Fan Claims Battlefield 3 Is Rehash Of Bad Company 2, Gets Schooled By DICE Community Boss

The closer we get to the launch of Battlefield 3 in October, the more we’re getting to know about the game. It’s also becoming more frustrating to handle the plethora of fans who are seeking answers for questions deemed relevant, and although Rendering Architect at DICE Johan Andersson has taken a hiatus from answering those questions, the studio’s community man has not.

[2fk]

the title kills me a little inside....by far BF3 will demolish BFBC2 in every single aspect....but as always u can't please everybody

[DA_SHREDDER]

so does anyone know if BF3 is gonna be Onlive? They aren't taking it off Steam. Or are they?

[saladthieves]

It would be a terrible move if they did. I know EA wants to promote their Origin store, but they should at least keep it available on Steam. Crysis 2 was removed anyway but when asked who removed it, people were pointing fingers at each other.

[bozebo]

lol @ onlive

[Controversy]

I grow weary of people complaining about BF3. It really is going to be awesome on every console so SHUT UP already and enjoy the fact that a good game is coming out.

[AndrewRyan]

Seems you are a bit slow with news. EA has removed all games from Steam. (and it appears steam removed some as well)

All EA games can now be purchased from EA origin, their new online store, just like steam. You can preorder battlefield 3 here.
http://www.ea.com/news/elec...

[shovelface88]

@AndrewRyan

What in the flying hell are you talking about? EA has NOT removed all games from steam. The ONLY game that was removed was Crysis 2, and EA is pointing the finger at Valve. I suggest you go look at the steam page before spewing such nonsense.

I haven't the foggiest idea where you could have gotten such incredibly inaccurate information. Two people even agreed with you! Are you all mentally challenged?!

[TheREAL-HyDRo1x]

this wasn't schooling this was ridiculous...

[DeadlyFire]

Well. Its possible that it will goto OnLive. Likely to be on Steam, and Origin.

I wonder the logic behind only 4 player squads. Less people = less communication, but somehow equals a better team effort? I say 6 or 8 player squads are required. Maybe can be patched into the game later though.

[miDnIghtEr]

So where's the schooling? This article title fails as hard as BF3 will in sales vs COD.

[Tapioca Cold]

Tell us O' Mighty One, how is Battlefield 3 going to DEMOLISH BFBC2? You're just on the hype train.

i've learned to wait to play games this gen before I make bold claims.

[Biggest]

This is how:

http://blogs.battlefield.ea...

[2fk]

@ Tapioca Cold

there is a lot of gameplay of BF3 wise guy...i already know ((((IMO)))) that it's going to be amazing...the only shooter ((((IMO)))) DICE has failed in the shooter genre is Medal of Honor MP...every Battlefield game they made has been really good.....u might have not played many Battlefield games but i have.

[Tapioca Cold]

@ Biggest and 2fk:

You guys are just a few of the people hyping this game waaaaay beyond expectations. Don't worry it happemns all the time. Especially this gen. it seems every sequal is hyped so much that it is obvious it will be a let down since it cannot compete with the hype and expectations guys like you put on games.

Here are just a few games that were hyped beyond belief and then in a day they were being complained about because they weren't exponentially more awesome.

Socom 4
MW2
Medal of Honor

Lastly, I bet you're a sniper. I'm right aren't I? I'd own you in BFBC2.

Snipers never win.

[2fk]

@ Tapioca Cold

whats it 2 u anyways it's NOT like my opinion is a FACT...if i wanna hype a game let me do it then...BF Series is really the only games i hype

In Battlefield i am a sniper, also a engineer, an assault, and a medic...I'm a team player.

ALSO I've been sniping in countless shooter games I'm pretty good ;)

[Biggest]

I didn't hype anything. I gave a link explaining what you questioned. What would make a game better than another game? Take the same game. . . Add great features. . . Improve the engine used to make the game. . . Old game is demolished!

