Epic: Work On 360 Unreal Won't Start Until 2008

Holding out for the Xbox 360 version of Unreal Tournament III? Don't hold your breath. Epic vice president Mark Rein says that they haven't even started work on it yet -- that'll happen "early next year."

The reason the 360 version is lagging, says Rein, is "the mods"

[Tommie]

A recent preview of I think Gameplayer or something said they played the Xbox 360 version of UTIII and it ran beautifully?

[BrotherSic]

read the same preview, it said the 360 version was coming along nicely

[Omegasyde]

Some other site also stated they they played the 360 build already.

I think it's bullsh*t and that they have been slowly working on the 360 alongside the ps3 version. When you think about it, Even Sony said it would be easier to post a ps3 to a 360 than visa versa. Q2 for 360 users despite it being probaly done in Febuary or March.

Then again, What about Gears of War 2? The typical 360 owner will be excited with GeOW2 than Unreal Tournament 3 because of familiarity.

[marinelife9]

Why would you believe what a site said over the developers themselves?

Also would 360 owners really want a delayed port of a game? Yes or No?

[jiggyjay]

Gives them more time to get Gears 2 out next fall!

[sonarus]

360 version was already far ahead of the ps3 version however i believe epic struck a deal with sony to improve unreal engine 3 and in the process gave them a bit of unreal tournament 3 exclusitivity. The 360 version still exists its not like they will be starting from scratch or porting the ps3 version over they will just continue from where they stopped as soon as sony gives the ok

[The_Engineer]

to what extent MS is poisoning the industry with payoffs to "gaming journalists".

[radzy]

obviously ps3 attach rate of games is very low, and just to look at the recent sales figures of the past ps3 games , mark rein got a bit worried . he is trying to give appeal to the ps3 version and deter the 360 owners from waiting for the 360 version because its all about sales.just look at the sales of cod4 xbox 360 sold over 1,000,000 and the ps3 sold not even 400,000. and cod4 is the best game and highest rated game on the ps3 . 360 owners are prepared to wait a month or two for their version of the game. but mark wants them to buy the ps3 version and then later promote the 360 version . but for now only ps3, ps3 ,ps3. later add a couple of features and promote 360 , 360, 360.
360 version already mentioned coming on nicely and not to far from ps3 version. so mark rein with cod4 and halo3 now , i think we can wait for ut3. good try though

[fusionboxer]

Wired has much more credibility then either of the sites that said they "played" the 360 version. Also it's possible they simply played an early build. Mark Rein is the damn president of the company and he's yet to totally lie to his consumer install base (why would he?).

So like another commenter said, why believe some website over the actual developer?

[Kleptic]

that 360 preview you guys are talking about was questionable at best...there were several paragraphs that were identical to the PS3 hands on with simply 360 replacing PS3..."we walked into the room and there were leather sofas and giant tvs, and an array of ____ hooked up to them"...?...w/e...

imo I think Epic is going to drop UT3 for the 360 to focus on GeOW 2...thats what 360 owners would probably want anyway...the way XBL looks in UGC sharing compared to the PSN is an absolute joke...and if MS doesn't change that for UT3 (which is what Epic was pushing for), the 360 version will never come close in comparison...Rein has said several times if the mod support doesn't reach an acceptable level...it won't happen on the 360...and I would hardly call releasing 2 or 3 official map packs for 800 points on XBL an "acceptable level"...

[Foliage]

The important quote in the wired article was: "early next year." (their quotation marks, not mine) If you guys bothered to read their source you would find the following:

"SO DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE 360 ONE MIGHT BE OUT?

No. We won’t even start working on it until early next year."

I think it was pretty clear.

http://www.riottt.com/user....

[ravinash]

The 360 version of the games its self is probably near done or there are working builds which are probably what the reviewers have been playing.
But the Mods with is the main thing that make this game stand out from the rest and really get the user taking part in the creation process can't be done on Xbox live because MS feel that users shouldn't be able to add content to it.
You gotta love MS for always thinking they know best for you.

(EDIT) - That is unless they decided to hold off developing the 360 version until the legal stuff for the mods is sorted out...so ya never know.

[JsonHenry]

After playing the PC demo of this game... WHO CARES?! The game is boring to me. I know that is just my opinion. But other than a few new vehicles, this is the same game since UT2006.

[WilliamRLBaker]

2 sites and one mag *oxm* have all ready said they've played the 360 playable version.

And mods? when mark rein himself said mods will not appear on 360 version...how is that whats holding the 360 version back? oh I know its not PURE money that sony paid for exclusivity is whats holding it back and we all know it.

And The_I wish I were an engineer: you must not know a thing about the gaming industry at all, dirty tactics have been used since the early nintendo days, Microsoft isn't posioning this industry it was all ready purple in the face with posion before they ever got into it.

P.S: The OXM artcile in july of this years issue mark rein is interviewd and quoted throughout while they played the 360 version of the game, So saying OXM lied means you say Mark rein lied because he was there and he talked about the 360 version of the playable game.

[Whoooop]

This should put a sock in some xbots mouths.... (if true)

Talking about EPIC working on the 360 version a long time ago.

xbots are priceless...

