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Epic: Gamers take Gears of War’s graphics for granted

According to Gears of War executive producer Rod Fergusson, gamers have become so accustomed to the series’ advanced visual finesse that they now take it for granted.

“That was one of our biggest problems with Gears 1 to Gears 2,” he explained. “Your memory is far better than reality. When I was a kid, Gilligan’s Island was the funniest show on television. When you watch Gilligan’s Island now, it’s just plain terrible.”

When creating Gears 2, he said, the team wasn’t just having to improve on the graphics of the original, but on what players remembered the original to look like. And even reviewers complained at the lack of improvements.

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Inside_out4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

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The gaming media is to blame for this travesty. When Gears came out it shocked and awe...

http://youtu.be/cwEW6pBBs1M
http://youtu.be/q35Pw4JdQ0g

Gears of war 2 improved on everything...

http://youtu.be/jBXXoS1wjYs
http://youtu.be/NcxuFegAEV0

Gears 3, especially the lighting and smoke have raised the bar even higher...

http://youtu.be/efYjoNaEA5c

http://youtu.be/f_yEgrhiSPM

Gears, much like Halo, are a well known commodity. People just expect greatness and it's like yeah, yeah, it's amazing...have you seen angry birds???...WoW...o_0

Single player, 4 player story based co-op, Horde mode with new beast mode, award winning multi-player, NEW weapons, NEW enemies, NEW engine, NEW EVERYTHING and people are like indifferent...lol.

It's unfortunate that the game has been leaked. I'm not sure how it will effect sales but a big budget game like this needs all the sales it can generate.

kalebgray924698d ago

while i have to say they have improved their graphics... its just a time where no one can be top dog even for a few months... the only 2 games that actaully hold their graphical king status is crysis 1... even though 2 looks better its not like how crysis 1 was... and the uncharted series... gears 1 is what made me buy my first next gen console but 2 and 3 just is meh to me... final fantasy versus xiii though will be the last graphical king before ps4 and xbox 720 mark my words

shikamaroooo4698d ago

Did I just hear pherr3d say gears had better graphics then uncharted.... people need to grow up

Active Reload4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

Gears 3 does have better graphics than UC3...

http://www.gamespot.com/for...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Pause that video at 1:36...Amazing xD

It's ok, YOU still have time to grow, lol. UC3 hasn't made a significant leap in graphics to be able to claim the throne. I heard they're making a new engine though to fix that.

XabiDaChosenOne4698d ago

@Active Reload what is up with the denial? Not only is the uncharted 3 beta an old build
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
but it still looks better than gears of war 3
http://www.gamespot.com/for...
Stop lying to yourself!!

Arnon4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

By far I'd rate the Gears 3 beta to be more visually appealing than the Uncharted 3 beta based on those shots.

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MrSpace4698d ago

Inside_out

Please man shut the hell up

Everytime you post it's defending Gears of War, bashing the PS3 or defending Microsoft in general. The sad part is you write these long posts to do just that.

Honestly Gears 3 dosen't have the best graphics, Uncharted 3 does and if you want to come back at me and shove Gears 3 pre order sales in my face then be my guest because preorder/sales don't mean shit

BrutallyBlunt4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

Maybe because this topic is about Gears of War? Is there anything is the article that even talks about the Playstation 3? Epic also makes PC games too you know and the PC is much more powerful than the Playstation 3. Not sure why Playstation 3 owners need to be here other than this site is run by Playstation 3 owners.

@EVILDEAD.
That person has not gotten a ton of disagrees, who do you think they are from, Playstation 3 owners? No, couldn't be.

EVILDEAD3604698d ago

@ Mr. Space..why don't you follow your own advice and shut up and stop trop trolling.

The article has nothing to do with Uncharted 3 and that is actually a great reply to the article by Inside Out.

It is the truth about the smear of Gear 2 when it dropped..the haters were screaming Gears 1.5 and never played the game once. I remeber playing the first couple of levels and screaming holy $%&# what drugs are these haters on.

I also used to say how Uncharted is completely different game..it's a single player campaign where navigating (platforming) the gorgeous eye-popping environments are the star of the show and the rest is shooting a bunch of henchman.