[NarooN]

How is BF3 gonna be awesome?

*Remembers BF2*

Oh yeah, right. Because that game was fucking awesome. BC2 doesn't really have anything to do with the MAIN Battlefield series. BF3 will be more like BF2 or 1942 than it will BC2.

[HardCover]

It's so blatant that an 8 year old could figure it out.

Bad Company: Spin off for consoles, sequel released for PC just cause.

BF3: Built from scratch to make use of the best tech available (PC is the main platform, after all). Successor to BATTLEFIELD 2, NOT Bad Company 2. If that doesn't mean anything to you, you should have played BF2 when it was fresh.

Factor in the game play shown and it's even more clear. Seriously, people thinking it's a BC2 rip or a CoD rip have no clue what they're talking about in my opinion.

I'm a fan, so I'm biased. It also means I read developer interviews and have at least a legitimate clue as to what they're aiming for.

[3GenGames]

You don't know who DICE is apparently.

[MysticStrummer]

The only demolishing will be done to the buildings in the game. Is it an advance over BF:BC2? Yes. Does it demolish BF:BC2? No. It's funny how you read on N4G that they are two completely different games, yet multiple E3 previews for BF3 said the gameplay was virtually identical to BC2. But, just like people claiming that bad AA makes their eyeballs bleed, someone always has to throw out some major exaggeration and start talking about one game demolishing another.

[I_find_it_funny]

whera are those "fans" when it comes to Cod

[palaeomerus]

Cod is probably my favorite kind of fish. Don't get me wrong, flounder is good too but cod is awesome. It's a shame that cod is over fished. We should probably farm the hell out of cod.

[Max_Dissatisfaction]

Ah gees its always the same with you people, Killzone 3 single player gets slammed; where were these people when halo released?
Psn gets hacked, shuts down for 25 days, people get mad at sony; where were these people when Live was down for xmas weekend?
BF3 footage disappoints ps3 fans; where were these people when cod was shown?
Why must you always divert criticism to the game/console you don't worship?
You know what the ironic thing is about your moronic question? Its that you really don't have to ask where those fans are because they are in EVERY SINGLE CoD article!
You cannot have a single cod article without some prick or 5 telling us that CoD MW3 is really MW1.3

[darthkai]

Yeah, Battlefield 3 is obviously a rehash of Bad Company 2, but Modern Warfare 2 was sooo not a five-hour rehash of the first...
Some people have perspectives on reality that absolutely baffle me...

[SoapShoes]

@Max_Dissatisfaction - These people are complainers and therefore will always complain about something. If EA physically put $20 directly into their wallets they would come up with something to complain about. Probably that the bill wasn't fresh and crisp off of the mint or have the audacity to claim EA didn't do enough and they deserved more money. -___-

[BattleAxe]

IMO the console versions of BF3 will be the same graphical quality and essentially the same gameplay with 24 vs 24. Its the PC version that they've changed things for, and I'm willing to bet that they'll be using the same Frostbite engine that they used for BC2 on consoles. The PS3 deserves more than this.

[ghaleon1980]

The PS3 deserves more than this? The game is on 360 too isn't it?

[swinesucker]

No they will not be. Unless your console is somehow going to start doing high res shadows, 1080p, and 60 fps along with 8xAA and max AO. Good god some of you people are so inane.

[DrRichtofen]

What kind of FAN would make that claim? The people who think that obviously arn't Fans and don't know the difference between Battlefield and Battlefield Bad Company, and are pretty much telling everyone "HEY WORLD! WATCH ME MAKE A JACKASS OF MYSELF!".

[Legion]

I didn't see any schooling in that reply from the DICE Boss. He didn't even comment on the squad size or no commander issue. Only saying that 4 classes is all you need with the variety.