[Twizlex]

It's deceptively worded. He's talking about how they haven't begun working on the whole "mods" thing for 360 because they are still trying to work out with Microsoft how it could be done. The game, sans the mods part, is just as far along as the PS3 version, or it was a month ago. He's saying they have stopped work on the 360 and won't start up again until 2008 when the PS3 version is done.

Mark Rein also said "We are going to release UT3 on Xbox 360 in 2008." So if you believe they haven't started working on it yet, then you must also believe they can miraculously code, test, and package the whole thing in less than a year - and that makes you an idiot.

Oh, how people love to spin...

[jmoneezie]

Epic is trying to hold true to their agreement that the PS3 version will be out first. What will be funny is if they over cook this and by the time the 360 version ships, the 360 fans are over it. And it wind up selling like "Totemball" for XBLA.

That would be priceless watching EPIC sit there with dried up egg on their faces..lol

Edit: Besides, I have plenty of games to keep me busy, hell even if it took to 2009 for UT3 (360) to come out. I really don't care when they release it.

[Twizlex]

Yeah, I feel the same way, jmoneezie. I don't care when or how long it takes for this game to come out because I'm not really interested in it anyways. It's great that for Sony fans that they actually get something to play, but the 360 has enough shooters already. UT3 is nothing special.

[beavis4play]

what sad,bitter,jealous fanboys you are. i have plenty to play on ps3 as well, but have the option of playing UT3 in near future if i want. it's probably a positive for 360 that it's pushed back. there certainly isn't much buzz about games for the system in '08.

[Kleptic]

haha basically the crowned masterpiece of a genre defining franchise is "nothing special"...you're right...don't bother with this...its not special at all...its not the first console game to ever fully support and embrace a PC based mod community either...its just another run of the mill shooter, and the 360 already has several that are better...

...if you don't want it because its not your type of game, so be it...but don't right it off just because its not coming to your system for a significant amount of time...

[Twizlex]

^^^^
You don't seem to be comprehending what I'm saying. I'm only writing the game off because I don't care about it. I said "good for you" if you guys are interested in it and get to play it first. Congratulations. Personally, even if it was a 360 exclusive, I wouldn't be all "fanboyz be jus' jealous" and try and shove it in your face like you people seem to think it's necessary to do. I just plain don't care about the game. Why does that somehow make me an upset fanboy? I don't care about Halo 3 either. There - your whole argument has gone to shít.

And I don't see why you would think UT3 is "the crowned masterpiece of a genre defining franchise". As far as I know, you (and everyone else on this site) never played the game. Save the "crowned masterpiece" for a time when that might be a little more credible. And "genre-defining franchise"? Uh, in what way? Many FPS's existed before any Unreal games, and the Unreal franchise is outsold and outscored by a good number of shooter franchises.

Top selling FPS games:

Halo 2
Goldeneye
Half-Life

Top selling FPS franchises:

Medal of Honor
James Bond games
Halo

Thanks, bye.

[jmoneezie]

"haha basically the crowned masterpiece of a genre defining franchise"

Are you kidding me, I believe that if you are going to talk "crowned masterpiece of the genre", you may want to go back a little further in time to the doom, duke nukem days; and even wolfinstein. These are the titles the defined the genre.

I really don't have a huge desire for UT3 as I did Halo, Orange box, and bioshock. But, trust me, I'm not sore about it not being on the 360 until 08. If I wanted the game that bad I'd just get it for my PS3. Currently, I'm more interested in uncharted for the PS3.

"haha basically the crowned masterpiece of a genre defining franchise" WHATEVER! To each his own I guess.

[The Wood]

your right in the fact that you dont have to care about UT aor any game for that matter so to be fair that alone shouldn't be enough to label you a fboi but coming from a pc background UT is the best fps of its kind. the fastest and most frantic with tons of mods. ut (pre 2004 version) still had more than 3000 people on the servers last time i checked. My problem is that you equated sales to success on this occasion. Imagine me comparing spiderman 3 or pirates of the carrib 3 to city of god or casino. Many pc gamers would have played ut. if you were following some of the other threads on Ut you'd see that there are many on this site who have played it. Its like I hate games like WoW but I respect what it has done for the industry and peoples opinion on it.

[Twizlex]

^^^
I was looking for a site that listed the average scores of the different franchises but I didn't find it (and I probably didn't look hard enough). I went with sales because it does say SOMETHING about the games. As far as the 3,000 or so people still on the Unreal servers, again that's not comparable to the number of people still playing the Battlefield games and Counter-Strike.

[Meus Renaissance]

Summer 2008 release then. This on the 360. KillZone 2 on the PS3. Chooose.

[jcgamer]

sup Meus, I'll take BOTH good sir...

[aba]

Ill take Gears of War 2.

[jcgamer]

I'll take that too...two copies at midnight launch, indeed...

[Shadow Flare]

Oh well xbots. Wait Beyond

[Whoooop]

Yep.. I guess 360 fans will have to join our WAIT BEYOND and This is Waiting campaigns...

[razer]

really comparing the PS3 delays to ONE delay that is on the 360. Come on, I know misery loves company but this is ridiculous.. You both suffer from Last Place Syndrom.

