PSN 'An Almost Complete Failure' and Team Meat Are 'Loud Crybabies,' says Developer

Sony has attacked Microsoft's treatment of developers, and while Team Meat (Super Meat Boy) might agree - noting that they got the short end of the stick from Microsoft - Zen Studios and other indies clearly have a different opinion. IndustryGamers has just heard from Guillaume Boucher-Vidal, Studio Manager at Nine Dots Studio Inc., which is currently working on a title called Brand. Boucher-Vidal doesn't think very highly of PSN or Team Meat.

[the_hitman3000]

this guy is the one that sounds like a crybaby lol sounds like hes just upset cause sony didn't want to put his game on the ps store

[ksense]

lmao awesome. a guy making a game exclusively for xbla is praising its service. who would have thought that!!! maybe he should realize that indie games usually tend to sell better on pc/steam and there are way less restrictions than psn or xbox for pc so why not make the game for that.

[doctorstrange]

Rather than the title suggests, so he's not saying the PSN is a failure.

I'm not exactly sure how he knows the sales are a failure as Sony doesnt share sales statistics - even between devs - about other devs games.

Perhaps he was part of a game that didnt sell, but I'm pretty sure the PSN wouldnt keep getting new games, especially exclusive ones, if the sales were a "failure".

[evrfighter]

nope it sounds like he's calling team meat a bunch of crybabies to me

[RememberThe357]

lol @evrfighter: Who is that a reply to?

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

This guy has balls, lol. I'm going to keep my eye out on his work.

Edit: MS streamlines their service add that to everyone who is interested in making games can do so on XBL by just paying the $100 membership. Couple this with UDK being free until you start making money, the price of admission to make games is amazingly low. I have a lot of respect for MS in that respect. Where else can your little sister or grandma could make a video game if they wanted, lol? I don't even think the indie music seen is as easy to get into as MS makes it for people wanting to get their feet wet in making games. But I need to be clear though, this is for XBLIG, XBLA is the one more strict and you would probably need a publisher to get you're game on the 360.

[SilentNegotiator]

Nine Dots Studio Inc. has made a grand total of zero titles.

They are nobodies. Yet they pretend to know inside information of PSN sales, and Team Meat crybabies as if they themselves had a long history with Xbox LIVE.

Seriously, screw these guys. They should deflate their chests, actually release a game, and then I'll pretend to care what these clearly unhumble grunts have to say.

[morganfell]

It doesn't matter if you are making a title for the 360, the PS3, the Wii, the PC, or a handheld. Retail or downloadable. 1st party or 3rd. Attacking those that might be perceived as the competition is a bad idea. Either say nothing or demonstrate some gracious behavior and humility. Stand on what you are rather than what you believe others not to be.

And it is a particularly bad idea to be a complete jerk when your own product his a pile of horse dump.

The fact that Dan Greenwalt has focused on Forza 4 rather than imitating the owrst parts of Bobby Kotick has caused me to actually read interviews with him and watch Forza 4 videos. The old saying that you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar happens to be true.

Being an ass will actually wind up doing more harm than good. And one day you just might need a job from the people you attacked.

[da_2pacalypse]

this guy is right. he makes perfect sense. PSN sucks, it's horrible. this is why the ps3 is losing in sales and competitiveness in the market.

[JellyJelly]

How many exclusive games has PSN had this year?
How many has XBLA had?

How come so many devs decide to put their games on XBLA but not on PSN? Could it be that they sell better on XBLA?

[MaximusPrime]

@da_2pacalypse:

Quit living in the past, ps3 is doing very well worldwide. In fact ps3 is still selling and havent been outsold by xbox 360 for the past 2 years.

Do a bit of research before you make that daft comment.

[playboi28]

As much as I hate to say it, PSN sales are low because of game sharing, not lower quality or anything like it. Instead of 5 people buying the same title on XBL, one person will buy one on PSN and share it with 4 friends while they split the cost.

