Sony Misfortune & Mishap

Nearly a year after the PlayStation 3 launch, one must consider what exactly Sony has to show for its efforts. Once touted as the "Mercedes" of all gaming consoles and publicized globally by Sony's Marketing and Public Relations minions as a replacement for the modern day computer as we know it, the consumer has yet to see such rhetoric manifest into actual reality. Sony may be the "Mercedes" of the console industry but to date, they have demonstrated indubitably that the clutch has slipped and the Benz cannot shift out of second. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the 360 has taken flight.

[gamesblow]

Are you bored yet? That's what the topic header should read like. Nothing but trite drivel from a pro xbox 360 site. Sony has a lot to show for it's year of misteps, actually.

6 million in sales, in a year dominated by a 250 dollar selling powerhouse and an over price RROD piece of junk. They did this without the help of literally no 3rd party support, mind you. Not 1 3rd party came to Sony's aid for an exclusive. Remember that, folks.

Sony sold 6 million units on their own. Pretty damn impressive, if you ask me. The future will be better as Sony. Maybe not as good as it once was, but the future will be more quality as long as we have 3 consoles all viable. It's never happened before. Ever! 1 console always dominated in the past... making it the lead platform for other developers to ignore the one that wasn't selling.

Now, the tide has shifted and I'm glad "for 1" the xbox 360 is doing so well, as I am for the wii. This will ensure Sony takes drastic measures to better themselves for us, the consumer. Who wins? Every non biased gamer. Who loses? Every SLOP DONG who doesn't see both sides of the coin.

The bias media needs to stop. Sony's came along way since Giant Enemy crabs and 600 dollar price points.

[StrboyM]

well said chap.

bubblys for joo

[cloud360-7th_account]

I wanted tyo giv you a bubble ibut i think i took one away last time or gave you one already.

[sagapo]

bubbles for you!

[lawman1108]

I have yet to ever see you post and have one bad thing to say about Sony when there is PLENTY, so much so that it is just not even fun at this point.

[hardcorehippiez]

sometimes you come across as a totally biased fanboy but i agree with your statement here bubble for you

[ASSASSYN 36o]

"theres attempted to justify Sony which is nothing short of preposterous and pathetic."

[xsteinbachx]

bubble

[Nagthragarthoth]

If uncharted and Ratchet are 2nd gear, we the ps3 base are in for a real treat.

[DJ]

for that post.

[AngryTypingGuy]

"Now, the tide has shifted and I'm glad "for 1" the xbox 360 is doing so well, as I am for the wii. This will ensure Sony takes drastic measures to better themselves for us, the consumer. Who wins? Every non biased gamer. Who loses? Every SLOP DONG who doesn't see both sides of the coin."

-- Very true indeed. When competition is fierce among companies, and they have to work harder to make their product more appealing to the customer, everyone wins. This applies to any industry whether it's pro wrestling, satellite radio, prime time TV...or video games.

[Kururo]

like i really need a car analogy of the video game consoles by planetxbox360.com

[Jeppe]

That would be a really bad idea for MS. US cars against cars from Japan analogy. We know how that comparison would end in terms of quality, handling, fuel consumption, advanced technology etc. US cars would be beaten hands down in every single aspect.

[PopEmUp]

If Microsoft would be competing with Toyota in cars I wonder how would that turn out since Microsoft think they got the money to compete with any company in the world and be a clear winner even what they're doing in gaming business now

[Jeppe]

Yeah my imagination is spinning..

I'll guess MS just would buy a decent car brand and rename it to something like MS Bighorn or MS Wheels.

Think it could have some interesting features though:

While entering the car you would hear: "Where do you want to go today?"

While turning: "It seems like you're trying to do a u-turn. Would you like to start the u-turn assistant?"

While stomping on the breaks: "Are you sure you want to stop? Say Yes, No or Cancel."

Running out of fuel: "Your system is running low on resources, please stop and adjust your seatbelt."

If you accidently stopped your engine you'll get the option to start the car in failsafe mode the next time.

I would probably end up in an institution after driving it for a few days.

[DethWish]

Let's just hope they don't come with a Blue screen or Red ring of death

[mesh1]

the speak thge truth u cant deny any thong they saiod as it was proven to be fact and guys belive me sony fans will cry 2008 trust me hahah but hey i will buy the ps3 in 2010 prolly

[PMR_21]

a ps3..you'll only tarnish the quality of psn with your presence

[vaan]

Your spelling is of an xbot level of intelligence.

[Wolfmoonstrike]

there is a spell check button take 10 seconds out of your time to press it please.

[Beren]

Ignore button and there is no more mesh :D
And lol at the article bashing Sony comming from Microsoft. Please don't post this nonsense as news lol

[ReBurn]

This wasn't posted as news. It was posted as an article. That's why it says "Article" as the type.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

GOD wtf did you say? I couldn't understand a single thing there.

[Bathyj]

This is pathetic. Maybe 6 months ago this article might have swayed some. Now it should just fuk off and die.

[Skerj]

Gee, a biased article towards PS3 from a 360 site? Whatever will the intarweb think of next.

[Skerj]

Let another pointless flamewar begin!!

Edit:

Since the site double posted for me, I hereby hijack this article to discuss the awesomeness of tacos. Everyone loves tacos!! If you don't then you're lying because you do.

[Idmpc]

... I never ate tacos o.O
But I'm sure I'll like it

[Skerj]

Oh you will, try them and taste the awesome.

[PlayStation360]

Yo that was awesome.. Bubble+ for both of ya'll. Heck... for the remainder of this post, anyone who says anything Pro Tacos gets a bubble+ from me. :)

P.S. Tacos kick Ass

[vaan]

What a waste of my life to click on this xbot FUD lying BS.

[aba]

and you'd gladly eat up sh*t from SPG and others about how blu-ray is the second coming.

[onyxbox]

the signal to noise ration on N4G is getting worrying... every article I read seems to be someone dissing Sony and PS3. What about finding positive news about 360 and convince people that way rather than wasting all the effort finding what's wrong with the other machine.

I'm fortunate to have all 3 systems, they all have their strengths and trust me between 360 and PS3... there's nothing in it... I wouldn't rate either as being 'better' than the other... just pick the one that has the games you want.

