Uncharted Vita close to 4GB; Sony emphasizes on the importance of physical media

GB : Sony has definitely learned their lessons after the PSP Go, there seems to be an unique confidence in the company now, and they seem to be taking the right decisions with their new handheld, Playstation Vita. It's a tricky situation for Sony with Monster Hunter going to the 3DS, and they now need a killer application for the Vita, so that it is successful in Japan.

[fluffydelusions]

I love seeing companies learn from their mistakes. Good job Sony.

[Fishy Fingers]

Yep. Although it was a mistake they should of never really made. Didnt take a genius to see the PSPgo was destined to fail.

[WhiteLightning]

It's called experimenting....they tried it, it failed, they admited it was a silly idea and they learnt from there mistakes.

In the end it only makes them more wiser.

With them learning from their mistakes and showing this with the PSV, I can't wait for the PS4.

[Fishy Fingers]

Yes they do, but pretty much general consensus at the time was the PSPgo was not going to be successful, and low and behold it wasnt.

Dont really see how it can be argued with. You cant celebrate them from learning from their mistakes, without first noting their failing.

Mistakes are called mistakes for a reason.

Edit: reply was meant for gumchewinasskikr

@ WhiteLightning, experiments are one thing, basically R&D would of shown it's short comings. You dont throw investment and money on such a scale at something you consider experimental.

Did he just question Sony? On N4G? Disagree!!!!!! lol

[dark-hollow]

"but pretty much general consensus at the time was the PSPgo was not going to be successful"

the same could be said about the ps 1 and now look what happend!

you wouldnt know if you didnt try.

[Fishy Fingers]

Completely different. The PS was new ground, a bold entry into a emerging market for Sony. The PSPgo was a dated piece of hardware, stripped of certain features, put in a fancy wrapper and sold at a price even a die-hard Sony fanboy wouldnt deem fitting. In a market they already had a large share in.

It was a poor move. Simple as that. It's ok to admit a Sony short coming without having to try and spin it into something beneficial.

[smashcrashbash]

Its called a business. You take risks and see how they turn out. Everyone who makes something doesn't automatically know its going to fail or else no one would ever fail at anything. They can make calculated guesses but no one can predict a product's failure or succees perfectly. By that logic Sony's PS1 against Sega and Nintendo should have been a miserable failure. But it wasn't. You have to try things and experiment or you will be stuck in place forever

[Army_of_Darkness]

We all know Sony was never gonna go fully on digital downloads to begin with. Especially with the Vita(Limited memory) and PS4(already has blu-ray established, so why stop now?!))!

[Fishy Fingers]

Think I've covered my opinions on said matter, but I'd do wonder, would you all be quite so forgiving (heaping of priase) on the manufacturer if this article concerned say, the Zune? Probably not.

[DaTruth]

It's a mistake I'm glad they made! I only had 2 UMD games and many PSOne classics at the time! That giant brick in my pocket made people ask if I was really glad to see them!

Seeing as how the digital PSP will still get support, I don't need anyone else to buy one, I just needed mine to be made So I could replace that huge brick!

[SoapShoes]

Uh the PSPGo was made due to fan feedback. -_- People were b**ching about the UMD and said they wanted to just get Digital Downloads instead. Then when the Go came out everyone started b**ching about lack of UMD. Everyone who complained about anything is an idiot.

[xtreampro]

FishyFingers there's no point in arguing with a bunch of brick walls, these people are too loyal to admit the mistakes Sony made (even though Sony themselves admitted it lol)

Sony's R&D and marketing team must have been smoking something really good to have invested all that money in a so called "experiment".

It should go down in history as the biggest experiment in all of mankind's life on earth lol.

[sikbeta]

What killed the GO was its price and no UMD compatibility, $250 for a PSP with a tinier screen and with no UMD drive, leaving all the huge line-up out there useless, they should have had all games for DD in the Store if they wanted the GO to succeed, now they have learned the lesson and we'll have the option to go retail or DD for Vita, in my case I'll go for both, Golden Abyss in a cartridge for me :D

[Tarantino_Life]

@FishyFingers oh please stop with the Zune stuff and stick to the point. Not the old N4G is run buy Sony fanboys alone and there is a conspiracy behind disagreeing with your opinion because they are sony fanboys. Maybe ppl just dont agree with your assesment.