[joab777]

Get the fans name and find out how many hours he logged on black Olson this year. My goodness, if u wanna talk about rehashes... I tend to believe more that b3 is a game that woulda released better on next Gen consoles. Unless u have a PC, or unless the wiiU is gonna b used properly, those of us on consoles wont fully realize this tech, this engine until the next cycle. But, bring it on, As i am sure Dicewill continue to work hard w this tech and when they are able to open it up on a720 or a ps4, they will have strong foundationsin place. I'm tired of the bitching. At least they r attempting to push the genre forward. They aren't watering down the PC simply to please us, and it isn't their fault that the consoles are showing their age. Think about how fast technology moves. Its quite a feat that consoles have lasted this long,another thing next Gen must consider as cycles may get shorter and shorter. Eventually, Sony and Microsoft will have to release their own gaming computers and we will b responsible for how much we wanna spend to keepup.

[Jezuz]

I know, would a real fan even ask that stupid question ?

[shovelface88]

duplicate post* sorry!

[firemassacre]

what pissis me off is

WHY ARE DICE TAKING SO MUCH HEAT FOR A GOOD THING?

[rabidpancakeburglar]

Because some people are clearly just born to complain. The people who are complaining will never have had any intention of getting the game.

[Dark_king]

Whats pissin me off is the people complaining being called fans.They just can't be fans,fans would understand that the engine is new.Fans would understand the PS3 version wouldn't look like the high spec PC version.Fans would know and understand these things,I believe these so called fans are fans of another FPS and are trying to down play BF3.For what reason I do not really know maybe the BF3 will kill/destroy/blow away (insert other FPS games name) articles are scaring them.
BF3 is a huge improvement on the series and Dice should be showed the respect they have more then earned

[InfiniteJustice]

People seem to think it's cool to complain about every little thing, especially this gen. We get dozens of articles on N4G day in and day out which basically amount to someone complaining about something. And usually it's making a mountain out of a molehill.

Great example earlier today when someone claimed they would cancel their pre-order of Skyrim because it'll have less menus. These people need to shut up before developers just stop listening to 'fans' all together.

[FunkMcnasty]

Well said! I agree!

My favorite example of chronic internet complaining are all those people that are complaining that consoles are "not maxing out thier power on games 'cuz developers are lazy." Or the few delusional folks that will claim that developers like Crytek and DICE "need to learn how to properly develop for the Ps3 so it will have graphics similar/better than a PC."
As if most of those people complaining would be able to sit down with rendering software and make a better game??

[THILLREBORN]

I lol when I read the title because I think there are so many special ed cases with THE KNOW GAMERS. So many cats these days think they know about games but are easily schooled so hats off to Dice for chin checking the youngster...lol.

[Dart89]

Sigh anything to complain about.

[iNMyFiN4LH0uR]

sounds very similar to "MW3 is a rehash of MW2" accusation, may ALL ppl need to shut up and play their own games

[Venjense]

DICE needs to realize that 95% of comments from 95% of people on forums/comment-sections are negative.

The only valid negative comments are ones about bugs/gameplay issues, story, etc. Seeing how the game isn't out yet if I were DICE I'd treat them like IGN and ignore.

DICE should know that these people are not only the small minority of opinions but also potential purchasers as well.

The majority of sales come from people who never go on forums and the like.

[BeastlyRig]

I can't wait to play this!

[memots]

If this is true i welcome it !!!

I absolutely love Bfbc2, its by far the best online shooter with Tf2.
It even converted my 15 years old Nephew who was all about Cod for years.

[soundslike]

Yea...even though they said it wouldn't be BFBC3...

IT WOULD STILL BE FUCKIN AMAZING IF IT WAS

"Yea, a billion dollars is great and all...but how about a trillion?"

[bozebo]

with tf2? lol

[RedDead]

TF2...Obviously you have not experienced the experience

[TheGameFoxJTV]

TF2 is hands down the best shooter out. Has been for YEARS, and it's Free 2 Play now so the game will just keep getting better with more people buying stuff.