[kikizoo]

Sales are huges, even with game sharing.

and jelly troll, psn had again more great games on psn this years...like in stores.

[da_2pacalypse]

@MaximusPrime Nope!

[MaxXAttaxX]

Do delusional people like you actually think that PSN has no exclusives? LOL

[xtreampro]

Why are you getting upset? What he's saying about the PSN is true it's just that not all the developers come out and say anything.

But of course in your world Sony is god and they can't commit any wrong.

[badjournalism]

[Citation Needed]

[Jensen]

sounds like your tryna call him out to be a fanboy sir....but is it he who is the fanboy here...?

[DragonKnight]

@badjournalism: your name, coupled with your comment, makes it epic. Seriously. +Bubs just because.

[MysticStrummer]

Sony's open policies haven't suddenly appeared due to bad sales on PSN. His theory about them trying to make up for bad sales is laughable for that reason. I'm sure he's happy to get his studio some press this way though.

[tarbis]

just how many games did this guy made for the PS3 or PSN to make these claims? He has no credibility whatsoever at all.

Take this with a mountain of salt.

[PATRIOT7ME]

@xtreampro

You know you've hit a nerve when you have 95+ disagrees.

He's right too, it's better to be an indie developer on XBL, from every standpoint.

[dead_eye]

@PATRIOT7ME either you hit a nerve or the comment is just total bullshit with no back up with facts and no inside knowledge. I suppose you'd look at it however helps you sleep better at night. oh and it's no good saying that dev's don't just come out and say it when the most obvious answer to that would be know one say how bad it is because no one thinks that.

[WANNAGETHIGH]

I hate to admit it as much as i love my PS3 PSN pisses me off sometimes. Countless patches, offline..e.t.c....I cant play a game now,if i get in i get so much lag or error code 80801717 or some numbers like that(could not b botherd to remember it as i just switched to my 360 till sony fixes it). I know its free and i thank sony for making it free but i would rather pay for a better service like xbox live which is better than have a free service which is worst.

[DragonKnight]

Sounds like the problem is on your end, because I've had no problems with PSN for quite awhile now.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Sure, Wanna. Sure.

[MysticStrummer]

I'm not sure if you need more meds, or a nice vacation in a detox/rehab facility. People like you amaze me, and not in a good way. Coming on here, telling blatant lies, and for what purpose? To try and convince some random person not to get a PS3? Funny and sad at the same time.

[dantesparda]

Hm, that's funny cuz PSN works fine for me. I feel bad for you (and you're paying for it)

[Ray186]

It the way you have your network setup causing the problems.

[trouble_bubble]

dude, your router/IP is %&* lol. Fix your NAT type, try a PPPoe code and not just quick scan, ditch the wifi. 360's wifi is cr@p for me too. It ain't PSN, it's something with your setup. There's something you're not telling us.

@Jazz4108
You're not the only multi-console ownere here ya know. Slow download speeds? Not in my house. You know what's an even bigger issue than mandatory installs? No games to mandatory install in the first place. Proud Silver member here, I ain't never payin' Gold for multiplats.

[slaton24]

if u lag in a call of duty game thats not psn...i lag in call of duty but not any of my others games...they dont use dedicated servers which cause crappy connections....and i have 82 total if u r not than i dont no what to tell u

[Peaceful_Jelly]

when you play Call of Duty the PSN and XBL are just a bridge (an interface) to Activision's servers and these are the same for both consoles. You know that right?

If your game lags then it's either 1 of 2 things, your connection sucks or the servers has issues. PSN and XBL has nothing to do with this and what you pay to MS for "better online" is a misunderstanding of yours. Basically you're just paying for a prettier interface, not "better online".

[RealtorMDandDC]

By your comments it's obvious that you have not had the chance to play a PS3?!?....(ProPaperPusher)

Had PS3 since Launch day.....the only issues I've ever had with PSN was when it was down due to the 4/20 Hacking.....

