to speak to me further about this, feel free to speak to comment on the article at GamerFitNation.com. Where I can answer.

Tarantino_Life4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

@Whitelightning - What is the change you would like? Reduce blind fire accuracy? Improve gun accuracy? Reduce health? Reduce speed? Unless you specify these things in the ND forums ND will not change. For every complaint in this forum http://www.naughtydog.com/s... there is a compliment such as
"Posted by: gsecrist83 on 10-05-2011
Excellent update! Feels much more like the July beta. Thanks for caring about us fans!"

"Posted by: Knobby_Peteers on 10-05-2011
is this a patch or has everything magically changed?"

You also have ppl complaining that patch ruined it and the original subway beta was better. Case in point

"But why did both Stopping Power AND recoil have to get changed? The recoil made shooting take more skill and made the game feel like a new game, not just a copy/paste game mechanics job. The AK-47 was completely fine, as was the G-Mal; they just both needed stopping power to make aiming take prevalence over “running and gunning”.
With both stopping power added and the recoil removed (which it essentially is) the game feels out of whack."

How do you possibly expect them to make any change if one likes the original summer beta, one person likes the UC2 mp, one person likes the original subway beta and one person likes the subway patched beta. Atleast provide your solution to the forums and lets hope ND responds

MrSpace4618d ago

Don't kid yourself Tarantino_Life there is still a load of people complaining. Those "compliments" come up here and there

I'm always on that fourm all the time and trust me theres been hardly any difference to peoples reactions.

Like many others on here there kidding themselfs, the beta is still unbalanced. If someone like BlackBible is saying this aswell then come on take a note here.

The online is a blind fire mess......I mean I've seen people blindfire someone from high above still

Honestly it's like you can't say anything bad about Uncharted and ND on here. For christ sake guys this is why we don't have nice things because people put on a fake smile and put up with what ever a developer gives them.

phantomexe4618d ago (Edited 4618d ago )

Same feeling i got and i messed around on it awhile. The subway beta wasn't right. I love uncharted and will be there at midnight to get it but the mutiplayer isn't right yet but i think ND will fix.

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FamilyGuy4618d ago

Holy shit dude, I remember you VERY WELL in Uncharted 2. Video was spot on btw, NaughtyDog listens, all people have to do is speak up, getting feedback is the main point of having a beta.

jack_burt0n4617d ago

logic and rob are spot on, if the game gets broken again like uncharted 2 there will be NO reason to play this over COD/Gears.

Platforming is crucial part of the game if you dumb it down with making long guns overpowered for noobs traversal BECOMES BROKEN>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>FFS

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Dart894618d ago

I just got off playing a few a games and i tried blind firing and not once did i get a kill.All my kills came from aiming and duking it out.

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Analyzing 'Uncharted: Drake’s Deception' – Wait, What is The Game About?

Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception has a lot to live up to as Uncharted 2: Among Thieves is an incredible and near-perfect game.

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Profchaos940d ago

It's about retirement...oh wait

UNCHARTED2FANATIC940d ago (Edited 940d ago )

I cant even say what the point was its easily the worst story in the series. The online was a whole lot of fun though but overall doesn't come even close to 2

porkChop940d ago (Edited 940d ago )

It was a step back for sure. Personally, I thought even the MP was way better in U2. Solid game, glad I played it. I just think they didn't push as hard as they did with U2.

UNCHARTED2FANATIC936d ago

Yes both the online and story was better in 2 no doubt

Flewid638940d ago

The "young Drake" portion was pretty top notch, story-wise. But yeah, everything outside of that I felt was inferior.

DanielEndurance940d ago

Villains were all over the place in this… one second they wanted Drake dead, the next they needed him, then they want him dead again, then they coulda killed him, but poisoned his friend instead, then coulda shot him again, but had brunch with him, then needed him alive, then coulda mowed him down, but decided to kill him by fire and let him escape… Uncharted 2 was way better. 😅😅

slowgamer940d ago

=D Sounds crazy. I don't remember any of that. Played it on ps3 and I remember thinking that why was this game so bashed compared to second one. I liked it.

Chocoburger940d ago (Edited 940d ago )

Another thing that annoyed me about UC3 events was the agent Talbot teleporting around Turkey. It just felt off to me, and made no sense.

