Crysis On Consoles Supports 720p, 1080p

Crytek has confirmed that the XBLA and PSN versions of Crysis will support both 720p and 1080p, on both formats.

[Feckles]

How is this even possible, and with 3D support too? If its true, it'll be awesome.

[meetajhu]

Its native 720p and upscaled 1080p. These useless journalists doesn't know anything about tech. And hdmi 1.4 3d is only possible at 720p for 30fps gameplay without input lag. If 1080 it runs at 24fps with 960x1080 for 1 eye something gamers don't want.

[Autodidactdystopia]

Something Is VERY fishy here.

If I were you I would take this with a grain of salt.
Im trying to see how this would be possible, meetajhu Is right about the 1080 trick but even still something doesnt make sense.

What really ate crysis pc was the Sheer polycount combined with some impressive shaders. Ive seen the polycount jump over
4 Million on my pc vanilla. the polycount came from the INSANE amounts of foliage and draw distance, for this to be true they must have pulled literally "Most" of the foliage and started from Scratch strategically putting in where performance would allow.

Not to mention seriously tweaking the LOD settings as well as the Parallax occlusion mapping. maybe shaving off a lot of the smooth shadowing while they were at it. All the while they would have to cut the teture resolution at least in half.

If crysis 2 had pop-in crysis 1 will certainly have it as well seeing as how crysis levels are on average 4-5 times larger than crysis 2 by factor of size.

Something isnt being said. This Claim seriously doesnt make sense what they are claiming seriously isnt possible without totally changing what made the OG crysis great.

Edit: yep this sums up what i was saying Quite nicely.
http://n4g.com/comments/rel...

[gaffyh]

Without even reading it I was going to say, "it's probably upscaled to 1080p." Turns out I was right.

[buddymagoo]

PS3 supports 1.4 Hdmi
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2...

[Sunhammer]

Is Crysis on consoles even confirmed as a HD game? The screenshots make it look sub-HD, so I'm gonna say it's not even native 720 until Digital Foundry confirms the resolution.

[decrypt]

Its unfortunate that console gamers are easily deluded by Developers and hardware makers. They shit out numbers that they cant possibly attain, unfortunately the masses blindly fall for these tricks. Mostly its because they have blind loyalty towards the hardware they own, they would just like to believe that the console they own is some how equal to a super computer.

Unfortunately in the console gaming industry Devs or hardware makers arent scrutinized to the lofty promises they make. In the PC industry when a Hardware maker like Nvidia, Intel or AMD announce something, the hardware is thoroughly tested on various benchmarks before anyone will accept their claims. Hell it goes to the point where if ever Nvidia or AMD try to one up each other by providing trick drivers they end up getting caught and getting flamed, there is no blind fanboisim which lets companies get away with how they please.

Console gamers need to wake up and flame companies when they cant deliver on promises they made just to sell their hardware or games.

[Baka-akaB]

For starters the masses dont know nor care about fps and numbers .

All they'll notice if it's the game doesnt run smoothly . Be it 30 fps or 60 fps .

[decrypt]

Masses will always fall for retarded claims like:

120fps
4D
Toy story graphics

The list goes on lol. No one to verify those claims in the console industry, like i said in the PC industry everything gets benchmarked companies get laughed at when they make lofty claims they are unable to deliver. In the console industry the exact opposite happens, when a company is unable to deliver what they promised the loyal fan base will blindly defend their statements.

[Ju]

Who cares, really? I mean, I am sorry for the PC gamers that the devs squeeze so much out of consoles that is actually good enough for most of the players not going through the hazel of playing around with a PC. That's all that is. It is just not worth it (for me, at least). Of course it looks better on the PC. But yet, it still doesn't justify for me to get bothered getting it there. Disk in, run it (or just run it. PSN title). Done.

[reynod]

@Ju

So does it not matter to you when someone tells you that the car they are selling you does 0-60 in 5.5 secs, where as when you buy the car you discover it actually takes 8 secs? Would you not hold the car maker to their word?

