Battlefield 3 'will look, play and sound better than the beta'

DICE general manager Karl Magnus Troedsson has moved to assure Battlefield 3 beta participants that the final version of the game will feature a host of improvements, shaped in part by fan feedback.

[Ezio2048]

sorry i did NOT know this before!!!

[Soplox]

Yeah is more for the people that are bitching about it and don't know what a BETA is. And also MW3 fans.

[Treyb3yond]

In all honesty, they would have to at least increase the quality of the visuals by 50%. I can't see that happening.

There is far, far more polished games coming to pander to the pleadings of large publishing companies.

If I'm not impressed by the final product, I'm not buying.

[WANNAGETHIGH]

I'm confused are u people crazy or just bias,Have in mind I'm a Cod fan. What do u expect from consoles that are 6-7 Years old?. Graphics that look like real life???.. If u want high quality graphics go spend some money on the latest PC upgraded with the latest Gaming Tech. I played the beta and for console standards it looks very good. Obviously Killzone2/3,Gears of wars,Uncharted..e.t.c will all look better but they are exclusives. U can't compare an exclusive game with a multiplat game. For a multiplat game this game graphics are up the with some of the best looking multiplat games this Gen on consoles and have in mind its a compressed beta. Obviously I don't expect the finally product to b a huge jump visually from the beta but I expect after polishing and putting it on a CD it will look reasonably better than the beta. I don't know what u expect from consoles that r going to b 10Years old in a couple of years. If this was an exclusive I would understand people complaint about the graphics but its not. I'm a console gamer but all u little bitches talking crap go buy ur self the latest PC so u can enjoy ur graphics but if u can't shut the hell up. I would like to c u people develop a game b4 u talk sh1t.

[PhantomT1412]

@Treyb3yond

Crysis 2 beta played like crap. The released game was so much better, at least on PC.

[CloseSecond]

@wannagethigh:

I can understand where console owners are coming from. Both consoles have titles that look vastly better than what is seen in the BF3 beta. This is also the twilight of both consoles when developers should know how to exploit every ounce of there respective strengths. Dice have also made statements about pushing the PS3 to its limits. Yet here we have a beta that would have looked good if it had been releases 2-3 years ago.

I was not expecting PC visuals but I was expecting better than what was shown in the beta.

[Corax]

I can't stop playing the beta with all it's flaws. So I know this is gonna be a first day buy for me if all those flaws are gone. Sorry but not to bash MW3 players but I know you came in here to disagree so before you disagree with everyone and move on to the next article really look at BF3 and look at MW3. Now tell me does MW3 look any better than the last few games? Let's be honest, I'm not saying BF3 looks better but is it about the looks of the game or the solid gameplay? You have a choice right now to decide to get a new gaming experience from your old. It's not that fast paced like MW3 but it still is enjoyable. Maybe your not the team player type and like to go solo and think MW3 is the only way you can do that. Well that's sorta true but working together never felt more rewarding. Think about the last COD game you played online. Was it memorable? Did you feel like you did something that wasn't a waste of time? I'm not saying get BF3 but really decide if you want the same thing over again when you pick up MW3. If you like being hustled and that's what you all are. Your being cheated into buying a game that didn't take no real work or effort to make. I mean the same team that made COD4 and MW2 isn't behind MW3 you know. But this is just something I want every COD player to do if you got this far. Look up some HD videos on COD4, MW2 then MW3 and compare and tell me what is different from the gameplay, graphics, and online. Don't just disagree this time give a reason.

[Philoctetes]

Obviously the final release will be better than the beta. But the beta also makes it pretty obvious that this game needed more development time instead of being rushed out for the holiday season.

[MysticStrummer]

Too bad they weren't clear about how old and buggy the beta build was going to be before they let us play it. Now they have morons who don't know what a beta is mouthing off online and giving the game bad reviews, as if you can review a full game by using the beta. Anyone who cancels their preorder because of a beta shouldn't be allowed to reproduce. I almost didn't download the beta at all because I knew it would most likely be a mess, but I was still going to buy the game regardless. A beta is not meant to be a commercial for the game.