[bozebo]

tf2 is junk as far as shooters go. The gunplay feels drab and the levels are restrictive to (shooting) gameplay. It is however a very well engineered game from an artistic point of view - but that is about it.

I would much rather play a shooter that actually has decent feeling weapons, you know... so that the shooting is actually where the game lies.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

Translation: I suck at TF2 cause it's not a random deathmatch game like CoD. lol

[death2smoochie]

DICE should just stop answering these whining 12 year olds period.
It's obvious and plain as rain that these so called "fans" are not fans and are fans of another "FPS" game...that is dated and old as Moses.

[ElementX]

I just hope the console graphics are better than BFBC2. BFBC2 has low quality textures. If you duck behind cover it's pixelated and blurry. I don't care how good the gameplay is, but I want high res textures.

[Biggest]

ElementX said: "I don't care how good the gameplay is, but I want high res textures."

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym...

[Organization XII]

you clearly haven't played the PC version of BC2, which is by far the best looking shooter on the market, the game even looks better than Crysis at some points!

[Gran Touring]

Crysis 2 at some points

[Ser]

"I don't care how good the gameplay is, but I want high res textures."

This is what gaming has become? For shame.

[ElementX]

The gameplay has been cemented in stone long ago. These days every title has the same multiplayer options. I want something with better textures. Every game has the same modes, it's time to bring graphics to the forefront again.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

So, BC2 and Blops plays the same? *Facepalm* Sell your current consoles and PC and get yourself a Wii. It's def where you belong.

[AKS]

@ElementX

If you're that concerned about the high end graphics, why not just get the PC version? Or if all you are concerned about is with visuals, image quality, and graphics and don't care about gameplay, watch Avatar or a Pixar movie and stop trolling it up here.

There's nothing wrong with the way BC2 or what I've seen of BF3 on consoles. I may end up buying both the PC and PS3 versions just as I did with Bad Company 2 so I can play with friends on both Steam and PSN.

[Jack-Dangerously]

Buddy... I really think you don't know what trolling is if you think what he said is trolling.

He says "I hope it looks better than BC2" Who doesn't?

How is that trolling?... Please explain.

If anything, what you said to HIM was trolling.

[AKS]

You're very naive if that's what you really think. He's whining about high resolution textures not being in the console versions. If you want that type of texture detail he's talking about, only the PC version will be able to provide that. Most would agree that the console versions looked very good given the age of the hardware and the amount of physics, the open areas, and destructability. He's trolling because he's just taking a cheap shot at consoles and not adding anything to the discussion. No one genuinely thinks that the console versions will maintain all of the demands of a game like this plus magically have substantially upgraded texture quality that this hardware isn't going to be able to handle. Most would agree that DICE does a great job with their console versions, and BF3 will not be an exception to that.

[AzaziL]

I'd take framerate over graphics in a online FPS anyday, no point in trying to aim when everything stutters.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Well I wouldn't say that response "schooled" anyone... I do grow tired of all the fanboy reactions to every little piece of news on the game.

Either it will be great, good or bad...we will only know once it comes out. Just relax until then please.

[scotchmouth]

The title for this "article" makes the actual response lackluster.

[bozebo]

They should completely get rid of classes tbh...

[Deputydon]

Yeah! They should also decrease the size of the maps by about 10x and make it so we spawn in random places throughout the map. That way we get spawn killed constantly. That'll be fun!

/s

[TheGameFoxJTV]

The BF series, much like TF2, is a class based shooter for a reason. It's all about taking care of objectives by working with the different abilities of your squad. It enforces you to rely upon other teammates and not be a walking tank.

[shayol33t]

all of which is great great great fun :)

[bozebo]

tbh, I just choose the class with the most effective firepower and make all my enemies wait to respawn while I complete the objective.

The teamplay is just engineered over the top because some designer thinks it adds to the game somehow, then they have to think of ways to balance classes because their own existance is inherantly flawed.