Sure console games are more optimised then PC however in the long run this doesnt matter because PC has too much brute force, entry level to mid range hardware runs most games maxed out. The reason why games cant be as optimised on PC as they are on console because PC has too many configs. However an advantage PC does hold over console is BC. You may buy 1000's of usd worth of games this gen for console, however they may not run next gen, because those games are specifically coded for the console you are currently using. Providing BC for a console maker is a nightmare. I would instantly take the PC side of the deal where hardware makes up for the lack of optimisation you get on console, however i get BC to the thousands of usd worth of software i own.

I would disagree with you regarding simplicity. Steam gaming = Install, click and play. Imo i find it more convienient then having to get disks to play different games.

[Substance101]

"Who cares, really? I mean, I am sorry for the PC gamers that the devs squeeze so much out of consoles that is actually good enough for most of the players"

Lol Ju, you make it look as if PC gamers are getting the rough end of the stick where as its the console gamers who have no option but to play the games at 25-30fps low to mid settings, how is that good enough? sorry but i feel that is a compromise.

A 4 year old GPU like 8800GTX which was launched at the time of consoles plays most games out today in 1080p 35-40fps (still way ahead of consoles, there goes the console optimization argument as they cant even compete with 4 year old hardware, which means PC hardware is being optimized pretty good as well. sure there are some games that are poorly optimized, however there are many more of those on console, many more games a console gamer has to worry about in regards to FPS then a PC gamer with mid range hardware).

The same 8800GTX is today out performed by 100usd GPUs. I guess the argument about PC games not squeezing out enough from PC hardware is uncalled for.

[Kleptic]

Not all 'claims' are BS...it is simply that a lot are not understood...

4D gaming is a perfect example of taking a relatively ignorant community (which is 'gamers' that pick apart every single title and use resolutions, poly counts, and AA amounts to determine what is 'good'...and what isn't...not every day gamers just looking to play new titles)...and talking about rendering technology that they do not understand...

then having it back fire to a degree where people claim its untrue...

4D gaming IS in some games...its just Sony didn't do a very good job of explaining what people is...you take pretty much any developer and ask them about 4D...and they'll start talking about procedural texture rendering...you ask one of these elitist douchebags what 4D is in game design, and they'll flip out screaming how '3D hasn't even been done right!'...when it has nothing to do with that...

procedural texture rendering is simply using additional calculations to change a loaded texture derived from 'time'...meaning, in real time, a loaded texture can have processes attatched to it that allow it to change right in front of you...not change after a load screen, or after it goes off screen or something...but right in front of you...

the best example...pretty much in gaming period...is Drake's clothes in both Uncharted games...get in water and the clothes get 'wet' to the exact depth you went in...get out and they slowly dry right in front of you...

killzone 2 and 3 did it with blood pooling from dead bodies...it would slowly change from dark red to a yellowish color...vehicles in motorstorm have wet mud slung up onto the vehicle, that will dry by the end of the race...you could drive around in a big mud pool, stop, and watch the mud under the manipulated layers on the track slowly dry...

cool...but subtle...

its an extremely complex coding process to make that happen...but because it doesn't make a great screenshot...PC people usually don't care, don't understand it, and still sit back screaming about how old consoles are and can't keep up with the awesomeness of PCs...

point being...1% of people that play video games care...the rest are perfectly happy with what developers have been consistently doing with consoles over the years...

[fullmetal297]

You can get the digital version and not have to worry about a disc all together, like all of the people who uses steam. And if you worry so much about using a disc then why aren't you complaining about almost every game on consoles are on discs.

[GoldenPheasant]

Its unfortunate that I can play every PC game coming out right now on my 5 year old laptop albeit a lower resolution.

F***, the PC Fan Club is always a riot. Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch of how I don't know anything, I was installing 256kb of extra ram to play commander keen back in the day son.

edit: and to that BC business, try running WarlordsIII and we'll see how far you get...even on XP its a nightmare.