[gamingdroid]

All you have to do is compare it to other beta's you played. Many whom have had more than 2 months to release is much more polished.

I don't remember a "beta" that is as bad as BF3 and it is more akin to an alpha. An alpha 6 weeks before going Gold is a bad bad sign.

I guess we will know in a couple of weeks.

[Ezio2048]

i know many of you would laugh at me....but after having compared Uncharted 2 and Battlefield 3 beta....it was not difficult for me and my brother to clearly figure out that Uncharted 2 was better(though BF3 was just a beta)...

Edit: i know BF3 looks awesome as a beta but yet improvement is seriously required if Dice wants to win the competition.:)

[gamingdroid]

In fact, the Uncharted 3 MP beta had far less issues months ahead and was relatively polished.

That BF3 build is only a month old? Dice got a lot of work cut out for them especially when you compare it to other beta's that happened far earlier than 1-2 month before release.

[MrSent]

IT'S A BETA. WALL OF BRICK WE TALK UPON THEE

[EazyC]

It had better be, the beta was disappointing in many respects.

[jamstorr86]

Visuals aside, what was dissapointing? Seriously?

I played the game, found it fun, notice one or two bugs which I would expect in a BETA, but overall I thought it was a great game.

Clear progression from previous editions.

Other games, such as fallout's release edition, have a lot more bugs than this BETA does, yet people still love playing it?

People have to remember that BF is always going to be different from your CODS and such, and so should be judged on the what it brings to the genre.

[Jafooli]

Aside from the bugs. I'm not happy with the gun play. Hard to tell if you hit someone as there is no reaction from the character model and very little impact/blood, and close quarter battles are very awkward.

Hope this improves drastically.

[Pixel_Pusher]

@Jamstorr86

This pretty much sums it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[BeardedPriest]

Aside from visuals what was dissapointing? Now we know you are defending the game because you are a fan and not because of its quality... I got stuck in the fucking floor by the M Com station so many times. I got killed by people hiding down there too...

[MrSent]

Perhaps it was because it was a Beta.

[Ezio2048]

i have no issues with BF3 beta...the game irrespective of anyone will be spectacular...
i am just more excited for MW3!!!

[Burning_Finger]

Battlefield beta is one big mess. I've encounter a lot of glitches and bugs during my play through.

The graphics is rather dissapointing. It's like playing COD again. I had to go back playing Killzone 3 again. Now that's intense.

[HK6]

You comparing Beta software that is over a month old to a full retail game (CoD) is a pretty nice compliment.

[Jobesy]

I think it's more contrast than compare buddy. A 1 month old build and you act as if it's a year old build. If the beta is only from a month ago you SHOULD be worried. How much do you expect to change in the retail release? It's going to be bug riddled, especially all the maps that didn't get tested.

[HK6]

"A 1 month old build and you act as if it's a year old build."

I was unaware that directly stating something is more than a month old is saying it is a year old. Also, you have obviously never worked with games before if you think nothing will change from a Beta build to a release build.

[Jobesy]

HK6, I never said nothing will change but isn't it apparent to you that this is a rushed game? My god, take the blinders off. Has it even gone gold yet?

[jamstorr86]

You should expect glitched and bugs in a BETA. That's what they are there for. If we are experiencing these issues, I'm pretty sure that DICE are aware of them too. I remember bugs and such in the bad company betas. they were fixed.

that is the advantage of this generation, patching can be done on the fly. And while we would like bugs and glitches to be none existent in the games we buy, it will just not happen. So much pressure to produce and realse games, to make money. Afterall, they are a business. Plus, games are getting more complicated than they were in previouls generations too.

[e-p-ayeaH]

haha DICE sounds pretty desperate.

[DA_SHREDDER]

the beta was crap, but I understand how advanced the tech is, but thats why they should just take their time and release a game that is finished. I wouldn't give this game such a close deadline considering there are 3 platforms they are working on. Oh I forget, they are also making a WiiU version, Ill just wait to see how good the online is for the WiiU cause I'm sick of playing broken pc ports on my current gen consoles. We need more RAM, and the beta proves it needs more time and tweaking.