[Whoooop]

It's ok to wait for some games razer... Come sit with us

[Shadow Flare]

.......uh....hmm. (cough)...you're quite the uh...comedian.
My sides are literally hurting i was, uh....crying so much at the POORNESS OF YOUR HUMOUR

Maybe according to you we suffer from 'Last Place Syndrom', whatever the hell that is, but i believe you suffer from Incredibly Crap Humour, Needs To Be Shot It's So Bad syndrome

Razer, there's a button below my avatar called 'ignore'. Please press it. I really don't want a babboon like you replying to my comments

[PS360PCROCKS]

Lmao you two idiots are really parading around this message board. Over what? Unreal Tournament 3? oOo lemme go cry in a corner for that game. Not only will I buy it on my PS3 whenever it's out, but who cares if it comes later to the 360? You think the GOTY candidate's COD4, Bioshock, Mass Effect and Halo 3 is not enough shooters to tide us over? Get a life, every xbox owner would rather Have Gears 2 than UT3.

[unlimited]

half of all 360 install base is waiting beyond since their system is getting fix every few weeks and months..lol,.

[CyberSentinel]

1 less fps on the Xbox 360! OMG how ever will I get my FPS fix?

/sarcasm off

Anyway, the only reason Epic "delayed" the 360 version of UT3 was so that the PS3 version would sell!

The truth is, UT3 for Xbox wasn't delayed, it was "removed" from Halo 3's Onslaught.

@4.8: "count on games that are not even out to sell systems.."
Word bro. Bubble for you.

[lawman1108]

DELAY3DB3YOND,WAITB3YOND, PLAYB3HIND count on games that are not even out to sell systems ect.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

That's what's more important.

[okcomputer]

Not really.. the most important version is the pc one, which will be the superior version.

[power091999]

Normally I would agree with you, as I feel that PC versions are better for FPS.

However being allowed to use Mouse, and Keyboard on the PS3 changes my thoughts about this.

It will run much better on my PS3 than it would on my PC. (without upgrading)

[Blackmoses]

Either someone's lying or he's trying to pull the wool over our eyes!!!

I believe him....

[highps3]

Reviewers no longer have credibility after the Assassins Creed reviews and I CAN PROVE THIS NOW!

Ill trust Mark and get the Ps3 version.. 360 version will get shafted because they have to start on Gears of War 2 as well. So something has to give.

PC then Ps3 then 360 for Unreal Tournament.

[season007]

hmmm...yea in their dream...

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Where are the Previews claiming they played X360 Version?

[kewlkat007]

"work on Gears of War 2"

What else is EPIC working on?..........

[Whoooop]

or does Bloodmask has 2 accounts on the Top Users - Most Active this Month??

[Fighter]

Probably approves his own stories. I think that's lame. If he got banned then he should leave gracefully.

[Vip3r]

So will the 360 version have k&M support?

[PlayStation360]

You can use a keyboard on the 360, but not for gaming purposes.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Epic has a timed exclusive deal with Sony on the console version therefore Epic is not allowed to publically talk about the 360 version and/or a release date for it.

[Shadow Flare]

And they said they won't start on the 360 version until 2008

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I get what you are saying but, in the spirit of my comment I think Epic is doing their best to down play the 360's pending release to encourage PS3 sales. They dont want people "holding off" for a 360 version if there is a possible sale now for a PS3 version. So in terms of any hard set 360 dates...they arent going to give them and that also may be part of their deal with Sony.

However, I would bet the farm that the 360 version is well under way based wholely on the number of preview 360 builds that have been seen and demo'd. Again, I am sure Mark Rein is doing the "PR" dance on this in an effort to keep them in line with any agreement they have and to help promote PS3 game sales.

I am certain the 360 version isnt coming out anytime soon...but I am equally certain that the 360 version is well under way in the dev cycle.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

the only reliable source left is yahoo games?

[fresco]

i'm sure the xbox version is pretty much done, they're just trying to help sony out.

[Lex Luthor]

LMAO, 360 version is already playable. If sony didn't pay to keep this timed exclusive the game would be out already.

Nice try, but try harder.

Hmmmm...... UT3 AND GEARS 2, great times on 360.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

All I care is that the PS3 version is first and comes this year.

I would take the game being released this year over them fixing a few tweaks and releasing early 2008.

That would be worthless, they say they pretty much have the release version ready, then release it already. If the game is comming out for PS3 in December then it better go gold anyday now.

[MaximusPrime_]

he he he. Beers for every PS3 owners.

[Fanboys Beware]

More like a 12-pack of beer for all the PS3 owners. So you can drown away your sorrows after looking at yesterdays US sales figures.

[CyberSentinel]

For all RayStation 3 owners.

Lemmings don't play games, they care more about a movie format.

Blind Lemmings, You Are NOT Real Gamers.

[jASSon 360]

yeah hahahahahah lol. you PS3 owners will never get it. Sales matter, just as my good friend here pointed out. thats all this is about. You may get UT3 with free UGC with numerous different means of distribution. but it doesn't look as good as gears becuase teh cellcan only do movies.

When are you PS3 fans going to realize that us 360 fans are all the same. If we don't get it, its because we really didn't want it anyway. But if it is only available to us, its the greatest game ever made. We would really care about UT3 if it was coming to our beloved system any time soon, but since it isn't we think it sucks. Why would any of us 360 owners want free user generated content and mod support from the army of UT fans still active? We love paying out the ass for stuff like that. we don't mind. we are not very intelligent people.