[fullmetal297]

Experimenting at the expense of their consumer. They learned from this mistake and they most likely won't do it again, but I'm sure there are PSP GO Owners who are regretting their purchase and wants their money back.

[maniacmayhem]

@fishyfingers

Hmmmmm, i wonder if these same guys who forgave sony would also forgive the 3DS and the whole second analog debacle.

[colonel179]

The PSP GO failed because you can't offer an only-downloadable platform and NOT driver EVERY game as downloadable. Sony says the world isn't ready for it, but what it is is that they missed the big opportunity.

Letting developers choose to put their games on the PSN,and leaving PSP Go owners in the dark with the games not available on PSN, was their biggest mistake. The best example was Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

It's easy to disregard the fact that at the time before PSP Go was released there were a big demand of people for a UMD-less and smaller PSP. They simlpy attended this demand.

It doesn't took a rocket scientist to see PSP Go chances of selling well were slim with the pricing and library being major concerns, but what can you really do when the conditions are not ideal?

People forget that it's publishers, not Sony, that decide which, when and at what cost games will be available. If Sony were to try to force publishers in this they would of had stressed their relationship, as well as with retailers. Their only chance here was hope the hardware would of had sold better and this user base would get more attention from publishers.

The hardware itself should had been cheaper considering it lacks the UMD driver, I completely agree, but a "dated piece"? It wasn't ever supposed to be PSP2. And even the price is understandable, it was their first venture into DD only platform, no one knew how profitable (if at all) this would be, I belive stockholders would simply not allow PSP Go to happen if they didn't took certain investimen precautions. I'm sure that the PSP Go would be alot cheaper today if it was successful and was moving a lot of money over PS Store, but that never happened. So it were either launch it high priced with a plan to cut prices in the future or never release at all.

In the end of the day, it was a question of either attending the demand or quitting. They choosed to attend it as well as they could and I applaud them for that, for taking the risk, not because Sony can't make mistakes. We all complain when a company goes the metoo route, or when they ignore the costumers, but passing this barriers didn't ever come withour risks. As you said yourself, they already did have a big share of the market, why not attend costumers that still want more? Ignore the few attend the many? Next thing you'll say it were dumb of Sony to not go the casual route focusing in Move all the time.

I hardly see it as a mistake from Sony, just a not successful product aimed at a section of the market (which by the way is still there). They obviously researched the market before releasing, but sometimes a poll will only take you that far, they knew they couldn't meet all of costumers desires, but PSP wasn't going to be relevant forever. After all the years PSP have been out the demand for the smaller and UMD-less handheld was still around. The platform was at the top of it's economic healthy. Vita was in final development stages and would soon replace PSP as main platform. If there was ever a time to make a practical "experiment" over a theoretical one, that was it. Results of experiment: it failed. Move on to the next...

[gumchewinasskikr]

Fishy Fingers

Every companies makes mistakes. MS, Sony, Apple, HP, and the rest of them. It is how companies and people get better.

[Persistantthug]

Sony has officially abandoned the idea.

Good.

[Scary69]

I wish it was being released here in the states this year.

[Maddens Raiders]

me to give up my physical media and go download only. No way. btw -I plan on supporting this "cause" forever.=)

[SheenuTheLegend]

gr8 thats why u r called sony
u learn from ur mistakes n come better than never before
i m with you

[Objective]

Lol! That sounds like something to say to someone you are trying to woo... "I'm with you, you will learn from your mistakes, you are Sony...I love you!"

[Undeadwolfy]

Nice job Sony.

[cliffbo]

i do hope people realise that the PSP was brought out simply to test whether download only was a viable route? they never made a mistake, they just tested the water. having said that, i wonder how Apple manage to get by

[Szarky]

With Apple I don't mind spending a buck or two here and there, with Sony I wouldn't want to have spent $30,40 a pop and have no re-sale value.

[f789790]

Because what you are buying is completely different. If I buy a $60 game I want to own it physically! That way I can sell it if I get tired of it.

For cheap <$5 games whether on apple's app store or psn minis, I could care less about owning it physically. Just give it to me digitally and quickly.

[UltraVegito]

The PSP GO was a Epic fail....sony learned from that failure and thus born a Epic win called "Vita".
Great to see sony going the right path.