What you are saying is pure complete garbage...

--My PS3 is connect to a wired line....no issues with lag..currently using Fios...

--Had a Xbox 360---KMJFNIGUY----my DVD tray broke...tried to have it fixed and it broke again and then I threw it away about two years ago...in two years there has been no reason for me to re-purchase a Xbox 360....

--Your comments are very flamey.......

[Ser]

Your internet connection must be horrific if it's dropping that much! :O

If you can't wait 5 minutes for a patch you might want to reevaluate your priorities.

[TheGamingArt]

Exactly

[Jazz4108]

I own both consoles and ps3 is by far the most tedious with constant firmware updates and very slow downloads as you have tob downloadd and then install and then when I buy a game I have to screw with mandatory installs. You just don't have these issues with xbox live as I have been a gold member since its been offered. Ps3 is free for psn and I would never pay for that kind of service and I refuse to get used to it when its not an issue fr the xbox.

[cl1983]

@uhhuh

My three brothers, and I share one internet connection. Three of us have 360, and one has a PS3. We can have all three xboxes online gaming, and down loading updates with no issues, and the updates/down loads happen quickly. Yet when ever he tries to down load anything on his PS3 it has taken days to down load, even when no one else is using the connection. So I have to say that Jazz4108 issues are not his alone.

[tiffac008]

@cl1983

Where do you live my friend and what is your internet connection? Because I live in the Philippines, a 3rd world country with bad internet infrastructure and it takes me around 30 minutes to download an update from PSN with my 1MB (yes it sux) internet speed.

So unless you have a slower speed than mine or just happens a lot of you is using your internet at the same time (like download, stream and such) while the PS3 is updating then I think that will affect things.

Also there is a faster way to download the update. Do it on your computer and just use a USB and update your PS3 firmware that way. I find that to be more faster.
---

As for the topic at hand. How can this dev tell the PSN sales are a failure, where is the data to prove that?

If he's mad about the dev kit being expensive from Sony maybe that I can understand but saying something without evidence is just bad if you ask me :/

[tiffac008]

Update on my comment above.

Sorry I misread the part where cl1983 said "download anything on PSN" and I only ended up commenting about PSN updates.

But internet connection, size of the file and traffic affects the download speed. So I'm still curious on your internet speed because guys like me with 1MB speed its a given that it takes days for me to download stuff on any platform.

[DarkZane]

Downloading an update and installing it takes about 2 minutes for me. You people who claims it's slow need to get a better internet connection.

Also, last I check, to get a good performance, you need to install a 360 game to the hard drive and that takes a while too. Now, since DVD9 are lacking space and everything is mostly made on PS3 first and ported to 360 later, more and more games require multiple discs.

[BulletBtweenUrEyes]

So why doesn't Team Meat develop for Sony instead? I would love to see Super Meat Boy on PSN

[cyclonus007]

Sony turned down Super Meat Boy because they "didn't get it". So now that the game is successful, Team Meat refuses to put the game on PSN.

[gamingdroid]

LOL!

So out of the three console makers, one refused it (Sony), another released it (MS) and who knows what happened on the third one (Nintendo).

Then they went ahead and burned their bridges with the one that released their game... sounds like a very intelligent guy, that developer of meat boy.

[Lazy_Sunday]

But look at the BFBC2 community, or the KZ community, or even the R3 community, and you'll see that PSN is ripe with maturity.

[showtimefolks]

so what sony didn't want your game just move on and its good you like xblive

we don't need fanboy devs, we already have enough fanboys as is

[Abriael]

Paid shill is paid shill. He's not the first one (remember the pinball guy?).

It's quite obvious that someone is paying (or coercing) some small fishers to defend Xbox live.

[kikizoo]

Oh look, james brightman the troll ms whore/employee, working before for gamedaily (remember the reviews ? lol) and now for this ridiculous blog, continuing his stupid anti-sony propaganda...f..u.s liars.