[Beren]

Wise words friend :D

[The_Engineer]

In a perfect world the 360 would compete on it's merits, in an MS world the 360 competes by paying for timed exclusives, buying a formerly exclusive title into multiplatform release, buying extra content for it's version of a game, paying sites for biased reviews(to the point that some of these sites are starting to realize they are sacrificing credibility for a quick payday), on and on.

I actually like the 360, it's a decent console that serves it's purpose(for me it is a good second console), only the retards on here bent on world domination try to play it up as a playstation killer. 360 hasn't even sold half of it's predecessor's install base in half the time the xbox1 was out on the market. Rather than proclaiming victory in the 1st inning how about having a strategy to last 9?? Right now the PS3 is looking like the team that started out slow and finished in championship form. It's got the right talent, strategy, youth,weapons to win out in the long run. I have been on the winning side of long drawn out internet wars of opinion only to win out in the end(an example would be when I would frequent boxing forums back when I used to box myself, back then the Roy Jones fanboys were even worse than the 360 fanboys, It's quite funny that they pretty much spewed the same crap "no one can touch him" "he's too quick" "hit's too hard" blah blah blah I would counter with "look at boxing fundamentals not athleticism,the first fighter that can establish a strong jab will KO this guy", lo and behold that's exactly what Tarver did.ANYWAYYYYY I am even more sure convinced that the PS3 will win this in the long run because it has BETTER FUNDAMENTALS,

a TRUE next gen processor (not 3 power pc cores slapped together)

a TRUE next gen storage format (let's not even go there with MS sticking with the soon to be dead DVD9 format)

a TRUE next gen RENDERING ARCHITECTURE (this was Sony's version of a faint(in boxing this motioning like you are going to punch with either hand in order to get the fighter to dodge you in the opposite direction when you are really going to hit him with the hand he is turning into),when Sony announced the specs for the PS3 they basically just let MS see a bill of goods(this is why Bill Gates said "the PS3 will never surpass the 360 graphically, his people actually looked at the number of transistors on the RSX,memory,speed of memory, etc.) and could unequivocally say that it would NEVER overpower the xenos. Technically they were correct, where Sony landed the sucker punch is when games like Ratchet and Clank, THE MASTERPIECE that is UNCHARTED,KZ2,MGS4...etc started showing how the Cell broadband engine TURBO CHARGES the RSX by performing graphical processing at the same speed and at times even faster than any graphics card is capable of. The look on the face of MS engineers when they realized the nature of Sony's secret weapon this generation must have been PRICELESS!!!

All in all MS actually did a decent job with this version of the xbox(minus the highly embarrassing failures that still continue to plague the console), it is a DECENT effort for a next gen console. The only problem is Sony took a running start and did a SUPER DUPER POWER UP BRUCE LEE COMBO on it's competitors with the PS3.

The Playstation juggernaut has always taken time to get going, but once it does, WATCH OUT because anything in it' path will be OBLITERATED.

[mazirjones]

you forgot to mention that all 360 games are either already on the pc, or coming to the pc, but will always play better on the pc. you won't see that with ps3

[CrashSharc]

That is single handedly the best pro-PS3 post I've ever read! Kutos! thanks for reaffirming my PS3 support and why I do it!

[Wolfmoonstrike]

so uhh the ps3 is stuck in second gear, wow the Xbox must be embarrassed because the ps3 sold as much as the X360 did in its first year, and that's with competition and high price point. so in other words if the ps3 can do that in 2nd gear wait till it really get's going.

[ReBurn]

Except when you compare the installed base of PS3 to the installed base of the 360 with respect to the installed base of the last generation. As a ratio based on the sales totals of the last generation the 360 reached 25% of the original Xbox installed base in the first year and 50% of it by the end of the second year. The PS3 has attained a conversion rate of only about 4% in the first year.

The PS2 is still stealing sales from the PS3. Removing BC from the PS3 wasn't to save money. It was to make people stop buying PS2 software so they can get the conversion rate and attach rate up. I own a PS3, so you could hardly call me biased. In the big picture the PS3 is not doing as well as expected.

[KingJames1906]

PS3 users do not buy the games in mass, look at NPD for proof.

[lawman1108]

And you can't break 6 million with games that don't sell. PERIOD PS3 BLOOD BATH this Christmas when out sold 3 to 1 by the 360 and don't even bring up software (40 to 1) That is so sad it should be against the law. For all of the talk you Sony boys do you sure are NOT buying games. I have a 60 gb and I only buy on ebay.

[Nagthragarthoth]

Let's see.. the ratio of available br-movies to games is like 4 to 1, the fact that they cost about a third of a game is a factor... So yes, it is only logical that the NPD numbers would read like they do...

Wow, logic... it all just came together there for you didn't it?

[Wolfmoonstrike]

sounds like when kotaku said 360 selling out in Japan was better then the ps3 not selling out, though there were more ps3's than 360's to sell out of. In other words 5% of 120m is about 25% of 20mil so you saying the conversion rate is low is funny because you need to do the math first, before makeing an @ss out of yourself.

[Genuine]

I understand what the guy is trying to say, but this article just seems like a fanboy rant. Quoting Sun Zsu from The Art of War in reference to gaming just seems in bad taste. And telling 360 fans to keep fighting?? I'm a 360 fan, but I could careless about sony fanboys. I think the 360 speaks for itself rather well. Articles like this shouldn't be approved, whether it's a 360 fanboy or a ps3 fanboy, it's still just a fanboy rant and not news.

[Noodlecup]

The PS3 has had a better year than the 360's first year easily, why? because of multiplatform games that the 360 got in it's second year and Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Folklore and Ratchet and Clank.

Compare that to gears of war and dead rising, with an extremely low failure rate accompanied by free online with dedicated servers and you're laughing :)

[carl ps3]

2 good games for xBox360 so far - Gears Of War & Halo 3.
Er dats it!!!!!!!! Can't see any other good games for it???
Sounds like xBox fans are getting worried!!! ;-D GROW UP!!!
Yeah PS3 has had a few problems so what! I got one & i'm happy!
IF U WANT A XBOX360 BUY 1!
IF U WANT A PS3 BUY 1!
IF U WANT A Wii BUY 1!
&ENJOY IT, EASY INIT!!!!!!!!!;-D
Why do people hate PS3 so much???
It's only a games machine(+loads more)
Why do they want Bill Gate$ to rule the world for!!! ;-D
From now on i'm not reading this crap. I'm just going to enjoy my gameplaying. C-ya!!!!!!!!!! ;-D

[marcellizot]

Have any of you actually read the article? The author has actually quite alot of positive things to say about the PS3 and finishes by saying that only a fool would consider the PS3 out of the race.

