PSthree a More Likely Announcement at GamesCom?

Gadgehit writes: "In early July there was a rumour regarding PlayStation 4 production by a Taiwanese hardware manufacturer. The story suggested that Sony were already developing the PlayStation 4 and wanted to have 20 million units ready for the end of 2012. So what’s happened to the PSthree?"

[IronFist]

I think it'll have a fliptop, the other two have.

[Lelouch]

That would just make it look tacky, keep the slide-in disc tray!

[jwk94]

If it gets YLOD can't you just press the eject button to remove the disc? I was under the assumption that the YLOD just prevents the OS from operating but you can still remove and insert discs...

[Disccordia]

Hold down the eject button when you turn it on and it will put the fans on hyper mode and force the disc out.

BTW - I can't see another model happening just yet. Haven't they just redesigned the current model to be lighter and use less power?

[MaxXAttaxX]

The slim.

[I_find_it_funny]

this story is bull..

[Motorola]

@Disccordia Nope that didn't work for me. Its only on older models. If you get the disc stuck and u have the YLOD on certain models, your out of luck. I know for sure.

[phinch]

Cheaper though for both us and Sony,and personally i dont look at my ps3 while i play my games i look at the screen which will apear exactly the same

[lalalala]

@1.1.5 - It's a concept, not a real thing, and nobody said it was real...

[zeeshan]

I was kind of surprised to see Sony not announce a price cut last E3. Not sure about PS3's development cost but I am sure that SONY is cooking a model that is literally hacking proof. So we could see a new model perhaps with larger hard drive and one that's hacking proof however, I'd love to see Sony reduce the PS3 cost to $199. That will totally rock the gaming world!!

[NarooN]

@Disccordia: Nope, that only works on certain models. My PS3 that got the YLOD was a second-gen 80GB BC PS3, so I couldn't do shit about the game that was inside. I tried every trick in the book, nothing worked, so I was fucked. When you get the YLOD, you really can't do anything.

[Bull5hifT]

I got my Motorstorm game out with a pair of tweezers easy , they were like weird tweezers my mom had, i cant quite explain them, also did it on my Def Jam: ICON, not sure if that game deserved to be saved

[ian72]

@ all above on about ejecting a disc when you have YLOD.
I got YLOD and couldn't eject the disc whatever I tried. I called customer services for help but they couldn't tell me how to retrieve my disc, so had to send PS3 to Sony for a refurb and disc back.
The problem I had was PS3 wouldn't turn on at all, just got yellow then red light, and holding eject button etc did nothing. The system just shut down totally and nothing worked.
I'm just saying to people that sometimes when YLOD occurs, your disc may be stuck.
The other two times I got YLOD my discs would eject, but not the last time.
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[OpenGL]

Yeah, early PS3s had the fan test mode which could be used to eject the disc (I was lucky when my PS3 from 2007 got the YLOD) but not all fat PS3s supported it.

[hazbaz]

Guys, I tried this method. And it actually worked. I was skeptic at first. It will give you some time to do whatever before it YLOD again.

[dlohnug]

When my 80GB Ps3 YLOD'ed, I had the GoW Collection inside. SO I manually took apart my used PS3, no warranty, and took the disc out, at which point I threw out that junk and got a slim the day after.

It was rather fun taking apart a PS3, I had no idea what I was looking at though, not similar to my PC, and I built that.

[kreate]

guys. i am a victim of a ylod ps3. just use the towel trick and temporarily revive it. eject the disk and deactivate ur system. than get ur game saves out. than go to gamestop and sell it.

[InactiveUser]

I was hoping the CECH-3000 series would be a slimmer model closer to the PS2 slim's size. But they've already come out with the CECH-3000 series just recently and it's the same outer size. What would they call this? A CECH-4000 already?

I was thinking they'd announce a slimmer CECH-3000 series at E3 2012 with a $199 price point for holiday 2012 dominance.

"Hold down the eject button when you turn it on and it will put the fans on hyper mode and force the disc out."

No, the fan test doesn't always work. I've had YLODs with games irretrievable about 2-3 times. I've had 4 YLODs. The last one, I finally gave in to the warning signs and didn't playing any disk based games for a few days, until it completely crapped out.

