Do we really need another FPS?

XCOM, Syndicate, Fallout: CVG bemoans the all-consuming genre...

[gravemaker]

Fallout is not a FPS, its RPG
Xcom is not a true FPS either, its tactical in a way game

idk about Syndicate

[Sunhammer]

Just because Fallout 3 and XCOM do more than your average first person shooter doesn't mean they aren't first person shooters.

Do you consider Deus Ex a FPS? It is one, and Syndicate will be too.

Do you people not realize that companies wouldn't flood the market with shooters as often as they do now if you guys would just stop buying'em?

It's your fault, really.

[jeseth]

Its true.

Its like when people complain about the prices of NFL/MLB tickets and player salaries...they are what they are because people pay for it.

Period. The consumer dictates the direction of an industry over time...look at the Wii. It forced MS and Sony to come up with a casual/motion periferal.

But when you try to tell someone that, they just argue and deny . . . then go back to playing COD, Halo, BF, KZ, etc. Hilarious.

[Baka-akaB]

They aint shooters , they are rpgs .

Just because they put a gun in your hand doesnt make them a shooter like those other titles .

Or do you call Oblivion , KIng's field , Wizardy , eye of the beholder fps because you can throw a spell or an arrow too ?

[Simon_Brezhnev]

I agree with sunhammer. Its funny how people can try to spin saying its not a FPS. First Person Shooter and First Person View are 2 different things. Fallout 3 is a FPS with rpg elements.

[DragonKnight]

@Baka: They are shooters. When the main form of combat is using a gun in the first or third person view, that's a shooter. Just because it has RPG elements does not make it an RPG. If the game is easier for you to play with a gun than without, if the majority of the weapons you can obtain are guns and not melee weapons, then you can bet your ass it's a shooter. If the core gameplay is the use of guns in either a first person view, or a third person view with squad based tactics in it, no amount of exp. leveling, stat boosting, or drawn out conversation systems makes the game an RPG.

[ironwolf777]

Uhh ... No. The Fallout games are not 'shooters' 1st person or 3rd person.
You can finish the entire game without firing a single gun. It's created as an RPG.

[slayorofgods]

the fps trend needs to die already.

[Simon_Brezhnev]

yeah it does. Apparently FPS makes you look bad ass since you use guns. Real men fight with their fist. LOL

[FragGen]

I like the first person perspective for a variety of game types. Having a first person perspective does not immediately make a game "an FPS". IMHO. As long as devs are not forcing the perspective into a game and ruining the game's design/fun factor, who cares?

Also, it's not like there are no more games being made that aren't first person perspective. I'm pretty psyched for the new uncharted and gears of war for example. I'll probably get Space Marine too.

Really, like another poster here said, buy what you like and if enough people do, the industry will make more games like those. It's supply and demand. It's not like they're trying to force stuff on us, they just want to make things that will sell well for their business.

[NYC_Gamer]

Nope,but that genre owns most of the market share.

[iamnsuperman]

I really do not care about having too many FPS as long as there are good ones which there are. So if syndicate is good then it will be ok

[JellyJelly]

Spot on.

[Abriael]

No, we don't. But we're gonna get them anyway, until the market gets saturated and they'll stop making money.

[Son_Lee]

Like iamnsuperman said above me, as long as they are good, go for it. But we really need more platformers and RPGs. Make a platformer RPG and I will cream myself.

[gillri]

if its done by Starbreeze (makers of the awesome Chronicles of Riddick and the not so awesome but still very good The Darkness) and EA gives them creative freedom then yes

as then it will have RPG and adventure/questing elements in it making it more than your run and gun shooting gallery FPS

[Baka-akaB]

The problem isnt the amount of fps , the problem is the amount of military or team based fps .

It's not as if there are enough quake and unreal tournament type of fps , and hybrids .

The only few different fps released this year just sucked or were average , aside from dead island and Portal 2 .

[buckley]

It bums me out. XCOM, Syndicate, and Fallout made excellent games in the isometric perspective.

Ever wonder how many people would be flipping out if the next Diablo was in first-person perspective?

[Baka-akaB]

I would , especially after the horrible game this concept gave birth to : Hellgate london .

