DoomeDx4700d ago

IMO, 60 frames are a must for Next Gen. But ofcourse they want to push the consoles to its limit, so it will still probally be 30 frames on 720p because the are maxing the graphics already before even thinking about resolutions and framerate

Theyellowflash304700d ago

Yeah, thats what concerns me about the next generation. I hope game developers focus on having the smooth gameplay first then worry about graphics. I would faint if Mass Effect played in 60FPS next generation.

MoveTheGlow4700d ago

There's also the familiarity that people have with 30fps in films and tv shows. No, it's not exactly 30 (I think it was 24?), but making a 30fps game gives it, to the Average Joe Gamer, a 'cinematic' feel.

But I'm right there with you. I love more skill-based, fast-paced games, and if you aren't locked in at a smooth 60fps, it doesn't work. Devil May Cry 3 wouldn't nearly have its appeal if it ran at the speed of, oh, Enslaved. Not that that would ever happen to DMC, right?

Theyellowflash304700d ago

LOL i see what you did there at the end. But yeah im a little worried about the new DMC. Using the unreal engine is not what i wanted to hear. Hopefully the game runs at 60FPS.

LightofDarkness4700d ago

UE3 is one of the easiest engines to get to run at 60FPS if you really want it to, it has a plethora of streaming options and compression techniques coupled with some "visual trickery" that can keep the game looking pretty nice with a high framerate.

Honestly, if NT can't get UE3 running at 60FPS they are pretty hopeless.

Tetsuryu4700d ago

Based on my past experience with the engine myself, I can tell you (and people I've worked with will tell you the same thing) it's almost impossible get 60FPS on consoles without some major corner cutting and compromises in the visuals even with some of the new features.

But in a sense LightofDarkness is correct, it's easy to get any title to an average of 60FPS (and 1080P if you want) on today's home consoles with virtually any decent engine, just don't expect Uncharted 3 or Gears of War 3 visuals (or anything near that for that matter). Turning off V-sync is almost mandatory in most cases.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/me...

To get it to look like this (at its current state) and have it run at said framerate, it's simply not going to happen, period. Unless NT has some miracle programmers to prove me wrong, which I hope, but doubt is the case.

NetherRealm Studios were one of the only ones to pull it off, but not without difficulty and taking a hit in the graphics department. Not to mention the maps (stages) are fairly small compared to other genres (and you only have 2 combatants onscreen majority of the time). You can read the documentation here if you want to learn more.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/1...

When it comes to choosing FPS versus visual quality, most studios tend to lean towards better visuals in the action genre, especially by Western studios. There are numerous reasons why that's the case.

While it's a good engine for its value (fairly cheap license compared to most out there), it's not quite the powerhouse in terms of raw power compared to some of the in-house engines from the other juggernauts of the industry. If it was capable of pulling a feat like that with relative ease, I'd be all over UDK and not use anything else.

Baka-akaB4700d ago (Edited 4700d ago )

THere is only one category of games i refuse to play below 60 fps , that would be fighting games .

Otherwise , while unfortunate , and soon unacceptable for any upcoming home console , i can deal with it .

60 or 30fps doesnt exactly decide the pace and feel of the game .

I'm worried over DmC , especially at 30 , but more because of Ninja theory's lack of skills when it comes to creating a fast paced , fluid , lag free and intense enough gameplay ... so it get's even worse when you factor the fps count .

But look at bayonetta and vanquish , incidently both from Platinum games , you can definitively have a fast paced and skill based game at 30 fps .

Theyellowflash304700d ago

Bayonetta is 60FPS on the 360 isn't it? But I agree with you. I would just rather have 60 cuz i can tell the difference in a action game and in games like COD over Killzone between 30 and 60 FPS.

rumplstilts4700d ago

Strategy games should also be 60 fps. Being able to observe all your units is easier.

MoveTheGlow4700d ago

I'd say that too, Baka, but then I'd hear something about 3rd Strike's framerate and completely eat crow, I'm sure. BTW, I can't wait for the online version...

Baka-akaB4700d ago

Not sure i followed and understood you there . SF 3rd strike runs in 60 fps .

Brunow4700d ago

Seriously guys, this article is pointless right ?

Gran Touring4700d ago

I don't think 60 fps is necessary for all games, just certain types; namely racing and fighting games. Platformers usually have it (DMC, Ninja Gaiden, GOW, etc.) but it isn't so necessary. If Uncharted, Mass Effect and GTA ran at 60 frames, it would certainly be a commendable achievement for the graphics, but it wouldn't really help the gameplay.

tplarkin74700d ago

If games ran at 60fps minimum, it would grow the industry.

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Please, can Call of Duty leave awful Netflix-style menus behind

Call of Duty games used to be streamlined experiences, but COD 2024’s UI could be another nightmarish clutter of streaming tabs.

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LucasRuinedChildhood1d ago

Let's just leave Call Of Duty behind.

BlackCountryBob4h ago

If we’re beating that drum, can we also stop forcing anyone who wants to play only the single player to download Warzone and all updates BEFORE they are then able to do another download from the menu of the single player campaign. I don’t see why I need 150gb of downloads in several ways to play the single player mode only from a bloomin disk which should have that campaign on it already.

DefenderOfDoom21h ago(Edited 1h ago)

The UI is confusing to me because I have not purchased a Call of Duty iin like 8 years .Only bought CoD MW3 because 3 of my friends I have known since to 70s are playing zombies . But I am used it now .

smolinsk1h ago

The UI is the least of the franchise many problems these days. But yes the UI is also terrible.