Where Gears is co-op campaign from jump (Gears 3 is a 4-player co-op) and not only were the environments beautiful.you were fighting city eating Giant worms and ridiculousy huge creatures as well as fighting hordes of brutal monstrosities.

Both games do what they do best..Epic again is asolutely right..people took Gears 2 graphics for granted..not me

Evil

JokesOnYou4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

lol, Mr Space he's in a Gears topic, on topic and adding to this news about Gears, OMG shocking isn't it! yet here you are attacking him and then ranting about UC3, nowhere did I see him mention UC3, why so threatened?

xPhearR3dx4698d ago

Sorry MrSpace but I'm going to say Gears of War 3 has better graphics than Uncharted 3.

Motorola4698d ago

^ LOL nope. Gears 3 is pretty but It cant beat Uncharted 3. No way.

xPhearR3dx4698d ago

@Motorola

LOL yup. I've played both and Uncharted 3 looks more like a step down from Uncharted 2. Gears 3 has better texture work, and the lighting in both games are pretty similar.

Ron_Danger4698d ago

Uncharted 3 in 3D is crazy though... I'm level 22 right now in the beta and although I admit that the difference between U2 and U3 graphically is questionable, playing it in 3D is a game changer... It's something you just have to see for yourself... It's so much better than any 3D movie (or other 3D game for that matter)

omi25p4698d ago

why the hell are you in a gears of war artical saying that uncharted is better.
Then moaning at him saying he always praises gears in a GEARS Artical. Shut the f*ck up your a hipocrite that some how manage to p*ss me off every time you write a comment

Arnon4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

Very level headed comment. I've played both as well, and Uncharted 3's graphics compared to 2 are very questionable. Judging from ACTUAL experience (since most on here haven't had that), I've rated Gears of War 3's beta to be more visually stunning.

However, the single player will be a different story, but that applies to both games. If the trend continues, I might rate Gears above Uncharted 3, but I'd be surprised if I did.

I will say this though. With the addition of 3D and Uncharted's notoriously good animations, it will look fantastic.

HeavenlySnipes4698d ago

UC3 doesn't look better than Gears 3 from the BETA. The fact that the SP gameplay of UC looks 100x better than the beta shows you the beta is nothing close.

THIS IS UC3

http://www.videogamergalaxy...

http://www.ps3chat.com/news...

http://i345.photobucket.com...

http://thegamingliberty.com...

DOES THE BETA FOR UC3 LOOK CLOSE TO THAT! THEN STOP USING IT IN COMPARISONS

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firemassacre4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

inside out what the hell are you trying to prove? you seem desperate to defend gears...wonder why ;) you seem insecure about its graphics. ;)

zootang4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

What's funny is Killzone and UC take crap about them being corridor games yet Gears is more corridor than both and it still looks worse.

firemassacre4698d ago

dont say that, you will upset alot of people

lategamer4698d ago

What's funny is that 360 has games that look just as well as the PS3, but PS3 fanboys think Uncharted and Killzone look better than everything else.

What's funny is that Gears throws tons of enemies at the player, play Horde mode and you'll see ton of AI on screen with 3 other players.

What's funny is that Uncharted looks meh in multiplayer, yet fanboys think "it's the best looking game!"

What's funny is that instead of just playing games and having fun, people have to whine and debate there game has more pixels or more post processing effects, when PC games like Crysis and Battlefield destroy them.

Amaterasu54698d ago

What's funny is that god of war 3 owns everything else (EVIL LAUGH) and UC3 AND KZ3 as well :P

Gray-Fox-Type04698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

Gears Of War 3 is looking like a graphical beast. Ill be sure to pick this up first day and also Uncharted 3 best of both :D Uncharted 3 campaign I just can't wait looks amazing! The bit Drake hanging from the cargo plane..O...M....DSS how does this guy do this lol

JokesOnYou4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

"Gears, much like Halo, are a well known commodity. People just expect greatness and it's like yeah, yeah, it's amazing...have you seen angry birds???...WoW...o_0"

lmfao, that was funny, but yeah I agree, Gears2 looked amazing, I don't think people intentionally downplayed how great it looked I think its just a natural *non-reaction, because the 1st was so mindblowing, with the 2nd it wasn't a huge leap as the 1st was as far as graphics go. Thankfully although Gear3 still isn't the huge leap as the original was its noticeable how superb the game looks, I mean seriously those are some amazing visuals, easily competing with the best graphics on any console and more importantly lets not forget how well it plays also, judging from the beta. Epic should be commended for their ability to get so much out of the 360.

