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The Xbox 360 takes on the Wii with a struggle

"Microsoft has built a solid reputation with the Xbox 360 and some impressive franchises, most importantly Halo 3. But I have some trouble figuring out the future of the console, especially when Microsoft wants the Xbox 360 to be everything for everyone. Will the Xbox head right into an identity crisis and be in danger losing its appeal between the highly focused Nintendo Wii and Sony Playstation 3?"

ichimaru6039d ago

good question, but its micro. i'm sure that they willget thier haed strait.

Clinton5146039d ago

Is the assumption that this console generation is anywhere near done. These ridiculous people are quick to claim Wii "victorious".

Rooftrellen6039d ago

True, its not over yet, but the PS3 is so far behind, it would have to sell hundreds of thousands of consoles more...per month, to catch up, and it seems as if the general idea is that the 360 is dead.

IdontTakeSides6039d ago

I personally feel that the Wii will be second this gen...Nintendo alone cannot make the wii a success...and as far as we know the wii has the worst game library of the three...

M$ problem is that it tries to do everything the competition does..instead of just keep focusing on it's own strengths

The PS3...is the overall best designed system of the three ne one care to disagree is biased...and when Sony gets it's act together "which there in the process of doing'..the PS3..will take off ....which will happen soon...

razer6039d ago

That the PS3 is a quality built box, but it is not the best game console and I am not biased I own both a 360 and PS3. I do think the 360 is the best for gaming.

forum_crawler6039d ago

"as far as we know the wii has the worst game library of the three... "

That is up for debate. If you like Mario type of games, then the wii has the best library, if you like shooters, then 360 does. It really depends on where you are coming from.

Also, the PS3 is not the best design of the three. If anything it is the opposite. It does have the most powerful processor of the three, but due to its poor overall design, the data rate or bandwidth is severely crippled for what the processor is capable of doing thus resulting in performance that is not really that much better than the 360, even though it should run circles around it. Have a look at the technical documents and read about the bandwidth limitations of the PS3 and you will realize that though cell is the most powerful processor, the rest of the PS3 system is not the best.

Do either of the PS3 or 360 have Zelda, Mario, Metroid or Wario? No. Right there, the wii has 4 different types of games that are extremely well done and successful 4 different types! Adventure/RPG, Platformer, FPS and party games. If anything the wii has the most variety of the three consoles.

Besides, when I want to play shooters (with friends on-line) I use my PC, no better way to do it than that...

IdontTakeSides6039d ago (Edited 6039d ago )

"If you like Mario type of games, then the wii has the best library".

"Do either of the PS3 or 360 have Zelda, Mario, Metroid or Wario? No. Right there, the wii has 4 different types of games that are extremely well done and successful 4 different types! Adventure/RPG, Platformer, FPS and party games. If anything the wii has the most variety of the three consoles."

Dude everyone like mario..maybe we don't like some of the more recent games..but we all played it one way or the other..and I can also play those games you just mentioned on my PSP no need for a Wii I guess..

Mario , Zelda , Wario , Metroid...wow look at the 4 different types..

BTW other than Metroid FPS suck on the Wii....the PS3 has the most variety it has a game for every genre try again...and the PS3 Hardware isn't the best that's why we have games like Uncharted , R&C..HS...Lair(im talking bout graphics)..Haze...GT5..last but not least Killzone 2....

BTW you forgot to mention the very well crafted game..name..."Zack & Wicki"

razer6039d ago

"the highly focused Nintendo Wii and Sony Playstation 3?"

I can say that yes the Wii is highly focused on making games for kids and girls.. But the PS3??? Focused as in only appealing to the hardcore?? I think if any console is suffering from an identity crisis it's the Movie machine or is that game console PS3.

candystop6039d ago

Thats so true Razer and funny how things are getting so twisted as to whats going on!

stonedog6039d ago

has definitely been having a problem getting the message out. This appears to be the result of infighting at Sony (something I may add the company has been notorious for). We note a previous article posted on this site about Izumi Kawanishi being shuffled out of the gaming division. Kaz Hirai message was that the PS3 is a gaming system and Izumi Kawanishi was pushing the view that the PS3 as a "super Computer". (see: Rumor: Sony Computer Ent Lost Chief Tech Officer?)

The reality is that any one of the consoles is still in a position to be a spoiler for the others. Nintendo sells a lot of systems but the game attach rate is low. M$ has its core market of gamers and logically wants a share of Nintendo cake to. As long a M$ does not forget about it core market its pushing into the casual market can't hurt it. The key for Nintendo is not only price point but innovative game play with the wiimote. The reality is that no one in the generation is likely to run away with the show.

Basch6038d ago

Mon dieu: so yes, there's a chronic lack of [decent] shooters or BBFC 18s on the Wii. But what makes you think kids and girls don't play such titles on the Xbox 360 you tout so much? It would be nice if people were less blindly cynical about the many gaming audiences who don't fit within the sixteen-to-twenty-four-year-ol d male bracket.

And pardon the PS3 for embracing a new technology (a strategy which – oh look – Microsoft have since usurped)! I personally think that if any console is suffering from an identity crisis, it's one that wants "to appeal to everyone" but is still churning out more first person shooters than either of its rivals.

littletad6039d ago

Identity Crisis? And even more laughable the author puts it "between the Wii and Ps3. So that means in the next coming months the ps3 will sell an astonishing 9 million consoles? Whoever did his data for him is incompetent. The ps3 is selling worse than the gamecube and it's system to software attachment rate is barely better than the Wii.

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander19721d 5h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing691d 4h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander19721d 3h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto1d 3h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander19721d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto1d 3h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander19721d 2h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff21831d ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto23h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197220h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv721d 3h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh1d 1h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander19721d 1h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow119h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv7219h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix761d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand1251d 4h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC1d 3h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander19721d 3h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC1d 3h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia1d ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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