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Where In The World Is Gran Turismo?

Has GT5 already surrendered to Forza Motorsport 4?

The 2011 Tokyo Game Show has come and gone with nary a solitary whisper regarding Gran Turismo 5.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx4613d ago

I love Gt5, what they need to do for me though is release some DLC! I want more Rally Races!!! :)

SAE4613d ago

i heared they are making a dlc , hope it's true :)

buddymagoo4613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

Doing real life race driver (Coulthard) vs GT5 drivers competitions and such
http://www.gtplanet.net/beh...

Also seasonal events are updated constantly. Would really look forward to some DLC though!

The_Claw4613d ago

"Where in the world is Gran Turismo?

Still trying to finish the 24hr endurance race...

I friggin love this game, but i hated the way the leveling system worked. There were times where i had to literally race the same event 10-15 times just to move on to the next one.

I love both franchises, GT5 is a better simulator but Forza is a better overall game. Lets hope for some GT5 dlc this fall.

Dante1124613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

Forza had to many glitches and bugs for me to be considered better overall, plus almost all of their tracks had inconsistencies (Turns to early or way more than the real life ones). The customizations it had ranks it high in my fav car games though.

Edit: @ Below folks

Huh, GT5 didn't sell bad. It sold 5.5 million in 12 days and it's still selling on not only uk amazon but the american amazon well (placing in the top hundred).

sikbeta4613d ago

I'll love some DLC, but I just hope they're working on making Every car Premium for the next GT...

ApplEaglElephant4613d ago

Yes, GT5 sold 5.5 million in 12 days.

but why do people keep bringing up sales?

It does not reflect quality at all. Wii has most sold games and it doesnt mean anything.

Nexgensensation4613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

I didnt really like gt5 at all, except for the driving, tuning, and racing. winning cars were kinda stale. They had no use wats so ever in the first parts of the game. 2 the events were very dis-A-POINTING! excuse me) I didnt even wanna go to level 40!

Dee_914613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

More than likely waiting for forza to come out to release dlc lol
Kaz said a big update between mid september and mid october

These games ripping people off by releasing DLC a week after its release got people spoiled.
That stuff should already be in the game.

And wait GT5 fallen off ?

Did anybody whose into gt5 not notice that theres basically a show on Speedtv ( basic cable ) about GT5 ? http://www.gtplanet.net/gt-...

cmon now just because they didnt show up at a few game shows dont mean anything

Sony didnt have enough time to talk about games thats already out.too busy talking about games to come..

Boody-Bandit4613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

Wow IGN is bottom feeding again. How in the hell can a game on one console surrender to one on another? GT5 is still selling and there are more than a couple people on my friends list playing it till this day.

Turn 10 needs to focus their efforts on wheels instead of Kinect. That is one area GT out shines the Forza series and it doesn't look like that is going to change since Turn 10 has gone on record stating that "most" Forza fans use a pad and not a wheel.

Back on topic:
IGN you remind me of Rare. Once great but now just another in a long list of disappointments.

Bull5hifT4613d ago

Forza motorsport 6,7,8... Etc.. Doesnt have anything on Gran Turismo, they need a creator thats as passionate about cars as the GT creator, and are willing to use up as many dvd's to make that vision come true

Dee_914613d ago

@Brutallyhonest
forza 4 has a Fanatec wheel ..
http://forzamotorsport.net/...

Boody-Bandit4613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

Dmarc
I own 3 Fanatec wheels (2 911S & 1 GT2), all of which support the 360, and I am waiting for Fanatec to start taking preorders for the CSR Elite as well. BUT having a wheel compatible with the 360 and Forza is not the same as having the game (Forza) designed for said wheel.

Go to insidesimracing dot tv and watch the interview for yourself where they said exactly what I wrote above nearly word for word.

"Yes our game will work with various wheels but our focus was on Kinect. Besides most Forza fans use a gaming pad to play our game."

Forza is NOT designed for 900 degrees of rotation. With that said Forza handles nicely with a wheel but it's not on the same level that GT does on a 900 degree wheel. GT5 feels more realistic and natural with wheel response and rotation.

There might be 1 or 2 members of N4G that are bigger Forza fans than me. Why do you think I own so many wheels that support the console? I'm, as usual, just being honest.

gumchewinasskikr4613d ago

Brutallyhonest

Turn en must think that playing with a gamepad is the most realistic way to race.

buddymagoo4612d ago

Everyone seen the new GT5 F1 Ferrari wheel? Awesome!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

Boody-Bandit4612d ago (Edited 4612d ago )

Oh I don't know of which I speak? Watch for yourself in the latest video of Turn 10 on ISR from Gamesconn which just surfaced today.
http://insidesimracing.tv/v...

5 mins in Dan basically brushes off wheel support and how not many are supporting them. Uh no Dan, most don't because of MS and their lame certification / PAY ME FOR EVERYTHING mentality. Most sim fans prefer wheels to pads.

It's just you (Turn 10) are use to not having a lot of wheels to work with because of those certification fees and companies like MOMO, Thrustmaster and Logitech not supporting the 360 for that very reason.

