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Do Early Adopters Deserve a Free 3DS Slidepad?

gamrFeed's Benjamin Yoder weighs the benefits and drawbacks to offering Nintendo 3DS first adopters free slidepad peripherals.

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Soplox4609d ago

Yes! But too bad they wont do it.

Abriael4609d ago

Why? It's not like people that buy the 3DS now are gonna get it for free.

lizard812884609d ago

When the DS lite came out, the People that had a DS phat didn't get anything.

At most, maybe a coupon or something to save a bit of cash.

SilentNegotiator4608d ago (Edited 4608d ago )

Until the inevitable new SKU releases some day, anyway...

bigevilworldwide4608d ago

No but when the redesign comes out, they will be expected to buy another 3ds, bet that one will go back up in price also

Tony P4609d ago

Free just isn't going to happen and we all know it.

But I'd probably try to generate some good will by doing something more to provide what is obviously an indispensable peripheral to buyers.

Sano644609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

No but they should sell it at cost and bundle it in with a must have game so they dont fragment the audience.

Optical_Matrix4609d ago

I payed £200 for a device that costs less than £100 to make. It launched with about 1 good launch game that was a port of a year old game but with worst frame rate and static backgrounds. Took a good 2 months for another good title to come out and to top it off, the E-Shop took them a good couple of months to actually open up.

Now, being someone who's supported Nintendo from the SNES era, I don't expect such a half assed launch of a product that could have easily come out cheaper, with a better design, 6 months later than March. Personally, I don't feel that a bunch of free games I played to death over a decade ago is enough to make up for it. And to be honest, even if I did get the Slide Pad for free, I wouldn't even use it. The things an abomination.

It's not greed at all. It's severe customer disatisfaction. Lucky for Nintendo there's a bunch of games coming out for the 3DS that I want starting with Tales of Abyss in November, but they need to learn that they can never, ever launch a product in such an unprofessional manner ever again.

Godchild10204609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

No one told you to be an early adopter with such a weak launch line up. I waited and was happy to see a price drop because I didn't see any games that was worth the investment at the time. The only game that peaked my interest was Legend of Zelda, but I already had that on my N64.

About the Eshop, Nintendo made it known that the Eshop and Netflix wouldn't be available until the summer or late summer.

Then again, I didn't get the system when it first launched due to not having the money to spend on a product that was no different than my DS. The only game I cared for at launch was SSF, but it wasn't a must buy since I could play that on my home console.

And as you said you won't use it, so it would be greed or a waste of time to ask for something you won't need or use. It's just asking for something just to have it.

We all see this differently; compensation for some and greed for others. Whichever way you go about it no one will be satisfied.

n4gisatroll4609d ago

Ya, you over paid. It's no ones fault but your own. So no, a free slide pad is not deserved.

Ser4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

Purchasing new hardware is ALWAYS a gamble. One should never go out and purchase a system simply because its being made by your favorite company.

The second you drop the cash on a new system, you're rolling the dice. No one is forcing you to gamble, that's all on you.

Jobesy4609d ago

@optical_matrix, being an active member here on n4g you should have known that the 3ds was a piece of crap. People have been saying that, but you fanboys defended nintendo and the 3ds. Look at you now, all butthurt. It's your own damn fault.

UltimateIdiot9114609d ago

As an early adopter, you should have done your research. I was thinking of getting a 3DS aroud release until I found I just must have anywhere within the first 8 month of release. There were also rumors about the circle pad accesory way back near release. $250 was a high price of admission for something that has a lot of uncertainty. It was too big of a gamble for a very unpromising near future.

Back when the PS3 was new and the format war was raging on. I did my research and determine Bluray had a very favorable outcome in victory. So I bought a PS3 and Bluray movies. HDDVD lost and we don't see all those companies compensating and refunding those who sided with HDDVD.

Can you imagine if every tech companies reimburse for failures at every new technology? Who would truly dare to innovate?

When you choose to be an early adopter, play it smart. Do your research and if you still choose to take that chance, you pay the price for being early.