[Dart89]

He's a former Acitivision employee??Hmm

Well this won't go down well in the comment's time to sit back and let them roll in.

So who wants to be first??Come on now don't be afraid.

[donniebaseball]

Ignoring his commentary for a minute, I just watched the trailer for Brand, and it looks like a pretty decent action-platformer: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[LNDCalling]

Different horses for different courses and all that but personally watching that doesn't make me sad its not coming to PSN!

[fucadastates]

dont worry.
Sideway and Rochard will save you all
http://blog.us.playstation....

http://blog.us.playstation....

[LNDCalling]

@fucadastates LOL I was expecting that to be sarcastic and anticipated replying "but I am sad they're coming to PSN".. maybe it was sarcastic, but knock me down I could actually get in to Sideway (I like things that are different) and Rochard I'd seen before and it doesn't look to bad!..

Thanks for pointing them out! :)

[PirateThom]

Nine Dots Studio Inc have never developed a game for PSN and Brand is going to XNA.

I'm not sure how they can complain about PSN, since they're not releasing on it, or chastise Team Meat over XBLA since they're not releasing on it, just the indie channel.

[Anon1974]

Whenever I hear developers talk about problems with other platforms, that's the first thing I wonder - have they ever developed a game for that platform?

This is odd. That's two articles from industrygamers in a row where it almost looks like they're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find someone to bash Sony. They just had another article recently where they admitted they had problems finding anyone to go on record to bash Sony in favor of Microsoft - but they found one! And look, now they've found another for another article.

Kinda seems like they're going out of their way to try to refute recent claims from Sony PR regarding better developer relationships. Now why would they do that?

[gamingdroid]

Only an idiot goes on record to talk smack about the competition, unless they are good with another one.

That is common sense... so you are unlikely to hear anything credible and if you do, I would question that source because that person is likely an idiot.

Gaming industry is generally small and it will come back to haunt you.

[DigitalRaptor]

Because they have an agenda of course.

Any journalistic publication in this industry that openly show their fanboy tendencies have absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

Industrygamers is one of these sites.

[SilentNegotiator]

"and Brand is going to XNA"

Oooooh! XNA! These guys are in the major leagues now!

lol

[RememberThe357]

Haha you Clay-Matthewsed this dude! You blew him up!

[donniebaseball]

The guy worked on both platforms while at Activision.

[PirateThom]

Working for a big publisher like Activision is nothing like working as an indie on EITHER platform.

[MrBeatdown]

And that means what? Looking at Wikipedia, Activision has released a grand total of TWO downloadable games, Vigilante 8 Arcade and Golf: Tee It Up, both of which were released back in 2008 and were exclusive to Xbox Live. And looking at his LinkedIn profile, he didn't even work on either of those.

Hell, according to his LinkedIn page, he worked in QA at Beenox and the only franchise he's ever worked on that even remotely relevant to what he's bitching about is Guitar Hero DLC and that series was already on the decline when he started working on it.

I'm curious where exactly he is getting his numbers that suggest PSN sales are "an almost complete failure." I'm guessing Sony isn't giving sales info that paints their service in a negative light to any no-name indie studio that wants it.

[mieko]

And here goes donniebaseball the industrygamers employee shamelessly promoting his website with fanboy fodder YET AGAIN!!

[DrFUD]

This article sounded like a RAH RAH speech for I'm trying to cater to XBL fanboys by saying these things (and have no idea for what I'm talking about regarding PSN) so I'll make a name for my studio this way.

Activison doesn't even make downloadable games so this guy using his past work experiences as a reference point is pathetic since it doesn't even apply.

Sounds like he had a phone call meeting with somebody at Microsoft and they told him this word for word. LOL

Maybe he can start another IGN type game site online when his game company goes under since he listens and repeats so well.