[Laexerias]

Okay dude... you wanna tell me that a game just is fun if it sells well? Go and dont f*ck around with ur sh*t okay?
A Console is fun if it brings fun not if it makes some good sales u stupid as*hole, just shut up and go to mama.

[BIoodmask]

that they were working on the 360 version along side the PC version. Since the architectures are so similar. It wouldn't make financial sense to do it any other way.

What most likely happened is that the 360 build is also finished or "almost" finished and Epic is trying to work something out with Microsoft so that people can use some sort of user created content on Xbox LIVE.

Epic has stated many times that they have a great relationship with Microsoft....and they have also blatantly admitted that Gears of War would not have been such a big success if Microsoft didn't push it with their advertising campaign.

@Cheech below,
My other account is banned so I can't log in on it. Before it got banned I was a top contributor. That is why there are 2 Bloodmasks on the stats page. Good enough explanation for you. I have already PMd Dusty and let him know about my new account. So no, I can't approve my own stories....and why would I want to.

[Fighter]

why you have two accounts with the same name and avatar but with different stats. Do you approve your own stories?

[Bleucrunch]

This game will be grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat on the PS3......I dont care about an xbox version, PS3 is where it is, they can have gears of war, we have KillZone.

[celticlonewolf]

I have read a handful of preveiws that talked about the 360 version of ut. Ofcourse things can always be put out of context meaning they are working on the ps3 version and are not putting any more work towards the 360 version until that is done and set you.

[remix]

considering ps3 has mods and mouse and keyboard support.

[supaet]

epic and mark:

STOP LYING

sony PAID YOU for time exclusivity.

look, if you really cares about the 360 community on ut3, you can do the way of the halo3

[Shadow Flare]

what....make Unreal Tournament III play in 640p?

[Lex Luthor]

I'd rather play the game in 640p rather than 10fps and crappy textures.

[duarteq]

"epic and mark:
STOP LYING
sony PAID YOU for time exclusivity"
If SONY , in fact, paid to EPIC they did a hell of a job cause it will be a really great game with mouse and keyboard support. I really don't care about this game, but if MICROBOX paid to get other exclusives and time exclusives like for instance the HD-DVD support ( now using your words ), coff coff, i think they are lying... Why can't Sony do the same ? is it really different from Microsoft ? It's a market, the one who have better opportunities and money will win. We are just the peons

[wangdiddy82]

has always been saying the problem with brining UT3 to the 360 is xbox live doesnt support mods and thats like ut3 not having guns.. Thats a quote from Mark himself..

[lilgringo]

Holy crap did you guys even read the article? The 360 version will be delayed because Epic want to support mods, while MS want to earn more cash. It has nothing to do with how far they've come in the development

[miked808]

I am so sick of these EPIC jerks. They will never get another penny out of me.

[Shadow Flare]

That's great Mike. Save those pennies and buy a ps3! And by the time you've saved enough, UTIII will be out for ps3

or...

you could sit in your basement, not buying Epic merchandise, whilst scratching 'screw epic' all over your basement walls, it's really your choice mike

[ravinash]

Don't you think your taking the protest a little too far?

[jazzmanb]

its all bs,as the 360 version is done and has been for awile..it was done months ago,but it wont come out till 6 months after the ps3 version is out...its smaet for mark to say the 360 version wont be out soon,because hell get more sales on the ps3 that way....im smart enough to know bs when i smell it..lets remember that they were working on this game on the 360 before the ps3 version,and people were playing it on the 360 at e306...the mods well be an issue over the protected and very safe xbox live..

[razer]

had a huge cover issue of UT3 and they were playing the 360 version and said it looked great. If they plan on delaying the game that much then I would say forget it, I sure as hell ain't gonna buy some old news game.

[DaEnforcer]

xbots

[Fanboys Beware]

PS3 never got in the game. So if this is bad news for the 360 it's worse for Epic. Because nobody buys PS3 consoles or games. Do we really need to take a stroll down memory lane and look at worldwide sales again???

[jASSon 360]

haha yeah 29.1

lol. the PS3 is over. the ps3 will never sell any more consoles at ALL. we 360 owners knew it from the start. I have a background in economics, and just like every other 360 fanboy, I know the industry better than the pros. the PS3 will never have a chance at selling significant units because we said so. thats why.

and what a better time to bring up how the PS3 is done when a game like UT3 is only coming to the PS3 for the most part. My 360 won't see any of the UGC, except for what MS spoon feeds me through market place. So now I am going to talk about how the PS3 sucks and so does its fans. just like you said earlier fanboys beware. look at last weeks sales of the PS3. its on track to only sell 235,000 units this month. thats nothing. its all over now, despite only being a year into this console race. Sony has know idea what they are doing. I think they lied about selling over 250 million home consoles so far. they obviously suck and have no clue how to give people what they want. My Xbox brand just might break 50 million sales total (between teh regular xbox and 360 overall sales) this generation. obviously I am extremely smart by claiming Sony to no longer have a chance.

[rofldings]

360 ftw: how old are you?

And you're saying 50 million between xbox and 360?

Then let's count PS2 and PS3 ... 130~million.

gtfo.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Havn't you been saying that all year, while enjoying 3rd?