Also, for about one third of the game, you go on a wild goose chase to rescue Sully, who wasn't even there to be rescued, and you end up back where you started again. There was simply no pay off for all the events you go through, so it fell flat in that regard as if they couldn't figure out how to make the game longer, so they decided to side-track you to do something with no pay off, hoping you wouldn't notice due to all the incredible action set pieces they made.

Overall though, even with its flaws, I still enjoy the game.

TheEnigma313940d ago

This was actually my least favorite in the series. Didn't have that same impact that part 2 set.

Flewid638940d ago

Uncharted 2 is the pinnacle of the series (to me).

Granted, 4 had the best story in my opinion, but 2 was the overall best game.

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Uncharted 3 Anniversary Retrospective: Shackled By Its Precursor's Legacy

A decade after its release, how does Uncharted 3 fare today? Does its story still work? Was its precursor’s legacy a bedrock or quicksand for its own aspirations?

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SullysCigar941d ago

When arguably the weakest game in the series is still awesome and more fun than most games today, you know you're onto a winner!

coolbeans941d ago

I'd extend "arguably" before awesome too. Many technically demanding scenes were jaw-dropping for the time, but it's tough to ignore the sub-par context propelling the action forward.

SullysCigar941d ago

Tough for you, perhaps, and that's fine. I enjoyed it very much. Perhaps a little less than the others in the series, but then the bar is extremely high.

I remember being blown away by the water and sand tech in U3 for the time too. It certainly was a visual treat!

LucasRuinedChildhood941d ago (Edited 941d ago )

It is very good, but when I originally played Uncharted 3 it was the most disappointed I'd ever been in a video-game because Uncharted 2 was just that good. I enjoyed 3 much more when I replayed it in the Nathan Drake Collection though. I could just enjoy it for what it is and accept that it's not Uncharted 2 - it's not a roller coaster, and it doesn't balance and rotate between action, puzzles, platforming and set-pieces in the same way.

Uncharted 3's gameplay is a bit more compartmentalized and focused on one thing at a time. I'm not surprised the scrapped version of Uncharted 4 was going to have no gunplay for the first half. It's also paced much differently - it takes a long time to get to the notable set-pieces. Uncharted 2 is insane from Nepal onwards which is about an hour into the game. haha.

I did like the introduction of chase sequences, and I love first hour (bar fight, young Drake) and from the airplane sequence onwards but I just think the rest of it just sort of meanders along without as much purpose as 2.

When it comes to the script, you can feel the absence of Neil Druckmann and Josh Scherr (writer on every other console Uncharted game). Drake gets hit in the face, and the game goes on a random side plot for an hour to give you some boat set-pieces. He then washes up on a beach close to where Elena is staying to get you back to the real plot. Drake just says "How convenient" to try make you laugh off how sloppy the plot got.

In retrospect, I'm not sure if Naughty Dog were ready to work on 2 different games at once. 3 clearly had production issues that 1 and 2 didn't have, and Hennig's version of 4 didn't work out. They had to crunch so hard to get the rebooted version done on time that Bruce Straley gave up making video-games.

coolbeans941d ago

I'll give you some props for the extra analysis. I remember Druckmann climbing his way to a writer spot in UC2, but wasn't aware of Josh Scherr. I didn't know that was the reason for Straley's departure either. That's pretty damn rough.

GhostofHorizon941d ago

They had to make some weird choices as far as story went because the actor for Cutter had to bail which left a few holes in the story.

Uncharted is one of my favourite series and while the leap from 2 to 3 was not nearly as big as the leap from 1 to 2, I think it was an amazing experience none the less.

coolbeans941d ago

Graham McTavish's departure wasn't easy, but I don't think that would fix many holes tbh. Because the main issue to consider is the precarious mindset Naughty Dog was operating on: an increased emphasis in set pieces that HAD to go in and worrying about the context later.

Petebloodyonion941d ago

I really liked part 3 ( Among Thieves is still the best in my opinion) My only complaint was the interactions with the villains and how they were a missed opportunity, Linda MacMahon (Marlowe) was an interesting antagonist due to the history with Sully and Nate but it fails basically flat especially with her ending. And I couldn't care about Navaro 2.0.

What I did love and made me care was Cutter, in the short time he was in the game you could feel that the guy was a good treasure hunter for example when he pulled his own notebook with the clues he founds so the team can escape a room.
It was a small touch that add a lot to the character.

