Why Deus Ex Human Revolution Is Rubbish

Plughead.net give five ways Deus Ex 3 is utter crap... or not.

[Kran]

1. "Why is there only one (or perhaps two) apartment in an entire block?"

Sorry, what? Maybe the reason you cant access other apartment is because there no need to?!

2. "There’s no stacking of small items in the inventory."

The guns are smaller than you think, which is why he is able to hide them. Or it could be like some games; you know where you can "hide your helmet" even though it has great stats but you hate the look of it. And Items do stack. And I love a little bit of realism in games.

3. "Sprinting"

As you said, he can be upgraded. To be fair, he has been augmented, and for all you know, augmentation can be very heavy.

4. "Pre-order exclusives just get worse and worse, don’t they?"

Uh... how about "dropping" the items?

5. "The tranquiliser gun"

They're wearing freaking armor. Of course its going to take a little while. In the wild, it takes a good 10+ minutes to knock out an animal. Be glad this tranq takes around 10 seconds.

All your reasons are just bad.

[QuodEratDemonstrandm]

In response to your response to #5.

You'd think in this futuristic setting some multibillion dollar multinational pharmaceutical company would have developed a faster acting anaesthetic, wouldn't you? Of curse if you shoot the guard in the foot it'll still take awhile to work.

Quick tip for the author. Aim for the carotid. It'll carry the anaesthetic straight to the brain.

[Blacktric]

I'm sorry but how the heck is that possible? Speed of the bloodstream is same most of the time so it'll always take a while for a person to faint after get shot in certain areas. And you can always put them down instantly by a headshot while using tranq gun.

[ATi_Elite]

Actually they do have fast acting anesthetic! they put some in your I.V. and tell you to count backwards from 10.

by the time you get to 6 your slurring words and by 3 your snoring! So 10 seconds in the game is right on!!

The only instant acting knock out medicine is a brick to the head!

[Theonetheonly]

Well I love the game. Games with this Depth with this level of fidelity are rare these days with all the cookie cutter stuff going around.

The only thing I do not like about this game are the

FRAKING ANNOYING AS HELL LOADING TIMES.

If metro 2033 can load in less than 4 seconds (literally while the dude is just beginning to read the paragraphs it says press a to start.)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boa...
this game should be a piece of cake but it isnt, it takes upwards of a minute and a half to 2 sometimes. Absolutely Rediculous.

Aside from that one thing I love it.

[juggulator]

The only thig i don't like about the game is the shooting controls and the fact that you can't change them. After all it is an FPS.

[Kushan]

Shoot them in the head with the tranq rifle and it knocks them out almost instantly. Never had a problem with it so far (of course, it's still better to get up close and take them down).

[Sarcasm]

This just reminds me of one of those articles that tries to go against the grain.

It's a good game damn it, but nooooo there's always someone out there finding incredibly trivial things to complain about.

[Pro_TactX]

The tranquilizer gun takes effect instantly if you score a headshot.

I actually prefer the delay for limb and body shots. I can shoot one enemy in the leg, reload, and shoot the second enemy in the head. Both fall at the same time so neither sees the other on the ground.

[OdinFallen]

I agree with you there, the game has an assortment of tactical choices, you sir, do I what I do.

[SnotyTheRocket]

I do that too, I also got the upgrade you can buy for the tranq gun, it tells you where to shoot on the body for what effect, neck for fast, body for slow.

[JsonHenry]

There are a lot more than one or two apartments and apartment buildings per block (in Detroit anyway).

You can stack some small items.

Sprinting is kinda lame even when upgraded.

The tranq gun is insta-knock out if you hit them in the neck or head.

[BlackSpartan187]

I agree with sprinting though. I can sprint for 60 seconds in real life. But in the game, six seconds with augmentations,are your serious. But other than that, the game is awesome.

[grailly]

number 3 is my only problem with the game, you don't feel augmented... sprinting is one thing but, without the no-fall-damage-upgrade you die by jumping from the first floor... also needing energy to take out an opponent from behind is kinda lame, I'de guess any trained law enforcer could take someone out by surprise.

[thesummerofgeorge]

I think the point of the energy being used to knock peeps out is less about realism and more to prevent you from just waiting behind a door and insta-knocking out every guard from behind until they're all gone. It just forces you to vary your strategy.