[jadenkorri]

my 60 gig launch ps3 wont even turn on, i turned off the switch in the back left it off for awhile then switched it back on, then held the eject button, my disc came out but the ps3 was dead. The thing don't come on at all, no lights, but maybe the leds are broken, but they were fine days before and nothing comes on the screen.

ON topic, that is a horrible design, i understand its a rendered concept. But look at the disc size, is this thing taking records.

[AAACE5]

That would look tacky, but a slim Ps3 for under $200 would make a killing in sales!

[DeadlyFire]

2nd PS2 revision was after the PS3 was released. So I don't expect to see PS3 revision 2 until around PS4 release or later.

[Misterhbk]

I'd buy an even slimmer slim in a heartbeat!

[dirthurts]

Why keep buying the same hardware over and over? It's not like they're getting any new features...
If anything they're losing them.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

I thought the PS3 slim is the PSthree?

notice how they changed the branding from PLAYSTATION 3 to PS3 when the slim came out.

I dont think they can make it that much smaller yet anyways. Mine may be only the first version of the slim, but it gets pretty hot on the bottom. I just dont see how they could produce a super small and cool version yet.

[subtenko]

This is the same as the rumor that they were gonna make the ps2 even smaller than the ps2 slim, look how that turned out...didnt happen.

I guess this would make the ps3 even more portable tho...but we're good now

Agree or Disagree if you Agree

[motherboop]

PS2 9000X series would have been smaller than the current PS2 slim if it weren't for the internal power supply. Many people don't realize there were indeed 3 hardware revisions with PS2 since 7000X & 9000X slim models look similar cosmetically.

[Andronix]

Remember two years ago the PS3 Slim was launched at Gamescon? In the months prior to that there were all sorts of leaks from the far east including pictures of the console, box pictures, new branding etc. But there have been no such leaks. Maybe next year. But it would be nice!

[dude_meister]

i like the impreza gaffy, looks very realistic, the slim design is good too, but lighting is a little off.

[gaffyh]

I prefer doing cars usually, but do one of these occasionally.

[StarWolf]

they should release ps4 by the end of this summer to catch everyone off guard

[Baka-akaB]

including their own game developers ? lol

[NoobJobz]

without even announcing it? there just gonna ship them out to stores and hope people notice?

[Tru_Ray]

Uhh, they might want to inform their business partners at a minimum...

[Ray J]

naa, informing business partners is overrated. just let 'em launch it at midnight and not tell anyone...

;)

[maniacmayhem]

Go the whole Sega Saturn route...hmmmm yea i dont think sony will do that.

[Ray J]

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[Agent_hitman]

SONY wants to reduce the cost of PS3 that's why they are releasing a new PS3 models.. so that it can help to boost sales, even in the last phase of this generation before we proceed to ps4

[Neko_Mega]

Lame, why does everyone think PS4 will be out sooner then it should? Sony is doing really good with PS3 and the less thing they need it a new system plus PSVita.

Maybe next year we might hear about it or it might come out.

[bebojet]

Agreed. SONY is not dumb enough to have their consumer having to decide whether to buy a Vita or PS4. At the earliest we might hear about the PS4 on E3 2012 but I'm in no rush. There are still plenty of exclusives I haven't played yet and the list keeps growing.

[killerhog]

because most are misinformed on whats actually happening. so you tell them neko, bubble for you. how you been by the way? ill pm you later

[juggulator]

The slim is the PSthree. Just look on the top of the console, it says plain as day 'PS3'.

[Jocosta]

If they do come out with a new model, can people then use the replacement factor in the sales arguments?

[RAmar101]

I'm longing for them to release a ps3 budget model, no wifi, standard disc loader or flip-top, external psu

Possibly a 60gig hdd

Budget model can sell alongside normal slim

[etowntwo]

Yeah, I'm been saying the same thing for a long time.

A budget model that retails for $199.
If people want WiFi or more hard drive space, just sell them as accessories like MS does.

[HOSe]

dumb

[kane_1371]

That's not their way of doing things.
We all know it.
Their last budget models were 40 and 20 GB models which weren't very cheap...
Still, a really slim PS3 would be nice :D

[wenaldy]

You are cheap bastard.. Get a job..

