The Orange Box PS3 now pushed back to January 2008

EA has just revealed in its latest European release schedule that Half Life 2: The Orange Box on Playstation 3 has been delayed again. The Xbox 360 and PC versions have been in stores since early October, but the Playstation 3 version would release 'a few weeks after that', according to Valve.

In the latest trailers Valve promised that the PS3 version would be in stores in time for the holidays. Apparently Valve ran in to some more trouble with the Playstation 3 as Orange Box on the Playstation 3 is now scheduled for release on January 17, 2008. A specific reason for this delay was not given.

[the worst]

ea suck

[cloud360-7th_account]

Hey check out EAsuck.com . its just waiting to get crearted. i maen the domian name. it just takes you to a simple step by step thing.

But it semes that somone alrready bought it so no one can use it. No doubt it was EA

[Tommie]

EA is just publisher. Valve is developer, you think they suck?

[macsto]

Again blaming everything but the PS3 for the delays and shoddy games.

Funny how Shmee the sony fanboy is reporting this story :)

[Evil0Angel]

MS you got my money once again.

[eLiNeS]

Why would anyone want one except maybe to watch movies on.

[Tryst]

Tommie - EA are actually developing the game for the PS3. Valve outsourced it to EA so they could concerntrate on the 360 and PC version.

This does not surprise my in the slightest one bit. EA are just pathetic. I mean, how delayed is the Medal of Honour game that they are meant to be bringing out for the PS3. That is going to be a massive flop - no one is even talking about that considering Cod4, Haze and UT3 are coming out.

[jackfatal]

but only them!! they r either stupid or lazy or cheap!

[bennyace]

Everyone keeps saying EA sucks and that there's this big conspiracy against Playstation 3, (like EA wouldn't want to put there hands on all the money they can get!). But when a game like Madden or NBA comes out they're all there to buy it ! You can disagree all you want, Charts don't lie.

@unlimited: I strongly doubt that you held the same kind of, quality over quantity speech when the PS2 was in its prime and had all the games coming out for it and the xbox had to wait for the exclusivity timer to run out. And by the way my 360 is going fine. So keep waiting, I'll keep playing.

[unlimited]

at least the games dont crap out our system..look at the 360 every game you play on it you will get the red lights of death..i pick quality not quanity EA SUCK anyways

[CyberSentinel]

LMFAO!

Take Your Time EA, PS3 "Gamers" Don't Matter.

[Wii60_FTW]

ps3 suck

[Kaneda]

Peter Moore Sucks!! He couldn't fix the RROD for 360 and jumped ship to EA...and EA production is getting worst! There must be some kind of connection between 360fanboys and Peter Moore... :)

Infinity Ward is hiring! :)

[godofthunder10]

here we go again,it's never the ps3 fault,it's always the developers.almost every game developer said that the ps3 is to tricky to program for because of the way sony built it,the only ones that said it's good are the ones that make games strickly for sony.hell a few of them said sony need to do away with it and start over already.
the funnies thing is that they blame peter moore for every thing now.i'm also tired of hearing about the rrod,hey you don't hardly hear about it any more do you because it's fixed now.
i'm tired of hearing how sony fanboys pick quality not quanity because sony isn't perfect.when they came out with the ps1 and 2 they had a lot of problems,they kept saying can't read disc even if it was a new system with a new game.i had to buy 5 of them in less then a year and a half,hell they sold 100 million + but that don't mean that they sold that many to different people,if they sold a 100 milliom then about 50 million people bought them because on an average a person had to buy at least 2 because every one i know had to buy 2 or more hell i know some one that had to buy 6 of them and you probly had to buy atleast 2 but i know you want admit it, but you and the rest of the sony fanboys don't want to talk about that.
when sony had all that problem with the ps1 and 2 they didn't do a damn thing about it but micro gave every one a 3 year warrinty so you have a warrinty for half the console life for free.the reason that the ps1 and 2 didn't become a big deal was because when they came out they didn't hardly have any one on the internet but when the 360 came out the whole world was on the internet,so when the ps1 and 2 came out people couldn't talk about it and spread the news around but when the 360 came out every one in the world was talking about it and spreading the news,hell i've read some post where they claimed that they had a 360 and it burned up but you could tell that they were lieing because a lot of them just was impossiably,they were just sony fanboys spreading lies,so if the internet was like it is now back when the ps1 and 2 came out then sony would've had the same problem micro had.
i also read a post where a sony fanboy blames micrisoft(sony fanboys come up with some ridiuculious excues)for the ps3 problems again,and he complains that microsoft buy exclusives well i know you are not that dum to belive that microsoft is the only one,hell sony do the same thing,if sony and microsoft don't pay with money then they give the game companies other essentives to make their game exclusive to them and that's a fact.if sony didn't do that then they wouldn't be where they are at right now.companies always worked like that to get on top and if they didn't then they wouldn't be competive.look at it this way,the 360 accounts for 50% of software sales,so if a game company is smart then they would make their games for the 360 because of a bigger install base and the software sales it accounts for,it's the only smart thing to do,unless sony paid you money or gave you some other essentive to make the game excusive to them because if they didn't then they would have to put the game on the 360 because it account for more software sales then all the other combined.
i'm not saying the 360 is perfect because it isn't and i don't blame sony for every problem the 360 has but sony fanboys need to stop blaming every body but sony because all the problems with the ps3 isn't nobody fault but sonys.just listen to what the majority of developers say about the ps3 and please don't listen to sonys developers because you know what they are going to say.with all the developers complaining about the ps3 and all the delays in games and the ps3 doesn't have the power that sony claims it has,hell the only ones that say it does is sony,sony fanboys,and developers that has a lot invested in the ps3 but the majority of them said that they are really equal in power.
i'm not trying to make a smart a** remark but the way that sony fanboys blame every body else for the ps3 problems except sony is just ridiuculious and it make all of them look like their brains just can't absorb facts and it make them look jealous because of the poor sales of the ps3 and they need to blame some one other then sony for the ps3 problems.
the truth is that sony screwed up on the ps3 because they wasn't worry about the game war because they figured that they won it already.they forced br on the consumers not for games but to get a jump on the format war and it worked for them because if they didn't put the br drive in the ps3 then br would've lost already but it hurt them big time in the game war,hell sony wasn't even worried about games for the ps3,they said that their fans would buy the ps3 with out any games so they put all their time into the br drive instead of getting games and it hurt them.i know that sony fanboys will say that games need br but just read pc mag because they are not bias,they said that games want need br or hd-dvd for another 3 to 4 years,and it's true,just think for a minute,they only have about 3 games that so called needed br and the rest of the games used dvd-9 and they still have space on it,just look at mass effect,it's has every thing a next gen game is supose to have and they still have a lot of space left,they still had space left on oblivian and it lasted about 50 hrs.,even if you have to use more then 1 disc big deal we did it before and it was no big deal,but now the sony fanboys act like it's to much work to change disc but they didn't have any problems doing it before.
if sony would've put a dvd-9 into the ps3 then it probly would be #1 then in about 5 years later they could've put br in it with all the works the top model have for about $300 to $400 on launch date because the drives would be a lot cheaper and then at that time games will probly need more space.i think micro did it right,they put dvd-9 in the 360 and out sold the ps3,and about 4 years from now (it would be 6 years old)they will come out with another one with a lot more power then the ps3 with br or hd-dvd depending on the winner for around $300 to $400 and they will sell well and this time it will be able to play all the 360 games on it because they own the chips this time not like the regular xbox when another company owned a certain chip that some games needed to play.

