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Why Online Passes Are The Wrong Approach

*This opinion piece does not represent Gamers Leak's view on the matter, it is the opinion of the writer who wrote it.* Gamers Leak: There are many gamers, including myself, that have had it up to their eyeballs with online passes. Many blame Electronic Arts for introducing this and while they did make it mainstream, from my understanding, online passes have existed as early as White Knight Chronicles on the PlayStation 3.

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thebudgetgamer4690d ago

i'm not to upset about the online passes as i am the idea of games being locked to one console.

Letros4689d ago

Even console games can't escape the industries draconian DRM.

Tazz4689d ago

But you know what sucks? When you have a big family and only one gamertag in the household can play Mortal Kombat online.

JellyJelly4689d ago

That's just wrong. You should at least be able to assign a certain amount of gamertags to your console so that all of them can use online. I also think the online passes are just flat out greedy.

dabri54689d ago

I thought they were locked to an online profile, not console. The idea is that your profile/id is locked to the pass, like dlc or and arcade/psn game.

Also, used game retailers have already lowered the price of games that use these passes to compensate for what the gamer would need to pay to play online.

This method is probably the best most unobtrusive way of getting a cut of used game sales which developers and publishers see nothing from but still have to support because of maintaining servers.

Dart894690d ago (Edited 4690d ago )

Let them have this it will eventually come back and bite them in the @$$ after people refuse to buy their games do to the online passes.Then hopefully they'll open they're eyes.

@Yi yea it seems gaming is going down to a hell hole.Is it to much if i wish for a video game market crash like the one in 1983??After all they need us more than we need them.

Yi-Long4690d ago

... the problem is that most gaming customers actually don';t frequent sites like these where they find out about this kinda info before they decide to buy it...

... so they just find out when they get home, they find their code in their case, frown a bit, enter the code, and don't really give it a second thought...

... until someone else in the family wants to play online with their own account, or they want to play the game at a friend's house, or loan it out, or sell it, or whatever...

... only then will the realise what's up...

... but even after all that happens, they probably still won't start turning up at sites like these to get informed, so they'll keep getting duped.

Personally ofcourse, as with DLC-milking/scamming, I will just boycot these games as much as I possibly can.

denero14689d ago

it truly is sad they can't play the victim then turn around and make half finished games with hours worth of dlc that should have been in the game to begin with greedy devs are going to hurt the industry -_-

thetest4689d ago (Edited 4689d ago )

What is this BS? PC gamers have NEVER complained about Steam and actually OWNING the games you bought. You CANNOT give it away. It's being cheap.

Ranshak4689d ago

PC gamers get games alot cheaper too. Personally buy most of my games during steam discounts, Most new games cost about 10-15usd, its a luxury console gamers dont have.

Console gamers most of the time have to pay premium prices for their games, you barely see console games below 40usd even after being out for months. Hence i do agree this is abit harsh on them.

Vega754689d ago (Edited 4689d ago )

These article are kind of pointless. People are not going to boycott these companies and these games. So more and more publisher and dev's will continue to do this and use the excuse that use games sells are hurting them. So let move on and stop complaining about this if we as consumers are not going to do anything about it.

I'm not supporting any dev or pub that uses this method and will continue to buy whatever game weather it be new or used.

Tazz4689d ago

Our author clearly stated that "I do not wish to encourage boycotts". This article is an opinion piece, so while it may be pointless to you, other people enjoy reading the opinions of other fellow gamers.

Vega754689d ago (Edited 4689d ago )

you could read all these articles and opinion peices you want until your blue in the face. it's not going to change anything unless people stop buying these games and take a stand. i see more people on this and many other site say dev's and publishers are hurting because of used games. but publisher turn around and post millions in profit because of the online pass.

i don't support the online pass. but i'm not going to go into every thread to say the samething knowing that i'm just one person and many other have already excepted the pass as a good thing when it's not. i agree with a lot of gamers who voiced their opinion on the matter. but how many of them will turn around and buy these games which defeats the puppose of boitching and moaning.

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Sony shares big new PS Plus stat, but not the one we want to see

PlayStation Plus has improved the split of PS4 and PS5 players on its priciest tiers, but Sony continues to hide total subscriber numbers.

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mandf3d ago

lol acting like it’s equivalent to ms numbers

Mr Logic3d ago

Uh...They're definitely not equivalent.

"Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service now has 34 million subscribers."

"the total number of PS Plus subscribers across all tiers was 47.4 million"

darthv723d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN.

bloop3d ago

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is Darth.

darthv722d ago

^^it's not supposed to be bloop.... it's just an interesting observation.

Einhander19722d ago

darthv72

"That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN."

Have you ever heard of a PC before? I hear they are pretty popular.

fr0sty2d ago

MS started lumping gold subscribers in with those GP numbers... keep in mind.

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shinoff21833d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What. Definitely more os plus subscribers but that makes sense due to actual console sales

Darth the difference between the bases are huge your right but you gotta think. Ps players buy more games, where as the Xbox base relies on gamepass for their gaming. So it makes perfect sense

darthv723d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What makes perfect sense though? You say PS players buy more games... so then logically there should be more PS+ subscribers given the increased number of online multiplayer games in the PS4 generation alone. The PS4 was the first time that + was required for online play much like Gold was for 360 users.