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Tanir4609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

stop being greedy you say godchild?

you over paid 80bucks for a console that wasnt finished and are also forced to buy the 2nd analog to play games......why dont you tell nintendo to stop being greedy

Godchild10204609d ago

No, the early adopters over paid by 80 dollars. If you looked at the Wii and the DS, you would have seen that the 3DS wasn't worth 250 US dollars. Yes, As a consumer, I know that Nintendo was and still is being greedy by pricing the 3DS at 250 from the beginning. But I also knew that none of their systems was ever worth that much and I knew that their console was going to drop in price before I even cared to even buy one.

No one is being forced to buy the second analog stick. I also think Nintendo should have took pointers from other console developers; Apple with the Iphone, it's a great portable device that works well with most games, but people still complained about analog sticks. Sony with the PSP/Vita, The PSP had one analog stick, but people wanted a second one. Sony corrected that with the Vita.

So, Nintendo should have been a little more wise about their console from the get-go and added the second analog stick instead of making an attachment. It would have sold better. IMO

In the end there will always be greedy people, but it's the consumer that needs to wise up and make better judgements with their money. I know I can't tell people what to do with their money, but I can have an opinion and be wise about my money.

Tanir4609d ago

godchild, i see what you mean but in accordance to the being required to buy the 2nd analog, i believe it will be required but alot of games down the life of the 3ds. Games like kingdom hearts and resident evil are already supporting it, and not having it is just going to hinder you, other games like monster hunter it will be a requirement, so i believe its going to be a requirment for most games later on, thats why nintendo will remodel the 3ds with one properly added on

radphil4609d ago

@Godchild

Early adopters got essentially cheated out of money, and you're calling THEM greedy?

Godchild10204609d ago (Edited 4609d ago )

I guess, But it's better than calling them stupid. Most if not all of them are nowhere near stupid.

I just think if you are a gamer and you followed any of Nintendo's products you would have known this was just a console that was riding off the success of their previous consoles. There wasn't much innovation in the console other than the 3D. Most people stated that they don't care for 3D, but some of them still bought the 3DS. As I said before I can't tell you how to spend you money, it's you choice. I can just have an opinion.

Also remember Nintendo didn't have to give 20 free older games due to cutting the price. They did it because they didn't want any backlash to any of their future consoles. I also think this will help consumers think twice before jumping head on into a purchase with other consoles, even the Vita. But I think the Vita is priced right, since Sony has corrected some of the mistakes from their home and portable consoles. Did Nintendo do that? I don't think so.

So in the end, greedy may not be the right word, but I still think they should have did a little more research before making a 250 dollar purchase. And for those that did, did it because they knew what they were getting into and they did that research. As a member said above, it's a risk to be an early adopter, and you have to be able to handle that risk when it doesn't go your way.

In the end Nintendo will not be the last company to mess something up and in the end there will be some compensation for that mess up, but the consumer on the other wend receiving that compensation will never be satisfied.

radphil4608d ago (Edited 4608d ago )

Thing is this kinda of situation can't fully be blamed on a single party, like you said.

One party took the risk of going into it early, another release the system too early in its stages.

On a side note, I didn't mean to, if at all, set that comment up as if it was to be offensive, more so of questioning.

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Machina4609d ago

Depends how integral it's going to be and how many games end up using it. If it just amounts to a simple add-on for a handful of games then no.

bigevilworldwide4608d ago

Im sure within the first couple of months after it comes out right before the redesign comes out, they will expect all games from that point to be mandatory

Pikajew4609d ago

its not gonna be expensive. Gaming is an expensive hobby and if you can afford it you can afford 20$

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10118d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref18d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde18d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197218d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville18d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218317d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos17d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai18d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref18d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan18d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00717d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197218d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197218d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref18d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde18d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197218d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197218d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier18d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto18d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218317d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto17d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman18d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts18d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts17d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic17d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel25d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8824d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing24d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS23d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder23d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218323d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.