[Kaneda]

Blame on Sony...

hmmm... Infinity Ward is much smaller company than EA... They seems to do fine for PS3 w/ no complain... EA is much bigger w/ more resource than IW, they shouldn't have problem with PS3. But they do, and seem like they are not in the hurry to fix it. That will hurt their image.

Upper managements are the people that dictate how to company run... and EA people are doing a horrible jobs.

And I owned 1 PS1 (still works), and 1 PS2 (still works)... If Sony has problem w/ productions.. they fixed it, unlike M$ offered extended warranty and forget about it.

[cloud360-7th_account]

No doubt this is Microsft doing...... Who knows. but all of these games getting delayed just seems weird and after all ms have been paying companies for exlusivity .

And EA is only company streesing how hard it is to programme for PS3. i dont think its whats hard about it, but they aint familiar with it But what do i know

But this may be good. It just means PS3 has killer 2008.

[InMyOpinion]

You are not very old are you? I'm guessing 13-14.

[QuackPot]

EA and Valve are Microsoft fanboys.

Major 3rd party publishers/developers like Ubisoft, Infinity Ward, Epic are having no problem with the Ps3. So Valve, your excuse is? Are you not as good as Epic or Infinity Ward? Clearly you aren't.

My advice to Ps3 owners:

Boycott EA games.... until they stop making crappy ports and stop favouring one console over another with unjustified delays.

Wait untill The Orange Box hits the bargain bin .... as you won't be missing much. Yes you're getting 5 games for 1 but it's no giant leap forward in gaming - mostly all the same old.

And this is coming from a great fan of HL franchise. No more. Valve u r fanboy idiots.

This ex-HL fan is going to save his money for the great exclusives coming in 2008 as well as the sweet - non delayed - multiplats.

[poopface1]

The sales of PS3 games just doesnt justify the time or money that developers put into their games. Mabe they are just delaying so they can have a bigger instal base after the holidays, It seem that some games on 360 were pushed back too because they don't want to compete with big games like Halo or assasins creed, so that could be the case here too. This just means that you will be able to save some more money cause there are too many awsome games coming out on PS3 and 360 I cant afford to buy half of the games I want.

[poopface1]

The sales of PS3 games just doesnt justify the time or money that developers put into their games. Mabe they are just delaying so they can have a bigger instal base after the holidays, It seem that some games on 360 were pushed back too because they don't want to compete with big games like Halo or assasins creed, so that could be the case here too. This just means that you will be able to save some more money cause there are too many awsome games coming out on PS3 and 360 I cant afford to buy half of the games I want.

[Daishi]

Ubisoft and Epic have both reported having problems developing for the PS3. Remember R6 Vegas, and all those reports of the unreal 3 engine not running properly? They did fix it by spending quality time with the system, but EA is not the only dpublisher/developer having problems with the PS3's technology.

[TheMART]

Whoops another delay on the Delaystation 3? Gosh.

BluRay movies are still coming right on scheduled dates I hear.

[cloud360-7th_account]

the flash portal game is really good. I wud by this game. it wud be the first 1st person shooter i buy in like 4 years. Last 1st person shooter i play was medal of

[unwind_protect]

This is great news, MS Wichser! I wouldn't have time to play it in November (want to concentrate on CoD4 and Warhawk) and dont want to suck in Team Fortress because others had more time to practice. :) I hope UT3 will only come out in January and not before Christmas.

[kingboy]

It`s simply a marketing strategy..makes perfect sense considering this season`s already saturated with game realeases

[m9105826]

Specifically FPS games too...

[xhi4]

sucks. I might go buy the 360 version now. But it might work out seeing as I come back from overseas in january, but still, Ea = sh**house.

I mean seriously, Valve i swear why did they have to palm off the ps3 port to EA? Like seriously? Anyone......ANYONE but EA.

The 360 version is looking mighty delicious right now.....

Bloody EA.

[jackdoe]

Sony must have killed Newell's dog to incur such hatred from him. Anyway, get the PC version if you don't want to wait. It will be $25 on black friday.

[P4KY B]

PS3 fans should all buy it when its released, and not just ignore it because its also available on 360. Like they do with so many multiplatform games.

[QuackPot]

I don't ignore a game because it's multiplat.

I ignore a game because it's simply crap or a crappy port or an unnecessary delay....especially when there's no excuse for it. Oh, did I forget to mention that it has to be crap?

I'm only buying AAA exclusives for my 360 otherwise everything else is for the Ps3(exclusives and AAA multiplats).

Crappy ports will be swiftly ignored. Crap, I said it again.

[jackdoe]

I only ignore a game that comes out too late past its launch window. Orange Box is a good game for this year, but next year there are so many better games coming out and because of that, I will ignore this game on the PS3.

[Salvadore]

EA are still struggling with the PS3.

[kspraydad]

So this only applies to EU...where did Valve say the EU version would be a 'few weeks' ... I assumed they were speaking of the US version.