[Optical_Matrix]

Industry Gamers really won't let that statement from Sony go. Swear there's been 2 more articles on the same thing this week from them. Anyways this idiot they're interviewing just sounds like a ranting fanboy. Never seen anything like it.

[supremacy]

That's just his opinion, besides we both know the number of studios saying otherwise and in reverse is larger.

let's see here now..Valve has complained about live and ms's restrictions. http://www.gamezone.com/new...

Who else capcom has complained about m's tactics before http://www.xbox-360.co.za/f...

Id has been praising Sony for their http://www.justpushstart.co...

Braid developer the biggest of them all... http://news.softpedia.com/n...

here is another one, i am telling you i can go on and on until the fanboys had their fill http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbul...

boy don't you know... http://www.destructoid.com/...

Wait whats this? http://gamer.blorge.com/201...

lol i mean...c'mon now industry gaymers you know better than that.

[Karlnag3]

You have an N4G account and you've never seen anything so much as LIKE a ranting fanboy?! Please, sir... great master, teach me your ways.

[OllieBoy]

STFU and go make another pinball game.

[Vega75]

I guess more indie developers are starting to step forward and speak out only its not about MS. This is the second one in two days

[Silly gameAr]

And both from the same site. A little selective about their content right? I'm guessing Donnie is a writer, since he only comments on Industry Gamers articles. I guess Donnie is still that xbox fanboy that used to comment on N4G so long ago.

Man, Vega I couldn't care less. The guy felt like he had to vent, and he did that. Industry Gamers felt like they had to make a flamebait article, and they did that. It doesn't really matter in the end. PSN will still be here tomorrow and IG will move on to the next dev with an axe to grind. Rinse and repeat. Just another day at the office.

[Vega75]

honestly does it matter if it is from the same site that reported the other story? i think not. what does matter is that this indie developer is speaking from his experience with both service. I'm sure any dev can hit up that site or any other site and air out their gripes with either MS or sony. the problem here is that if a dev speak out about MS then they are evil and should be ran out of the gaming business. but if they say something about sony then they are no body of importance and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[alexi_666]

Some guy from a no name company talking shit. You're cool.

[Alos88]

Who is this guy? And why does his opinion matter?

[TopDudeMan]

He's nobody and his opinion doesn't matter. They've really stuck their nose where it doesn't belong.

[lorianguy]

So he quit Activision and now gets no attention.

"I know!", he thinks, "I'll just troll on Sony to get my 5 minutes of fame".

And so he did. He then went on to live under a bridge and ate goats for a living. The end.

[TheColbertinator]

I always add roasted peppers and glazed onions when I cook goat.

[lorianguy]

Good Idea. I fancy some of your home cooking now :P

Too bad I don't like goat..

[GoldenPheasant]

Another pants article by donniebaseball. Youre on a roll son.

[smashcrashbash]

Nine Dots Studio Inc? Who's that? Seriously I never heard of them before. Did they make a game for PSN? If not then how do they know PSN is An 'Almost Complete Failure' ?

[Apotheosize]

PSN has failed in sales? Is that true?

[fucadastates]

well, hallo games joe danger broke even on day one. and there alot of other games that did this.. so, ... no :)

[cyclonus007]

Didn't you hear the rule now that every game has to be an ultra, mega, record-breaking success or else it is an abysmal failure?

[Silly gameAr]

Just another day on N4G.

[Ethereal]

Who is this guy? Oh that's right no one cares.

[lumley666]

Indie developer? Who? What? Oh right no one cares, go back to building with lego u plank

[josephayal]

This is SAD sony

[wenaldy]

donniebaseball on the roll..

[tickticktick]

Defense Force is out. The news about the 360 was up on the front page for weeks. Lets see how things fair now that it's the other side.

There are more indi game options to choose from on Xbox Live than there is on PSN. If there was a real problem more developers would be stepping forward. One or two devs on each side just don't cut it.