The comments here are the typical reactionary fare that typifies this site. Seriously, in future try actually reading the article before letting your dog brained claptrap gush unchecked into the world.

[Jeppe]

Thats correct, he also says:

"The PlayStation 3 is an impressive piece of equipment. It should go without saying it is technologically superior to our beloved 360 and you would be fooling yourself to think otherwise."

[Idmpc]

You might consider the site is saying "positive things" about PS3, but with sentences like these: "Well Dave, you don’t have any games and people are not buying your system." and "Sony has failed miserably in providing their consumer base with killer aps and great games.", well, all I can say is that it is a full load of BS.
No great games released? That's just a stupid statement. It has great exclusives, as well as great multiplatform games.

[2 cents]

MS did nothing regarding RRoD, they just extended a lousy warranty. How about stop making such crap product. My 2nd 360 broke down 1 month ago, bought a new one from tesco but had to take it back cos it was scratching the disks. Thought about a refund to put towards a ps3 but unfortunately tesco had to replace it instead. I`m on my forth now in one year and a half since i bought my first 360.
MS had all the time to rectify the problem but they did`t want to, cos thats the only way they could outsell the ps3, by selling consoles over and over again to the same person.
Anyway can`t wait to put my hands on a ps3

[robep3]

Lol 2nd 360 I watched x-league tv on sat a few weeks ago here in the UK very pro 360 jurno's on it anyway some guy was on HIS 11th 360 second name must have been Gates who else would stick with it that long LOL.
The other thing go on about is attachment rate well from MS's own
figs 13.6m consoles 6.3 games average over 2yrs its been out. Now figs from Sony 5.6m consoles 28m games quick maths 5 games per console average per console IN ONE YEAR extend to 2yrs 10 per console LOL.
I have had mine 6 months 5 game 6 Blu-ray and others have bought way more than me.

Recent sales in France,Japan & Korea show that the PS3 will only
get stronger FFS my brother & 2 brothers in law have just bought 60gb PS3 after seening mine working. (MY BROTHER WAS A 360 OWNER NOT NOW)

Rob

[FirstknighT]

Well it's been a full year and the ps3 has sold 5.5 million. But it had to reach that level by reducing the price a few times. Sure their are fanboys that are buying it but I'm sure there are alot of people buying it just for the cheap bluray player. Case in point...Today at Best Buy some young couple was purchasing a $500 Sony BluRay Player. The salesman told them why don't you buy a ps3 and save $100. Well the young couple agreed and purchased the ps3. Other than the fanboys, I'm sure the majority of ps3 owners are because of the bluray. The game software and bluray movie sales prove this. Ps3 games don't sell and Bluray movies do. If you try to compare the 360's first year with the ps3's first year in game ratings and software sales, you will see that the 360 destroys the ps3.

[robep3]

LOL the 360bots say we buy it as a Blu-ray player the HDbots say we buy the PS3 to play games you know what they are both right LOL.
We buy GAMES & MOVIES lots of them both.

MS figs 13.6m consoles 6.3 avg games but out 2 yrs
Sony 5.6m consoles 28m games sold avg is 5 games IN ONE YEAR(10 IN 2YRS!)
plus over 60m PSN downloads.

Rob

[FirstknighT]

Once again childish and hostile attacks from the Sony boys. Damn so much anger. I only spoke the truth. Deny that software sales for the ps3 sucked in 2007!

And Bathyj just a word of advice...be careful when your swimming in the ocean...you might get stung by a sting ray in the heart. CRIKEY!

[Bathyj]

Was that supposed to upset me? A Steve Irwin Joke. I hate Steve Irwin. And dont worry, I'm not angry. I just honestly wouldn't care if you died. Sue me.

[Genuine]

Wow, your a d*ckhead. How does a douche like you get so many bubbles? Wishing cancer and death on someone you think you know, but don't, isn't cool or funny. Maybe you, and the people who agreed with you deserve to have rectal cancer, so you'll have to get rid the a*shole part of yourselves.

[Idmpc]

You really shouldn't try to kill fanboys o.O . Having fanboys for both X360 and PS3 is a good thing, it keeps the companies fighting for market share and, consequently, bringing all of us consumers good things. So, just to clear things up, FirstknighT is not going to die of cancer, and Bathyj is not going to get stung in his heart by a sting ray, ok?

Lol I got a disagree by saying people shouldn't kill each other! So there are some maniacs here on N4g

[hardcorehippiez]

afterall it is a top spec blueray player that is cheaper surfs the net and plays games into the bargain . plus is very reliable ! winner in my opinion

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

@ First Knight

You have to take into consideration that the 360 had the market pace to itself for one whole year without competition. When the ps3 came out it was facing off with the 360 and wii at the same time. If you think about it even dividing the 360s 2nd year sales and such would still be unfair in the end because there were always a lot of sales which went to 360 and wii rather then the ps3.

[Bathyj]

I'm sorry you're so upset by what I said, but the fact remains, I said it and dont take it back. I know lots of people who had more right to life than this scumbag and are no longer with us so while I wouldn't run him down with a bus, I probably wouldn't push him out of the way of one either.

Its a simple case of action/reaction, Newtons 3rd law I believe. If he comes here all the time, being a jerk, not contributing, acting like a prick (and I say he's not acting) then he should expect people to hate his guts. You can slap a dog in the face and act surprised if he bites you.

Bottomline, if you dont want to be treated like sh*t, dont act like an arsehole, even on the internet. I'm sick of people using the net as some sort of license to be fuktards. And if hes actually like that in real life and not just here, then thats even worse and I feel sorry for his family too.

You mentioned my bubbles. The reason I have them is because I'm genuine and people that read me know that. I dont act the clown for the masses. I dont hide behind the anonymity. What you see is what you get. The answer I give you here is the answer I would give you to your face. I'm not special. Lots of Aussies are like that. The good ones anyway. We're taught to be honest and upfront and I'd rather be stabbed by a mate in the front than in the back.

Anyway, I am sorry if I upset anyone affected by cancer. Maybe I should just wish Hepatitis C on Knight and his dodgy crew, not so touchy a subject.