[pipipi]

bubbles 4 u my mate

[Theonetheonly]

good Game

[SITH]

Shoot people in the head with a tranquilizer and it renders them unconscious almost instantly.

[joab777]

Its funny that ppl seriously refute these issues. I think u deserve the hits simply because its hilarious. Some reasons r because its too realistic and some because it isn't. But, the point is made. Its a great game and difficult to find issues. My number 1: a few glitches that forced me to replay a few hours.

[Tzuno]

No game is perfect and those who scored 10 are very good but not perfect. The game is ok and is fun to play.

[showtimefolks]

Very very long loading times frustrating how when you due it still takes firever to load the last check point. Shooting feels weak this us by no means a shooter enemies have perfect aim it's very bad AI. Boss battles are frustrating and no one can deny that they are boring,dull and frustrating. So while the game is good it's in no way a 9/10 kind of game. Also graphics are dated too. Disagree all you want if you played the game everything I said is a fact

[fluffydelusions]

This was my fav game this year so far. This, Portal 2, and inFamous 2 are my top 3 thus far

[joydestroy]

def my fav game out this year so far

[Perjoss]

I'm rating this as one of the best game environments of all time, very close behind GTA IV's Liberty City and Red Dead's wild west setting. OK the cities in Deus Ex HR do have loading screens but the environment is still very big, intricate and just simply amazing and bursting with atmosphere.

[lastdual]

It's my top game so far this year as well. Heck, I'd put it up there with the best games this gen.

As much as I enjoyed games like Portal 2 and Dead Space 2, Deus Ex has just pulled me into its world on a whole other level. Don't know if it will beat out Skyrim for my personal GOTY, but it's pretty fantastic.

[whydoyouask]

i love when people give their top game lists; they start off with a couple of truly great games and end with one that should never be spoken within same sentence as the previous ones.

[hardandsloppy]

@whydoyouask

If you are refering to infamous 2, you need to get your head out of your ass. If you are talking about portal 2, you need to get your head out of your ass.

[MysticStrummer]

I love when people shoot down someone else's opinion, and then state their own opinion as fact. OT - DE:HR is awesome. One of my favorite games this generation.

[Ravens20]

hey, not our fault that u have no good exclusives to play on your shitbox LMAO.

[suicidalblues]

@Ravens

And that's exactly why he made that comment. Seems like an inferiority complex to me. He's probably never even played the game.

[RockmanII7]

How come when ever a really good game comes out there are always articles saying why it sucks? I think that's the best way to find a great game, look for articles complaining about it, I mean I've never seen an article saying "5 reasons why Vampire Rain sucks".

[MidnytRain]

WTF is Vampire Rain?

[mastershredder]

You DON'T want to know.

Imagine something vampire-ish that wanted to be Metal Gear/Spliter Cell at the same time (minus MG awesomeness). It looked like something out of Metal Gear Solid, but then, just you start to realize it isn't...you face is sucked right off your skull. ...Just don't.

[AfricanWoolf]

You know the article is a joke right? If you actually read the first few paragraphs the author says he made the title just to score extra fanboy hits.

He loooooooves the game and admits that these 5 things are the ONLY things he can find to nitpick if forced.

Had the same reaction as you, then read the article :)

[xtremexx]

wow, i really need to read this, i cant find one bad point about this game apart from the slow loading screens on PC and its now fixed

[consolez_FTW]

I can't believe I gave this site a hit...Deus Ex is definitely not rubbish. If the author let these small things that aren't even really faults ruin the game for him then I feel really bad for him. The game is Awesome. Besides Infamous2, portal2, this is a contender for my GOTY so far.

[gravemaker]

this article is crap, not Deus Ex

[Huffman]

Even though I agree with a lot of these statements, I still really enjoyed the game. Despite its flaws!

[Vladplaya]

Good point about sprinting, its just silly how you can't sprint worth of shit. I would like to stack at least 5 grenades or so, cuz atm its just ridiculous.

Also I don't mind that tranq darts take just few seconds to work, but the problem that i have is that a lot of times my shots with tranquilizer simply don't register, even when it was a clear hit, which is very very annoying.