I guess those people that keep prev gen consoles are far and between. /s

[Mr_Lu_Kim]

@GoldenPheasant

that was a pathetic rant there mate.

What was you point again?

fail...

[ProjectVulcan]

Lol whats the difference between native 1080p and upscaled 720p? Answer:

Nobody here knows it seems. :-)

It is nice that they have bothered sorting the scaling on the PS3 version, only a few games seem to these days. Uncharted 2 and KZ2 certainly look a bit smoother when forced to upscale.

[Pandamobile]

I only ever notice differences in the UI in upscaled games.

[Bladesfist]

It is all rendered in 720p and then the little scaling chip on the xbox either scales it down or up depending if you have a SD tv or a 1080p tv. The scaling chip does a pretty good job. I Don't know how the ps3 does it.

[Fishy Fingers]

Upscaling does practically nothing, sometimes it actually does more harm than good.

Native > upscaled, even if that means 720 (native) > 1080 (upscaled).

[ProjectVulcan]

Upscaling does nothing? You kidding right?

I agree that 'bad' upscaling can cause problems, and introduce artifacts and such not present in the original image. In that case it is better leaving it be.

However- these machines are capable upscalers. 360 is seriously good at upscaling images to 1080p, doing a stellar job with every single game i have ever seen. This is because the scaling runs on a reserved part of the GPU apparently, possibly a bit of shader time much like in drivers for a modern Pc GPU.

PS3 rarely upscales because its hardware scaler is semi gimped, horizontal scaling only. however when used properly it works pretty damn well- don't believe me? Well then go play GT5 or Wipeout HD which upscale horizontally rather well. Wipeout even does it on the fly and can change res every few frames!

Besides this however many games employ decent software upscalers on PS3. MGS4 for one. It only actually runs 1024 x 768. The scaling isn't perfect, you can see macroblocking in very dark scenes but overall nobody seemed to notice it was running well below a native 1280 x 720 game....

Of you need any more evidence then go look at a good upscaling dvd player. Upscaling will never touch a higher native res, but it can and does significantly improve an image done right.

[Fishy Fingers]

Informative responce, albeit info I'm already aware of, to each their own I suppose, Ive tried swapping between native and upscaled on both PS3 and 360 games, and to be honest, I see little difference. Text/HUD maybe some improvements there, but overall I think it gets more credity than it deserves.

[Eyesoftheraven]

@vulcanproject MGS4's native resolution is actually 1024x576 with 2xMSAA

[ProjectVulcan]

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

MGS4- 1024 x 768 native, 2 x Temporal AA. Temporal really just being a half pixel shift and frame blending method. Bit like Halo reach etc.

The upscaling is pretty good, however on the dark scenes of Act 3 i think it is in eastern europe? You can sometimes make out the artifacts. That was the only time i noticed them though and i have a keen eye.

Still i would much rather have the upscaling and post process AA on that particular game than not!

Same goes for Wipeout and GT5. Upscaling is merely around to help current console output look that little bit better. At least until we have machines that do 1080p as standard. Done well, its better than nothing IMO.

In GT5's case, you can have either 1280 x 720 native, or 1280 x 1080 upscaled horizontally to 1920 x 1080.

I'll take the higher resolution every time, even if it means having to be upscaled the rest of the way.

[hilyou]

the only difference is that if its upscaled the game has problems with fps. because the game isnt coded for 1080p.

[Kleptic]

Wipeout HD is a great example of upscaling done properly...i'm surprised it isn't used more...

but if anything, it should be called 'downscaling'...as Wipeout HD has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080 @ a locked 60 fps...but can downscale for a few frames to prevent performance issues when things get hectic...at least to my understanding...

and you would NEVER notice it by just playing the game...you can have 12 ships flying apart with no drop in framerate...and you'd never realized it got kicked out of full HD for half a second...