[Death]

Ideally they want to sell their system for a profit. By keeping the "premium" features they can justify a higher retail while production costs go down. If a "cheap" unit was produced, it would cut into the sales of the more profitable console. This is exactly why the $100 less expensive 20 gig was cut. The profit margin on the 60 was much higher so they killed the 20 "due to consumer demand".

-Death

[mastiffchild]

IDK about that. In the UK you couldn't get a 60gig while there were 20 and 40gig models available everywhere. If they discontinued making the EU 60 after the 20 it definitely wasn't LONG afterwards , if at all, and if not then they were right about people not buying the twenty as, like I said, you could still get them after the 60s had gone from the shops.

makes sense to sell the most profitable models but the 60 with all the USB ports and card readers and BC was always the most expensive, by a long way, model to make, wasn't it? In the UK even the early 20gig,IIRC, had fewer ports etc.

I'm not saying you're wrong but my experience would suggest a more muddled picture in rality even if Sony did exactly as you say in principal.

[Death]

The retail price difference between the 60 and 20 was $100. The cost difference to produce was about $30. Sony was losing almost $70 more on every 20 gig they sold. You couldnt find a 20 in the states for months before the announcement that they were pulling them off the market.

As far as the European market goes, if memory serves me right, didn't they get shafted from the get go?

-Death

[firemassacre]

SEXY

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

Sony released the newly designed PS3 as part of a re-branding move due to the fact that the launch PS3 model didn't have the original PlayStation feel and branding on it apart from the PS logo.

The designer of the both the original PS3 and the New PS3 said this himself and therefore a re-branding (basically going back to their routes) was needed.

To be honest I was pleased that Sony did this.

[rustyspoon80]

Sorry, but what? The original PS3 has a whacking great PLAYSTATION 3 written on the top in silver. The new slim model only has PS3, in the same colour as the body.

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

Yeah PlayStation 3 written in the Spiderman font isn't called sticking to the brands image. The new model follows the original PlayStation font.

http://www.10people.co.uk/w...

This is the PS2 one:
http://www.uploadimages4fre...

This is the PS1:
http://playstationfever.fil...

and this is the PSP and Vitas:
http://upload.wikimedia.org...
http://asia.playstation.com...

The new PS3 font is more rounded to show progress or advancement according to the designer. The PS3 with the Spiderman font was the odd one out and it's always felt like that to me and many others.

I think from now on all future PlayStation product will follow the new rounded font over the straight rigid font.

[DaTruth]

What you say is true, but I always preferred the Spiderman font! I just thought it looked really nice and went well with the chrome trim on my 60 gig! Precious 60 gig RIP.

They also said that the Spiderman font was hard to read on billboards and advertisements from a distance!

[Death]

Sony released the slim PS3 to cut costs. The slim also lacked quite a few features of the launch consoles. This was a 110% cost cutting thing and had absolutely nothing to do with the aesthetics. Sony could have easily changed the font without producing a cheaper console.

Microsoft needed to distance themselves from their launch hardware. The irony is today's 360 has evolved with more built in features and durability while Sony has stripped down their console more with every new SKU. I've never understood how PS3 fans applaud each time they lose a feature, but each to their own I guess. Personally I'm still happy with my 60 gig.

-Death

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

You don't need to redesign to cut costs, and besides the motherboard was only reorganised by the looks hence why the new PS3 is roughly the same size, I think the cost cutting came in the removal of many other hardware component like USB ports, touch sensors etc.

They also used it as an opportunity to re-brand the PS3 itself and this is what Sony said several times themselves.

The very person who designed both the PS3 and new PS3 said the original PS3 felt too different which is %100 true imho.

EDIT: I agree with the re-branding but not the stripping of features.

[Death]

The piano black finish of the original console alone took more time/care to produce. It was a much more complex console that contained both the PS3 and most of the PS2 components. That is why it had full backwards comparability, 4 USB ports, multiple memory card readers, and the ability to run other OS. These were all removed with the slim PS3.

Nothing new has been introduced to the hardware.

-Death

[pcz]

jesus christ, how many sku's do they want?