[cyclonus007]

There ARE more indie games on XBox but that may have something to do with Microsoft's policy saying if a game isn't published by them first, they reserve the right to never put it on the platform.

That's where this controversy started.

[Gamer3000]

@tickticktick
wow man you are on roll
you troll in every ps3 article
your time here is running out and so is your bubbles
like your name said :
tick..tick..tick

[TheClown]

I lol'd when he said PSN has low standards & then goes on to say "There is no chance in hell that PlayStation would offer a platform that is as open as Xbox Live Indie Games."

I'm glad PSN isn't as open as XBLIG because if it was then PSN would be filled full of shovelware & screensavers like adjusting your screen, watching fake fireplaces, & massages with a controller. If you want an indie game to be put on PSN then at least make sure it has at least SOME quality.

[cstyle]

Xbox live is awesome. 99% of devs feel that way too. It only gonna get better in a few months with the new additions.

[smashcrashbash]

Strange I don't see any developer particularly knocking down Micsrosoft's door to put their games on Live. PSN gets many of the same games that Live has and their own exclusives. So I think your wrong to say 99% of developers feel that way or then we wouldn't have so many good exclusive PSN games.@ TheClown well said.

[PIayStation]

Gabe Newell would disagree

[fourthpersonview]

Guillaume Boucher-Vidal loves to take it from behind with MS?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[xX_Altair_Xx]

Lol.

[tehdewm]

Indie games don't really belong on consoles if you ask me. The home of indie games int he pc. Any good console indie games usually came from the success of the PC version. Console gamers are too worried about the next call of duty to care much about indie games.No I am not saying pc is a better platform, might as well say that before I get called a fanboy, but the pc is just a better environment for indie games.

[Ulf]

To sum up:

* Sony doesn't allow indie games on PSN (doesn't mention that this is because most indie games are worse garbage than you might find on the App Store for your phone)
* Sales for terrible games are terrible. Wow, what a revelation.
* $2500 (which is how much a PS3 devkit cost, last time I heard) is too much for an indie dev. Curiously, its not too much for a hot gaming PC, from which no profit will ever come? Apparently $2500 is just too much out of the Big Profits that you plan to make, as an indie dev.

Pretty enthralling. I almost couldn't read the whole article, because it was so... enthralling.

[Soldierone]

Funny he calls a studio a crybaby, then goes and whines and acts like a total clueless fanboy. Xbox paid you to develop a game and put it exclusive for them, we get it. When that contract expires and MS isn't humping your leg, we will gladly try your game on PSN.

And I love how they say the dev units cost too much. 2500....I could save up, sell a couple things in my house, and get one within a few months. Now If I had a decent job and wasn't in college, Id be able to get one in less than two months. How can a dev studio not afford that? Are you planning to make Iphone games and port them to consoles to clog up our online stores with crap? Good thing your not on PSN then, we don't want you.

[RealtorMDandDC]

Bubbles for you...

[narutogameking]

Wow this dev got some nice publicity for his litte indie game. Too bad it won't sell no matter what service its on.

[mieko]

The guys at industrygamers are pushing their sony smear campaign incessantly. It boggles to mind as to why idiots would go so far with negativity.

First it was a ps3 "horrible relations" article with an "anonymous" 3 years out of work developer who wished to go un-named for safety purposes (Total BS),

And now they interviewed a developer of some unknown studio who makes games exclusively for MS, and has NEVER worked on ps3 architecture, and with this clueless interview it gets used as basis to make an anti-ps3 article talking about its online network.

Its bad enough when the creators of these crappy articles then submit them on n4g.com and masquerade as different people, shamelessly promoting themselves. (donniebaseball, otherwhitemeat)

[Father Murder X]

"Microsoft's XBLA is very strict, and their technical requirements represent about 800 man hours from the programming team to adapt to. PSN doesn't have those kind of requirements, but at the same time, PSN is an almost complete failure in regards to sales, so they have to find a way to cater to developers somehow, and they do so by having very low standards," he commented."

really what else can be said after this comment. LOL

[BrianC6234]

This Industry Gamers site is pathetic. Are they trolls? Why write this stupid crap? Nobody cares.