[Crazyglues]

You took the words right out of my mouth, I know it's 720p up-scaled but let's face it 720p is HD and if you can do 720p that alone is pretty impressive, so that should look pretty amazing on my Plasma.. and my Computer Monitor...

While it is hard to tell the difference I find anything at 720p looks amazing on my 50 inch plasma so I'm happy with that.. I'll take it -I don't really need pure 1080p on the plasma for it to show amazing, all my gaming at 720p looks amazing so I'm fine with 720p...

should be really cool, can't wait to check this out - Not sure how they were able to pull this off since Crysis 1 maps were huge, but I guess we shall see..

from the video I saw, it's looking really impressive for a console version.. Remember this is a Game that brought most Graphics cards to their knees on PC back in 2007

-So getting anything close to that game is really impressive ..in my humble opinion.

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[Tyre]

@Crazyglues Best comment on this article! Makes the most sense.

[InNomeDiDio]

Native Resolution is way better than an upscaled image. I'm playing all my Games in real 1080p on my PC and when I see console footage I can see a clear difference. You can make a simply test how weak the image quality of consoles are by looking at the TV from a closer distance. You're about to see that the image gets worse step by step. On PC you have always a sharp picture. Console Technology is good but only works with a lot of tricks to make you believe you have a better image than you actually have.

[TimmyShire]

But... but... my PC!!!

[theonlylolking]

Has more foliage.

[DaTruth]

Now the e-peen contest includes foliage?

[Feckles]

Your PC is dead. Just get onlive.

[NarooN]

LOL yous best be trollin'.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

aah are yo uthe guy who got the onlive tattoo?

[fullmetal297]

Great, let me fire onlive and play... oh wait it doesn't have battlefield 3!

[mttrackmaster38]

Onlive is an enemy to both pc and console gamers. You best begone before we flame the shit out of you.

[Laika]

herp herp derp didly derp my pc derp herp

[fastrez]

What sort of witchcraft is this? Those warlocks at Crytek clearly have unstoppable power.

[fastrez]

Look at those 7 disagrees. Pathetic. I was only having a laugh too.

Lighten up FFS...

[LOLconsoles]

Yeah I call BS, it'll be 720p and upscale to 1080p, not native, consoles can't do games at 1080p, not ones on the level of Crysis anyway. Just look at the god of war collection volume 2, ghost of sparta has trouble keeping a consistent framerate at 1080p, and it's nothing more than a touched up psp game!

[kikizoo]

GT5, and some others ps3 games say hello, but you are right, no so much games @1080 (that said, it not a huge difference on good big screen TV) and 1080 upscale is not 1080.

@panda, 480 ? what are you talking about..

[Pandamobile]

Look at the back of any PS3 or 360 game and in the supported resolution section. Every game has to support 480p.

[Eyesoftheraven]

Gran Tusismo 5 does not render a native 1080p image. The game renders at native 1280x720p with 4x multi-sampling anti-aliasing (MSAA) when your XMB is set to 720p mode, while the resolution shifts to 1280x1080 with 2x quincunx (QAA) when the 1080p mode is engaged.

[reynod]

GT5 also doesnt have a lot happening, racing games in general have very static environments. Also the graphics on GT5 are very average. Which is why its capable of running at 1280*1080, which is nothing impressive imo.

[Eyesoftheraven]

Gran Turismo 5 @ 1280x720 with 4x MSAA:
http://images.eurogamer.net...
Gran Turismo 5 @ 1280x1080 with 2x QAA:
http://images.eurogamer.net...

[Ju]

1080 shot still looks better, IMO. (well, it still is about 400k pixels more which shows).

[faysal]

@pandomobile do u know antying about tech? cz 480p is for good old AV Tv's every AV Tv runs at 480p. if the games doesnt support 480p it wont be able to display any image on the old tv that doesnt support HDMI.

[Pandamobile]

Hurr, that's why we have analog connectors for CRT TVs.

