Jaffe: “60 bucks is a shit ton to ask” for games

GB writes : David Jaffe, Eat Sleep Play lead attempted to explain the reason for Twisted Metal delay as extra time required for “polish.”

[ArcFatalix]

we shall see jaffe

[hamoor]

He is somewhat right.
When I see full packed games that get you hours and hours of content being in the same price as 5 hours no online is bull$hit!

[CommonSense]

he might be right, but i still think it's more about the release date. i will actually consider buying this game new now that i know it's not coming out along side so many MUST HAVE games.

[karl]

its not that simple...

online games usually have a lot less work on them than just sp games.. and something 5 hours single players games...

its about how good it is than how many hours can u get out of it...

and lets face it... that price isnt just random
its the price we are willing to pay.. and they know it..

[NCAzrael]

At least someone acknowledged the fact that games are extremely expensive anymore. It wasn't all that long ago that we were paying $50, and prices dropped down to $40 or lower at a pretty decent rate. If it were up to some jackasses *cough*BobbyKotick*cough* we'd be paying a lot more.

[TBM]

So true, and its because of the high price that im strongly considering owning just one console when all 3 release their new systems. I can almost guarantee that prices are going to go up again by as little as $5 when they release unless the consoles are relatively cheap

[lelo]

"Jaffe: “60 bucks is a shit ton to ask” for games"

I agree with him. It is a lot of money for a game. In Portugal it's even more expensive, 65-70€ for a new X360/PS3 game on the store. Developers and distributors are shooting them selfs on the foot with this exorbitant prices.

Prices of games on the handheld and home consoles need to go way down... about 60-70% down. A home console game should be max 25-30€. I wouldn't mind paying more for a home console, if the "fuicking" games were cheaper. As for a AAA game digitally distributed, it should be max 20€.

And game developers wonder why mobile games sales are rising and console games sales are falling !!!

[NuclearDuke]

I do not agree with him. $60 is not alot of money to cash out on a video game. I have paid $0.10/hour for Heroes of Newerth over a period of one year. That is absolutely nothing for the amount of fun I have achieved in that game.

What IS a "shit ton of money" is the minor DLC packs games release afterwards. Keep games DLC-free and continue with a $60 pricing.

[rdgneoz3]

@NuclearDuke There's a difference between free DLC packs / fairly priced DLC, and stuff that should have been on the disk / over charging for DLC.

[dangert12]

Depends how you see it I've played killzone 2 for over 180 hours and if that was at an arcade i would of easily put in 50pence/£1 after another so i can now say i would of payed £100 knowing how good killzone is but then theirs alot of games at the same price that are truly appalling and should not be at the £40 as in the devs no its a rip off

[firemassacre]

very true what jaffe said, thats why my wallets taking a beating.
i simply cannot ( even though financially stressful) miss out on these games

1. uncharted 3
2. twisted metal ps3
3. littlebigplanet 2 (bought)
4. infamous 2 (bought)
5. portal 2 ( need to buy)
6. skyrim
7. dark souls
8. assassins creed revelations
9. batman arkham city
10.battlefield 3
11. resistance 3
12. gears of war 3
13. ico collection
14. starhawk.

renters

catherine
deus ex
splinter cell collection
motorstorm apacolypse
bioshock infinite
socom 4
la noir.
the new silent hill
alice 2

50/50 on saints row the third.

you have to make due with what you can afford.

[maniacmayhem]

With the amount of games you buy and rent i would seriously do Gamefly.

If you like the game you can buy it from them and they will charge you a used price and will send you the game box with all the contents inside.

[Bolts]

I would rent more than half of those games from Gamefly. If you have to have them, buy them used...or if they're multiplats and you have a gaming PC buy them on Steam.

I save a ton of money just by buying multiplats on Steam alone.

[NCAzrael]

I'm glad that my list of must buy games isn't that long. This year I'm looking at Skyrim, Deus Ex, RAGE, BF3, NHL12, AC:R, and Uncharted 3 for my must buy. Oh, and The Old Republic if it actually releases this year. I'm too jaded on Need for Speed to buy The Run without renting it first. Granted, if it were Criterion making this one I'd buy it on day one.

Honestly, though, given how Skyrim is shaping up, come November 11th I highly doubt my PS3 or 360 will see any use for months, and the chance of anything else being ran on my PC is extremely unlikely.

[CommonSense]

deus ex is a must have in just a few more days

[Merivigian]

You could buy a few games with the money you'd be wasting renting. LA Noire btw is really satisfying if you're into the detective/CSI tv shows as well.

[boyzilla]

except every case in la noire is the same thing... over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again

[Kran]

The UK says hi, where we're spending £40. We're spending $5 extra ¬¬

[Flashwave_UK]

yeah fkn suks

[NovusTerminus]

But is it as hard to find a job in the UK? I am having a time over here, no one is hiring!

[Gamewank]

The job market is pretty screwed here too. It's a global recession, everyone's feeling it.

[Kran]

Hell yes it's hard. Full time jobs. Part time jobs, even asking money from your parents can be hard because of their jobs and their pay.

[NovusTerminus]

Ah. I kinda figured it would be...

[hamoor]

Amen to that!
We've been screwed over prices since forever!

[LawlessSXE]

Try being in Australia... $100 local dollars, so about $45 over the American price.

[Croash]

France says hi. I'm supposed to pay €70 (sometimes it will be €60, woohoo) for brand new PS3 games, which is the equivalent of $100.

I like how I saw AC : Brotherhood still priced at €70 last April only to find it priced at £23 at a GAME Store, gotta love their Spring Sale.