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

You wouldn't push him out of the way? Why? Because he prefers one console over the other? Do videogames influence you guys that much? Maybe if you saved him, he would realize that not all PS3 fans are @ssholes and he might buy one lol. Jk. Wishing cancer upon someone is just downright sinister. You should take that back before karma bites you hard.

[Bathyj]

Well there you go, I lost a bubble so I guess there are plenty of people who like phonies too.

HeavyweightInTheGame
I could save Knights life by throwing my PS3 at the bus thus making him veer and miss Knight and he still wouldn't appreciate them, or me. He's anti-Sony and he's a hater. He's a hypocrite too because he calls himself a gamer yet, hates a console. He should be thanking Sony, because the industry wouldn't be where it is today without them and M$ might not even be in it if they hadn't followed Sonys lead. When Sony joined, the thought of a new player challenging Nintendo and Sega was unthinkable. After PSOne they showed, not only could it be done, but the business had grown bigger than Hollywood, the holy grail of entertainment.

That aside. Knight and others like them will never change. They cant even give you acceptable reasons why they hate so much in the first place.

But I can see that the cancer thing has ruffled some feather so I TAKE IT BACK. Is that clear? I retract the C Word statement. Lets just say I wish him severe gravel rash and leave it at that.

PS, I bet Bindy Irwin wouldn't be so forgiving.

[FirstknighT]

The bottom line is that I'm talking about video games and your talking about death. You have issues man. But I'm not surprised. This isn't the first time you attacked me with your childish remarks. I'm used to the immaturity of the sony boys in here.

Looks like you need a hug man.

*edit*

Thank you for proving my point engineer. I needed another example of pure immaturity.

[The_Engineer]

bathyj is trying to make, YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES, you only talk about how much you hate the PS3. FVK OFF,it's getting tired already.

[ajeben809]

yeh he does say some positive stuff bout ps3 but the negatives by far outweigh the positive. but even the positives he mentioned seemed forced to me, just to make himself not sound like a 360 fanboy.

[KINGDRAMA]

right
1 exclusive in a no competition market versus 5 exclusives in a market versus 2 competitors.
BILL GATES: "we dont need hdmi/ we dont need no next gen format/we dont need quality control/ the 360 does not suffer from hw issues....lol"home" wtf is home? thats garbage!!!"

Needless to say all of these features bashed on by every dumass xbot and f@gking gaytes himself is NMOW either IN the 360 or being implemented.HA HA

SONY=innovator MS=imitator

1 year head start and 360 really didnt make an impact as far as sales go, I MEAN THERE ARE STILL 90 MILLION UNACCOUNTED FOR GAMERS OUT THERE. TO THROW even MORE FECES AT YOU, the wii surpassed the almighty xbox 360, and the hddvd format is getting owned by bluray. Not to mention the hardware overheatin and disc eating sh1tbox is still yet to be fully fixed.

SO YEAH THE PS3 is dying....in all of the bots dreams.

[HarryEtTubMan]

Just to put things in perspecive... there isnt only 90 million consoles left to be sold.. try about 150 million + this generation

[Douchebaggery]

After reading this I feel like I should just throw my PS3 out the window and get a 2nd x360.

It's like going to Toyota's website to read an article about Honda.

[Jamaicangmr]

Maybe you should've linked the article through another site because come on now. "Planetxbox" Need i say more really? Some of you guys really make me wonder if you actually enjoy your Xbox360 because you waist time makin such desparate attempts postin negative PS3 articles, it's pittyful really. This just shows how hard it is for you guys to find good anti-PS3 new now a days. Would you expect to go to an extremist website an read anything positive on America? Well same logic applies here. lol!

[gnothe1]

basically all this site is saying is that because of all that trash sony talked about how great an powerful the PS3 is, it should have been where the Wii is in console sales!! you guys wont admit that the PS3 is not living up to its promises. an 1 last thing, you guys say the 360 only sold 6 million in its first year, do you guys forget MS statement that they'll have 10 million consoles sold before the PS3 launched!! they didnt reach the 10 million but it was a low 9 million. then they lowered there forcast sales for the next few months beginning of the next year. an I know they sold more than 6 million because you sony crowd keep bringing up the fact that MS didnt hit there 10 million like they forecasted!!

[Jeppe]

Already posted this link in a comment a few days a go. But it's fun to see how similar they are. This is back in 2000 when the PS2 was young.

http://archive.salon.com/te...

Skerj suggested to replace "PS2" with "PS3" and "Dreamcast" with "360".
You could also replace "DVD" with "Blu-ray".

[Guitarded]

The only ones buying the thing are Sony fanboys and AV enthusiasts. Real gamers are going with 360. Yes RROD happened to me and I dont care cause MS fixed it for free in 2 weeks. While I waited I borrowed my friends PS3, since he never played it, R:FoM, Motorstorm, HS, and Lair. OK games had fun for a weekend then picked up my guitar and wrote 2 new songs. Its still more expensive and has waaay fewer decent titles to play. there is just no good reason to buy a PS3 yet. Unless your a fanboy or AV enthusiast. Even at $399 gimped.

[Death]

In order for Sony to survive and grow as a company, they need to diversify. In 1994, Sony made nothing in the console market. All their income came from home electronics like tv's and stereos along with mobile electronics like car stereos, speakers, and at one point Walkmans. They unfortunately lost to Apples Ipod and never recovered letting Walkman fade away.

In 1995 Sony released the Playstation brand globally. No one in Sony thought it would make it against Nintendo and Sega. Their was a lot of friction within Sony just prior and after the release of the Platstation. We all seen the outcome of the Playstation release and rise to the top of the console market. Sony took gaming much further than anyone before them and even today.

The downside of this was Sony's heavy dependance on the Playstation to carry their quarterly profits. A very large part of Sony's income hinges on the Playstations success. This is not a healthy business strategy for anyone which is why they need to broaden their profit center.

With the PS3 they have the ability to broaden multiple distinct markets and have the potential to create more. They retain the Playstation brand, they are heavily invested in Blu-Ray which includes movies along with games, they had alot invested in Cell which could have had the ability to penetrate computing on many levels, and of course the PS3 helps push HDTV sales.

This is a brilliant business move by Sony, but it has it's price. To include all these technologies, they needed to significantly raise the price of their console. This has cut down the profitability of the Playstation brand and has cut down their market share in the console business drastically. This is why the PS3 has a "10 year" plan. They knew launching the PS3 was a risk and would have a very big affect on market share which would take a longer time to regain.