Good-Smurf941d ago

Marlowe was played by Rosalind Ayres.

MadLad941d ago (Edited 941d ago )

I have mixed feelings on the series. I still own all of them on the PS3, and the collection for PS4, but I didn't truly "love" any of the games until 4.

They're good games, but they always stumble on some element.
The first is good, but the climbing mechanics weren't exactly fine tuned with the first showing. Not to mention the spongey enemies if you played on anything past normal; but you're then faced with a fairly unchallenging game experience.
The second mostly fixed the climbing, but added in a pretty clumsy stealth mechanic.
Three was just two with a new story.

Four got it right though.
I don't remember once getting annoyed by any mechanic had in the game.

I know that everyone has a soft spot for 2, and 3 is sort of the black sheep of the series; but they did, overall, get progressively better. Which doesn't always happen.

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Ranking the Uncharted Games From Worst to Best

KeenGamer: "Which Uncharted game is the best? Uncharted is widely recognized as one of the most groundbreaking and consistently great franchises in gaming. For both long-time fans and newcomers to this action-adventure classic, here’s a ranking of the franchise’s four main games."

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Kyizen1040d ago

UC 2, 4, 3 and 1. Great read and article

ABizzel11039d ago

No Golden Abyss -_-, otherwise I agree with the order.

UC2: Best overall
UC4: Best graphics, best gameplay, best locations, best environements
UC3: Best set pieces IMO (the boat and desert fights will always be amazing)
UC1: A rough Draft of what was to come
UCGA: Basically UC1 on Vita

Levii_921040d ago (Edited 1040d ago )

Great list and great article nicely writen and explained. Although for me personaly i would put Drakes Fortune above Drake’s Deception and Uncharted 4 is absolutely my favourite of the franchise and number 1 for me.

Inverno1039d ago

U2 is the only game playable on crushing without causing a great amount of frustration. Not to mention just how much influence it had that they redid some of U2s set pieces like the caravan twice, and armored truck chase in U4.

DFresh1039d ago (Edited 1039d ago )

I'd rate it as the following.

1.) Uncharted 2
(Close to perfection of any game I've played in years. Single Player/Multiplayer/Co Op all amazing.)

2.) Uncharted 3
(On par with UC2 multiplayer/co op wise minus the kickbacks [aka killstreaks]. I really liked the Lawrence of Arabia story.)

3.) Uncharted 4
(Single player is amazing. Multiplayer was meh. Co Op had potential. Absolutely hated the health revive system it slowed down the game way too much. Always preferred the fast pace action of UC2/UC3. Made it way more fun that way. Recoil was too ridiculous that most people in lobbies would only do hip firing, using power weapons and using that OP grappling hook to melee people after dropping them. Nobody wanted to revive anyone.)

4.) Uncharted
(It's the first in the series so it's hard to judge. Though I loved the story.)

NecrumOddBoy1039d ago

I agree here but it’s also a series you can play from front to back and truly enjoy. Story-wise, they are all great and flow so well. I wish they threw both Golden Abyss and Lost Legacy on this list. Lost Legacy is the best mechanically in my opinion. You can see it’s stepping stone framework for TLOUS2.

Michiel19891039d ago

uncharted 2 is one of the few games that actually surpassed its pre-release hype.

medman1039d ago (Edited 1039d ago )

I am a single player gamer...I barely ever touch a multiplayer component. The only exceptions over the years have been the Mass Effect 3 multiplayer, TLOU factions, and the Uncharted 2 multiplayer. The Uncharted 2 multiplayer saw me spend more time playing it than all my other multiplayer experiences over the years combined. That game really was a masterpiece all around.

brando0081039d ago

I agree completely, those are all stellar MP experiences, coming from another SP gamer who only occasionally gives MP some time.

Gardenia1039d ago

Come to think of it, the step between Uncharted 1 and Uncharted 2 is huge. It goes from the weakest in the series to one of the best games ever made.
I think I'm going to play all of them again soon.

Ninver1039d ago

Yeah all of a sudden I've got that Uncharted itch.

Michiel19891039d ago

is multiplayer still up for the remastered trilogy? or did it never have UC2 mp?

Ninver1039d ago

@michiel1989

Not sure

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