pain777pas4698d ago

You guys seriously... I think that PS3 is better quality Hard ware but man. UC series owns gears. The comparison is non issue. I think some of the monsters with motionblur etc make the game LOOK cool. The actual detail in the sandbags in the first game are great and some of the environments. However, that was 2007. Now, UC2 looks like it left that game in the dust period. Some of the levels you can see into the distance then go there and the graphics are jaw dropping good. You are fooling yourself if you think that Gears is in the same league as UC. I am not bashing the great parts of Gears but I was only impressed in 2007. Graphics have come a long way since then. You could be just in a random town room in UC and the level of detail is unbelievable from the masks on the wall to the paint on the wall .

kaveti66164698d ago

There is no part of Uncharted or Uncharted 2 where you can look far off into the distance and then go there.

pain777pas4698d ago

Helicopter battle from the roof to the next to the next. Come on man. Do not be rediculous.

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BrutallyBlunt4698d ago

So a topic about graphics with the words Gears of War all of the sudden means the Playstation 3 owners come out of their coma's to the comment section? Wow.

“Yeah, people have closed the gap. We were far ahead of a lot of games when Gears 1 came out. Everybody’s been catching up, and a lot of people are fighting for ownership of that title. But we continue to push the box and what HD means.”

See how they say push the box? That means the XBOX360, not the Playstation 3. Besides, if you truly wanted to talk about graphics you would be talking about Battlefield 3 on the PC.

No, this site isn't run by Playstation 3 owners, not at all.

jdfoster004698d ago

vice versa. Gears fanboys go on ps3 articles and thw same with Uncharted fans! Though I must say they are both graphically great! But uncharted uses alot of colours and varies it's colours unlike gears which is mostly greys, browns etc whereas uncharted uses alot of different colours!

BrutallyBlunt4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

I don't even like the Gears of War series all that much and prefer Uncharted, but this site is only good for news, not the forums. It's become a cesspool of people bickering about nothing.

http://forums.n4g.com/defau...

Look at how much activity there is among Playstation 3 owners on this site. This is why there is such a disparity of those who prefer the Playstation 3 in most articles. Even articles like this one that has nothing to do with the Playstation 3.

Watch how this topic explodes when all it really is about is how the Unreal engine on the XBOX360 has shown to produce very good graphics on that system. Gears of War isn't even on the Playstation 3 and they clearly said on the box, meaning only the XBOX360. If people truly wanted to talk about visuals all they need to say is Battlefield 3. However we all know the real battle on N4G has been about the Playstation 3 and XBOX360. Not sure how that is relevant here but I'm sure they will find a reason.

Rainstorm814698d ago

Honestly, I think its much more ps3 owners now, so the internet reflects that. But u get the same in ps3 articles too, trolls/fanboys will be around no matter what.

But there are also people who look at things objectively, without bias, on this site as well.....

BreakNeckSpeed4698d ago

What has uncharted got anything to do with this article? There needs to be stricter quality control before people accept these articles for submission. It's obviously months old if the people that approved this actually read the piece.

SMH!

BeastlyRig4698d ago (Edited 4698d ago )

BF3 bro, BF3. on pc.

How are people taking gears 3 graphics for granted? Yeah Gears looks nice but It's not like it's the best graphics ever! or this year!

The important thing is that Gears looks fun!

But Epic swears they are the Sh!t..

Kamikaze1354698d ago

Because compared to games on the PS3 and PC, the graphics on Gears of War are nothing, really.

RedDead4698d ago

Come on, Gears 3 looks amazing and the game has always been comparable to the Ps3 Exclusives, its just that Ps3 has more great looking exclusives that Xbox.

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Kamikaze1354698d ago

Oh don't get me wrong, it looks great. However, people never really look at Gears and say "omg look at those graphics" because there are many games that have already raised the bar far passed what Gears of War 3 has to offer. Gears of War 3 doesn't even do anything to single itself out from the rest of the Unreal games.