UK has better deals, that's for sure. Even GAME stores in France want to take away all your money. The best offer I saw there was L.A. Noire for €50.

Anyway, ever since I went to London, I've decided never to buy a game again from France. If my own country wants to suck all my money away while giving me games that are only dubbed in French (that's rare, but it can still happen...and it's painful), I guess I can only give it the middle finger.

And of course, there are ever better deals in the USA. I guess I'd better start considering that thing called "import".

----

On topic:
I really hope Jaffe delivers the best Twisted Metal experience possible. I have never played a TM game before, but it sure does look like a hell lot of fun.

Looking at how God of War succeeded, I simply can't believe that failure is a possible outcome for a game created by such a talented guy. It's high time Eat Sleep Play showed what they're really capable of. The $60 price tag will certainly be justified.

[DragonKnight]

Your government's VAT says hi. You pay more because your government has it set up that way, simple as that.

[Sprudling]

I think most europeans know that, but that doesn't explain why they don't complain about the prices, yet americans constantly do.

All the price whine articles have been from the US, the place in the world with the cheapest games... I guess your economy really is fucked up.

[DragonKnight]

Don't you love the game of assumption? I know I do, because then when someone claims that I'm an American, I get to say "that's incorrect, I'm Canadian" and then have a chuckle at internet ignorance. *chuckle*

"that doesn't explain why they don't complain about the prices."

Where the hell have you been? This site is rife with complaints about European pricing, release dates, offerings, etc... You must live in Bizarro World where everything is opposite.

[JellyJelly]

Then sell your game for $39.99. What's stopping you, Jaffe?

[Bolts]

Sony is what stopping him.

[NCAzrael]

Probably his publisher. Eat Sleep Play just makes the games, Sony packages, ships, and decides the MSRP.

[Ninver]

Some games are worth less than others /fact

[Merivigian]

True. Naughty Bear /= Mass Effect 3. I truly believe that some games should be priced based on content, etc. But the only reason I don't complain about the $60 mark is I'm afraid that game developers would take control of that "price by quality" over the edge and some how make a game priced higher than $60.

[Merivigian]

It seems like a lot of people think this. Todd Howard, director of Skyrim, believes games should be priced at about $19-$29.

Source:
http://thelazygeeks.com/201...

[cannon8800]

A ton of shit would smell so bad.

[trollkill]

Yeah for recycled trash like the new COD hell yes especially since there reusing the same engine. On top of tht thy make gaziilions an come with this elite crap looking for more money smh A game like demon souls I paid 30 for and is worth more thn 60

[DragonKnight]

"A game like demon souls I paid 30 for and is worth more thn 60."

^^This

I'd say that for the amount of time I've put into Demon's Souls, it's easily worth more than $60. It's a bargain at that price. Game is endless fun. You constantly find new ways of doing the same stuff over and over, the online is tremendously fulfilling, it's just an amazing game. Can't wait for Dark Souls.

[trollkill]

Add me then bcus i will be getting dark souls day one and i still play demon souls regurlarly. My sn is kenjovani. And yes Demon Souls was the gem i found on sale tht was worth so much more!!!! Im so upset they never came out with dlc for it especially since you knw in the game there is still one pillar left tht is broken. Thy could have done so much with tht dlc and made an epic ending and boss battle!!!!!!

[DragonKnight]

Frickin' disagree fairy is a moron. I would have loved to explore the land of the giants that starts off in Pure Black World Tendency. I'm sure that level would have been the most challenging of all, and likely would have inspired a whole new upgrade branch for weapons, or at least be the place where you can get the most Greystone for Strength builds.

Can't wait to see the unique weapons in Dark Souls.

[Inside_out]

.
Everybody knows it...the same thing happened to the music industry and anywhere in life when the cost gets out of control, doesn't matter if you are talking about cars, houses, cigarettes or games, there is a push back.

In gaming the push back is in the huge demand for silly .99 cent apps and arcade game that cost $10-15. Even there the greedy animals like EA, Sony, Niny, Activision and M$ have started to cannibalize those games and dictate a higher price. These guys don't get it but they will, when it's too late. They are making LITERALLY Billions in profits but they don't care. The dumb, delusional fanboys who defend these monsters are the extreme minority and the industry is, sadly, moving away from fully featured games because of this greed.

Nintendo had it right this gen, philosophically speaking anyways, " more fun for less money "...unfortunately, Niny blew it, as have all of them and now the gaming community is fighting back by ignoring most games and buy just the bigger titles.

If they charged reasonable prices in the $19.99 single player and $29.99 multi-player, people would be more inclined to buy in. Their profit margins are crazy. Who remembers when CD's went as high as $30 for 7-8 songs...lol...Burn baby, BURN. :)

[trollkill]

I agree with every word you said and yes their profit margins are crazy and their greed is ridiculous!!!! I wish gaming fans would stick together on all consoles and boycott COD games as a whole and not purchase it to send a message!!!! Message being you cant just keep churning out recycled stuff and over pricing us on the game, dlc maps and now elite (yes its an option but many of these features games already have without paying). And Activision isnt the only culprit in this but in any case i wont be buying COD anymore bcus of this and have never bought dlc maps.

[Amaterasu5]

depends on the game

[TheLastGuardian]

Twisted Metal is gonna be worth way more than $60 to me. I can see myself playing the multiplayer for at least 3 years. $60 is nothing to ask for the game of my dreams.

[ChiVoLok0]

I remember in the PSOne days where new released games costed $30 (us). Now price drops cost $30.