[detroitmademe]

If you play multiplayer FPS & dont pick up BF3 then shame on u =)

[iNMyFiN4LH0uR]

Wouldn't say the beta is disappointing, bugs, glitches even the graphics are to be to some degree expected. However, I can see BF3 won't be competing with COD, especially when it comes to holding people's interests. MW3 is much more streamlined, much better paced, and has particular incentives that BF3 lacks-goes both ways, but one side outweighs the other.

[MysticStrummer]

Yeah it was their mistake to bring up CoD and talk about competing with it. BF and CoD are two very different games. Even though BF wins by a mile for me, I know CoD is gonna bring in more money because it's made with casual gamers in mind. Easy to pick and and do well vs a more tactical, team oriented game,,, easy will win every time.

[JellyJelly]

That's usually what final versions do in comparison to betas.

It's a shame that the ignorant masses on N4G and elsewhere don't have enough intellectual power to see more than what's at the tip of their noses.

DICE have already shown gameplay footage of what the final game will look like but many of you seem to have forgotten due to attendtion deficit disorders or something.

Look again: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

That is indicative of the final game, the beta isn't. October 25th and 28th can't come soon enough so we can get an end to this mass retardation.

[XboxInnovation]

This guy is full of crap.

[Kleptic]

I don't understand what everyone is whining about with the visuals, i think it looks more than acceptable, sounds unbelievable, and is a ton of fun...but whatever...

my complaints with the beta, in after 12 hours of the PS3 version is:

I can't believe they let it out with squads so broken...partying up before you launch matchmaking does nothing other than putting you and your friends in the same game...not same squad...a game so based on team work; i really wish that stuff worked in order to test it out better...

Metro is bar none the absolute worst map in any BF game of all time...it does nothing to show what battlefield is about as a franchise...Outdoor sections are littered with snipers, and hesitant attackers tired of trying to get the coms and randomly fall over dead (confirmed glitch with Mcom A at the beginning of the map)...its a map that encourages camping, somehow even on the attacking side...DICE had to work very hard to make a map that was this wrong in so many areas...

but thats it...overall the beta plays great for me ever since i reset my connection (nothing to do with the beta)...steady framerate, and i'm not noticing nearly as much tearing that seems so common in the videos...and ridiculously good lighting for a multiplat...muzzle flashes reflecting off subway cars is awesome...

If this is as bad as BF3 gets, and there is no way there is a map as bad as metro...it would take 3 more years of hard work to make something worse...then i'm fine...just want some vehicles, nobody snipes/camps as much when a couple of abrams are coming at them...

[Ashby_JC]

Im enjoying the OPEN BETA for what it is. A OPEN BEta!

Take out all the bugs and glitches....add in Vehicles. Different maps, uncompressed sound, FULL destruction (not locked like the beta-from what I have read)

And you have a awesome game that awaits us all in a few short weeks!!!

At the moment im bored with MEtro map...but I am sure I will NOT be bored with it in the FULL retail. From my understanding the FULL game has vehicles in the Metro map?

The less NON team players who are bashing the BETA. The better IMO.

I just recently started playing Black Ops again. And I will have to say it is a very smooth and fast game.

BUT....what kills it for me...is the ability to play the game without needing team play. FOr me....I have to have a game that you need a good team to accomplish task.

COnquest and Rush....I cant see a rambo doing much on those modes in BF or BFBC.

[Kleptic]

i've never seen confirmation that Rush will have vehicle sadly...but that doesn't rule it out...

past Rush modes in BF games did a good job of having different vehicles in different sections...so just because part of metro is underground, where obviously you have no vehicles, doesn't mean either outdoor section could have them...

off the top of my head, metro would be 1000x better if the attacking team at the beginning had some types of vehicles...not jets, or even helicopters, but maybe access to some light tanks, apc's, atv's etc...and some UAV's for spotting enemy locations...that would tremendously reduce the amount of camping going on, as its SO easy to hide in the massive first section...

then nobody has vehicles for the next two sections...as they are entirely indoors...

then let the defenders have access to some vehicles for the last section...it makes sense in a realism case too, as the attackers are attacking an occupied section of Paris, so they wouldn't have anything but infantry into the subway entrance...you just push through the park until they bomb out the subway, and then the marines are on their own...

that is exactly how BF usually is...the map easily has room on the outdoor sections, but whatever...