[cyclonus007]

MS releases at least 2 new sku's every year. We still have the Gears, CoD, and Star Wars Kinect skus to look forward to this year...

[Oldman100]

I see the current ps3 slim as more of a reboot or re-brand than an actual downsize of the console. It's actually a bit wider than the original ps3. I'd like to see the ps3 around the size of the ps2 slim.

If sony can combine both the cell and rsx together in one chip they wouldn't need as many parts for cooling and it would use less power, which would also result in a smaller motherboard and smaller power supply. They could shrink the console even further and it would be less expensive to make.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

I dont think it will ever get down to that size. I remember my fat PS2 not getting very hot. I have the first model PS3 slim and the bottom of it gets really hot. Make it that small and it will melt. maybe in the future, but I think that it would be along ways off and that it would not be that small.

Who knows tho, in the future they could have a tiny one, but I think that if that does happen it wont be any time soon.

[zero_cool]

The next playstation console isn't going to come out in 2012 what a crock of shit!Sony isn't going to over shadow the playstation 3's hardware & software sales momentum because that would be business suicide considering playstation vita is on it's way soon!

[RevXM]

I dont know how I would feel about this.
They just recently redesigned it and it should be enough right?

They did like 3-4 redesigns with the psp, but at this time in the ps3 lifecycle I much rather want them to spend their resources on PS4 and practical research to make the PS4 better ( at this point they should be working already on its cooling capabilities and design.)

[Petro]

Actually when they make "redesigns" they save money, as they use smaller and cheaper to manufacture components. And this money can then be spent on your precious PS4 R&D :P

I have personally waited for the day the real PS3 Slim comes out. Hopefully rumors are true, as I want another PlayStation for my other TV.

[RevXM]

Yeah they can, but they just redesigned the ps3, like 2-3 years ago, it can bloody wait IMO.

Now they should focus on PS4.
they can redesign ps3 later when the Ps4 is out.

And Resources isnt just Money.
= Money + employes + tools + time etc.

[zero_cool]

im more inclined to believe the playstation 3 hardware will go through another size & price reduction again before we'll see a next gen playstation console next year.

[maniacmayhem]

Still rockin my 60 gig fat!

[kreate]

hook it up

[frankymv]

wow, my 60 gig died 3 years ago

[El_Colombiano]

Hell yeah my 60GB is a monster.

[btk]

My fat model had a YLOD - fixed three times - now dead. The slim model is going strong. In my house the machine gets played +/- 12 hours a day.

I will go for a slimmer PS3 model. Really like having 2 PS3's otherwise I don't get to play.

[Kee]

How is a PSthree different from a PS3?

[Bull5hifT]

Gimmi a PS3 Super Slim Flat that can play PS2 games and can screw on a mini 1080p Monitor on top like my nephews PSONE with a Power Source that can mount under it .... And you can have my wallet and whatever is in my Pretend SAFE

[frankymv]

So a PS3 "three" ? I highly, highly doubt it. Sony can already make the PS3 slim cheap enough with the current design. No need for an even slimmer design.

[IRetrouk]

im sure this is bogus, they just anounced the 320gig slim that uses less power, three will be a price cut but i dont see a redesign.

[L6RD7BLU3]

that shi* looks stupid

[Darkseeker]

The only actual thing that will be announced at Gamescom is a price drop. 199 euros for europe and 199$ or 249$ for North America.

[BIGBOSS08]

ps3 is yet to see its biggest sales surge. its STILL ps2 launch price. its pretty amazing how sony sold over 50 million while still being priced that high. when ps3 hits $199, we'll see a bigger sales surge than in 2009 when it dropped to $299.

[RedDead2067]

Boring. We want the PS4

[tigertron]

PSThree IS the PS3 Slim.

[Agent_hitman]

My guess about that... The new PS3 price tag is $199

Day one..

[Droid Control]

I always expected a PSThree one day. The current redesign feels more like what the launch PS3 should have been like to begin with.

[synce]

This guy has obviously never opened up a PS3. It can't get much smaller than it already is. All they can really do is take out the PSU and make it a little less deep.

[WitWolfy]

I cant see how the PS3 can get any slimmer than what it already is at the moment TBH.