And by get rid of classes, I meant only have custom classes... so the whole concept of "classes" dissapears, obviously you couldn't have guns spawning on the map etc. in BF.

So if you want to be an engineer, choose engineer-style loadouts. In the end, the game would be the same.

[aaronisbla]

if it would be the same, whats the benefits of getting rid of it?

[Deputydon]

There are several reasons for them to keep classes.

They have unique looks and icons. Which in turn helps enemies and teammates identify with what type of player they are dealing with.

It also helps keep the game balanced so that it limits the player from finding ways to use, let's say, Ammo pack, Rocket Launcher, and an LMG. Neither of those would fall under the same category (if what you wanted was something Perk based like CoD). But yet, that would essentially give them infinite bullets and rocket launchers, which would greatly decrease the point of vehicles.

[DrillaKid]

A sequel that is similar to a previous game made by the same developer? What does the guy expect?

While we're on the topic, how much would a PC that could run BF3 on max cost?

[Deputydon]

At max? In 1080p with AA on it would probably take a pretty decent amount. Even Crysis is fairly difficult to run at max in 1080p with AA and still get 60fps.

From what I've read, DICE has been demoing the game on a single 580 GTX, which is $450 - $500 Video card by itself. You'd be better off getting two GTX 560Ti's and running them in SLI. It'll cost a little bit more, but it'll run better than a single 580. And still give you a bit of headroom for the future.

But until they reveal the recommended specs it's a bit hard to tell you. I just built a new PC and it cost a little over $600, and there are things I could have bought to actually make it cheaper. Smaller PSU, Cheaper Case, Cheaper Mobo. All-in-all I probably could have pulled off the same overall specs for $100 cheaper. I just wanted to make sure I could future proof it somewhat.

I'm managing 55 FPS in Crysis at 1080p on Highest Settings, with AA at 8xQ and Vsync on.

[frostypants]

Just a tip: AA over 4x or so becomes a massive diminishing return...i.e. it hits your performance for a minimal visible improvement. However, if you're at 55fps, it's probably not an issue, so why not...

[DrillaKid]

Thanks man.

[TheGameFoxJTV]

Beautiful reply. lol, Should probably re-tool this and post it as a blog on this site and see if you can educate some of the console kids who keep saying you need 2000 dollar PCs to play games. lol

[Beastradamus]

These fanboys are going to make DICE never want to do a console game again. Just shut up already. You know all of you that are complaining are still going to buy the game.

[frostypants]

Right. Because PC fanboys *never* bitch about anything.

You should've seen the whining that went on over BF2 from all the people who preferred BF:Vietnam.

DICE will make games for whoever pays. It's a business, not a charity.

[bwazy]

The frik did that lame video have to do with anything.

[frostypants]

I agree that more than 4 classes would be preferrable. It forces people to be more careful with the class they select. While it's nice that they took LMGs out of the hands of the medics this time around (what were they thinking in BFBC2?!), I think giving med kits to the assault class is still OP'd, even if it's in lieu of the nade launcher.

Assault should be assault rifles + nade launchers + body armor.

Medics should be pea shooters + no body armor. They should never be an offensive weapon unless forced to be.

I do think combining recon/spec ops and snipers into the same class is a good idea, but for the most part I'm all for specialization.

[Veni Vidi Vici]

I fail to see how the poster got "schooled".

While I don't agree with all the complaints he posted, some are legit. Like no commander and squad size limit. The commander made BF games different from all the other FPS's, was very important, and fun to play. Having a larger squad and better communication options than what was present in BC2 is also pretty darn important if you've ever played any of the older BF games.

Instead of only answering the easy question, I'd like a decent response to these questions from that community manager.

[killalot100]

I would of rather had an answer instead of him snapping at him. I really want commander it was awesome. I rarely got to be a commander but some people were badass at it. I am still hoping they make a game type that has commander in it.