[zonetrooper5]

Actually some time ago, there was an article about the mods sitution on the 360. MS has agreed to let mods on the console as long as it goes through the Publisher's server to make sure its good or something like that.

I think Epic want total modding between console to PC and vice versa.

[wil4hire]

Delaybox360.

[Fanboys Beware]

Crapstation3. Delaystation3. PS3DO. Downgradestation3. Waitstation3. Phony BS3. I'm sure I missed a few. My point is your an idiot and the fact people agreed with you means your have even stupider friends on this site.

[HarryEtTubMan]

HOOOLLLLYYYY SHHIIITTTTT ITTTTT ITTTTT!!!!

epic failure.

[Fanboys Beware]

HOLY SH!T... You only have 1 bubble. Congratulations. Your right about the Epic failure. Epic's game sales on the PS3 will fail like every other PS3 game.

[jASSon 360]

holy crap fanboys beware. you have said so much anti ps3 in this article (which is totally awesome because the PS3 should never get good news). I have a boner. j/k LOL, but seriously. I might.

[green]

I dont really care if this game comes out on 360 or not.Its obvious that Sony paid for timed exclusivity but it still will come out on the 360 cause thats were they will earn more profit

[SKUD]

Once they are done with the PS3 version of UT and handled any bugs that might come up production for the X360 version will completely begin. Either ways the game will be released. As far as Gears 2 goes. I really doubt you will see it next year or even the year after that. This will most likely be one of the last games for the system before the next generation XBOX comes out. Its still way to early for it.

[power of Green]

The way the wording is it seems like its being used to make something out of nothing I doubt many people have lied about this game for the 360(mark was talking about something else).

[Foliage]

Maybe you should read the source provided by wired.

"SO DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE 360 ONE MIGHT BE OUT?

No. We won’t even start working on it until early next year."

I think it was pretty clear.

http://www.riottt.com/user....

[sleepbox]

Hate to say it and I know I will get a zillion disagrees but the Unreal series has sucked since after the original UT.

UT3 looks so insanely FAKE due to all the rediculous lighting tricks and detail yet, the gameplay is still the same as it was with UT1. BORING.

Dumb weapons, lame character design, nothing new about this title.

The UT series has always been the worst of all multiplayer FPS series.

[Maldread]

...is that Sony has payed Epic for a timed exclusive on PS3, and therefore Epic won`t talk about so much about it now. It`s about keeping the PS3 sales up as Dlacy13g said above me.

That they disagree with Microsoft on the whole mod thing is true, and could be one of the reasons it`s "delayed" for the 360, i see the first reason more important. And with Gears running on 360 last year, it`s got nothing to do with the UT3 engine not being capable on running on the platform, that`s for sure. I`m sure the versions is at pretty similar states of progression anyway

With that said, it`s good for PS3 owners to get a game first, with mouse and keyboard support, and (if Microsoft dosn`t alter it`s mod vision) with more maps and possibilities. Hope more companies keep the PS3 as the "first" console though, so that we can be done with crappy ports EA style.

[DiLeCtioN]

so the game might come out late 2008 or early 2009? if i were u guys ill buy something else its not hard to schange ur mind

[Bladestar]

I wonder what they will do to convince xbox 360 owners to buy their game... are they giving PS3 owner enough time to forget about the game maybe too busy (playing Metal Gear) to care about all the extra features that the xbox 360 version is going to have?

There is no freaken way they would sit on their hands until microsoft give them the go for letting them do wherever they want with mods... what if microsoft says, "Never"... what? they spent all the money making the game for nothing?

People already know how the whole PS3 mods will work... one have to buy the PC version if interested on making mods... make them on the PC.. then export it to the PS3.. and then distribute it from there...
one have to own 2 copies of the same game to do this... there is no way in hell I would do that. Also, are people complaining about COD4 not having mods?

This is one of those games... where I wish it would stay exclusive on the PS3... and one of those games that by the time is released on the xbox 360 no one will care about. so, why bother bringing it to the xbox 360.

[Lumbo]

As usual you completely miss the point in the mod support, but thats just like you are ...

The ease for "PC" coders to add a whole new target audience to their mod works by simply clicking "export to ps3" after they pressed "package for PC" for the PC version will lead to many many mods being available for PC AND Ps3. The UT series was always mostly about the mods, not the original game.

Thats the reason why Epic wants to see the same support on the Xbox360, cause they do not want to provide the Xbox360 fans with a lesser version of UT3 then the other platforms.

UT-mods area cheap entry point into game programming. And in this case game programming for a console, too. Thats the closest thing to homebrew that is legally possible. (ignoring the fact that there is no illegal homebrew for the PS3 at the moment cause the console is still unhacked)

I do hope MS manages to jump over their own shadow and allow UT-mods on the Xbox. And then Epic can finish the Xbox360 version of UT3 that is most likely already far into completion. But will still need optimizing and finetuning. And thats what Epic will "start" in 2008. Not the whole game, thats ridicules as they already had working builds of it for previewing. But preview builds are not final builds.

[Kuest]

I got a bunch of other games to play. So, when UT3 comes out- I'll buy it and add it to my growing collection of AAA games. But alas...it seems PS3 fans will get to enjoy it earlier. What to say?