[Phaqutomb]

looks like its the EU version to me also. does not say anything about the US verison. GameStop.com still has a December 11th pre-release

[JamesH]

seeing as the EA company that valve past it on to to port it, is EA UK then you'll be seeing europe getting the game first then the US

[kittoo]

I mean....why EA and not someone else. EA sucks at programming, especially for PS3. Hell they even make bad PC ports while PC is supposed to be similar to Xbox360 in architecture.
Valve....dont ever again give anything to EA.

[resistance100]

Althought this doesn't bother me personally as not interested in the game, portal however thats a game i want to try, i wish valve would release it on the PS Store as a seperate purchase as im not paying 40qid for it

[TheMART]

So now Valve suddenly = EA?

There is NO EA studio involved. It's Valve guys. I'm playing Team Fortress 2 & Half Life 2 + the 2 episodes on my 360 already for some weeks, this is not EA's faulth. It's Sony's by giving bad development tools and not enough support probably. Go blame them!

[unwind_protect]

MS Wichser, the PS3 port is developped in England by a EA internal studio.

[The_Engineer]

flip flops on the importance of HDMI when it suits him and now he resorts to outright lies (although I think he always has). everyone and their mother knows Valve pawned this off to EA for porting to PS3.

have another cup of STFU NOOB!!

[Tryst]

Mart: you have your head so far up Bill Gates' ass you are out of touch with whats going on.

Did you know it is Christmas next month?

[TheMART]

Ofcourse guys ofcourse

You don't need the game but you already have so much to play, sure...

It's just simple!

WAIT B3YOND

PLAY R3TARD3D

and... This is waiting! Enjoy the Delaystation & Waitstation 3

[Martini]

Marty you are wrong! EA is porting this title to PS 3, Valve has nothing to do with it. (noob) :)

BTW: Orange Box is nothing special (not GOTY material IMO) - it looks dated not really on par with what 360 has to offer lately. Portal is the best game in there - wish it was longer.

[BlackCountryBob]

Maybe in the months until launch EA and Valve can get together and redesign the worst game cover art I have ever seen.

Still, it is an annoyance that games are still getting delayed by some publishers (Activision managed to get COD4 out on the same day, whats so tough about it that EA can't manage it?) but I wasn't planning on buying this game anyway as I really disliked Half Life 1 so on a personal level it doesn't particularly bother me.

EA, just make sure Burnout gets released on the same day on PS3, its all I want from you.

EDIT: Did the 3 people who disagreed with me do it because they think the cover art is good or because they want Burnout to be delayed? Just thought I would ask.

[unwind_protect]

Criterion uses PS3 as the lead platform.

[KidMakeshift]

If Microsoft is somehow behind all these delayed and sub par ports. It feels as if Microsoft is offering somekind of lucrative proposition to all these developers and publishers to help undermind (by this, I don't mean Microsoft is persuading the developers to intentionally mess up the port, but more as influencing the developers priorities, port progress, budget, and team size) it's true competition in the console war. I mean the whole GTA4 exclusive expansion packs supports this theory in that Microsoft is most definitely serious in overtaking Playstations once exceeding sales by trying to buy out its loyalist. EA is no different and in ways it's monopolizing the market, which Microsoft has been sued for numerous times. I just can't help to think that there's more to these shoddy ports other than the supposed technical problems developers have with the PS3's architecture.

To gnothe1
I never said Sony was any kind of Saint. Sony tried to take down Nintendo 64, and in ways they kind of succeeded with the PS1 by buying up all the 3rd party developers.

[gnothe1]

you think that MS would try an buy developers off on the 360 version of games just like sony bought gang tackling as exclusive to madden 2007 for the PS3!! thats right!! gang tackling was exclusive to the PS3 version of madden 2007 because sony made the deal with EA!! an thats something that should have been in the game period!!

[sajj316]

Really. I am appreciative of the concern given to the release of the Orange Box for the PS3. I really am. My heart is just so warm right now knowing that TheMart and company takes a genuine interest in my gaming satisfaction.

This is for the EU and not for NA. My hope is that I get it in time for the holidays. If the game is not up to par with the 360 version, I certainly will get the 360 copy.

[xplosneer]

The game was outsourced to the EU EA!
So coming to US would take as long if not longer.
I hate EA. HATE.

[bOOmStiCK]

This is tremendous news. I was worrying i couldn't buy the game because of the overflow of games that are coming in november and december.

[FirstknighT]

This has nothing to do with EA. Valve are the ones having the problems. When are you sony fools going to get it in your head that it's the ps3 that is the problem.

[The_Engineer]

and asked me to offer you a nice cup of STFU NOOB!!! lol

[kingboy]

... this has nothing to do with the 360,gosh go play some Halo

[Martini]

COD 4 > Halo

[Blitzed]

Are you illiterate? Ea is handling the port. You constantly comment without knowing what you are talking about.

[The_Engineer]

with a tired game engine to boot. PS3 has too many other good titles on the way for PS3 owners to even care about some half ass port. Ratchet,COD:4,UNcharted,HAze,U T:3,KZ2,and maybe even MGS:4 by the time this turd comes out. At this point I would say don't even bother publishing this outdated crap as I doubt it would sell much at all. This mediocre title seems more suited to the 360 anyway.

[KidMakeshift]

Even though Half-Life might seem dated graphically compared to Bioshock and Call of Duty, it's still a fantastic franchise that all these other FPS have taken note of.

[achira]

no problem, played half life 2 in the year 2005. who needs this game ? this is very old. if there would be counter strike, that would be different.

[The Panther]

sony cant be youre only console if so you will be waiting for old xbox games forever

[achira]

whats your problem. you seem destabilised. why the hate ? ps3 gamers have to wait for nothing, because there are enough games, which are far better than the 2 old year half life 2.

[Bathyj]

I bought the Xbox version when I found out EA were doing the PS3 version. I could handle the delay but not EA.

Great game by the way, I wish Portal was longer, its hella cool.

[KidMakeshift]

It's on newgrounds.com

[FirstknighT]

It's Valve developing the game not EA. And stop creating accounts and giving yourself bubbles.

[Bathyj]

I thought EA were doing the PS3 version. Anyway, I've already got it on Xbox.

Sorry Knight, only got one account and always have had one so deal with it. Maybe I have bubbles because I'm not a troll. Its nice to be loved, sorry, guess you'll never know.

I'm not sneaky like you, like the time I caught you changing your name and sucking up to PS3 trying to get bubbles from the Sony boys but you were too dumb to change your avatar.

