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A Gamer's Perspective: The Problem With Killzone

Join PixelJumpers as we take a look back at the Killzone Series and exam one of the critical problems that has held it back from true greatness.

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firemassacre4702d ago

The article goes well into detail,killzone has its problems, although i believe the killzone series is still one of the best fps games out there. check out these graphics...(in my personal opinion) unmatched on a console. :)

NovaXz4702d ago

I do agree with regards to visuals, although I definitely see where the writer is coming from. The world of Killzone is far more interesting than your standard shooter but Guerilla never really takes advantage of it.

TheKindRoost4702d ago (Edited 4702d ago )

Here lies the problem with many devs today. They create this rich universe but never take any advantage of it. Expanding them in more than just an fps is a logical way to explore the games universe.

a_squirrel4702d ago

I like Killzone... The first one the most actually...

Ducky4702d ago

@Yellow

Yea, I'm seeing this with a lot of recent FPS games.
Homefront and Brink are two other cases where I also felt the devs failed to take full advantage of the setting.

Then again, story-telling in FPS games is a difficult thing to execute, and only a few games seem to do it well. Which is rather unfortunate.

raztad4701d ago

KZ will reach its true potential when the helghast become the real good guys and their story be told from a different viewpoint than vulgar nazis wannabe.

Stop with the dude bro, stereotypical "good guys" (aka marines) stories GG. Nobody cares about Sev and Rico.

BattleAxe4701d ago (Edited 4701d ago )

I've just decided to trade in KZ 2+3, mainly because I didn't like either campaign enough to replay them again, and I was just totally disappointed with the small amount of content that both games released with, and the problems with the maps not rotating properly kinda sucks. IMO Resistance is the best exclusive FPS game on PS3. GG always delivers with great graphics, but their games always seem to be missing the mark.

kneon4701d ago

@raztad

I had been hoping that was where KZ3 was headed. I had wanted Sev to realize the true nature of this war and try to stop it rather than win it. That of course would have created a huge conflict with Rico.

KZ2 was a much better game than KZ3. Hopefully for KZ4 they stop trying to make it like COD and do their own thing again.

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dragonyght4702d ago

good read, make sense cmon GG give us a helghast game

ASTAROTH4701d ago

Now that you mention it. . . the problem that the Killzone series always had was the media and the fans of other consoles and even PS fans never let it being a game on their own... They always compared it to Halo and the media wanted it just to be another Halo. Fortunately it is not. The first game was great if you forgot about Halo or whatever FPS. The second Killzone is an amazing achievement and Killzone 3 was the "culmination" of Guerillas efforts. An even better graphical achievement than KZ2 and that is not an easy feat.

KZ 3 suffered fron the CODtization of the genre and thats thanks to the ones who complained so much about the fell of KZ2. I think GG could have make an even better game and story if they have ignored the haters.

Same hapenned with Resistance. People complained about the bland an colorless graphics of the first and Imsomniac listened. They made R2 more colorfull and bigger in scope and guess what?? The poeple still complained about the now colorfull and cartony graphics. I as an artist always stay in what I believe not in what a bunch of people tell me. Thats my 2 cents... PEACE

dinkeldinkse4701d ago

But CODtization works just as well. I definitely agree about GG needed to ignore KZ2 haters while making KZ3. I won't go into my problems with KZ3 again, but let just say I would prefer this version of KZ3 to not exist.

thugbob4701d ago

Most KZ fans agree that KZ2 is a better game than KZ3 while still saying that KZ3 is a solid game. I personally think KZ3 is trash, but I'm still looking forward to KZ4.

dinkeldinkse4701d ago

thugbob, did you read my mind?

ASTAROTH4701d ago

Well to say KZ3 is trash is also an exagerated thing.

Every KZ2 fan felt that KZ3 is more akin to Call of Duty because it has a more lightier feel. Make no mistake here... KZ3 is nothing like COD. . . even if its lightier than KZ2 it still heavier than any COD. Also you need teamwork. I believe that KZ2 elitist felt betrayed and all but thats the way they get more people from playing it. Its ok and IMO, and I know I will get a ton of disagrees, KZ3 is the best of the 3. Yes I like it better than KZ2 Its more accesible and less frustrating in the MP.

Also KZ3 has the best graphics of any FPS available rigth now on any console. Yes better than Crysis 2 and I have played a lot of C2. The caharcters in KZ are more interesting and overall the game is still the best FPS so far this year... like it or not.

As I said in a thread about Uncharted 3 beta and how Uncharted 2 "fans" are already complaining all I have to say is ... haters gona hate.

Ohh buddy I respect your opinion but KZ3 is far from being trash...

thugbob4701d ago (Edited 4701d ago )

KZ3 being lighter isn't the only thing makes it feel like CoD. Recoil is now low and Health is now low which means fast kills/quick deaths which means first sight first kill. People will take advantage of this by sitting in a corner of a room taking advantage the probability that an enemy entering the room is high and that they will see the enemy first. This is known as camping which was almost nonexistent in KZ2. And I don't even want to go into detail about how much the classes are unbalanced in KZ3 and how bad the tactical spawn point system is. Who cares if KZ3 is the best shooter this year all of them including KZ3 were disappointments after disappointments. Hopefully Battlefield 3 isn't one of them. Anyway I'm already looking past KZ3 to KZ4 and I hope GG doesn't try to make their game for other fans this time around.

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keith-ps34702d ago

i rent this for like two weeks i play it with my cuzin coop it was just ok nothing great online was fun but i would have been mad playing 60 for it i will get it when its under 20 u can buy part 2 for like 8 bucks at gamestop lol

synchroscheme4702d ago

Very interesting article. Loved the argument on how "modern shooter games dehumanize members of other ethnicities and nationalities by portraying them as the main antagonists, with little motivation behind their actions other than “they’re the terrorists” or “they’re the Russians”."