Congratulations! Just be sure to buy the game (and play it, of course).

either way, 2007/2008 looks to be a strong crop.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I'm sorry but if you idiots think that the 360 version is not under development you're crazy, it's been stated before that it was, and why the hell would Epic make a PC and PS3 version only to go back later and make the 360 version? It's make no financial sense whatsoever, it's under development but will ship later for the 360 because of the mods issue.

""That's part of the reason we announced we were shipping the game on PC and PS3 this Fall, but we don't have a date for the Xbox 360 version - it'll be some time after the new year. Part of that is because we haven't been able to figure out just how we're going to do the mods. And Microsoft's got a very busy Christmas schedule... We just couldn't get enough attention from them to solve that problem," Rein told CVG."

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

I know you PS3 idiots will disagree with cold hard facts, but the truth will set you free.

[fredy]

PAY for TIMED EXCLUSIVITY....

we all know EPIC has worked on GEARS for the 360 and know the console inside out since it is familiar with a PC, then if the PC version is DONE, it's a no-brainer how easy and short it will be to finish the Xbox 360 version.

On another note PS3 might not even get the game on time..

[SimmoUK]

everyone chill out, the table's have turned for once PS3 owners get UT3 and Haze first anyone with a braincell could tell you it was only a matter of time and all that is happening is people are re-paying grief they have been getting for the same situation...

peace...

[arika]

it's ok xbox 360 can have our left overs. well, that is six months after its release on ps3 and by that time killzone 2 and mgs4 would have arrived.
ut3 will be old news when those two great games arrive. all i can say is xbots you got owned again...

[aba]

I'll take my Gears of War 2. Which will sell more than UT3 and Killzone 2 combined.

[sleepbox]

Also, do any of you really believe that UT3 is going to move PS3 hardware units? Not very bloody likely.

Just like Unreal Championship moved SOO many Xboxs and was such a platinum seller

/sarcasm.

[Slayer OP]

If they havent even started then that means it might not even be availible ton xbox until fall 2008.

[Dublin_Chewah]

I am a 360 owner and its just not as suited tot he MS console as it is the PS3. The fact that it will come later than the PS3 kills it for me. It really is a polished upgrade of Quake 3 and that kind of gameplay is surely better of Halo 3. Get working on Gears two, gimme Ninja Gaiden and leave this game to the PC community and of course the PS3 community. Even if they say how great it is and that the xboxbots cannot do it good luck to them. I have no interest in shelling out for such a game that has nothing new in it except the graphics. An online version of Bioshock, now that I would like. Peace to all, imagine a ps3/xbox/wii hybrid.... that would either be the Angelina Jolie of the gaming world or the Rosie O'Donnell! The curse of a thousand leprechauns on all console flamers!

[AnalFace]

JUMP IN AND WAIT. i guess?

[Fanboys Beware]

So I should "Jump in" your moms bed and "Wait"? Whats your bed time little kid I dont want your virgin ears being violated by the pleasure your mom will be screaming later tonight? How do you like that for immaturity???

[Sevir04]

Sony struck a deal to optimize the the engine and have the game come out on PS3 first first, with that lump some of cash they were able to prioritize them self and focus and allocate all their resources on the PS3 and the PC version. all this talk about the 360 version coming out in early 08 is laughable at best. because the work wont continue till after the postmortems of the PS3 and the PC is out which normally takes a month to 2 months after a title on any platform is finished.there for all this talk about GEARS 2 dropping that fall of 08 is looking less and less likely because i'm sure they'll have UT3 for 360 earliest at late summer's end right in time for a fall release. if anything gears 2 isn't due till 09 and you can go to the bank with that.

gears is coming in 09 UT3 for 360 will hit in 2008, late 2008.

[Odion]

I am not buying the game anymore so this really doesn't effect me, the moment i found out it was coming out in 08 i was like, well not buying that.

It only hurts Epic cause they could have sold more copies on the 360 then the PC and PS3 version combinded

[tony]

unreal tournament 3 can come tomorrow on the 360, and i still won't buy it.

[BLACKJACK VII]

"Holding out for the Xbox 360 version of Unreal Tournament III? Don't hold your breath."

LOL, don't worry, we won't. Plenty of FPS's to go around. Never really cared for any of the UT installments, & none of them were very successful. With Halo 3 & COD4, I really don't need any other fps's. Thanks, but no thanks. Get back to work on Gears 2 EPIC, it is obviously the best game you have ever made.

[mistertwoturbo]

if UT3 was a 360 exclusive. you guys would be praising it left and right saying how the "PS3 can never do graphics like Gears cause Cliffy B says so. How do I know? After I sucked him off last night, he told me the PS3 cant do graphics like gears of war, so i'm going to believe him."

"The graphics bar has been raised beyond Gears of War" -Mark Rein

[TheXgamerLive]

Lets wait until we see an actual question/answer from EPIC themselves on this.

You know, sony fanboys doing trying to do damage and all.

[sleepbox]

I guess the Xbots should let the Sony fans get away with this one and brag a bit...afterall, how many times have the tables been turned and Xbots rubbed it in the face of Sony fans when a game came out on 360 first and PS3 months down the road?