[clarkjudo]

I think there is an augmentation that corrects accuracy (LOL). But in any case, I usually aim for non armor plating on the suits. Nailed a thug in butt at one time (LOL).

[SageHonor]

WHY DOES EVERY GAME THAT GETS PRAISE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CALLED OVERRATED BY SOMEBODY...

[BakedGoods]

Because they don't want to admit they're not sophisticated enough to enjoy a deeper gaming experience.

[Kran]

Because thats what the community does?

Its stupid there are people out there.

[Mr Tretton]

Some people don't like to see other people enjoy what they don't enjoy.

[Lord_Sloth]

It all comes down to taste. Elitist fans don't help much either.

Please note that I am enjoying Deus Ex and while I don't think it's a 9 or a 10, I certainly wouldn't call it rubbish. I'm having fun with the title and since I generally despise FPS titles, that's saying something.

[SageHonor]

Yeah i agree i wouldnt give the game that high of a score.. it has faults that bug me a little.. but it still surprised me

[FunkMcnasty]

I hate the word "overrated." People use it as an objective way to say "I don't like it." When someone says, "this game is overrated." They are really saying I didn't like this game, so everyone else should stop saying it's good."

Only review I read for Deus Ex was a Gamespot review and it scored an 8.5 - Though i havent completed it (Jensen Just landed in China at my last save), I definitley think it deserves that score from the 3-4 hours ive put into it so far. It reminds me of some sort of Metal Gear, Mass Effect, and Fallout hybrid..

[BlackKnight]

1. What game has several apartment complexes and you can go into every single room? Just the graphical overhead/load to load all that into ram is quite a feat, especially when the detail in this game is freaking amazing. This is dumb.

EDIT - Adams apartment is riddled with detail, you can go up and look at photos and see pieces of clocks (he has a clock building hobby it seems) and gears, very tiny stuff. Most impressive.

http://www.ripten.com/wp-co...

2. Many items do stack...What is he talking about? Ammo, health items, energy items, hacking items, etc. Only things that don't stack are guns and grenades.

3. The sprint is annoying that it runs out in 2.5 seconds, but it also comes right back in 2.5 seconds. So he gets "tired" fast but recovers just as fast. In real life, if we sprint for 30 seconds and get tired, it takes longer than 30 seconds to recover and spring another 30....so technically, your average movement speed is pretty quick.

4. Exclusives in general suck, that is true. However, doesn't impact the game at all, and MANY games pull this shit.

5. Um, the tranq works instantly if it hits the neck or head, JUST LIKE DEUS EX 1. Just gotta have skill.

Lame article.

[Nicaragua]

The answer to your first question is either of the recent Fallout games.

[BlackKnight]

I don't recall several apartment buildings in FO3 with all rooms accessible. And while FO3 rooms are decently detailed, they aren't as detailed as DE:HR for sure.

[Angrymorgan]

Ridiculous article

[tsunami901]

Avast detects malware on that site.

[kcuthbertson]

Avast detects malware on EVERYTHING...

It actually pissed me off so bad yesterday I uninstalled and got AVG..

When a stupid program things that 1 out of 5 games I've purchased is a virus..it really pisses me off.

[Pro_TactX]

AVG has a fair amount of false positives too. It thinks Portal 2 is a virus.

[M1chl]

Both are from Czech Republic (and you don't want to know how bad security is here), get the hans off these things! : D

[Dread]

This was very lame....

It seems that this guy is really trying to find negative things to say. However, he failed given that none of those reasons ruin the game.

EPIC FAIL!

[dead_eye]

he was trying really hard. read the article again.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I haven't played the game, but video feed is totally underwhelming. I'll get around to playing it, but until then I'm skeptical.

[FunkMcnasty]

For a guy with a Big Boss avatar, you really should check out Deus Ex, sooner rather than later. Again, judging by your avatar, I'd assume your a fan of Metal Gear, and likely a fan of the Sci-Fi Stealth/Espionage genre, and Deus Ex delivers that type of gameplay in gobs :)

Dont be fooled by the mediocre looking graphics, it's an awesome game.

[Sidewinder-]

Tbh these are pretty weak complaints. The one i warm to most being the sprinting and starting off with OP weapons. In DX you could run like the fucking wind.