Ha, thats so pathetic. Remember that? When I busted you? I almost felt sorry for you. Haha. Actually if theres a charity doing research for whatever you have I'll donate a weeks pay to it. Maybe we can even get some Folding@home to help out. Anything to fix you buddy.

[Bathyj]

Ha, there you go. One of you inbred minion cousins took a bubble. You'll have something to talk about at the reunion.

Gee, I better make 10 more accounts and top my bubbles up.

That was sarcasm by the way.

[0LDSCH00L]

Your funny! it seems that the only system best suited for midiocre titles is the PS3, cause it has the majority of those!

[The_Engineer]

with MUCH better graphics and MUCH better framerate says hi to all the xbots out there who swear the 360 is the only console worth owning.

I own a 360 myself but am not so blinded by fanboyism that I can't recognize what a special machine Sony has built in the PS3. Make no mistake about it by xmas 09 the PS3 will have left the 360 in the dust.
Hell my quad core pc with a 8800GTX already blows it out of the water, and it's only a year older....lol

Do like I do, enjoy the 360 for the games it has and the multiplayer it provides. Don't try to make it into a playstation killer because in the end you will just look like an idiot.

[KidMakeshift]

It hasn't been a great year for the PS3 but it has offered gamers several games you wouldn't see on the 360: Heavenly Sword, Lair, Eye of Judgment, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet And Clank: Tools of Destruction, Folklore, Imabikisou, Genji 2, Warhawk. I know all these games have mixed reviews but at the same time it's nice having alot of unique choices. The 360 isn't as varied with it's game genre's. Don't get me wrong, the majority of my favorite games this year are on the 360 like Bioshock, but the 360 still feels like it has a PC mentality and the PS3 feels more like a game console.

[switch-it]

Jesus Christ EA!

[Swatfish]

haha what a stupid noob company...they should call Infinity Ward and Criterion and ask how to develop xD

[Kill Crow]

"Hell my quad core pc with a 8800GTX already blows it out of the water, and it's only a year older....lol"

It's really incredibly funny you should say that. Seeing as the PS3 is 1 year older than the xbox 360 as well, and it has 8 .... say again ... 8 cores (OK I know 1 is spare and 1 is operating system etc ) and it's supposed to have the mother of all graphics cards ...

...and yet it can only produce games that are either the same quality as the 360, in many instances that are inferior quality to the 360 and only in rare cases has it produced a better quality game, but not so much better for a system that on paper is at least twice as powerfull as the 360.

very funneh indeed !!!!

PS3 cell architecture is simply not the best way to deliver games. It's very powerfull but way to complicated - hence this thread - another delayed game ... lol.

I said lol.

[The_Engineer]

if EVERY single developer out there was having trouble with the PS3 you would have a point. The fact that Imsomniac,Infinity,Naughty Dog,Team Ninja,Ninja Theory,Kojima,Guerilla games,Sony's london studios, and many other devs have said it is a wonderful machine who's potential they haven't even begun to tap and yet they are hitting home runs with the titles they have released or will release within it's first year should give all die-hard playstation haters reason to be alarmed.

Just as there a million ways to program and achieve the same result so there are a million ways to design a console and achieve the same result. Sony chose a distributed architecture because they have VISION. They don't wait for the PC market to innovate, they take the lead and become problem solvers themselves. Just like CPU speed started leveling off two years ago and went to multi-core architectures, so did the processing required to run truly NEXT GEN games start placing demands on these single core systems that they just couldn't provide. The industry itself had hit a bottleneck. Sony along with IBM and Toshiba have shown us a way to overcome this processing workload in REALTIME.

Do you think any off the shelf programmer is gonna be able to take a radically different architecture and run with it??

EA and Valve = off the shelf programmers

[KidMakeshift]

With all the different versions of the PS3 (Sony Just have one SKU), I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to sell you the cores individually.

[Mars Attacker]

I had fun reading the Sony fanboy posts in this thread.

"My advice to PS3 owners: Boycott EA games...."

Don't worry. At the current PS3 attach rate they basically are boycotting all games. Did you see EA's earning report yesterday?

"You have to wonder if Microsoft is somehow behind all these delayed and sub par ports."

Denial? Blame anyone, but your wonderful PS3 and its terrible development system.

"valve = has beens with a tired game engine to boot."

Funny, this game has a pure AAA rating on Metacritic.

Keep them coming. I'll check back later today. I could use a few more laughs.

[KidMakeshift]

Questioning the state of PS3's shoddy ports doesn't make me a fanboy of either party. I'm just simply wondering if there's something more to it than technical differences between the two consoles. I have all 3 systems of this generation and last, as I'm sure most people on here own more than one console. Plus, I already own the Orange Box for the 360. I'm just commenting on here because I think it's pretty craptastic that the PS3 isn't getting the game till next year without any kind of bonuses for the delay.

So, get over your God damn labeling because that only makes you come off like a fascist :)

[WilliamRLBaker]

even though the guy at valve is all

""we are using 100% of 360's power""
and then says

"" we are hardly using 20% of the ps3's the cell is amazing""

he must have drank to much nyquil and dayquil together that day.

[Guitarded]

have nothing to do with being lazy or stupid. It's a conscious decision not to spend resources on the console with the lowest install base. They spend money where they know they can make a profit. Enjoy third place Sony, you stupid morons.

[TheXgamerLive]

1. Who's surprised? Nobody is.

2. Who cares? Nobody cares.

[IQUITN4G]

More potential PS3 owners lost then.

As much as PS3 fans try and sex up their purchase, truth is 360 is by far the more attractive in terms of game choice.Yes PS3 will have great games but so too will 360 and it will also be ahead with the amount of games it has to offer.

It's likely PS3 is better in overal grunt and that 360 has better looking textures or whatever, but games are the more attractive draw rather than any slight technical advantage PS3 might have.Xbox was clearly the most powerfull of all three machine last time but the rather feeble PS2 still easily won favour with most.This time the differences are just not noticable for most.

I was one of the many that bought into the ridculous notion that Sony actually might be telling the truth about PS3.It's a perfectly grand machine but falls stuidly short of the jaw dropping visuals we all saw at E3.Right now i wouldn't be anywhere near a 360 if PS3 had delivered on Sony's promise(well maybe for Halo i would), and so it amuses me each time i read news like this.

[QuackPot]

So you didn't hear the news that Epic is saying UT3 Ps3 is looking better than Gears of War?

