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PS3 vs. PSVita: The Same Price? Is Sony Competing with itself?

GR: When the PlayStation Vita pricing was announced at E3 2011, the gaming community let out a simultaneous sigh of relief: The Vita will be affordable. After the 3DS price drop, analysts and investors spoke out against Sony, claiming that the Vita needed to have a lower price. At first I didn't at all agree with analysts calling for a PlayStation Vita price drop, especially not before it was ever released. But with the latest news that the PS3 price was dropped to $249, I'm starting to agree.

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doctorstrange4659d ago

I'm sure some consumers will think "I can get a bigger, more powerful, more multimedia capable device for the same price"

fluffydelusions4659d ago

I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard the price.

Sev4659d ago

It's hard not to think like that. Now imagine the uninformed consumer and how they're going to think. The PS3 will win every time.

saladthieves4659d ago

It is a bit weird that the Vita (3G Model) costs more than the PS3. Understandable, but a bit weird to think about, in my opinion.

NewMonday4659d ago

dream bundle:

PS3+PSV+MOVE+free game for 500$

maybe add a free month of PSN+ for good measure

how dose this sound?

darthv724659d ago

for a company to release a product that not only competes with others but also their own product line. Pretty standard if anything.

That seems to be the one aspect many on this site often forget. Sony has been competing with themselves since the ps3 first released. The popularity of the ps2 is what I believe was stalling the sales boom sony was expecting with the ps3.

Nintendo is competing against the ds/dsi with the 3ds. It isnt always the obvious competitors such as 3ds and psp or ps3 and 360. Now as for a promo bundle of Move/PSV and PS3 would be great but they would more than likely want to make the price less as a bundle than buying them individually.

MaxXAttaxX4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

PSVita is also very multimedia capable.
The technology, portability, etc, different.

If people want a multimedia home system, they'll get the PS3. Not because it's bigger.

If people want a portable multimedia gaming system, they'll get the PSVita.
It's plenty powerful for its small size and includes several features not found on the PS3 itself.

BattleAxe4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

They're two different experiences, so the question is do you want a handheld thats more powerful than a 360 on the go, or do you want a home entertainment system that can play Blu Ray discs.

The Vita can be used as a camera/ Video Camera, a communication device with 3G and its camera being used for Skype, a music/ movie player when on the go, web browsing on the go, and since its Android based you should be able to use Google Earth and Google maps which is great for work if you're on the road alot like I am. If they upgrade the firmware to include cell phone capability, I'll get rid of my HTC.

If people have kids, and they want to buy them a game system, but don't want to fork out money for a TV for their kids rooms, or they don't want their kids hogging the TV in the livingroom, then Vita is the perfect answer.

hkgamer4658d ago

BattleAxe... the PSVita is not android based... why do people think that?

Sony is not stupid enough to pay google for every PSvita they use...

PSvita will have the PSsuite though, which I think you are getting it mixed up with... read it up yourself...

Back on topic, I think people who doesn't have a home console will think that, but people that do will want a PSvita.

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KingSlayer4659d ago

If you're looking for a portable gaming device, console prices are pointless. Why not look at all the other things you could buy?

Anon19744659d ago

Ugh. Ridiculous. It's like saying "Sony sells TV's AND stereo equipment!? Are they trying to compete with themselves?"

These are two completely separate products. No one is going to go into a store looking for a Blu-Ray player and game console and go "Wait a second. A portable game player? Did you know about this?" Just like people shopping for portable devices aren't going to suddenly be confused by the PS3.

Holy crap, Sony also sells the PSP/Android smartphone! Consumers looking to buy a PS3 might buy one of them instead! What is Sony thinking having multiple products? Every Sony Phone/Vita/PS3 sold is taking a sale away from Sony's phones/Vita's/PS3's! Have they lost their minds?

news4geeks4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

well said

I also believe this will actually benefit the playstation brand having two well priced systems getting their name out there, especially in north america.

miyamoto4658d ago

well said, mate!
well said.

theonlylolking4659d ago

Many people also want to play games when they are gone and if they can get the same quality at home and on the go they might go for a PSvita. I would suggest a PSV for anyone that does not have an HDtv and you are out of your house a lot.

Thatguy-3104659d ago

But you can't take the ps3 on the go can you? Vita is a whole new system with its own library and features..thanks to mainstream of games on the go thanks to smartphones I think vita will survive at its price. Sony just needs to market the hell out of it

EZMickey4659d ago

It should be noted that there are some markets, such as Japan, where portable gaming is the more common kind because of the average consumers lifestyle.

At the very least I hope to see the Vita bundled with some sick games this holiday season.

cliffbo4659d ago

if comsumers think that then they are dumb the ps3 has been out for a few years now and as we all know hardware comes down in price so for a new piece of hardware to be priced at the same price as the ps3 is actually very cheap and well worth the purchase when the 3DS came out did anyone complain about the price of that when it was $249

ps also you cannot walk around with a ps3 in your pocket but you can have a simular experience with a veta on the go.

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alexcosborn4659d ago

True, Sony may benefit from a price drop on the Vita even if it's only $25

joeyisback4659d ago (Edited 4659d ago )

sony has no one else to compete with

insertcoin4659d ago

A PS3 and PS Vita bundle for $399.99. Make it happen!

*trans-farring my thoughts to Sony*

cochise3134659d ago

That would be insane. It could happen though. I'd say about $450 though. That would be a sweet deal.

PirateThom4659d ago

I predict one of these devices will have a price drop before the Vita releases... and it won't be the Vita.

EZMickey4659d ago

Dude, the PS3 just had a price drop.

PirateThom4659d ago

Yes, but Sony aren't going to have both devices at the same price and they're not going to drop the price of an unreleased device.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers23d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken22d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g23d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing23d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H923d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola23d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66923d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle23d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg23d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos23d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola23d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies44d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken44d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga44d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken44d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6443d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long43d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197243d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic43d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12544d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91344d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer44d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91343d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit43d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher44d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6943d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit43d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher44d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken44d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197243d ago (Edited 43d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic43d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2344d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218343d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit43d ago (Edited 43d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder44d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts44d ago

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