[Xelestial]

This story is pretty misleading. You think some shit's about to go down, but instead it seems like the author made a big deal out of a simple Twitter conversation. Not saying it isn't somewhat newsworthy, but author seems like he tried to make it more than it was.

Plus, there's a typo at the end.

[darksied]

This is one of those cases where the article's title really doesn't have anything to do with the content. A better title would be "fan asks a question, DICE responds."

I swear, so many of these titles are like tabloid headlines trying to bring in people with shock value.

[xX-StolenSoul-Xx]

Love how this game is getting so much attention. Controversy is what makes people buy games these days lol

[scotchmouth]

If you have ever seen the movie Idiocracy then you will completely understand why this was approved as "news".

[bwazy]

Wait is there seriously no commander? O_O

[Veni Vidi Vici]

Yes, there is NO commander. This is BC3 IMO. I don't really care about there only being 4 classes but no commander, only 4 to a squad, and no commo rose is stupid.

[caboose32]

Honestly the commo rose was cool but people would spam the SH** out of it. It ended up being really annoying. And there are both good things and bad things about commanders, and I believe the bad outweighed the good for DICE.

[Clarence]

What's wrong with being a sniper? Snipers always win. Long distance shots are very satisfying. I bet I can give u the business as a sniper. I'm good with the hand gun. Short range long range however u want it.

BF3 hype is well deserved.

[SuperK]

Im looking for a place where i can complain.
(reads title) Ahh this will do.....

[J-Killer15]

Why is everyone coming after DICE all of a sudden?

[Veni Vidi Vici]

There's mainly two groups going after them. The console people that can't understand why it doesn't look as good as on the PC and the people that played BF2 are expecting certain aspects to be in the new game such as the commander, bigger squads, etc. Some points are trivial but some are valid. Seriously, there isn't that much that's different between this and BC2. That's what some are complaining about.

[Clarence]

They are scared BF3 will dethrone MW3.

[vandal GAB]

For fuck sack leave dice alone all these fucking retard story's are getting annoying now!

[StarWolf]

overdramitc bs article "schooling said fan " by saying "because we have lots of customization" . the fan just asked a simple question and didnt make a statement "aww bc2 clone!!"

[Fanboys_suck]

it's always the PS3 fanboys

[Snakefist30]

or maybe COD Fanboys!

[GrumpyVeteran]

Would love to see the inclusion of the comm-rose, if not battle commander.

[e-p-ayeaH]

Well it does look pretty similar to bad company 2 on consoles plus if the 30fps gameplay is true then BF3 is no better in tecnical standards

[leogets]

you r kidding right? its similiar in terms of squad size and destruction.but even them have been tweaked,thats just the tip of the ice berg. technicallly this game is amazing,youll see this for yaself when u have the beta.

[ndl1531]

gotta say i haven't seen anyone complain ? are people making this $hit up ? like i say im a sony fan to the fullest and to me the game looks fenominal cant wait F**K THE HATERS

[orange-skittle]

That's because you weren't in class. I could tell by your grammatical errors. You need to take school more seriously. Some critics and fanboys have been complaining that BF3 doesn't look as good on PS3 as it does compared to PC...DUH? Then they said it runs at 30fps and only displays 720 like 99% of the console games out there. So, DICE is like we shouldn't have shown you shit if you're going to try and pick it apart you ungrateful bastards

*Phenomenal

[ndl1531]

well it doesn't really matter does it ? you understood what i was trying to say didn't you? its not like im writing a book but now that i look at it its kinda funny haha. as for battlefield 3 im with you on that . anyone with half a brain knew that the game would run at 720p 30fps on consoles . how can these fanboys be so delusional and think the pc and consoles would be the same ? the pc is a whole gen ahead of these consoles but like i said im still blown away by what it looks like on the ps3 . they did a great job props to dice

[helghast102]

Well, it IS a rehash.
You know what else was a rehash? Super Mario Galaxy 2, people didn't seem to mind that though.