[NYC_Gamer]

I would protest outside the blizzard building

[Triggs]

The classic game I know that is not turning into FPS is Jagged Alliance... I hope the new gameplay schemes (semi-realtime) would still be appealing.

[Convas]

What is the problem with it if it is well done? If it is creative and fun, what difference does the perspective make?

When you stop living life in the first person, let me know. I'd like to me a human being with their eyesight linked to an over the shoulder/above the head view of the world.

[DragonKnight]

First person view in video games is NOTHING like first person view in life.

FP view in games is incredibly restricting and narrow with virtually no peripheral vision as opposed to real life. It is NOT the same. It's a weak attempt at being the same.

[Getowned]

i wouldnt mind some thing new! i want a good single player FPS with a huge story kinda like half life (half life 3 would be great) but it's all ways the same old modern warfare type games im tired of shooting at zombies and people...lets shoot big huge bugs kind of like starship troopers or blue gender maybe or dinos! lets see some creativity!! and more focus on single player!!

[jbiz330]

I generally still like the genre. I will say though that if the games are not AAA rated I will not buy it.

[DragonKnight]

AAA is about budget, not quality. Don't get the two confused or you're setting yourself up for disappointment from overhype.

[jbiz330]

not necessarily. and noticed that I said AAA RATED..

[DragonKnight]

AAA is not a rating. The term has been skewed by fanboys and flamebait journalists. Ask anyone in the industry what AAA means and they'll tell you it's about the budget used to make the game. An AAA game could be the worst game in existence in terms of quality because AAA has nothing to do with the quality of the game at all.

[ATi_Elite]

Red Orchestra 2
Battlefield 3
ArmaIII
Team Fortress 2
are all the FPS shooters I need as everything else is crap.

Turning a RTS games into FPS is really stupid cause they are just gonna make a dumbed down COD clone and not put the effort into having the features that made games like Syndicate and XCOM very good.

The first person view is very immersive but Most Devs suck and are just making COD clones. Now there are games like Natural Selection 2 and Nuclear Dawn that are PROPER fps/rts games but they are PC Exclusives and honestly I can not see a dev making a proper fps/rts game for the consoles.

so let this be yet another perfect example of good games being DUMBED down for consoles as publishers realize they can make easy money by selling CRAP to consolers.

[Tigerfist]

I think the Fallout conversion to the first person view was ok. But when we are talking about X-Com... Oh boy it sucks.

[TitanUp]

one thing i like most about fps and tps games is the dialogue and the voice overs in most rpg MOST IMO it sounds like im listening to an anime movie or tv series that i would rather be watching in japanese.

[Sidewinder-]

Some games make a great FPS.

Then there are some in which an FPS is just unecessary. It's the safe, easy mode of game making.

[NarooN]

Don't like FPS, don't buy it then, sitting around crying about it won't do shit. Blame yourselves for buying CoD every year for the over-saturation.

We get too many generic military shooters and not enough classic skill-based arena shooters like Unreal Tournament and Quake. Still won't stop me from going back and playing the classics, but if you don't like it, just don't buy it.

[thespaz]

I'm sick of all first person view games.

By the way, how come I can almost never see my feet in first person view? Why do I slide up ladders with no hands?

I want some more third person games. Uncharted 3 is going to be great!

[Morgue]

I've been wondering that for a LONG time.

[Morgue]

Do we really need another Halo, COD, BF, Crysis, Bioshock series? Do we really need another 3rd person shooter in the likes of Gears, inFAMOUS or a 3rd person action adventure such as Uncharted, Tomb Raider? Or the grand daddy of them all.... Do we really need another Final Fantasy? The people that write and approve these articles are wasting people's time.

[thespaz]

Yes, we need more adventure games like Infamous, Uncharted and Tomb Raider. I want more puzzle solving and exploring in my games.

[Morgue]

I was being sarcastic. Sorry if I don't add silly faces to emphasize that point.

[aliengmr]

X-COM in first person perspective will only work if the strategy part is still there. What will ruin X-COM is its platform. Simply put the majority of console gamers don't like micro-management and complexity. Not to mention the studio making X-COM saying strategy is a dead genre. Perspective is the least of our worries.

But the majority is content with mindless corridor shooters.