Gears of War - arrived a year after the xbox 360 launch
UT3 Ps3 - arriving virtually a year after the Ps3 launch

Think about that one....

The God of War 2 graphics are on a whole new level compared to the release games when the Ps2 was launched. That came about due to 5 years of experience programming the Ps2.

Likewise, developers have 2 years experience with the xbox 360 and 1 year experience with the Ps3 yet there's no significant difference....even though developers have an extra year experience with the 360. The signs are not good for the xbox 360.

Four years from now, the graphics we are going to get from the Ps3 - a 5 year old piece of hardware likely selling for < US$200 - are simply going to be stunning. And there won't be anything the 360 can do....except maybe release a 720.

Think about that one....

[Martini]

Let me ask you this, how do you think UT 3 will look when it arrives on 360 next year ?

[picker332]

lol By the time this game coming out on console hl3 will come out on pc!
These games(orangebox)are kind of boring.The game tf is or was overhyped,It's boring and hl2 episode 2 is too too short,and portal is not a game it's a mod in my opinion.
+by then mgs4 and some other better games will be released so just forget this game ever existed,it's more like a S_H_I_T BOX,and a waist of money!
PEACE OUT!
PS:I'm a ps3 fan...

[WilliamRLBaker]

your just mad its delayed is all, Orange box is amazing its garnered higher scores then halo 3, it will get Game of the year (not bioshock) and all the games contained are good, Portal is amazing, TF2 is AWESOME, half life 2 is not my type of game, but episode 1 and 2 are great.

WAHH wahh wheres my rattle is what you sound like.

[sajj316]

Do you think that dev problems are the cause for the delay? Who says it is? Only those that post negatively. If released this year they will be fighting for the hard earned dollars of PS3 owners. If there are dev problems, its not Valves fault. They punted dev to EA. If EA is having problems, its understandable, given their previous work.

Its going to be interesting. What if the port turns out better than Valves? This is a spec of hope on this one. If its better, I'll get the PS3 version, if not I'll get the 360 version.

[Kill Crow]

Easy tiger - I'm a programmer too (though not a games programmer) so I mostly understand the technicalities involved. My point is not really about how hard or easy programmers find the PS3 to program for.

My point is based on what you said in the previous post regarding you PC. How is it that your PC with only 4 cores and nice graphics card only one year older than the 360 can make games look noticably better. Whereas the PS3 is also one year older, has 8 frikken cores and a nice graphics card and yet it can barely manage to make games look the same let alone noticably better than the 360.

You guys blame the programmers and the so called learning curve for writing games on multiple cores ... and yet even you say how much better your 4 core PC is at it - why isn't there a similar learning curve difficulty imposed here? The Learning curve for writing games on multicore hardware curve doesn't really take the amount of cores into account, rather it's that hardly any games were written in this way a up until a few years ago when single core's where increasing in power so much. So it's not about how many cores that makes it complicated (although clearly the more cores the more complicated it will be is) but rather It's more complicated simply because there are multiple cores be it 2, 3, 4 or 8 ... etc ...

Why aren't the PS3 games so much better with 8 cores? Take COD4 for example. Here the developers said that developing for PS3 was easy. Great. Then why couldn't they even get the PS3 version to look noticably better than the 360 version? The hard ware is almost 2 times as powerfull on paper and they didn't struggle to program against the architecture? So what is it?

EA and valve being in cahoots with m$ that's just a load of fannyboy rubbish.

The trend is for PS3 games to be delayed one after another rather than the 360 version, and they aren't noticably better?

I say lol again.

[N4GayFanturds]

After Sony lies to you f@gboys soo many times yet you still are so pathetically paranoid that you think MS is behind the delay? ROFL!!!!!!

This game wasn't being dev'd from the ground up ya know. Half-Life series is old & just needed to convert to PS3's notoriously EASY platform (j/k) It can't be Sony's fault for bad dev tools. It can't be P$3's archeticture lacking enough RAM. No way.

But I have to agree EA does suck (even though they aren't DEV'ing the game.

2008 looks good for y'all [email protected]'all have plenty of OLD titles to play.

[BlazeXXL]

COD4 ;)

[BlazeXXL]

Hey Xbox Fans (see what I did there? Yeh, I didn't say xbot, oops now I did, o well..) why are you in here? This is about the Playstation 3 version, your's already out, remember?

F4gs

[royalracoon]

Sony has a good machine with their PS3. I have been thinking about getting one ( I own a 360) but with reports like this I am really not sure. If this is just for the EU then whats to say it won't happen here?

Sorry Sony you will have to do better then that before you get my money.

[jackdoe]

You really can't blame Sony in this situation. They have provided ample tools in order to insure multiplatform games come out on time and come out perfectly. Look at CoD 4 and Assassin's Creed.

[royalracoon]

If this was the first time a PS3 game had been delayed then I would have to agree. However, there are to many games for them that has been pushed back. I understand it happens to all consoles but Sony seems to have more then their share. Or if it were always only one studio.

I will agree that PS 3 has games that are good and were not delayed but even their exclusives are pushed back, at least MSG4 which is suppose to be their killer title.

For what ever reason Sony is being plauged with these problems is going to hurt them and dropping the price isn't going to fix it.

[tudors]

I find there are a lot more reasons now to own a PS3 e.g. RAC and drakes, but until they overcome these problems I would not buy one just yet myself, i would feel like i had bought a half finished console because the quality is nowhere near as consistent as the Xbox-360.

[PimpHandHappy]

im reading some comments here and i can almost tell who are the children and who are the adults

Dragonballlicker is most def 13 and angry. He finds joy in negative news for the PS3.

This thread is good for one reason. Adding to my ignore list

on point: Im getting a Elite sometime in the new year for Mass Effect and if EA blows this game i will be buying it in about 4months. If they do blow this game i will never buy one more game from EA

[N4GayFanturds]

I'm glad my comment touched a nerve cause it shows your maturity level by your response (name calling is typical of little kids).

I guess you aren't old enough to watch Spiderman 3 yet so it's pissing you off.

EDIT: Don't PM me anymore you lil gay perv. BTW My avatar is OLDER than you. You'd know who he is if you were old enough.