I am enjoying the game but there is a lot of flawed implementation of gameplay mechanics here. It's almost just damn stupid in some areas.

Hacking. Even if you have found a code to unlock a door, it's pointless to use it if you can hack said door. Do you get xp for using the code? no.

The xp reward diference between killing and non-killing. There are arguments either way, but imo, you don't reward moral choice one over the other.
You feel the need to hack everything in sight and non-lethal your way through the game.

Takedowns-EnergySysterm-Lack of Melé weapons - This is all interlinked too.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

lol...I said screw the non-lethal choice and I go for the headshot everytime, or a physical takedown. So much satisfaction in that.

[Sidewinder-]

will deffo be my choice come second playthrough.

[Pro_TactX]

The point to using the code over hacking is convenience. Also, even though hacking is pretty easy, it can be failed.

The protagonist is ex-SWAT. He is trained to use the least amount of force necessary to resolve a situation. It makes sense for him to use non-lethal measures if he can.

Do you really need melee weapons when you have super-strength and blades in your arms?

[Blitz001]

Jesus...what else will get born? viva la evolution...what a stupid article...

[hilyou]

most of these reasons were pretty lame, seriously ppl need 2 stop making articles bout why this game sucks! these are soo flamebait.

[StayStatic]

OHHH NOOO U DIDN'T ***crowd holds me back***

[OC_MurphysLaw]

OMG... ok lets be honest there are many things you can fault Deus Ex for and say its not perfect. So on the surface this article had a fighting chance...then I read it. EVERY grip this tool has is about game play design choices with the exception of the pre-order stuff...and even that was handled in a very specific way..i.e. designed.

Deus Ex is not perfect, and parts of it are putting it bluntly lacking...but the examples given by this author ARE rubbish and hardly reasons why anyone should call out a game. "You can't stack small items" REALLY? That is your bullshit gripe? lets see you load up your pockets and then stack the small objects and see how well that works for you.

[caboose32]

BLASPHEMY!

[cyclindk]

Here's some negatives:

No preservation of upgrades and inventory as an option on a second play-through?...

His physical abilities at default are rather pathetic, as well as battery usage (almost as if it's just there to make the game artificially longer...)

At WORST I think, to use a comparison, it would not be unreasonable to expect him to wield most, where applicable, of all the perks available in Call of Duty games in the form of augmentations (by default even). Sprint is a ridiculous upgrade... they DOWNGRADE characters just so you have room to upgrade back to normalcy...?!

I believe another developer could have done so much more with the other various aspects of the game, i.e. hacking, stealth elements (should take note from MGS4 or even UNCHARTED for god's sake).

Though, it did turn out better than I expected.

Side Note: anyone experience an EMP glitch where your HUD never reboots?! Second playthrough and reloading the game or completing levels or text dialogues/cutscenes do not remedy this. Might have to start over again, in which case I won't be.

[ATi_Elite]

so correct me if I'm wrong but Deus EX HR is GOTY material.

I actually passed on it but got a chance to see 30 minutes of live footage (while me and my buddy lay dead on the Red Orchestra battlefield) and i have to say it's very very good.

I'm gonna pick it up as soon as i finish Two Worlds II!

[Razgriz18]

The only thing really negative about Deus Ex is the fact that it causes haters to write rubbish articles like this.

[clockworkrazor]

The so called "author" of this pathetic article is obviously very young and in desperate need of hits for this site or just has very bad taste in video games or BOTH.

This guy would HATE Metal Gear Solid if he hates on an equally great game like Deus Ex HR.

[earbus]

Im still keen to play it but ill wait till early to mid next year get it cheap with the dlc .

[romancer]

When a game impresses me, I usually play it thoroughly and get every achievement/trophy. That will not be the case with Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

The fact that it encourages a player to believe that he or she can create a distinctive identity (say, as a Stealth expert) but then contradicts its own premise by throwing in Bosses that can only be defeated through extreme combat -- is enough to make me question what is going on.

I also question enemies popping out of nowhere (not based on any realistic principle). And, ss long as they are alive, they seem to have endless supplies of ammo; but kill one of them and he turns out to have next to nothing. It's as if the game's designers are cheating and setting up Gotcha! situations that make little sense.