Up until Fanatec starting supporting the 360 all you had to work with was MS's cheap POS (270 degrees of rotation) and a really low level Logitech (also 270 degrees).

Again, I'm sure Forza 4 will handle nicely on a wheel but Turn 10 does not go out of their way to make sure it will. Huge difference and hardcore sim fans and especially veteran wheel users, know this.

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theonlylolking4613d ago

I want some new tracks, and more premium cars. For GT6 I want all cars to be premium graphics or better, tons of tracks, 2 player races with Ai and more community features like forza.

SAE4613d ago

that's what i expect from gt6 if it's a ps4 game , gt5 is almost full blue ray so it's possible that they are making it on the ps4 , they made a big progres , they just need to edit like the cars and add stuff like the tuning...

kikizoo4613d ago

"Oh look daddy, antoher IGN dumb trollarticle"

"don't worry son, they have to hide the 2011 mass quality exclusives, they have to use all their imagination"

"it's curious, for GT5, they don't talk about sales, like R3 ?"

"hmm, lol"

Number_134612d ago

Didn't they score Resistance 3 a 9??

AlienLion4612d ago

This was actually a well written article for once and I agree 100%. stop trolling.

BrianC62344613d ago

If they're going to do anything how about making some of the standard cars detailed? I'd like the Bugatti Veyron in camera mode. Maybe a group of 25 great cars.

andibandit4612d ago

Where is Gran Turismo??, well it's problably 4 years away thats where it is.

showtimefolks4612d ago

ign is mad because a game doesn't have dlc? If that's the case than they will hate dark souls too because it won't have DLC

how did we survive before the dlc packs.

and ign's point of forza 3 having dlc every month how is that a good thing? Gt5 was not a perfect game but the content in the game was more than enough for 60 bucks.

and if you count GT5P and the actual GT5 combined they have sold over 11 million copies without any dlc go figure.
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now to GT5 and Forza comparison:

forza is a mixture of arcade/sim and it does quite a few things right. Its online is better than Gt5 and its community features are better than GT5. But it does have few bugs nothing wrong with that.9/10

Gt5 got 3 things right in my opinion

Car Physics
weather affects
and the actual content for 60 with those 200 plus premium cars. It never needed 100 plus cars alll we need are 200-300 and spend rest of your time to make other parts of the game better next time.9/10
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i think we can all agree both GT and Forza can learn something good from each other.

PD's team is a little over 100 employees of which a lot of them actually race for teams in real so they don't work on games all year around

Turen-10 has over 400 employees

so maybe PD should hire few more devs to speed up the process for GT6 which i believe we will see in fall 2012

also this article is nothing but fanboy wars nothing less nothing more they just looking for hits

xX-StolenSoul-Xx4612d ago

very high expectations, fall 2012 eh. It took em years just for Gt5 i somehow doubt 2012 seems plausible.

Gray-Fox-Type04612d ago (Edited 4612d ago )

Forza killed Gran Turismo along time ago...

showtimefolks4612d ago

in terms of sales the argument the whole xbox community always brings up. GTP a demo sold 5 million while forza 3 didn't. GT5 sold 6 million in 12 days?

end of the day like i have said before hopefully future gt and forza games will become better learning from each other and that's the best we can hope for.

Gt series has a much much bigger name than forza and that's just because GT series has existed for longer period of time

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coolbeans4613d ago

That's a stupid question (not the title, the question in the summary). There's no reason for PD to rush a DLC announcement just for the sake of taking a jab at the competition.

callahan094613d ago

So because you're not seeing a year-old game in the headlines, they're insinuating that it means the developer and publisher have conceded defeat to a brand new game that doesn't even come out on the same platform to provide a direct competition?

Anon19744613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

Yeah, this left me scratching my head as well. The game came out, sold over six million, and yet the games media is still trying to find new ways to bash it.

Dante1124613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

That's what I was thinking. First the journalists said it flopped since the npd report numbers didn't reach one million in the first week (PD releases 5.5 million numbers), then they went "well it scored poorly, just lower than GT4" when it still had a high 86 rating (how come GeOW3 didn't get these "scored lower than previous game" articles), now they're saying PD has giving up on the game since they haven't shown off their DLC at the TGS event lol. Priceless...

CoReI5K4613d ago (Edited 4613d ago )

Well while i was strolling merrily down the street i happen to see Gran Turismo in the Bargian Bin in a games store lol.......true story no joke :)

Number_134613d ago

Well yeah, SONY cuts the price of all platinum games. Although Motorstorm Apocalype is far from platinum as far as sales go, they cut that price because it was simply not selling.

sikbeta4613d ago

MS:A was released in the worst way possible, after the Japanese earthquake, they had to move the release date when in some places it was selling already, the game is really good, not the same as Pacific Rift, but both are differents so still great...

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dafada4613d ago

well while i was at my friends place i seen his copy of forza 3 in the garbage in his bathroom lol.....true story no joke.....i'm actually serious it was really in there i just shook my head and didn't even say anything

JellyJelly4613d ago

I hope Forza 4 makes good use of the Top Gear license and the test track.

A worldwide leaderboard for each car and the possibility to download and update stats to challenge the drivers from the show would be cool.