[Grinchy]

Not a bad thing really. I have brought this month: cod4, r+c and wwe. I also have about eight or nine other games. If this came out this year, I dont think I would get it, due to the sheer number of quality games coming. Next month starts with uncharted, nevermind the rest of this month. If it isnt ready then that is it. I would rather have a bug free, problem free game that comes a while later. This coming in January might mean I end up picking this up. Also, am still rather worried about ea "handling" this one

[IQUITN4G]

Missing out on this and Mass Effect, you guys must cry yourselves to sleep.Say all you like but right now is a very desperate time for the loyal Sony fan.

I'm having a very happy Christmas this year what with said games and Mario Galaxy.Sod being a PS3 owner

[DRE1970]

ITS EUROPE

[PimpHandHappy]

and i can say i will be very happy with the games im getting or have bought already

little list for ya from a PS3 fan

Games:Own and play
Warhawk
COD4
Madden
RFOM
Tekken
Everyday SHooter
High Stakes Poker

Game:Own dont play
HS
GRAW
Motorstorm

Games:Will own soon
Assissins Creed
Uncharted
GT5 prolouge
R&C

thats plenty of games and if i can pull myself away from GT Prolouge 16 players online races i will buy Half Life

The holiday season doesnt end December 23rd ppl! It ends around the end of Jan.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

You aren't getting Rock Band?

Why don't you play Heavenly Sword? I mean, I know the replay value's sort of low, but why aren't you playing it? I freakin' LOVED that game!

Hey, if anyone knows of a good Wii game...and I mean ANY Wii game: could you contact me via private message. Any reason to keep my Wii would be much appreciated. I need some convincing to not sell it and buy Rock Band and Assassin's Creed.

[N4GayFanturds]

I sure see alot of shooters on your list.

Too bad all the multiplat games you have are better on 360 and offer a better online experience!

[Double-Edged]

Timed exclusive

[jaaz]

I bought it, played it and beat it on the PC.

The cake is not a lie: EA sucks.

[TheFatOne]

For all you xbox fanboys who keep saying valve is developing this game learn how to use search.

http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-...

"The reason for the PS3 build's late arrival, marketing director Doug Lombardi told Eurogamer, is simply that the EA UK team handling its development are on the other side of the ocean and are necessarily a bit behind the core Valve team's development."

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

You guys realize that they aren't having ANY trouble whatsoever. Valve has been a game developer longer than almost anyone. They KNOW how to make it run on the PS3. They just won't. Gabe Newell HATES the PS3.

I really just don't care at this point. Keep your freaking box, Gabe! PS3 users don't even want it anymore.

[DeZimatoR]

...and to EA.

CoD 4 is the only real example needed to show the poor MP games on PS3 in comparison to its 360 version are really only a fault od the devs, not the console...

I mean, if you want something well done, you can't just expect it to be easy to do.

And porting from an inferior console (although this is not the case, its just because its EA here :p) doesn't help either ;)

BTW, this is for Europe only as far as I see it...

[kss]

i honestly dont care anymore.

[PimpHandHappy]

and they havent made that many great games in the 6years they have been around.

[Ri0tSquad]

There getting more experience which = better games in the future.

[sleepbox]

Remember? EA only made a fraction of revenue off of PS3 vs a monstrous amt of revenue on 360...I really don't see why EA would do anything other than take their time with a product. Orange Box is ingenious btw.

And as MART said...enjoy your BR movies coming out on time.

[ForROME]

No sweat, its one game the rest this year will be out by xmas to meet sales for companies.

And sit on this burger boys for ever PS3 game delayed there are 1,500 dead Xbox 360s blinking like a xmas tree

[Funky Town_TX]

no game or developer is worthy of the PS3. You guys don't even buy the games you want from the developers that you place as high as Jesus. Look a Rachet, Lair, and HS what gives. Go ahead and boycott EA, and see what happens without there support. Look at the charts and see what I'm talking about. BTW, valve is the developer. This delay could have something to do with the crappy attach rate, other shooters coming out soon, and the fact that PS3 gamers in the US are not buying games.

[Maddens Raiders]

Cares? I don't.

[Maldread]

Delays usually means the developer can spend more time to polish the game, which i hope will happen in this case also.

Unfortunately EA isn`t the best developer, especially on the PS3, which they have proven on several occasions already. So even with added time, i`m not convinced the PS3 version will be worth the wait, because of EA `s limited development skills. I suspect they port rather than build for each platform. We`ll have to see how this version turns out, but i wouldn`t hold my breath

And for people saying it`s Valve that`s doing the port, check again. On IGN it stands EA UK/ Valve, but i think it`s mainly EA, as TheFatOne said above me.
http://ps3.ign.com/objects/...

[jackdoe]

Hm. No biggie. I'll just get Orange Box for $25 on the PC on Black Friday. Anyway, this delay doesn't reflect well on their "new policy" on bringing "quality" in a timely matter to the PS3. Looks like they are already hypocrites.

[Pain]

Half-life is Half-A-Chance i could care about.

[Jandre02]

There shouldnt be a reason why one developer can do it and another cant right?

Some developers are just higher class. Valve/EA are obviously not on that level and it shows. Add that on to all the issues that arose when the 360 version came out and you see that its a porting issue with bad devs.

Gabe, sorry buddy, but it seems that Valve just isnt good at console games. PC is the only place for you it seems.I think they should just cancel the game completely. Hes already stated its going to suck compared to the other versions, and its going to have to be pretty good to overcome UT3 (better dev) and Call of Duty 4 (better dev). Its pointless now.

[jackdoe]

Also, it is sh!t like this that help to explain why EA makes so small of an amount on the PS3. They pretty much alienate every PS3 owner moreso than 360 owners.

[Alpha_Gamer]

Hmmm, whatever. I have been playing it for a while now...

[wangdiddy82]

UT3 and haze are suppose to be out in DEC. and these 2 games will most likely be better than the orange box.. Orange box will get shawdowed out by UT3 and haze..

I could careless about this game as im not going to buy it.. It looks horrible but i know there are people who want it and valve and ea are screwing them.. Sony is not to blame as a lot of devs this past month have been prasing the ps3.. And COD4 the best looking game on the 360 looks the same on the ps3 and was released the same day. So its on the lazy a%% devs

[Enigma_2099]

... and they felt threatened, so they had to counter with something... I see. I'm beginning to see how this works...

[Mallow]

This will be fun to comment on

1. Oh no, orange box is delayed ? I guess that means I have to stick with CoD4, Haze, UTIII(It looks like it's coming out this year) and that's in FPS alone, damn we PS3 owners are screwed now.