I also think Stealth should amount to a lot more than crawling through air vents, over and over again.

I have not seen a single review that delves deeply into the game and analyzes its gameplay. Videogame reviewing is not a very sophisticated art at present. Most reviews seem written in a rush. Over at Metacritic, Deus Ex has an 89 approval rating (currently); Street Fighter 3 has 87; Bastion has 87; Child of Eden has 84, Ms. 'Splosion Man an 83; it's as if every game that comes out is a masterpiece for 3 or 4 weeks. Whereas I have come to realize that even the very best games have their shortcomings... and hardly anything truly deserves a 9 or a 10.

I would give high marks to Bioshock, Fallout 3, Red Dead Redemption; but I do not find Deus Ex: Human Revolution to be in their league. It's an ambitious game -- and it's a tough game; but i look forward to something better.

I can easily respect those who do enjoy the game, as we all approach games with different past experiences and different tastes.

[Braid]

"...then contradicts its own premise by throwing in Bosses that can only be defeated through extreme combat -- is enough to make me question what is going on."

What was going on with Metal Gear Solid series? l don't understand why people are so mad at those boss battles, that you can play the game using stealth tactics doesn't mean that you should not engage in extreme combat. This isn't Thief nor you're a regular person, the guy is an iron man for Christ's sake, would it be better for him to turn the cloak on and run away when close combat is inevitable? Of course your average person would do so, but not a vengeance seeking and overly strenghtened iron soldier.

[Bolts]

Every stealth game have boss combat. Metal Gear, Splinter Cell, even Thief.

There isn't a single stealth based game where you can just sneak through every god damn encounter.

[MysticStrummer]

Extreme combat? I've only faced three bosses, but the third was the only one that I'd even call combat. The first boss can be defeated without firing a shot for pete's sake. This is a smart game and, sorry, but it doesn't sound like you're playing it in a smart way. The same goes for stealth, which involves much more than vent crawling. But like you say, people's opinions and tastes vary. I don't put Fallout 3 anywhere on my "Favorite Games of the Gen" list, but Deus Ex is gonna end up in the top 10 easy, and maybe even in the top 5, which includes Bioshock. I agree that there are some small issues here and there, but this game is mostly amazing in my opinion.

[romancer]

I would be interested in learning more about how the first boss can be defeated without firing a single shot.... (give or take)

I had (still have) a character whose augmentations were invested in improving his stealth characteristics: to me, in a role-playing game one should be allowed to make choices that have some bearing on every future major action in the game. I was NOT expecting to "sneak" by any Bosses... but i also wasn't expecting to have all my augmented skills rendered irrelevant. Perhaps I was also expecting something more sophisticated from Deus Ex: Human Revolution than over-powered stereotypes.

In a game like Dragon Age, you can choose to specialize as a Mage, Rogue or Warrior, and these skills are serviceable in any battle you have with Bosses. Is it unreasonable to expect augmentations in Deus Ex: HR to be a good investment for every type of character, in mastering the game? (Dragon Age also allows you to re-configure your specializations whenever you wish, providing you have enough gold, so that you can deal with an unusual situation involving different skills.)

Even apart from Bosses, i felt that Deus Ex: HR was repeatedly pushing me into a Combat role.not offering a free choice. Perhaps a game of this sort is only loosely called an "RPG" but the term is not too meaningful. (Bioshock didn't call itself an RPG, and combat was obviously expected; i felt at home there and got all of the achievements.)

Perhaps something "Portalesque" would have been appropriate: tough, complex, puzzling... rather than just brute force confrontations out of nowhere. In a futuristic sci-fi setting anything is possible, but Duke Nukem types look anachronistic. However, the game is what it is...and my mind is still open as to its merits.

Perhaps, as one commentator below states, it is much better (in some respects) on a PC -- although i would need to make a major upgrade in computer equipment to find out.

[Bladesfist]

Deus ex: HR reminded me of KOTOR I spent time making sure I visited every room hacking doors and exploring and "stealing" everything. The game had a good story and actually made you have to think and plan your engagements and maneuvers before you made them. All I can say is, I want more of this.