The PS3 doesn't have to be number 1, but they do need to be successful. I believe Sony knew they would have a significant decrease in sales when the PS3 launched, but clearly they are selling less than they anticipated since they have revised their sales forcasts, their investment in Cell development and manufacturing, the PS3 hardware itself to artifically lower the price and of course they have moved quite a few key execs associated with the Playstation brand.

None of this indicates Sony will fail, but it does clearly show that they are under-performing by their own standards and not those of the uninformed public. What we are seeing is Sony re-evaluating and changing the way they do business in order to rectify sales and move forward. They are a very big company and know what they are doing.

-Death

[guerojose]

Gawd, every single day brings at least three more "articles" linked to by every useless gaming site, trying to convince the world how badly Sony is doing.

How about these sites do their readers an actual service, and provide some useful information instead? Like maybe a follow-up on the latest failure rates for the Xbox 360. Or the status of the various private and class-action suits against Microsoft for the product-recall-that-wasn't.

Sounds like some people are getting increasingly desperate and shrill because they don't like seeing the amazing games that PS3 owners get to play, or the likely effects of the price cut that they were all screaming for just a few months ago.

Pathetic.

[Bladestar]

lol... Last generation sony was lucky enough to not have anyone that could prossibly give them any competition.... Microsoft original xbox aside from being very late, didnt have any brand recognition, brand loyalty, price advantage, 3rd party developer support, game library, and everything else that Sony had the upper hand. Obviously Sony understimated what a company with lots of resources like microsoft can do.... what Sony decided to do? make an over priced console thats more difficult to make games for compared to the xbox 360.... lol... good Job Sony... It's not that Sony did a bad console compared to the PS2 or PS1... PS2 owners love the PS3 when they compare it to the PS2... duhhh.. it's a great console... no question about it... the question is... when you compare it to the competition... when you compare the games, the online service, the 3rd party support, the price and ask.... as a gamer... is it worth paying more for the PS3? obviously Sony fanboy fanboys will say yes.... but not everyone is a fanboy... and this is reflected by the number of people buying xbox 360 and games vs PS3 and the games....
you can be angry and call people xbots... nothing change that fact. get over it. lol.
I still think this will be a close race in this generation as far as which console is going to be the dominant... But what about next gen? xbox live matured, people are more willing to give a try to the xbox brand, there is brand recognition, there is a fanbase, developers love making games on the xbox 360, the platform is stablished... what changes do you think Sony will have on the next generation?
Microsoft will release their next console in 3 years.. and Nony on their what? what did they say.... 9 years? 8? lol...
Microsoft can end this for Sony now if they wanted to... drop all xbox 360 by $100... they obviously have the money... Microsoft obviously need competitors around... let people adapt to the idea that there are other console aside from the PS3... It's not on microsoft interested to piss up those that think only Playstation exists as far as game console is concern... the destruction of the Playstation brand does not equal that everyone will jump into the xbox 360... the same effect that happened when Nintendo lost to Sony... lost of people abandon console gaming... because they loved Nintendo... many of them came back after a while... It's better for microsoft to continue to steal gamers from Sony... then to kill the brand... and hurt the game industry... Many Sony fanboys will leave console gaming if Sony quits...

[Jeppe]

Did you follow my link above? (Don't buy that Playstation)

You said:
"Last generation sony was lucky enough to not have anyone that could prossibly give them any competition"

From that article(2000):
"I could not care less if the $299 PS2 can play movies. I'd rather pay less and get a machine that just plays games instead. In comparison, the Sega Dreamcast sells for $149 and has a giant library of games already available. Sega also has an online game network, Seganet."

You said:
"what Sony decided to do? make an over priced console thats more difficult to make games for compared to the xbox 360."

From that article(2000):
"Sony has reversed positions with Sega and stupidly released a system that is in many ways a game developer's nightmare. Sega, learning from its Saturn debacle, went out of its way to make the Dreamcast easy to develop games for." "John Carmack, one of the developers behind such massively popular games as Doom and Quake, said that the "PS2 is definitely more powerful than Dreamcast. But it's less convenient to extract performance from it."

I Guess history could repeat itself.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Its funny how similar bladestar sounds to the guy from the link.

[Death]

They were flat broke. Without any money to really push the console, they didn't stand a chance. By the time the PS2 launched, Sega had already given all they had. Microsoft is in a little bit better of a situation.

-Death

[sonyfanonly]

you are correct when you say sony fanboys will quit gaming as a whole if sony goes out of the gaming world becuase me a die hard sony fan would quit gaming all together because gaming would suck after that im 21 yrs old and started gaming with nintendo MARIO ZELDA yada yada not my thing the SEGA systems not my thing SONY is the only game makers that made games that i loved and respected for what they brought to the gaming world and as for the comments about M$ could end this by dropping the 360 by 100 bucks it aint worked in the past and it wont work in the future and that alone wont knock sony out of the gaming world why do you think sony has won for 2 generations they actually care for their consumers and want leave them hanging like M$ did with the first xbox didnt peter moore learn anything from segas mistake about having 4 platforms out at once --------------- SONY IS STILL the winner because no other system can beat the ps2

[PimpHandHappy]

do you really think Sony is going to leave gaming? If anyone does think that they are truley a fool. If the market ppl are right both systems will end up in the 50mil range when they get replaced

U compare the xbox to the 360 and the PS2 to the PS3 in terms of sales. Thats really not a fair comparison when you consider the PS2 as the biggest seller the history of gaming and no system will ever top the sales the PS2 has had and is still having.

If you really want to compare sales between MS and Sony why dont we just go to there gaming divsions and see who sells more units and makes more money in the world of gaming

MS has 22mil xbox and 14mil 360's

Sony has 110mil PS2's 40-50mil PSP 6-7mil PS3's. Might be more like 8-9mil by years end for the PS3

[PimpHandHappy]

this article is from a 360 site so i will let u pass on your trolling. You must be going crazy waiting for PS3 news to troll so i understand you needed to jump on this one

that just happens to be from ur daddys website

[gnothe1]

for the sony boys that say the Ps3 is selling at the same rate as the 360, heres a link that shows the opposite of what you guys are saying. an that the PS3 is actually selling much worse than the 360 was in its first year!!

http://n4g.com/industrynews...

i wanna see the spin you guys put on this!!