[Squatch83]

The problem with PSPGo, is that with PSN, the games tend to cost more than physical media.

Doesnt take a genius to figure out that ppl would buy a disc game instead of a digital game since it can be less than half the price.

[Ddouble]

In Japan PSP games are cheaper on PSN and even there the go didn't outsell the normal PSP.

Also not every game was on PSN. Games like Crisis Core and Birth by Sleep were not playable on the system.

When you have the best games on the system not been playable then of course it wouldn't sell.

[koehler83]

I wonder if you'll be able to download Vita games to PS3 and PC like PSP games. I'm not so much of a stickler for physical media for things under 10 GB. I'd rather carry around a single stick rather than multiple. I like to have a local copy backed up regardless.

[f789790]

All Vita games are downloadable. I'm confident they'll let us download the games to our pc's and ps3's.

That said, I'll stick to physical media. I have to keep that market healthy. I seriously doubt Sony will ever take the path Steam has taken with sales.

[koehler83]

Physical media in the portable sense doesn't make much sense to me. I agree entirely about physical media in the console space, where games are now dozens of GB in size and I too like my game shelf as much as anyone, but portability is tantamount in the portable space. So for me, fewer things to carry around is a positive.

[koehler83]

*paramount* (what happened to the edit button?)

[Bladesfist]

@koehler83 The edit button seems to be there when you dont need to edit, but when you do its not there.

[MasterCornholio]

Sony learnt a lot from the PSP and PS3. Also in due time the Vita will get its own Monster hunter.

[jujubee88]

Sony Bend stuffed a bunch of content in that little card.

Technically speaking, if it is near 4GB - but, not totally - there is a big chance there will be enough space to keep digital content on there.

There is a high probability that all retail SCE WWS titles will have the space to save DLC, game saves, patches, etc.

Imagine a MineCraft PS Vita game and all the stuff you can save on a card. :D

[f789790]

Interesting.......

I wonder if a hacked Vita would lead to us being able to use the spare space on the card for whatever. Even better, wipe the game on it to have the full 4GB! (you would do this with a bargain bin game)

Just another reason I'll hack mine. I'll stay a legit buyer but there are just too many things hacking it offers.

[KonaBro]

Let's keep the retarded modding talk out of a legitimate topic. You can take take that bull elsewhere.

[jujubee88]

Trying to hack them. It is not worth the time.

Also, I edited this comment cause it said something mildly blackmail-ish before.

[GoldenPheasant]

Minecraft on PSV w/ Multiplayer through Near....oh goodness....baaahhhhhhhhhh :p

edit:if someone greifed your shiz, just track em down. :D

[MRMagoo123]

For a moment guys close your eyes while thinking about the way sony learns from the mistakes they have made and then imagine what the ps4 is going to be like because of this fact i know it gets me excited about next gen.

[kcuthbertson]

Hey guys don't be so mean...

I like my PSPgo lol..

I do understand that I'm the minority. I like physical media..I just hated UMD's.

[Games4M - Rob]

Same here, i still enjoy my psp go.

[GoldenPheasant]

I keep seeing the Monster Hunter argument come up quite a bit. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but does the upcoming HD remaster of one of the Monster Hunter games coming to PS3 have transfarring on the PSV? I believe I read that it does.

[Hozi]

If PSPGO was a failure then why is the price still so high? I don't mind buying it but only if it was around $130.

The only feature I wish Vita had was AV Outputs.

I also wish these devices came with over 100GB HDD installed.

[Ult iMate]

The price is high because of 16GB of onboard RAM. That thing doesn't come for free.

And also HDD is not an option for handhelds, because of greater power consumption.

[kcuthbertson]

It's not RAM...It's storage..there is a major difference.

A Hard Drive is not RAM...

[Bladesfist]

digital is the way to go when its done right. Cheaper for customers. Cheaper to produce. Good for the environment. Cannot get scratched or die.

[Kos-Mos]

Digital media can die. When buying a game I really do want the cover. I buy the enviromental factor though.

[skyfire2261]

If you want the cover then download it and make it your wallpaper. :)

[Ocean]

Physical media will be around for a while yet...then hopefully Broadband speeds (or whatever the next big thing is called) will be fast enough for everyone..

It all really depends though on how fast tech moves on..will be interesting to see