Answer? TOO MANY!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

360 owners are being screwed by Epic, we payed for this game to be made by buying Gears of War. http://kotaku.com/gaming/no... Mass Effect is the last game I'll be buying useing this engine. The success of Gears of War pays for this because Gears is thier biggest selling title to date. And for this game to be dalayed while 360 fans pay the bills is well kinda sh!ty of them. Call it what you like, try and spin it how you like but when you watch the trailer for UT3 it says "brought to you by the makers of Gears of War" not the other way around. It's like giving some anti drug charity your money only for them to go out and buy drugs with it. This is the reason I will not buy this game not because it's on the PS3, if that were the case then I wouldn't have bought COD4, AC, GRAW2 or any other multiplatform game. For Epic to do what they did to the people who made then rich is well...f**k em they won't get my dollar again

[Lumbo]

Work on UT3 has started BEFORE Gears of war was made. If you stop looking through your fanboy shades for a splittsecond you would see what utterly bullcrap you write.

Epic evolved their engine with every game they created with it. That has been true for the past, BEFORE gears of war, and will be true AFTER gears of war2.

UT3 is just the natural child of UT(1999), UT2003(the halfwaydone version no one liked) and UT2004. Epic does not get rich by selling the UT GAMES, they make the money by selling the ENGINE to other companies.
Hence they need showpieces for the engine. For the Xbox360 developers that showpiece was Gears of War. For the PC and PS3 it will be UT3 and a little bit later for the Xbox360, too.

Stop being so uptight because ONE freaking game will come a tiny amount later to your console of choice. IF it comes WITH full mod support it will be all the better for you in the end.

[mistertwoturbo]

well, you do know it probably won't even take that long to complete. they already have they're engine up perfectly running since gears of war. if anything, UT3 on the 360 will probably come out the 2nd quarter of '08. So i'm assuming april-ish?

[The Only Truth]

Does the 360 really need another FPS ?

Since we already got a massive amount of high quality shooter (COD 4, Halo 3, Half LIfe 2, etc...), there's no need for a 234958 one.
So Epic, drop it and work on something new, different & innovative. But if you really have to release another shooter for the 360, then make it Gears Of War 2 in 2008 (end of) !

[Hydrollex]

SORRY XBOX 360 OWNERS. Don't be mad, you'll get better games on Xbox 720.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

We already have better games than you, LOL come talk sh!t when you actualy get a AAA game or at least one game that scores over a 9.0.

[jASSon 360]

hahh yeah dude. lolol. no game on the ps3'tarded has been reviewed higher than a 9.0. not one. from any reviewer. just like my fellow fanboy above me said.

we sure told them didn't we dude? I am another idiot with a 360. JUST LIKE YOU^^^^^^^lets make more stuff up. uh. The PS3 can't play GAMES LOL, only movies. I bet they haven't heard that one yet either.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Did I hurt your oh so sensitive feelings? need a tissue? http://www.kleenex.com Ok I'll bite what AAA does the PS3 have? please educate me I would like to know. LOL With 30fps games jaggies and crap ports please show me a game on the PS3 that actualy playes better than one of it's movies. "Enquiring Minds" want to know. So I'm ready give me your best shot or did you just blow your load in that post? So come on 360ftw hit me with all you got, I'm waiting. This should be fun.

Waiting, waiting and waiting some more (like a PS3 fan)

[The Wood]

Jason 360 and hydro can play together. nothing you say will EVER be considered serious by many on this site...... just more adolescent trollodites.

play nice now

[FPS nut]

You sure showed them by jumping down to their "so called level" and leaving that special comment. You remind me of fake breast or that word, what is it again? oh yeah hypocrite.

[Spartan 117]

Im buying this on my PS3 cuz it will be the better version.

[honorable1]

I honestly don't know much about this website or it's credibility. I just am finding this a little hard to believe. Something doesn't feel right to me. Of course this could all be perfectly true and everything but still this just doesn't feel right. Reading that very short story I am left with a few questions. When did he say this, why did he say this? Also who was he doing an interview with and what else was covered?

I don't know this all could be completely legit but for some odd reason my Spidey sense just won't stop tingling . . . .

[Wii60_FTW]

Hahahahaha. We all know the real reason is because they've been secretly working on Gears 2 for the past year, which will utterly destroy UT3 up and down. They don't want both games hitting 360 at the same time. Duh. It's business.

[onenut]

there are some many great games out there right now i don't mind waiting, so we'll have ut3 and gears 2 in 2008
jump in!

[Ahhhh]

@Whoooop - The picture that is your avatar.. that really is you, isnt it?

[tplarkin7]

Way back when Gears was released for 360, Cliffy-B said that the 360 version was running great. It was a video interview with him & Mark.

[poopface1]

So they dont have to compete with as many high proofile FPS, not to mention the other awsome games coming out now. This game will do better early next year anyway becouse there will actually be people who have time/money for it when it does arrive.

[Danny VII]

all i know is that i want it now

[Devr]

I always thought the 360 hands-on story was probably fake. I mean, it was posted on a small gaming site and much bigger sites like IGN, Gamespot and 1UP haven't reported anything.

[MRMagoo123]

Sooooooo now when theres a delay on the xbox all the xbots cry and moan but when theres one on the ps3 we shouldnt complain makes perfect sence and i dont care if this is the first delay cos there has always got to be a first before theres a second i guess ill be enjoying another great game on my ps3.And whats with the ppl saying there lying maybe just maybe perhaps the crappy 360 sites that said they had played it had actually lied omg a 360 mag lying thats odd or maybe they played the ps3 version and loved it but couldnt bare telling anyone it was the ps3 version

[JokerSGS]

Main reason for UT3 on the PS3 first is simply because of being able to use mods for the game. Most PC multiplayer games are well of with mods and I doubt Epic would want to really push a game that doesn't promote this.