2. The 360 Orange box sucks ass, this game was made for PC, not PS3 and not 360, TF2 is a 100% PC game, HL2 is a 80% PC game.

3. I love how these people run into these problems but others seem to have no problem whatsoever, lazy devs ? I think so.

[wil4hire]

EA is a joke..

Infinity Ward can do it, Ingognito can do it, Naughty Dog can do it, Factor Five can do it..

There is no longer a question of the PS3's hardware, Its EA not taking any time to actually LEARN how to program for a new system, which I feel is a slap in the face to all PS3 owners.

Yes the 360 is easy to develop for, because it is old technology, not that its bad, but is clear that development for it is simple because it isn't complex. That doesn't mean it cant push out great games that look good compared to the PC parts.. However, Half life & Bioshock isn't exactly warranting a super power computer like Crysis would for example.

While the ps3 on the other hand is having courses at ivy league colleges to develop for the Cell &* the ps3's architecture. MIT & Harvard are on that list.

I feel like if guys at Naughty Dog, Incognito, Midway, Epic, Insomnia, Factor Five, Infinity Ward, and SOny can do it...

EA should be able to..

I am sure development will speed up after this holiday when the ps3 sells 5 million more units, that will at least be 3 million less than the 360 units owned...

I must say though, EA is just spitting out crap left and right. Skate on the 360 is one of these examples. The single player is fine, But the multi player is utter crap. Don't say "multiplayer doesn't matter!" When games are knocked down pegs for not having it. EA just cares about $ at this point as far as im concerned.

$ is coming from the systems that have been out longer. Plain as that. I just hope someone like 2k sports can step up to the plate and deliver better games. EA is just getting too big. They treat their employees like slaves, especially in the games department.

[Ahhhh]

@unlimited - Oh, really? I guess I haven't played those games yet.
@cloud360-7th_account - Dumbass.

Who cares, right? PS3 fanboys don't like shooters, anyway.

[Premonition]

This doesnt really bother me much, I see it as beefing up the already beefed PS3 2008 year, we got some pretty good games at the end of 07 already, and we all know alot of people already have a hole in their wallet, so things like this arent that bad.

[Ps3Fanboy777]

Plus the game sucks anyhow... Any gamer has already played this. Can be found on bittorrent for free as well..

Enjoy..

www.torrentpond.com

[AuburnTiger]

EA must be working on something extra special for the PS3.

[zonetrooper5]

Firstly this sucks for PS3 owners (myself included) however I've got the PC version with all settings on high, 4xAA and its bloody awesome I must say.

Next year will be amazing for gamers like me. Just a list of games that I want in 2008, this includes Xbox 360 and PS3 games.

Killzone 2
MGS4
Halo Wars
Fable 2
Banjo Kazooie 3
Battlefield Bad Company
Alan Wake
Gears of War 2 (2008-2009)
Resistance Fall of Man 2 (2008-2009)
Motorstorm 2 (2008-2009)

[kornbeaner]

Games that get delayed are never gonna sell when they are multiplatform. By the tıme the game ıs released most of us know how bad or ın thıs case great the game ıs and have most lıkely already played ıt elsewhere or have spent the money on other great games along the way. If the release were 1 maybe 2 weeks apart then maybe they can get some sales but a whole 3 months after the case ıs absolutely ınsane. I know I speak for myself but by january I'm already waıtıng for my tax refund and by that tıme I rather just buıld me a rıg and get thıs game for the PC. Delays are never fun but to make a specıfıc crowd waıt three months for a game that ıs Great when ıt has been released already on 2 dıfferent platforms ıs askıng to much.

P.S. For all those that blame the PS3's so called "Hard" development as the reason, take your head out your asses. How many tımes do developers lıke Isomnıac, Naughty Dog, Infınıty Ward, Kush Games, and Bethsda, Nınja Thoery, Evolutıon Studıos, Epıc, have to prove you wrong. You reap what you sow. The Developers above have commıtted themselves to makıng the greatest possıble effort to makıng a great game on the PS3 and other platforms and the results speak for them themselves, EA has a track record of goıng for the easıst buck they can fınd and there for wıll not put fourth extreme effort to make sure that the game runs great on all platforms. If you dısagree wıth me then you must have lost some of your memory. Because all of theır products last generatıon where developed wıth the PS2 ın Mınd and there for the end product on the Xbox suffered ın the end.

[367 To Your Ass]

So far this has been the result of the difficult programming, release dates being pushed back......hell even MGS4.

I'm sure that later on (when ps3 dev kits have evolved) many of ps3 owners won't have to wait for a decent ps3 game.

[jack who]

have fun waiting.

[UltramanJ]

I really don't think many PS3 gamers were desperately waiting for it. Yeah, it's a fantastic game and a great value, but the bottem line is it's still coming. In the meantime, Uncharted is the biggest game coming to PS3, and need anyone be reminded that there's also CoD4, Lego Star Wars, Assasin's Creed, UT3, and many other titles? It's not like six months ago, when it was slim pickins. The PS3 library is expanding, and not only that, there's quite a few tasty PS2 morsels on the way like Samurai Showdown collection, SNk arcade classics collection, and the latest King of Fighters.

[djevolve]

glad I got a xbox360 got to love that you got good games and a good system.

[Jandre02]

especially sucks when it comes to having hardware failure. I bet your 3rd 360 is playing HL2 just fine right? Oh well, i guess ill just play UT3 with all the mods and better graphics instead :-(.

[HarryEtTubMan]

Another awesome game coming to the PS3 in the next couple of months. Guys, just ignored the jealous haters...this doesn't concern them. There are about 50 new games to pick up in november and december before January hits.

[tony]

they just want bring great quality in the game, that's all. not rushing a game, sometimes can be a good thing.

[J@D]

ehhh, tony....? We are talking about EA here nuff said.

[gw4k]

That game is still not out on the PS3? What is going on here?

[PS3 Limps on and on]

Everyone who wanted this game already bought it on the 360. Seriously, this game already did all the damage it was go do to PS3.

timed exlusives are exclusives. They might as well cancel it. Who cares, How many copies will it sell on PS3? 50k?

Non story in my view.