L.A. Noire has amazing facials that set it apart, Uncharted 3 will blow Gears of War 3 away, and if Crysis actually comes out on consoles like rumors suggest...there is just no competition if it's ported over properly.

fatalred alarm4698d ago

halo reach is amazing in the texture department... go chek it out.

xtremegamerage4698d ago

Gears 3 does look good, as does crysis 2 tbh, some people love the look of Uncharted.

Hek i think WIPEOUT HD looks amazing.

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Microsoft's quest for short-term $$$ is doing long-term damage to Windows, Surface, Xbox, and beyond

Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's plans to increase every department's margins.

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Brazz18h ago

"The plan to move Xbox games to other platforms is codenamed "Latitude" internally, and I know there's debate and unease at Microsoft about whether or not this is a good idea. More upcoming Microsoft-owned games slated for PlayStation are already being developed. At least for now, they're potentially obvious games you'd most likely expect. And yes, while it's true Microsoft is a prolific publisher on PlayStation already, it has typically revolved around specific franchises like Minecraft. From what I've heard, Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation, and it all revolves around Satya Nadella and CFO Amy Hood's mandate to increase every department's margins. "

Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware.

Xeofate16h ago

"Yeah, they are going to kill Xbox hardware."

It's for the best.

Quit stringing along xbox fans and screwing over PlayStation owners.

crazyCoconuts11h ago

Take good care of those Xboxes if you have 'em ...

outsider162411h ago

An Xbox game on a Playstation. Never in my years of gaming did i ever thought this was gonna happen.

jznrpg6h ago

It is dying anyway so doesn’t make much of a difference

VersusDMC6h ago

No way can they get rid of the hardware as probably 90% of game pass subscribers are hardware users.

Highly doubtful those users will move to PC or Cloud to subscribe there and the competition (Sony and Nin) will never have gamepass on their system.

If they want to keep the current subscribers, they need to keep releasing new hardware.

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gold_drake17h ago

i think it will kill off the xbox brand. windows will be fine.

but there is and would be a chance that xbox might be killed off in the future. if they fail to make the money they put in. imo.

S2Killinit15h ago

They wont kill it, but they will go fully PC while keeping xbox as a brand, and go multiplatform for the most part. They will also work tirelessly to diminish console gaming’s importance.

PRIMORDUS11h ago

It would be best if Xbox goes the way of Sega, just make and publish games. I know I myself will not support them at all with buying games from them, you all can. 🙃

ChasterMies10h ago

The Xbox brand will live for the games. I don’t expect Microsoft to entirely drop out of gaming hardware. They make Surface tablets and laptops. They’ll make Xbox branded hardware for those that want it.

shadowT17h ago

"Microsoft is pushing for no "red line" for what games could come to PlayStation"

Forza and Starfield next?

Skuletor15h ago

Starfield would be no surprise and there's the rumor that it will come to Playstation after the Shattered Space DLC, Forza (along with Halo and Gears of War) I find less likely but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually end up on PlayStation too, especially if Xbox give up on hardware and go the Sega route.

shinoff218315h ago

Not to worried about forza. I'd rather see others like what inxile and obsidian are working on. Starfield sounds like it needs more time in the oven so let it cook first imo. If starfield and it's a small if does release on ps it'll be in the fall around the time for dlc or right at the dlc and come packaged with it.

-Foxtrot16h ago

In the words of Phil Spencer when he was talking about Nintendo last year

“It's just taking a long time for Microsoft to see that their future exists off of their own hardware"

S2Killinit15h ago

Yup. MS are a cancer to console gaming.

Aloymetal14h ago

100%!!
I wonder what happened to that dude that was always here posting those court articles with cartoons about MS spending all those billions in studios. He suddenly disappeared, I guess he doesn't like bad news when the green brand is in trouble. No new articles from him as of late...

PRIMORDUS11h ago

Yup, and it's only going to keep spreading.

Outside_ofthe_Box12h ago

Phil Spencer's words always comes back to bite him lol

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk772d ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE2d ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7302d ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor2d ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos2d ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor2d ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos2d ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus233d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos3d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb333d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC3d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled4d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies3d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear213d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k44d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot4d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC3d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615863d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k43d ago (Edited 3d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k43d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody4d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead3d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage3d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast4d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19794d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19793d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage3d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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