[hilyou]

gow collection volume 2 didnt hav problems with the fram rate. same as ico and shadow of colossus collection. ico looks BEAUTIFUL in 1080p! but shadow of the colossus starts to hav problems with 1080p.

Digitalfoundry tech analysis:

ico and the shadow of the colossus collection
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

gow collection volume 2
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Pandamobile]

Surely upscaled from a 720p render.

Just like it says on the back of pretty much any PS3 or 360 game case, 480p to 1080p. Has nothing to do with what the game engine is actually outputting.

[Eyesoftheraven]

Updated FULL SCREEN + Side-by-side video. Created to aid potential buyers in making a decision on this game. I Edited the footage in both full screen and side-by-side formats. Using the latest Xbox 360 Crysis 1 footage and both Very High and Low graphical settings of the original PC version. Worth watching!

[Bladesfist]

Looks pretty good for console. But man that pc very high. Unfortunatley I can only play that at 20 - 30fps with 6850 x 2.

[Eyesoftheraven]

Really? That's interesting.. my minimum with the duel 5870's in Crossfire maxed out at 1920x1080 with 2XAA is around 25. Average is about 45. Max is 60 because I use Vsync.

With Crysis Warhead my minimum is about 35fps. Maxed out with 4XAA @ 1920x1080

[STONEY4]

@Bladesfist, that makes zero sense on those two 6850s. I get better framerates on a SINGLE GTX 560 Ti, with V-sync at 1920x1080. Does the menu have a somewhat choppy feeling to it too? Because that would prove my theory.

[DaTruth]

The draw distances are the most noticeable thing with far more detail in the PC version, crushing the 360 by a huge margin and just better graphics overall. But the lighting on the 360 version has far more contrast with brighter scenes and darker shadows!

I would have liked to see a night scene with the moon lighting the landscape and the perspective of the moon from the front and behind as the scenes looked really dark on 360 and I wonder if that changes depending on the lighting!

[death2smoochie]

Native and upscaled folks. There is a difference.

[ATi_Elite]

We have a winner!!

I think your the only person here who truly understood that POORLY written article!

bubbles+ well said!!

[Holeran]

It's amazing they got the core game to run on consoles at all. It's not going to look anything like the real Crysis on high settings but at least it will be playable on console.

[daddy77]

@ pandamobile think about it,why all the games have to support 480p?becauuuuuse not everyone has HD tv,lot of people still play on regular tv,not me though im a high tech guy.

[Pandamobile]

What in the hell are you responding to?

[Anti-Fanboyer]

http://i51.tinypic.com/wi6i...

What do these game covers have in common?

I'm starting to think people just buy games and don't know what the fuck is written on the back. And no they're not native 1080p.

[aGameDeveloper]

Helpful comment

[NarooN]

It's just 1280x720 native, I'm surprised it's not sub-HD.

But it's sad that people will see this and think magically it's a true 1920x1080 full framebuffer and somehow still get a consistent 30fps, which isn't even possible on today's consoles by any means with the graphical quality they want to achieve.

Yeah, the game still looks great, but I just wish the damn game boxes told everyone the true native res or something. Very few PS3/360 games do a true 1080p image, and most of the ones that do utilize some clever form of trickery to get that. Some like Tekken 5 DRO are true 1080p (and Tekken even is 60fps all the time), but only because there's not massive strain on the GPU since the visuals aren't up to the standards of modern-day games, or its some arcade game or something.

There's also no way in hell they'd have 1080p with 3D enabled. Even Resistance 3 dropped the res a bit and toned down the post-processing fx and lighting levels to get a decent framerate in 3D mode, same with KZ3.

Also keep in mind the only reason Crysis 1 is even runnable on consoles is due to CE3. CE2 is an unoptimized piece of shit engine, but it'd never run on consoles well anyway. CE3 is nothing more than a slightly updated CE2 that's optimized to run well on consoles.