[Jdub895O]

You know what i hate? When kids become expert reviewers. Ive been gaming since Ultima underworld days, its not fair that theses kids get to write a stupid ass article about games that they dont know about. Ive played the first Deus ex and was amazed and then the one on xbox (invisible war) To be honest they seem for only the smart gamers or the older gamers ass it seems. Alot of games nowadays are getting DUMBED DOWN. I know alot of you have noticed. Maybe its just because i grew up in the pc gaming era and then sega gen came out and i played bothe ever since. Ps1 came out....still pc gamed and played avp elder scrolls daggerfall and other great games. Ps2 came out and stopped pc gaming....... :(

[TheGameMan]

you gotta play it on pc, much better looking, much better ai and controls, it is a more difficult and satisfying game on pc!

[romancer]

what would you recommend as the system requirements to play DE:HR on a PC?

I don't mean the minimum requirements, i wouldn't want the game to struggle....

I am interested in having the best graphics possible...

[TheGameMan]

you need at least a decent dual core cpu and a $75 or up dedicated graphics chip with 2 gb ram and you could run it better than consoles at 1600x900 (900p) with a small amount of aa and it would look very good....

to really max it something like this would work very well....

http://www.gamersnexus.net/...

of course any more cash you put in you will yeild even better results, but that build i linked is nice, personally i might swap the video card for a 560 ti by nvidia,

let me know if you got other questions!

[SITH]

I love this game. I don't see one reason not too. I can't wait for dlc.

[Bay]

Only point that irked me a bit was the lack of stacking on smaller items. Most small items are stackable, except for some, like grenades. Some items are NOT stackable, oddly enough. But it's never a big a deal since I upgraded my inventory space to the highest amount.

The rest of the points sounds more like nitpicking, really.

[pnoozi]

niggling... lmao.

[JC_Denton]

Just got malware from this site. Thanks, n4g.

[plmkoh]

Here we go, some desk jocky sees that a game is very popular and highly praised, and with all intentions to be a contrarian he writes a hate article.

How typical.

[Xof]

I'll tell you what's rubbish: making a stealth combat game, and then giving beefcake soldier bosses that are impossible to use stealth against. Total and complete garbage.

I want to love stealth games. I really do. But it's like no one understands how to make 'em. Tried to get into Metal Gear twice, to no avail--second game had the same problem as Deus Ex, all stealth, then ACTION BOSS MACHINE GUN FIRE BANG... and I think we all know how inaccessible the fourth game was to non-fans.

[MasterD919]

Bottomline...No game is perfect. Every game has its faults. They all can't be winners. Etc....

[mokopa]

The stealth suck, your given at least 4 AI to fight, so consolised. Solution, go Rumbo on them.

[Ness-Psi]

the only thing i think lets it down is the graphics are a bit rough in some areas and character models can be a bit shitty. apart from that top game.

[Peaceful_Jelly]

my anti-virus say that the site is infected and I can't open it. =/

[Der_Kommandant]

The stealth gameplay is beyond awesome

[M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L]

...Maybe this guy sucks at the game. >_>

[FunkMcnasty]

I think the only thing I can Fault Deus Ex for is it's awkward controls, and the fact that they are not customizable. It would be much better if the 3rd person coversystem worked more like MGS4 or Splinter cell conviction, and it would also be great if you could simply hold down a button for iron sights in 1st person view instead of having to toggle the view off and on by clicking the analog stick.

[Bedwellius]

I hope PlugHead are happy with the traffic they got for this.... because this was clearly only to get gut reactions and get traffic.

[SizzlingChaz]

this article is pointless. I can't believe I wasted 30 seconds scanning over such insignificant points which apparently make the game "rubbish". I loved the way he tried to cover his tracks by saying that people would criticize the article for its provocative title....well of course clever cloggs...you generated aload of hits by writing a load of shit.

[Kamikaze135]

Hmm...rubbish or not, it's still one of the best games out in the current gen. Especially in a generation where we're plagued with the same sort of games so constantly. A game like Deus Ex 3 stands out very easily.

[pijinio212]

I luv it..who agrees with me when i say it has that metal gear tone with a touch of mass effect thrown in for kicks...luv what they did there...

[CrzyFooL]

Burn this article with fire.