[Xenomorph]

"I've quit Activision a few months ago and I am now working on a game that will be submitted on either XBLIG or XBLA"

All I needed to hear. Quit activision you say? The same publishers that are trying to fuck over Infinity Ward?

[SuperBeast811]

How would PSN be a failure?ITS FREE!!

[zero_cool]

lolz!

[joeorc]

quote direct from this interview:

"There is no chance in hell that PlayStation would offer a platform that is as open as Xbox Live Indie Games."

OK...explain this sparky!

"PlayStation Suite to bring Android games to Vita - Tokyo Game Show 2011"

first:

"Sony has announced that PlayStation Suite will allow Android games to be played on PlayStation Vita."

an here it is:

"PlayStation Suite will also support the C# programming language, opening PlayStation Vita and PlayStation Certified devices to a wide range of developers. Microsoft's XNA framework, for example, is based on C#."

http://www.digitalspy.com/g...

Android is what's that word..hmmm Oh yea freaking Open source jack @ss...

[DiRtY]

Confirmed: N4G knows better than developers. When are your games being released and on which platforms?

[PirateThom]

Well, this particular developer is no better than anyone on N4G. Anyone can publish on XNA.

In fact, yes, I'm publishing a future project on XNA.

This is why it's ridiculous, this developer isn't developing for either PSN or XBLA, so they have as much relevence as N4G.

[Bleach]

It's sad to see developers trash services which might have supported their futures titles if they had acted a bit more grown up.

[Treyb3yond]

Hmm....alienating 50% of the retail space potential is not a good idea. This man needs a lesson in basic business sense.

[0321]

@tickticktick Sooo just because one indie games developer doesn't like PSN means the tables have turned? Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis? Where is my Anti-Fanboy repellent?

[Snowii]

fanboys are so pathetic and desperate :(

on both sides

[Karum]

Not sure I can agree with his comment about sales on PSN being a failure.

The games on offer on PSN just keep getting better and better as time has gone on, not really a hallmark of a platform that performs poorly in terms of sales now is it?

Maybe this guy has had poor sales figures with his own game though and thinks that is how games in general on PSN perform?

Either way, game quality and the volume of games on PSN is increasing over time, with this stone cold fact I cannot accept nor agree with the sentiment that PSN is almost a total failure at all. This man's comments seem to be emotionally driven rather than logically.

[NeloAnjelo]

He said, She said... just give me good quality games and keep the squabbling to yourselves.

[strifeblade]

another reason why not to develop for psn.

[MachineGunTalk]

stupid moron

[KingOfArcadia]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks the Team Meat guys are crybabies.

[hot111]

Yeah,Team Meat look like a bunch of crybabies,things are never black and white.

Hudging by the facts(amount of XBLA exclusives/sales) Xbox Live is running circles around PSN.

and Sony is well aware of that...

[Scuzzlebutt]

No name dev at no name company sticks up for his pimp MS and says PSN is a failure? So the ability to sell hundreds of millions in DLC and game sales is a failure and so is free online play for customers? WTF?

[Condemnedman]

looks at list of stuff downloaded from xbox and psn I've downloaded 3 full things from psn 2 which were from the freebie for psn going down and the other, which I paid for was play tv . Now im not saying the games are worse on psn because they are not there are acouple of tasty looking one's like trine and everyday shooter?? but why do i spend my hard earned cash on live instead of psn ? why do i pay to play on live rather than play for free on psn ? Because for me the experience is better on live and thats the truth .

Looking forward to UC3 tho

[Drano]

I lol'd.

[CYBERHATER]

Well this won't go over well with the ps3 fan base.