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Ranking the Devil May Cry Series

VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "Upon finally finishing Devil May Cry 5 recently - after it spent several years on my “I’ll play that soon” list - I considered giving it a fittingly-named Late Look article. However, considering that this was indeed the final piece I was missing in the DMC puzzle, I decided to instead take this opportunity to take a look back at the entirety of this genre-defining series and rank the entries. What also made this a particularly tempting notion was that while most high-profile series have developed fairly evenly over time, with a few bumps on the road, the history of Devil May Cry has, at least in my eyes, been an absolute roller coaster, with everything from total disasters to action game gold."

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VersusDMC10d ago

First to last for me...3,4,5,1,2.

VersusDMC10d ago

Me leaving it out should be telling of my thoughts on it. Better than 2 as a DMC game.

Still a good game though.

Exvalos9d ago

What a weird name, it's essentially devil may cry, devil may cry lol

Cacabunga9d ago

Best to good for me: 3, reboot, 1, 5

2 and 4 are trash, didnt like any of them.
5 has very good gameplay variety but i hated the foes.. it is just insects the whole time. Reboot has the best foes for me

Friendlygamer10d ago

3,1,4,5 to me, never played 2. 5 gameplay is amazing but level design was really disappointing to me, just a bunch of plain arenas, the story felt like a worse written rehash of the 3rd and the charater models looked weird ( specially the ladies ). Another problem with 5 was that there was not enough content for 3 charaters so I could never really familiarize with any of them

monkey60210d ago (Edited 10d ago )

2.
Dmc.
4.
5.
1.
3.

God DMC2 was an awful game.
And in case this isn't obvious it goes worst to best

Yui_Suzumiya9d ago

1 and DmC. The rest are unimportant.

DarXyde9d ago

Order changes depending on your focus. I tend to focus on gameplay/fun factor, so...

5, 3, 1, 4, 2.

I really didn't like 4 but commend Dante's weapon diversity. The retreading of old ground was pretty unacceptable to me.

But even then... Still more enjoyable than 2 for me

SeTTriP9d ago

This right here is my order as I thought DMC 5 was amazing and obviously 3 comes after 4 was great and 1 for the nastilgic value it holds 2 was so terrible that my local GameStop gave full refunds to people who returned it.

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Players claim Fortnite ruined Call of Duty by letting in more corporate greed

Do you remember what gaming was like before Fortnite entered the gaming space? One of the biggest arguments was about loot boxes. Now we have conversations about crossovers, battle passes, and community outreach.

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GoodGuy0912d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Idk. Loot boxes did disappear and battle passes and in game purchases are all cosmetic. We get free weapons and maps post launch, any gameplay affecting content. I could care less about all the cosmetics.
I absolutely hated the days where weapons were locked behind a less than 1% chance lootbox pull where it'd take 5+ hours to have enough tokens to do a single pull and lazy remastered/remake maps cost you $15 each wave or $50 for the season pass that you didn't know what you'd get and these maps were only available to those that bought it so you get a smaller pool of players match with.

Tacoboto11d ago

The "good ole days" are actually what drove me away from COD and Halo 3/Reach. Halo 4 becoming a COD-like drove me away from that only a week or so after it launched and I beat its campaign.

It sucked way back then, going a month or two without playing online-shooter-of-the-moment, and then needing to buy a $15 map pack to play with the majority of the population or your favorite playlist. The "community" rejecting Spartan Points in MCC killed that game's support, too. No revenue = no support, plain and simple.

Cacabunga10d ago

That headline could easily be something Spencer could have said 😅 I had to check if it was really an opinion piece

KyRo10d ago

As times gone on, the COD battle pass has got ALOT worse so they can push people to buy the more premium battle pass which itself is a huge rip off and nearly half the price of the base game.

The cosmetics can be fine but they've taken it to far to the point of no return. Why make a military themed game then have rabbits, dinosaurs, cats, rats & z list rappers as skins? You wouldn't add a Lamborghini to a fantasy RPG to replace a horse and you would never see Mario have limb dismemberment because they know what they are. COD is having identity crisis but kids and streamer but then all

franwex11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Call of duty can simply not copy the bad aspects of Fortnite? Or is that too out of this world? Like COD, a realistic shooter-just HAD to have Nicki Minaj running around? Or super heroes?

Inverno10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Exactly! Trends don't all need to be followed. Plus where Fortnite got somewhat better with it's monetization, Acti got worse. Or at least Fortnite has lended itself more to the wacky stuff, and has put more effort and quality into that stuff.

jjb198110d ago

I prefer the battle passes with free maps than the $50 season pass that divided the community. I definitely feel that Fortnite had some influence on CoD having loot boxes with Blackout being introduced in 2018 with Black Ops 4.

PRIMORDUS10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Actually Fortnite bullshit ruined Unreal Tournament. Epic are sellouts and I will never have that shitty store on my PC, fuck them and that shit bag Tim Sweeney. At least the community keeps the games alive, I still play UT2004.

StoneTitan10d ago

I mean cant really blame them for supporting the game that made them the most money and the most people player...ever?

Psychonaut8510d ago

Call of Duty ruined Call of Duty. They needed no outside assistance.

Ra303010d ago

100% correct! The makers of Call of Duty ran out of ideas long, long ago so they take ideas from other games like Ghost Recon, Fortnite and any other FPS game hat had success hell CoD remasters maps that they've remastered several times already then charge you again for it. Call of Duty is simply a cut, copy and paste and then put the $70 price on it every year. Activision and now Microsoft has been essentially remastering Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare every year since it was released in 2007 its to the point it's worse than the sports game like the Madden, NBA and others yearly sports franchises.
@Psychonaut85 is spot on "Call of Duty ruined Call of Duty. They needed no outside assistance"!

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