[ToeKneeHaze]

Just recently, I became a console owner, in fact since the 15 years or so I have been gaming, its been on the PC. But I just realized a lot of things this year since buying my PS3. Mainly, console gamers are an immature breed of constant whiners and complainers and most often filled with such ignorance and lack of general respect for anyone its a wonder the gaming industry even takes you seriously. But lets not forget how many $$$ you and your parents contribute in the end. It is unreal how much jr high antics is involved in owning a console. It is a piece of hardware thats supposed to give your life a bit more entertainment, it is not a country flag, a call to arms etc etc. Why the hell does everyone have to put down someone else's console often with little regard to fact and mostly just to solidify their reasons for their own purchase so they dont feel buyers remorse in the end.

I am just so sick of reading stupid remarks on these websites. Why don't you guys just love your own console and stop putting down eachother?

Sometimes I wish everyone just owned a PC, but then again people would find a way to put eachother down that way too...

And I applaud Sony in the end because I am 34, I have a mild income, not rich but not poor, their system suits me and thats why I bought it...I didnt buy it because I could show up other console users or that I had to have the next generation of something. Sometimes a product is a good fit. end of story. Stop the incessant complaining about the insignificant things in life.

[kornbeaner]

you are also contributing to the problem, with your judgement that Most console owner/gamers are immature. While I will agree with you that the majority of those that come up with stupid remarks on this site are fanboys of the console varity, dosen't mean we are all like that. A lot of us including myself also PC game, console game and have owned a large varity of systems the only major release console I am missing are the 360 and Wii. While at times I get caught into all this ignorant banter, that does't stop me from enjoying a good game on whatever system it arrives on, Except for PC cause the lastest and greatest game is a crapshoot if the hardware is more then a year old.

[The Wood]

'nvidia sucks'. lol.

This site is overrun with ignorant people and sometimes they're the minority which seems strong. There are many smart people on this site including some of the fanboys to be fair and sometimes we all get sucked into a little banter but yes i wish that this site could filter out the stupid ones of ALL sides. I shouldn't have to hide comments made by others from the people around me, thats embarrassing.

[reckoner]

I don't think Sony has "misfortune". Have you checked their 2008 lineup?

One could only guess why this article is from a site called "planetxbox360.com"

[sonyfanonly]

yes the ps3 is selling good considering the fact that we barely just got 2 AAA games UNCHARTED and RATCHET and CLANK the ps3 is selling better than the ps2 its first year and look how pop. that system is the 360 has been out for almost 2 yrs and barely broke the 12 mil mark with what 2 AAA titles GEAR OF WAR and the overhyped piece of sh$t HALO 3 really that game was way to overated

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

ohhhh Snap!

[spike]

PS3 SUCKS

[Rhezin]

hey sony fan check your scores, uncharted and ratchet are not AAA over 90% most reviews gave them scores in the 80's. Bioshock and Halo 3 are triple A as well as Gears of War. You may not like those games, but numbers don't lie especially Halo 3 which ps3 fans are born to hate, but come on don't be stupid it has sold more copies than any ps3 game out.

[jazzmanb]

While the ps3 is a good system with a built in blue ray player,its still behind the 360 in raw power..despite what many would like to believe the ps3 was overhyped regarding its power,and i personally believe the specs are twisted and false..it was a clever move by sony to include the blue ray player,because without this hddvd would have won the format war,but because of the blue ray player,gamers well buy blue ray movies...the problem here is that sonys machine took a huge stride backwards in the tech department,anotherwords a lot of the original tech was stripped due to costs..whether the public well ever know or not,is still i question,but its fairly obvious to any reasonable person that the ps3 isnt all that powerful,at least in respect to the hype once talked about...im sure well keep hearing,"wait till devs figure it out" but the truth is they have figured it out,and its got issues beyond belief..many games such as uncharted have huge texture drops and screen tearing issues,and even more,the advanced lighting was stripped out for a more stable one...the ps3 is a step behind the 360 in power,much like the ps2 was to the original xbox..this shouldnt be a huge issue,as its still got a lot of power,but when it was hyped on its power,are gamers going to continue to believe that developers havnt figured it out...thats the real question..

[kornbeaner]

Please post a link to a video that shows these so called HUGE texture drops and screen tearing in Uncharted. You like the 360 and thats fine, but just as you dislike what Sony has done with the PS3, what about MS and the Shortcuts they took with the 360. No next-gen storage format therefore relying on the ANA/HANA chip to upscale a lower resolution to one that is defined as High-def, not having a proper Cooling system causing many the dreaded RRoD. How about the fact that the graphics chip is made by ATI, who are just getting owned up be Nvidia in every since of the word when it comes to that department and had they waited they could've released the 360 with a graphics card that was Fully DirectX10 capable and not some DirectX 9.5
card that can do SOME things DirectX10 can. Sony might not have delivered what they had been promising but MS missed the spot as well releasing a whole year early. If the 360 was truely PERFECT there would be no need for HALO 3 to rely on the ANA/HANA chip to upscale its weak 640P resolution to something really considered High DEF.

[Bullseye]

Not a Sony fan by any means, but i fail to see the validity in this being posted.May i ask the poster exactly what part of this drivel is news?

[ReBurn]

It wasn't posted as news. It was posted as an article. So I guess that no part of it is news.

[AngryTypingGuy]

While I don't think the PS3 will be as dominant as the PS2, I think it will be fine in the end.

The PS3 is a powerful system, but the problem is that Sony says that their systems will be able to do things before they are truly sure that they'll be able to do them. Remember the jaw dropping game promos that they showed a couple of E3's ago. Remember how they were still pretty the next year, but not quite as impressive? I believe that this is where the whole "empty promises" thing came from. They need to stop putting their foots in their mouths.

[DFresh]

This guy is totally dumb and doesn't know what he's talking about
The only thing Sony messed up on was not having a good line up in 06'
I'd rather have delayed games than over heating problems with the RROD.
F*** MS and there unreliable Xbomb console.