[AngryTypingGuy]

I bet that this will end up a debunked rumor in a few days. But even if not, oh well, as long as we get it eventually, with or without mods. I've never play and U.T. games. I would rather see them focus on G.O.W. 2, which will eventually overshadow this game anyway.

[OnTheFence]

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[ROCCOZILLA]

what a year PS3 is having.come back killer!

[MythSquare]

This spring when the game didn't being timed eclusive for PS3 all xbots cried about another the best game for the best console on earth and about how this PS3 cr*p would eat the dust again. Well, look at now what we do see is "we don't need this ***** and this ****** game, let it being PS3 exclusive".

[Lumbo]

Imho the whole interview was kinda misunderstood by the blatant fantards regardless of the gang they belong to ...

Mark said, and ill quote him fully: "So our job, when we finish the PS3 version, and we’ve taken a little break, is to sit down with Microsoft and to figure out how we can do Mods on their system."

and following THAT point he stated: "No. We won’t even start working on it until early next year."

"it" being "sit down with Microsoft to figure out how to allow mods"

So instead of burning Epic at the stake for not having started on UT3-360 you should have read the interview, and behold, the only thing left doing is the mod support and getting Microsoft to loosen up some on their stranglehold on allowed content. The game is quite far developed except for the mod part, and i do not expect them to need more than a couple of month to finetune and optimize it. So maybe they manage a late spring/early Summer release in case they manage to strike a deal regarding the mods with MS shortly after going into talks in early spring.

Equally ridicules are statements that "UT3 for 360 has not even started development, nananananaaaana" as Epic showed some rather advanced builds of it already. And you can't show of stuff that is not existing ...

As a huge fan of the whole Unreal Series and after participating in mod development for the existing UT flavors (some more successful, some less) i can only hope for UT to be on as many platforms as possible to allow for a bigger target crowd for modders all around.

[Madbrain]

So many pathetic excuses from poor Xbot bastards...!

[Wii60_FTW]

Oh yeah, cuz Gears 2 WON'T utterly destroy UT3? Dumbass. OF COURSE IT WILL. Gears f*cking rapes UT up and down. period. and they've been working on it for a year. THAT'S their next 360 game to hit. they don't want to release UT3 with gears cuz that's just dumb business. and they didn't want to release it this year because there are too many amazing 360 titles which own UT3 up and down as it is. get f*cking raped, stupid fanboy. ;)

[WilliamRLBaker]

mark is sure a liar:) Not only did OXM in july of this year say they played a playable build of ut3 on the 360, 2 other sites on the web have said so as well.

And the mod has nothing to do with them holding back, Pure money exclusivity deals with sony is whats holding it back.

Mark has said Mods will not appear on the 360 version so....how is that whats holding it back?

[Lumbo]

Funny how you try to mix up his words to get your agenda fulfilled.

He stated multiple times in interviews that EpicGames will try to get the mod support into the 360 version by talking with Microsoft after X-Mas. Epic is VERY focused on the mod support, for them the mod support always defined the success of the whole UT series. Not doing everything possible to get that part into every version would be strange regarding Epics past.

And regarding your snippet as of the x360 version being all finished and just stored untill some random time, "Playable" is not "finished".
They don't finish it until they have spoken to Microsoft and maybe managed to get their ok on ut-mods. If they finished the game scrapping the mod part and then in Jan/Feb Microsoft suddenly said "ok, we will allow free mods but for ut3 only, and you need to check them for stuff"
then they would have to reopen their final code and re-include the whole mod stuff again and go through an additional QA series for no good reason.

read the original interview and not the misspresented snippet the source above gave you. The alternative source link is your friend.
http://www.riottt.com/user....

[kennyfisterbotm]

Come on people, does it really matter when unreal 3 comes out for the xbox anyway? No!!!!!!

The xbox has gears of war, assasins creed, cod 4, cod 2, and my lord just about every other game out their. Let the ps3 have it's glory for a little while with unreal 3 (of which i will be purchasing the game for my ps3) because i'm sick of having a 600 dollar machine that all i do to it is give it it's quarterly updates when their available. I want to actually play the thing. Later peeps!!!!!!!!!!!

[Silver Bull3t]

"Epic vice president Mark Rein says that they haven't even started work on it yet"

No he doesn't.

Read the "article".

[nobizlikesnowbiz]

I've got an old OXM issue right here that says otherwise.

[sonyfanonly]

i thought xbots only liked HALO whats up with them wanting UT 3 oh wait they are tired of master chief already or is it because their 360 has RROD and it will take that long before they get another 360 lol

[ben806]

sooo, UT3 is coming to the 360? dont mind waiting a while for it long as its on its way.

[DZNetworks]

We have Halo 3.

[IPlayGames]

To mod do u have to own the PC ver.?

and if u do if your Comp. is not strong enough to run the game can u still use to mod kit?

If you dont then will the kit cost something and what store/website would i have to goto to buy it?