[Ashby_JC]

I like the way you think Kleptic...to bad more dont see what awaits us in a few weeks :)!!!

[towelie1288]

i agree i think the final game will be better
but i am stand reassured the gameplay from battlefield is the same as other battlefields even though its alot better and i will be picking it up but i dont like the pace and i think COD has a fast gun on gun action that i like
i will be picking up both for different FPS style types
cant wait !!

[venom06]

THIS BETA LOOKS BETTER THAN THE GARBAGE THAT MW3 WILL GIVE US.... PERIOD.... wayy too many CoD crybabies commenting on that beta something they were plannnig on buying anyway... they beta is awesome except for some fixable bugs...

[SixShotCop]

The BF3 beta doesn't even look better then MW2. Be honest dude. You're lying because you're mad. Plain and simple.

[Jafooli]

If i only had a console I would not be excited for this game. MW3 will be awesome on 360, this will be awesome on PC.

[Game0N]

DICE has been saving grace ever since they were approached about the lack of console footage earlier in the year, they have a lot of hurdles to go through and it will be interesting to see how the general and hardcore public will react to the finished product!

I actually pre-ordered BF3 because it offered a very different shooter experience than my Killzone and Resistance, it's nice to have a drastic change of pace every once in a while. It keeps the collection fresh ya dig?

[Optical_Matrix]

Can't wait. Having a blast with the beta. Got a good 14 hours out of it already and if the full retail experience has better graphics and audio, along with the campaign, all the other maps and more game modes...well....Battlefield 3 could be my new multiplayer addiction.

[Ashby_JC]

Im right there with ya. I dont have as many hours logged but Im enjoying the Metro BETA map for what it is.

BRING on the FULL RETAIL!!!

I can imagine the METRO map being even better in the FULL RETAIL also!

[mamotte]

Brilliant, Captain Obvious.

The beta is really funny, I dont mind it having 16bit graphics.

[RedDeadLB]

Let's just hope they don't actually ruin the performance with future patches like they did with BC2. Only after 11 patches did the game run reasonably okay for a console port (bear in mind I'm still a dual-core user so it may have been irrelevant to you quad-core users).

So far it works good even on my dual-core, but I'd be happy if it would run even better, since I'm 10-15 frames shy of hitting 60fps.

[gazgriff2k12]

no shit sherlock thats why its a beta

[Ashby_JC]

I agree.

But the statement is for all those who are complaining as if its a DEMO and not a BETA.

I know what a BETA is. But MOST...dont.

[gazgriff2k12]

i think they made a mistake releasing a public beta should of kept it closed. this beta could really hurt sales (and keep most noobs ofrom buying the game :-)

[Sarobi]

Judging stuff on a beta test is completely useless, especially when we're not even given details on whether or not its and old build or not.

[shooter747]

So, DICE thinks all gamers will just simply nod and be happy to what they've said. BS!. The beta is as close it gets to the final build, you won't be testing in real environment an older version of a software if you have another updated version because they are simply of separate build. The feedback will be based from the beta build, and not from the latest version. When you change the code, you change it in your current build because a change would need to undergo another whole round of certification and testing.

[Gamer-Z]

"Battlefield 3 'will look, play and sound better than the beta"

I hope so Dice the beta looks and runs like crap but its still a lot of fun! I honestly play it every day, i cant wait to try the full game :)

[SegataShanshiro]

I cant wait for this game to be released and still look like shit in consoles, then fanboys wont be able to say 'IT'Z UNLYY DA BETUH UF CORZE DA F1N1SHED GAEM WULL LOOK SO MUCH BETTER!!111!!11!!ONE---then they gonna say: WELL AT LEAST I DON'T PLAY COCK OF DUTY

[Xalaris]

I pity the intelligence of those so dull enough to be judging an unfinished title.
Are we to expect review scores based off of beta gameplay now, too?

[ps3rider]

Its a battlefield 3 n I don't think DICE are going to disappoint us specially its in development since almost 4 years. I loved the beta