[biosrios]

what specs are you looking at? if you want to talk about raw power, take a look at some cell specs and try to understand what it means and how it translates in a videogame environment. it simply means that the ps3 is in a whole league of its own

[360Crusader]

A good read. But the PS3 running 120 fps? I learned that the human eye cant see more then 70 fps, so if that's the case. We wouldn't even be able to see it. It be just a blur to us. Anyways the dude finishing it off with a quote from Sun Tzu that pretty cool. I read that quote in The Art Of War a while back. And the over heating 360 issue is a crock, mine never over heats only if I shut the doors on my entertainment stand. It called fools who dont know how to ventilate their console properly.
RROD as far as that goes I only hope the new parts will solve it.
I like both, but I'll take my half ass built 360 over my PS3 any day.
It just better suite's my tastes. Try not to get to upset by my statement Sony fan boys.

[CraigLJ7]

I have both systems as well, but favor the PS3. I already returned my Xbox 360 once and hope I don't have to again. I love Gears, Bioshock and the Orange Box. I also love Heavenly Sword, R$C, RFOM, and looking forward to Uncharted. I also chose the PS3 version of COD4 - great game, plays great. Overall the PS3 is a better quality system. I'm no Sony fanboy, and rarely post on any forums. Just calling as I see it.

Cheers.

[360Crusader]

Cool man your entitled to your opinion. If I were to base my favorite system on reliability I would choose the PS3 as well. But I dont, quality games is my mainstream for choice that why I chose 360 as my favorite.
( that and its online system ) I'm also looking forward to uncharted drake fortune as soon as I have the money lol. I'll be spending the last of my money on Mass Effect when it comes out. COD4 I picked up the 360 version it's a sweet game.
Bioshock and Gears are both awesome games too. Gears got the best co op to date in my opinion.

[sak500]

THe ps3 sales are mostly for being cheap bd player. Most of the games are being sold less than 200k. Who the fcuk thinks its the gamers buying it then? So only 2 games worth buying a $500 pos console in its first year. Maybe end of 2nd year will see 3-4 more titles which are atleast AA to justify buying it. Till then poor chaps keep waiting beyond

[CraigLJ7]

I'm thinking about buying Mass Effect as well. I'm not much for RPG's, I need fast action. Hopefully Mass Effect won't be boring. As for games, the PS3 had a slow start for sure but the games are rolling in now. No one with clear thinking can deny the awesome games coming--Uncharted,UT3, MGS4, FF and others. Don't give up on your PS3 yet, there is a lot of great gaming to be had.

[360Crusader]

I've never given up on the PS3. I agree PS3 is starting to pick up its pace. But 360 has never slowed down and shows no signs of it. 360 has an exclusive called Infinite Undiscovery thats being made I think that will be Final Fantasy equal. Look on XBL they have a trailer for it you can download.

360 will get Unreal 3 just at a later date.
And far as MGS4 goes thats one game the PS3 has up on the 360 and I will be looking forward to it.

And Mass Effect I think will be great its not a pure bred rpg anyways has 3rd person shooter aspect added into it, even positioning you squad, so I think it worth taking a chance on
( even if your not into rpg's ). I've seen trailers of the game play it may offer you a decent level of face pace action your into.
Mass Effect may be GOTY! If it pulls it off and it certainly has the potential to do so.

[Xbox is the BEST]

Sony predicted 10 million sold by Sept. 2007, competition don't matter, next gen don't start till we say so, Xbox 1.5, BD movies outselling games. In the real world Sony in trouble.
Play Beyond

[Xbox is the BEST]

Sony predicted 10 million sold by Sept. 2007, competition don't matter, next gen don't start till we say so, Xbox 1.5, BD movies outselling games. In the real world Sony in trouble.
Play Beyond

[jazzmanb]

kornbeaner, the demo proved that uncharted has tearing issues,just look up and down with the camera really quickly,and watch the screen tear as it tries to catch up[refresh]...also the cell is the ps3 weakest virtue..it didnt work for the ps3 and the cell is essentially dead for gaming...its too pipelined, ineffiecent and bottlenecked for gaming...also the graphic card in the 360 wipes the floor with the ps3 card..on a side note just played assasins on the ps3,and it looks far worse on the ps3,im really surprised more reviews havnt pointed that out...same could be said for cod4,it also looks significantly sharper with better lighting on the 360...all these things are obvious however,fanboy or not,eyes dont lie..

[kornbeaner]

okay I have played the demo countless times and have not noticed the issue maybe it's the way I have my PS3 hooked up to my PC Monitor but I have not noticed it. So again if this is an issue you are experiencing then I really don't know what to say. As far as Assasins goes I haven't played it at all and I'll keep comment on that. Funny thing you should mention Call of Duty 4 , cause I had been testing it for the 3 months prior to release at Activision, were I got to test all 3 versions of the game and know what your are saying is nothing but BS!. The only difference graphics wise between the versions, to me anyways is the color. The 360 seems to do that with all games, the colors seem very saturated at times, but that up to the perfernce of the indiviuals playing the games. As far as the cell goes, it was suppose to be a 1 in all chip doing both Graphics and Gameplay code at once and was developed to do that. While the end result was not what Sony was expecting, the main reason why they went with an off the shelf Nvidia GPU, Cell can handle graphics as shown by many demos doing things like Raytracing and the Brown Bunny Project (wish I could remember the program that was running.). So in a sense the PS3 can be considered to have a GPU and a half. The only problem with cell is that it had a hard time doing animations and movement thats the reason for the GPU. Now lets see the CPU's (not GPU) in the 360 match the performance of the Cell running somthing like Raytracing or the Brown Bunny Project, it wont do, it cant. Folding at home is all done by cell and the PS3 does it faster then any CPU outthere. So the Power is there. The reason why its trailing is because most of the 3rd party developers don't want to learn somthing new. Insomniac, Naughty dog and many other 1st, 2nd even close 3rd party developers have taking the time to not port 360 code and write code for the PS3 and the games have spoken for themselves. The "lazy developer" thoery has been proven over and over again when a Developer like Infinity Ward and Insomniac write code meant to only run on the PS3 the games are awesome, but when you have developers like EA who do nothing more then try to get 360 code to run on the PS3 the results speak for themselves.

[Zhuk]

The PS3 has been nothing short of a disaster, it is really this generations Gamecube or Sega Saturn. You have a machine that costs more and is less powerful than the Xbox 360, drives up game development costs because of its terrible design and also the half baked online service that has Sony fanboys cheering over the scraps they get every week while the rest of us enjoy the true next-gen quality of service that is on Xbox Live.