I feel the connection was unintentional on GG's part, but it's great food for thought in my opinion.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro66d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7266d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_66d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga66d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2366d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200066d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin66d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole66d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix66d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198966d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198966d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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Killzone wasn’t a Halo killer, but a PS5 remake could come close

The first Killzone game never met lofty expectations of dethroning Xbox’s Halo, but if any game needs a PS5 remake, this is the one.

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Vits116d ago

I like Halo, but I don't think there is any need for a 'Halo Killer' at this point. If anything, the franchise is slowly undermining itself by making some of the dumbest mistakes possible. Infinite has finally reached a good point in terms of multiplayer, but it took an extra 2 years to get there. Meanwhile, the single-player experience is fine but rather mediocre when compared to the franchise peak.

That said, I would like to see the Killzone franchise back, if anything, to offer more variety to the PS5 exclusive catalog.

_SilverHawk_116d ago

sony should remaster all killzone games and bring back killzone multiplayer that is very similar to the style of killzone 2 multiplayer.

Cacabunga115d ago

Halo killed itself after Halo Reach.
Killzone went a little down in quality with SF on PS4 and I wish they kept them coming..

InUrFoxHole115d ago

??? Halo is doing great right now. I wouldn't mind seeing a kz2 mp rebirth

Cacabunga115d ago

Spawn grenade tactician class my favorite..

darthv72116d ago

I'd love a killzone trilogy, fully remastered on a single disc like they did with Uncharted. Maybe they could make it the full killzone saga including PSP and Vita games converted to console.

REDGUM116d ago

Yes please. Put me down for a copy, price irrelevant too. Loved allow those games in the franchise :)

Chocoburger116d ago

I've never liked the idea of a 'franchise killer', why can't both thrive, without one killing off the other? Its such a childish mentality.

That being said, if there ever was a true 'Halo killer', then it would have to be 343 Studios, and the Xbox division. They're doing a fine job killing off their own IP, apparently.

Profchaos116d ago

Cause console wars mostly drove the halo v killzone thing

Eonjay115d ago

And media co.panies like IGN drove the console wars for clicks.

Profchaos115d ago

@eonjay
Yeah and I still cringe super hard when IGN runs their next gen console watch segment 3 years into the consoles lifecycle we are approaching midgen likely by December and they are out there milking clicks like it's mid 2020 and were starved for information

ModsDoBetter116d ago

Halo doesn't need to be killed, they've done that themselves. It's a shell of its former self.

Zeref115d ago

And yet Halo is still here. Where is Killzone? Resistance? Haze? All the supposed "Halo Killers" are dead franchises 😂

DarXyde115d ago (Edited 115d ago )

"Dead" really isn't the right word for any of these franchises (except Haze). You're also calling these games dead for different reasons. oIMyersIo is saying a Halo is dead because it is not what it used to be and is saying it has gotten much worse. You are saying those franchises faded into obscurity and no one cares. I also find it funny that your first reaction is to name PlayStation franchises because you perceived their comment as a slight against Xbox. I hope you're at the very least part of their ambassador program...

Anyone that sees Killzone as dead is pretty myopic. A decade since their last Killzone, but they themselves have developed two full games since Shadow Fall. That's not many in context at all.

Resistance is a bit less clear. Insomniac is pretty tied up at the moment. Including all of their games on all platforms and ignoring Spider-Man Remastered, we're looking at 23 games since Resistance 3. That's alarmingly prolific and still no R4. My guess? In the modern era, a new Resistance is probably going to have to be a live service and Insomniac is not that studio.

I don't think it's dead though. Not at all.

Gaming4Life1981115d ago

Halo infinite is still the best exclusive fps and is doing great but you think it's dead lol. Its also one of the top fps games out here so i dont get where your coming from. Just because you don't play it does not mean it's dead or dying.

I liked killzone 1 & 2 and I think Sony should bring it back along with resistance cause they are in need of more variety in their first party lineup. Sony & MS are sitting on some great franchises that need a revival.

ModsDoBetter115d ago

"Just because you don't play it"

And there your argument was derailed.
Through making such an assumption, you have only served to show that your response is that of a fanboy and any criticism of your beloved franchises is met with speculation in order to downplay any counter argument.

As a matter of fact, as many in team blue on this site will tell you, I often do defend Xbox just as much as I defend PS, so for you to make such a silly comment is laughable.

I have played plenty of Halo: Infinite - on Series S, Series X and PC via Steam. To say the game comes anywhere near the franchise greats such as Combat Evolved and Halo 2 is delusional. The franchise is a shell of its former self and that is a FACT.

It absolutely isn't the best fps exclusive but at this point we're arguing over preferences which is pointlessly subjective.

Where I do agree is that a Resistance comeback would be great for Sony.

DrDoomer116d ago

I'd take Killzone and Resistance over Halo any day.

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Killzone: Liberation Trophy Guide

Travel to Helghan and take our Killzone: Liberation Trophy Guide with you to help earn your latest Platinum Trophy!

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Rynxie325d ago

Wow, you're way late to the game. I quickly glimpsed at the title and thought a new killzone game. Sigh

andron325d ago

Because the game was added to Ps+ classics. This port of the psp game has trophies now...

vTuro24325d ago

This game was dope. Perhaps I might give it another go.
I just wish KZ Mercenary multiplayer wasn't shut down. feelsbadman

P_Bomb324d ago

Downloaded it! Will run it later this summer. Plat seems reasonable too.