[m9105826]

Looks like someone at Sony stole Gabe Newell's economy sized box of Twinkies... and his form of revenge is delaying a 4 year-old game. I suppose I'd be upset if I hadn't already beaten Portal.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

To any developer, if you can't get the PS3 version out same day as the 360 version. Juct cancel it, it means your treating the PS3 development as an after thought.

And people aren't gonna wait, they will buy an XBOX 360 if the game is something they must have.

People can disagree with me, but they're wrong. I'm just saying the obvious. If they canceled it now, it would make no difference at all. This game will sell under 80k copies on PS3.

[etownone]

your wrong, totally wrong. Granted I have the 360 and orage box for it, but there are die hard PS fans that want and need a AAA game like this. It's a port, how much money do you really think they are wasting on bringing over a port? how many units doesn it actually have to sell to make a profit?....not much i'm guessing.

timed exclusives still sell....i know I'm getting UT3 whenever it comes out....and of course we'll all be getting MGS4 when that comes out for 360 ;)

[etownone]

sucks for PS3 fans, but i read so many posts as to scrap the project? cancel it? i hope these really aren't PS fans, because we are talking about one of the highest rated games of all time, highest on PC and 360 so far..... its 5 freakin games in one, one being a great multiplayer.

i mean, it bad enough you guys only have ONE game that scores above 90 on the metacritic (COD4), you guys should prey its a quality port, because this is what PS3 needs...AAA games.

[ErcsYou]

When i heard that valve passed this to EA to port , i knew it would be crap... just wait, the frame rate will drop and it will be super jaggie. Then all the Xboxers will celebrate because EA f#cked us again....ill pass

EA's revenue for the year was proof that Orange Box on PS3. They wont make any money because most of us PS3ers wont buy crap...I think the last EA game i bought was Road Rash 2 for my Genesis. I could care less about EA.....They have never made a AAA game in my book

[J@D]

I was thinking about pick up a copy but now I'm going 2 way until hit the $20.

[Gamingisfornerds]

Fortunately I have a 360 as well and got the 360 version. But for PS3 only owners this is really disturbing!

Don't let that hold you out on this one though, this package is amazing and definitely worth the wait. You do not want to miss out on this one!

[hadouken007]

MS and EA must be gay,cause they always sending us crap games and ports, and when u hear about one the other not to far behind, get it behind, so i say f**k the f**king f**kers, yea i said it!

[xg-ei8ht]

You should know the reason for the delay, Theres too many AAA titles coming ps3's way.

Nobody can deny it.

Uncharted Drakes Fortune, it'll get 10,10,10,10 accross the board.

Then you got UT3 yet another AAA across the board.

Cod4 already out AAA

Thats just a few:)

Point is, if they release now. They aint gonna get the sales.

IMO

[TheMART]

PS3 needs all the games it can get to sell 400 Euro/Dollar hardware.

So no, that's not the reason really. It's just delayed because the PS3 isn't the optimal choice for gaming. The 360 has way more AAA games then the PS3. That's a problem there. People that want to play Half Life 2 + Team Fortress 2 + Portal THIS Christmas together with giving themselves a new console for Holidays, can only get the 360 and the Orange Box 360 version.

That's just a missed chance for the PS3 again

[xplosneer]

Or PC?...

[Lonewolf1991]

never played half life, never will...

[TheMART]

"Martini

BTW: Orange Box is nothing special (not GOTY material IMO) - it looks dated not really on par with what 360 has to offer lately. Portal is the best game in there - wish it was longer."

Oh right. THat's why the total package has gotten a 96% average review score

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

That's not only based on Portal I can assure you. Also Team Fortress 2 and all that Half Life 2 goodness.

I am sorry for you missing out on it all probably.

[BLACKJACK VII]

(yawn) this is News ? Every PS3 game gets DELAYED.

[BloodySinner]

The waiting continues.

[xplosneer]

Is this using UT3 engine? Add another one to the list of UT3 games delayed on PS3 if so.

Darn EA.

@reply
ignorance? What? I saw the relation that games like GRAW2, Rainbow 6 Vegas, and others were delayed, and they all ran the UT3 engine. Then I asked a question based on that. Sorry for being incorrect once and a while.

[BloodySinner]

Wow, ignorance really is a disease.

... and no, the game does not run on the Unreal 3 engine.

[BloodySinner]

Man, don't sweat it. I was just shocked that someone could ask such a question.

[segasage]

when all these games come out around the same time Developers will fail to maximize their profits. That's one bad thing about good games coming out at the same time, your gonna have sluggish sales as opposed to games coming out during big shopping months.

It's good to space out the titles so they get a fare share of saturation from the fans.

nothing new here, well see if this helps sony, either way there might be fans that decide to buy a 360 for this game then they rather wait so it will be interesting with the sales after the end of the year.

I got a feeling a lot of gamers are gonna be sick of waiting and go another route...

[malingenie]

Did you notice that most of the posters are X-bots?
Ive never seen Xbox articles, but it seems these guys just love to troll into the PS3 articles! They spend so much time on Ps3 areas, it makes me wonder if they are thinking of buying one!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Not a good PS3 week huh? well hell ain't been a good PS3 gen.

[Crazyglues]

Does this really surprise anyone at this point? Just about every game that has come to the PS3 by third party developers gets pushed back, this should have not surprised anyone?

I saw this one coming a mile away. I just wish more companies could do what other companies like the team on Call Of Duty 4 did and ensure that the games release at the same time.

But I guess that was just a big fat dream.

[Snukadaman]

honestly folks...was ea the one that put in the memory...you give people the right tools they can make some good games...people honestly think its some sort of conspiracy...all these problems are sonys fault...lets not forget who built the ps3...get used too the problems until ps4 at least...

[CNIVEK]

6-12 months beyond when 360 gamers get to play. :)

[Ahhhh]

@CNIVEK - hah.. now that's not nice.

this is a bad time to be a PS3 only owner an a GOOD time to be an xBox 360 owner. Yeeehawwwwwww. Welp, off to play some Orange Box on my 360. But, don't worry PS3 fans.. I'll enjoy it for you. =]

[level 360]

They should call Sony's PS3 - the last-gen console, 'cause they always get it last on games, last on peripherals, last on price-cuts.
This is so infuriatingly frustrating!

[ThisIsWaiting]

PS3 loyalists are missing out ... TF2 is awesome ... so is portal.

[Baba1906]

it somehow doesnt bother me that much haha, there are too many games coming out this next months. so i can wait.