It's not hard to see why people are choosing to Jump In when the competition is so inferior.

[DJ]

I uh..guess you haven't played Uncharted yet. Not sure why you're bagging on PSN either. It's completely free, and I'm playing Call of Duty 4 without a hitch every night.

[redmamoth]

Me too... Not a single hitch... Oh and Warhawk, Motorstorm and RFOM!! How many games on xbox live will let you play 40 player DM and TDM???

Man some people are so uneducated it's untrue. This guy has probably never even played a PS3. Zhukoff!

[ROCCOZILLA]

xbots are getting scared because the PS3 is going in for the kill.2008 will be the end for M$.the clock is ticking.your just haters!

[360Crusader]

I think your exaggerating, if the original Xbox survived the PS2, the PS3 will certainly be incapable of killing it off. Thats providing the PS3 ever passes up the 360.
Next time think before you open your mouth fan boy.

[Genki]

Anyone ever notice that those who are the most critical, displeased, and opposed to the PS3 are folks who probably don't want one?

Day in and day out, you hear someone whining about how they're so offended and upset by the PS3 lacking game type A or feature set B. Pfft, who the hell are you trying to kidd?

Anyway, despite it all, it's good to see these sort of things FINALLY on their last legs. The tripe and bullcrap is coming to a close, and it's evident in this that more people than usual aren't dignifying the BS as much as they used to. Probably shouldn't have taken as long as it has, but hey, better late than never.

I expect the trolls to have exhausted all of their ammunition by the time the year comes to a close.

[Jamegohanssj5]

Members and their biased comments, they really make me laugh.

[NanoGeekTech]

OK....Is it me or that was a complete waste of my time... For one there are no metions of Uncharted!!!!which will be out soon if not already. Its the best looking game on any console. He does not mention that PS3 is an OPEN system that can be upgraded. I own a 360 and I love do not get me wrong. But I also own a PS3 and after playing HS,R&C,Folklore,and the uncharted demo how can you honestly write an article like that. It obvious this moron do not own a PS3. I think alot people that talk sh*t about the PS3 really do not own one. He mentions there are only a few games coming out next year.....I will bet they are a few games currently be made for the PS3 that we have no idea about that will come out next year. He does not mention anything about the PS3 eyetoy.......great potentional. It perplex me when I read this stuff, I really do not understand....how can people bad mouth a pretty good system. If you are a TRUE GAMER SH*T you should appericate the PS3, 360, and Wii...... This is the first time in a very long time that we have three great systems to choose from. You have a Honda Accord, Lexus ES350, and then you have the Bentley Continental. Personnal I would like to have all three and be happy. Variety is a great thing in life....... And if you have not really played or own a PS3 please do your self a favor keep the dumb SH^T to yourself...................... .........

[360Crusader]

Not to start anything but Uncharted is a good game. But Mass Effect and Gears of War are the 2 best looking games to date on any console.
Just my 2 cents.

[vaan]

Just because Mass Effect looks pretty does not mean it won't be a over hyped, BS review score pile of boring sh1t like the KOTOR games.

[360Crusader]

Edit:

Not what I meant he was speaking in terms of graphics so I responded in kind thats all. Graphics are 3rd in my book to game play and story.
But Mass Effect does have better graphics then Uncharted does it not?

[jazzmanb]

uncharted is not the best looking game out..not even close actually...assaisins,cod4,mass effect,gears,bioshock wipe the floor with uncharted..in fact as fun as uncharted looks,the graphics dont look all that great...they lack the bells and whistles of a lot of games,and it has a very generic look to it..its not even technically all that impressive...though the game well be a lot of fun...also the ps3s cell is the weakspot,whether or not its supposed to be able to run two seperate tasks at once or not...the 360 does this with gears actually,that was the first game that used two of the three processors on 360 to run separate ai programs...despite all the hype on the cell,its dead,toshiba now owns it,and it wont EVER be used again,for gaming that is...the ps3 is just as behind the 360 technically as the ps2 was to the original xbox...its time people except the truth..

[jax07]

Please if you are going to say things like bells and whistles and expect us to take you seriously EXPLAIN what the hell bells adn whistles pretains to you dumb f#ck. Jizzmanb!tch, explain to us how it looks generic because from what I read and hear it is one of the best looking games on any system. I guess everyone but you must be stupid. Please post some images and compare Uncharted to these other games that you have mentioned.Jizzmanb!tch, you have been exposed, fanboy to the fullest.

I b!tch slap fanboys, true gamers play games not fight about them you fanboy sissies and you know who you are.

[N4GayFanturds]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/c...

Ken Kutaragi is Sony Computer Entertainment's president and chief executive, the man who launched the PlayStation and PlayStation 2, and one of the most influential men in the games industry. Renowned for having a clear vision of the future of the industry, he hinted at some unusual developments.

Does he think there is room for three consoles? "Yes," he said. "This market is continuously growing up, and the content is being enhanced year by year."

When asked whether online gaming is important for Sony, Kutaragi alluded to Sony's strength being an empire that combines videogames, music, film and consumer electronics: "Our question is how to broaden the service in each country with the current limited network. In Japan, you can now access always-on services for about £20 per month, which is cheap.

"Games consoles have huge potential but current servers are based on PC technology. Our online policy is open, the same as the internet: Microsoft's is always closed."

Kutaragi plans to revamp the back end of the internet, through a joint project with IBM and Toshiba codenamed the Cell Project, which is engaged mainly in semiconductor research. He says: "The Cell Project is for the future: not of the client, but the network itself."

Kutaragi does not accept that the more powerful Xbox will rush Sony into unveiling the PlayStation 3 earlier than planned, but he does hint that Sony's next console will be more of a general entertainment device and, intriguingly, speaks of collaboration: "If other consoles wanted to communicate and collaborate, it would be impossible. But in future, it will be like the internet is now: all types of information will be transferred and exchanged through the network. Our main target is the living room."

[Enigma_2099]

I was gonna just write this off as yet another article to bash Sony, but then I was intrigued... maybe there was something interesting in it... then I saw planetxbox360.com under the link.

Nevermind.

[Enigma_2099]

You know it's true. Who in their right mind expects a Xbox 360 site to speak positively about the competition?

This article has about as much worth as you two... none at all.

[hadouken007]

this is alomost like the forty and sixties, black ps3-white360. sad!