Si-Fly4613d ago

Exactly! GT5 disappointed me hugely with the 3 tedious Top Gear challenges and no Star in a reasonably priced car leaderboard challenge, fingers crossed Forza gets it right...

Number_134613d ago

Can anybody elaborate on the disagrees this fine comment is getting?

JellyJelly4613d ago

Perhaps they hate Top Gear?

eclectified4613d ago

GT fans hoping Turn 10 gets it horribly wrong.

I enjoy both games thoroughly so, I hope T10 does a better job with the Top Gear license.

shayol33t4613d ago

GT fan here: I wish they had more :/ Seriously, I love that show and GT with top gear was a match made in heaven. Fun but needs more.

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PlayStation 3: chasing the 1080p dream, part three - Gran Turismo 5 and the indie explosion

From Digital Foundry: "Welcome to the third part in the biggest DF Retro episode we've ever produced - a year-by-year look at how 1080p gaming fared on the PlayStation 3. Launched in 2007 touting its then-exclusive HDMI digital interface, Sony layered full HD gaming on top of its Cell processor and RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' as key selling points for its third generation console. Of course, we all know how that turned out - both Sony and Microsoft machines routinely ran the most advanced titles at sub-720p resolutions, often with questionable performance, so what happened to the 1080p dream?

In the first two parts of John Linneman's investigation, we've covered off the first four years of the Triple's lifecycle and moving into 2010, the overall fortunes of the PlayStation 3 continued to improve. The platform holder released - what was then - the most advanced motion controller in the console space, backed up by experiments with stereoscopic 3D, which turned out to be a short-lived but still formidable pairing. Combined with a strong E3 showing, PS3 was looking good.

However, it's fair to say that it was a fallow year for 1080p gaming on the system, with only Scott Pilgrim Saves The World's razor-sharp pixel art upscaling, Castle Crashers and Soldner X2's 3D/FMV stylings accommodating full HD output - alongside a wonderful Monkey Island remaster."

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ApocalypseShadow658d ago (Edited 658d ago )

Just remember ladies and gentlemen, Sony never said all games would be 1080p. Only that the system would support games up to 1080p in a survey before the system was released.
https://spong.com/article/9...
And as we saw, some games did support it, some games tried their best to support it and some games didn't or never reached it.

Is a higher resolution great to have if you can do it? Sure. Is it necessary for a fun game? No

But what I find interesting is Eurogamer. Are they really talking about HD and PS3 in their article or are they really pushing their 4.50 Euros 4K video download subscription? Seems one is being used to sell the other. Just look at the bottom of the article.

Michiel1989658d ago

thats what every company tries to do, push for people to buy their products. Are you really gonna blame them for that?

ApocalypseShadow658d ago

Not all articles are about selling. They're about informing or entertaining.

Maybe I'm supposed to watch the video instead of reading. But I shouldn't have to click. But the article lazily tells us some games did hit 1080p and some didn't. I didn't learn anything new as I own the console. Then, they push a Patreon subscription.

Are you saying every opinion, preview, review and rant article requires a push to buy something now? Tell me which sites are prone to do so so that I can avoid them in the future.

Michiel1989658d ago

not everyone played during the ps3 era. I started during snes era but loved seeing articles/videos about how gaming evolved before that.

i dont think this article is trying to push you to get that patreon sub, it doesnt for me at least. I dont think theres anything wrong putting an ad at the bottom of the article. all the regular DF videos are free already.

SonyStyled658d ago

Wipeout HD on PS3, a remake of the PS1 game was 1080p 60fps. And that released in 2007-08

Christopher658d ago

This really feels like a filler article. I don't feel like I learned anything notable or substantial from this. I feel they could have reduced the unnecessary intro and over-explanation of things and put the whole series in one article for a more substantial and possibly informative piece rather than piece-mealing it out as they have.

dumahim658d ago

It's more about the video. DF Retro videos are for Patreon members first, and I think the whole thing was one big video. For the youtube channel, it gets chopped up and released weekly.

ApocalypseShadow658d ago

Chris is actually right on this one. Something known already was just kind of washed over in the article. Unless you're supposed to get more in the video. If more is in the video, then more could have been said in the article.

Only thing I learned new was that they are selling a subscription. My point though is that you gain more viewers by having better articles and content.

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Top 10 Rarest Cars in Forza History

KeenGamer: "See the top 10 rarest cars to ever appear in Forza history! Thousands of cars have been featured in Forza since launch and only a handful of them have been really difficult to obtain or, in current state, impossible to drive around with. Although they were once obtainable, it's only for a limited time and, most times, for a certain price."

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MasterChief36241206d ago

I thought this was going to be about the rarest and most valuable cars in the game, based on real life manufacture numbers and value.

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721725d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1724d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1725d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1725d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921725d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1725d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1724d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21724d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1723d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821725d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1725d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1725d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1725d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1725d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1724d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1724d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1724d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21724d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1724d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1724d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1725d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1725d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1725d ago (Edited 1725d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1725d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1725d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1725d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1724d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811724d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1725d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1725d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1725d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1725d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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