But pretty much every single military FPS is a complete rehash of the last, don't even TRY to deny that.

[Mithan]

So some retards have issues. Who gives a fuck? Ea disappoints me.

[badvlad]

fkin geeks DIE

[bunfighterii]

I think BF3 will be good, but this is just DICE suffering form their own hype. All the attention this is getting from psychos whose lives are turned upside because BF3 isn't the second coming spawned from hype machine overdrive that DICE laid on thick months ago.

[GamerPS360]

pre-ordered and paid already. Have fun playing COD.

[peeps]

oh wow he got schooled /s

Seriously though I'm kinda sick of all these articles which are basically forum/community member posts. I like many do have concerns about BF3, my main being that the first mode they decided to show for mp is Rush which imo is no where near Conquest in terms of gameplay that sets BF apart from other games.

A clanmate recently got to play BF3 at an event in Sweden where he spoke to a DICE representative there and asked for any info on Conquest, they didn't really wanna answer to much on it though.

[CaptCalvin]

Hew didn't comment on the commander mode and 4 player squad limit, which to me is more important than the number of classes.

[Drake_Seraphim]

Why do these articles always start off with "fan" and not "hater"?

[trenso1]

i just wanna know if i can hold my knife online like in BF:1942 saw him holding it in the demo on jimmy fallon or whatever his name is. always lol'd when i smacked someone with a wrench in 1942

[TheBeast]

BF3 will still be on top.

[Darkseeker]

The biggest rehash is Call of Duty here. Not only that, they do it every years and people still buy it.

New call of duty games offer absolutely nothing new, it's the same freaking thing on different maps.

[fr00ty-wizenhymer]

He did not get 'schooled'. Having only 4 classes make every class essentially a rambo class. Each class can do well on their own. Back in the day when BF was good, more classes meant more reliance on teamwork.

[orange-skittle]

Are you retarded? How is a Sniper(Recon)a Rambo class? How can a team of snipers win a match? How can Assault soldiers survive without Medics or Engineers to take down tanks or aircraft? Your argument lacks any thought. Do you think that the developers dont have round table discussions? That's why they do what they do and you pay them to do it. Please don't assume you know more than they do about their own creation.

[CaptCalvin]

I just looked at my stats in BFBC2 the other day. My best class was recon, and its with the type 88 and a red dot sight, and that is after I unlocked every piece of equipment. So I'd say i went all out rambo with the recon kit. C4 and arty takes care of armor for me, and if I get hit, I'll just chill somewhere and have my health heal up by itself without a medic just fine.

[fr00ty-wizenhymer]

Ok, look at what happened with Bad Company 2. It only had 4 classes and because of that there was less teamwork being shown than the previous battlefields. You must be a console player and never got the chance to play Battlefield 2 in it's prime. BC2 sucked and so will BF3(Maybe even more than BC2).

[orange-skittle]

@Capt Calvin

Do you arm any crates? NO! Because you sit in back and let the other soldiers do it, so NO...you dont Rambo anything. You're a coward. Like I said before snipers only care about K/D ratio and you proved me right. You let artillery be your armor and there is no quick scoping. John J. Rambo was a 1 man army and Snipers are not that since you sit at the back of maps or at it's highest point and take shots at enemy soldiers engaged in battle

[ViserysTargaryen]

Why are there so many of these stupid BF3 stories?

[-EvoAnubis-]

This is starting to make me a bit mad. I'm tired of Twitter responses turning into news story. This shit ain't news.

[il-mouzer]

the reason I still play bf2 to this day is because I enjoy being a commander... this is utter bullshit

[-IronMan-]

The fans of BC i really doubt it. Most likely a fans of CoD that has bad graphics, autoaim, no vehicles, small spaces, etc..

They are just butthurt that BC3 got better graphics, gameplay, vehicles etc..