Keep in mind we are talking subscribers, not simply XB/PS users. I assume you meant to say offline single player games, which is most likely true as well. That gen also saw a significant increase in games with an online component comparted to the previous gen.

victorMaje3d ago

I for one will be going back to essential at the next renewal. When I feel a game is good & right up my alley, I’ll check trusted reviews & just buy it.

jznrpg3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I have the top tier until 2028 as they gave me a massive discount for all the years I had left but I’ll most likely go to essential as well. I buy my games but my kids do use the service occasionally. They do prefer to own their games as well since any game can leave the rental service at some point and they don’t like that idea. They mostly use it to demo games then ask me to buy games if they really like it.

RedDevils2d ago

For me, I will cancel it all together but unfortunately I still have it till 2030 lol

meganick3d ago

I would like to see Sony add a fourth tier of PS Plus for people who just want to be able to play games online without any of the perks like monthly games, store discounts, or anything like that, and it should cost $20 annually, $30 maximum. There’s no way I’m paying $80 just to play games online. Even the original $60 fee was too much, and I would often wait for sales to re-up my subscription.

P_Bomb2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Essential is too expensive, I agree. We’ve got one Essential and one Premium sub. Dropping the Premium when it expires.

gamerz2d ago

Just let my subscription lapse for the first time since 2010. Will sub again every now and then for a month or so to access my old ps+ games but for me it's the end of an era.

DivineHand1252d ago

Let those numbers continue to drop because it is now too expensive. $80 per year just to play online. I noticed they didn't offer any discounts on the subscription or controllers during this year's days of play for the first time in many years and they will feel it when people choose not to renew.

My subscription will lapse next month and it will stay that way until further notice.

KevtheDuff2d ago

There were savings on subs and controllers here in the UK? I bought a controller yesterday in the sale..
It would be weird if those deals were not in other territories too?

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Cheat Provider To Pay Call Of Duty Creator Activision Nearly $15M In Damages

Cheat software provider EngineOwning will pay Call of Duty creator Activision nearly $15 million in damages and legal fees.

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Jin_Sakai4d ago

Cheat providers for competitive games should be illegal.

Rynxie3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

This is what developers and manufacturers should do. I know going after cheat devices/makers is a cat and mouse game, and cost money. However, they can get that money back by sueing these manufacturers of cheat devices. Take a page from Nintendo's playbook.

Garethvk4d ago

We can hope. Especially if the rumors of Cillian Murphy and Alaska are true.

RaidenBlack4d ago

That'd be too good if true.
But Henderson also leaked that next Far Cry setting was targeting some asian island.

jznrpg3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

With their shitty practices I really don’t care what Ubisoft announces until they reverse their course

Relientk774d ago

Assassin's Creed Hexe is what I wanna hear about most. Yes I wanna play as a witch with magic during the 16 century witch trials in Germany (as per rumors). Sign me up

Huey_My_D_Long4d ago

Yeah, Hex sounds amazing to me as well, and I've been playing since AC 1. I'm real curious how are they gonna fit the magic into the game, maybe in similar way the dlc introduced gods and god abilities. but I love that I've heard its gonna have a horror vibe.

Garethvk4d ago

Hopefully it is full of good stuff.

RaidenBlack4d ago

The studio just completed Avatar and busy with Outlaws and also got their F2P Heartland cancelled ... IMO, Division 3 will surely come but it'll take more time.
I'd be most thrilled if Ubisoft greenlits a sequel or at least a remake of the studio's first game i.e World in Conflict

anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I would get hyped about Hexe. If the rumors are true, UBI might get a gold edition purchase out of me.

Demetrius4d ago

Hopefully gameplay of ac shadows or star wars outlaws, if they finally announce the new far cry I'm definitely getting that, far cry still fun af and gorgeous games, yeah ubisoft has their faults but atleast they're not copying souls like games their titles still have identity

neutralgamer19924d ago

We will definitely see gameplay for star wars and AC. Farcry let's see

OtterX4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I'm going to be an outlier amongst the rest of these comments.... give us something NEW! I'm pretty burnt out on Ubisoft franchises, unless you're giving us a new Rayman game!

*Edit - imagine what they could do with a Rayman 3D game in this day and age. I say now is the time to revisit the series.

RaidenBlack4d ago

Would love a AAA PoP too or a back to roots Ghost Recon (none of the open world stuff)

MeatyUrologist4d ago

Hell yes! Ghost recon in the style of the originals with real consequences, permanent and all!

jznrpg3d ago

I love Rayman, played it a ton with my kids years ago. But Ubisoft puts dumb crap in their games. MTs , paid tiers , always online requirement for single player games and as they stand now I could see them doing that to Rayman

OtterX3d ago

Yea unfortunately, you're right. :'(

Garethvk4d ago

Beyond Good and Evil 2: It is coming really; we promise.

OtterX4d ago

Their microtransaction monetization scheme on it will lie somewhere between good and evil!

Haha JK.... it'll be completely evil. 🙃

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