[jetlian]

does it make? I bet the people going through all the trouble to explain are from the pc crowd lol. Its not 1080p oh heavens no they are lying to console players.

It looks good and thats all that matters. And 1080p upscaled better than 720p native! Now native 1080p would be better than and upscaled one but like l said who cares.

[Mrmagnumman357]

it could still be sub hd, but who knows...

[ATi_Elite]

Wow i didn't know Crysis Console was a download only title..........something is not right!

Sure most PSN/XBLA titles support 720p 1080p but they are very limited in graphical detail. Maybe this could be a new trend or something. maybe Crytek has found a way to compress the hell out of games and still maintain high graphical fidelity.

Oh well just will have to wait and see when an actual copy hits You-tube!! Either way Crysis is way better than C2 so Enjoy!!

Maximum Fun!!

[fullmetal297]

Crysis is being labeled as Games on Demand so game size limit and other limitations has been lifted.

[Jack_DangerousIy]

I'm really looking forward to this release. I love the campaign in Crysis 2 and I've been itching to see what the buzz around the first was all about.

Plus at a comfortable $20, how can you go wrong?

[tee_bag242]

More importantly, what are the frame rates here ? Ill take high frame rate over high res if I have to choose. 30 fps feels cheap and isnt acceptable these days.

[Substance101]

Sorry its 30fps or below for 99% of console games and no you dont have the right to play otherwise unless you game on PC :P

[tee_bag242]

Yeah that sucks. I game on everything. Not just PC though. It annoying people get caught up on 720p 1080p blah blah. Who cares... 720 will do fine but whats the dam frame rate at !!!

[Harelgur]

Get ready for FPS drops

[yewles1]

It upscales to both 720p and 1080p. It's native rez is 1280 x 704 with black borders.

[ATi_Elite]

thanks for the info!

[zero_cool]

Pc defense force on the scene lol!

[banner]

pc gamers have bionic eyes ppl! You know this....

Bunch of geeks...

[Vortex3D]

Coming to marketing, one way to tell if it's upscaled to 1080p is look for usage of the word "native". If it's really native 1080p, the marketing will ensure that the word "native" 1080p clearly on the marketing. If not, it's probably upscaled. Advertising 1080p doesn't mean they are lying, just mean they are not specific enough and it's up consumers to believe what they want.

For most consumers they just want to see the word "1080p" showed on their HDTV to feel better.

This method of decoding what marketing is hiding works on the time by looking for specific key word.

[erivera1994]

does any one know the exact space it will take on the the PS3. also does anyone know if it will have trophies/ achievments. cuz $20 for this isnt all to bad, i jus wish they made it on a disc too

[Jdrm03]

720p native, 1080p upscaled?

[e-p-ayeaH]

20$ is a little to much i hope it gets discount from PS Plus.

[Jack_DangerousIy]

*too*

[potedude]

If this isn't coming out on a disc this will be a HUGE download. At my current internets speed there is no way I will wait hours for this to download.

Australian internets speeds FTW...

[Platinum_k]

with 60fps correct???

[clarkdef]

N4G is full of passionate people. That's all I'm gonna say.

[IHateYouFanboys]

every single 360 game in existence "supports" 1080p, this is hardly news in that regard.

again - theres not a single 360 game that doesnt support 1080p. the 360 has a built-in scaler that allows you to run any game in any of the resolutions that the console supports, unlike a certain other console that stupidly makes you go in and tick/untick resolutions lol. if you have your 360 set to 1080p, every game you play will run in 1080p mode.

[Hozi]

All I care about is how smooth it will run and how good it really looks.

[Bolts]

Modern Warfare 2 also support 1080p, and we all know how that is. I have yet to see a single core game with real 1080p native resolution. Everything is upscaled lameness.

[edhe]

Ah nowgamer, fishing n4g for traffic again.

[SyWolf]

That not entirely true. It's going to support 1080p, but only upscaled. Crytec may be talented, but they're not so talented that they can pull that off with on the consoles.