Call of Duty 4 Supports 4 player splitscreen and 1080p - Images inside

As you can see from these images there is a host of multiplayer options in COd4: Modern Warfare. Pictures include the 4 player split screen mode as well as available game modes etc.

Images start a third way down the page. Many thanks to Adams828 from avsforums for upping these images

[pwnsause]

PS3 1080 at 60fps, wow!!!! is it in true 1080p??? I know the 360 version can support 1080p but with the use of its scaler

[AznSniper]

I was like holy crap! That made me preorder the game as well as the 4-Player Split Screen Online.

[stunt213]

yeaah splitscreen online, this is gonna be such a sweet game

[BloodySinner]

The Xbox 360 and PS3 both upscale. There is no such thing as "true HD". Whatever that's supposed to mean, anyway.

[power of Green]

The 360 can do 1080p native but games have to run at a certain standard MSFT likes and the more complex games use the scaler. I wonder why they have so many pics of the PS3 version but none for PC and 360 is this some sort of Marketing tactic?(get the PS3 fanboys hyped up so they actually buy it).

[shotty]

True HD?
Both consoles can output natively in 1080p if that what the developer chooses, the xbox 360 (I beleive the ps3 aswell) can scale a game written for any native resolution upto 1080p

[mighty_douche]

BloodySinner ... ps3 doesnt have upscaling(on games).

power of Green... "The 360 can do 1080p native but games have to run at a standard MSFT likes and the nore complex games use the scaler" is that a fancy way of saying it doesnt? oh and lack of hdmi = no 1080p native

[harpua]

I know the 360 is very good at 640p at least.

[Meus Renaissance]

@640p

Come on guys, lets not be shabby and instigate a flamewar. Just enjoy the screenshots. The 360 version will atleast have the ability to jump into your friends' games via the Dashboard, and I'm sure the visuals will look just as good.

[ActionBastard]

My thoughts EXACTLY

[Ri0tSquad]

???

Here it says 2
http://www.makeyougohmm.com...

And with this game ps3 will have 25

[Expy]

I'm going to go ahead and guess that PS3's 1080p will be native FULL 1080p. 360, who knows, no box art yet, upscale like Halo 3? Most probably.

@Ri0tSquad: About a handful if I remember correctly 4?

[power of Green]

As long as the devs don't have to come out and apologize for having to work out major bugs and unforeseen issues later on to increase frame rates etc. 640p is A OK.

[ActionBastard]

Dammit Meus Renaissance! When you're right, you're right. I got in the 360 beta and it looked great.

[shmee]

it can upscale to 1080p BUT PS3 can run games at 1080p NATIVE eg RR7 and NGS @ 1080p @ 60 FPS

[Kleptic]

1080p out of HDMI is only a limit on BD...not games...Blu Ray apparently won't play 1080p unless through a HDMI cable, because of whatever license stuff they put in place...Component cables are capable of carrying a 1080p resolution picture though...and the 360 can do it through component...

The Darkness is the only 360 game that I know of that was native 1080p...and by native I only mean what it says on the box...bot PS3 version and 360 versions said that...whether that is scaled or not, I have no idea...which makes it not native at all...the whole "supported output" stuff is annoying in the first place...One would think that the highest supported output would be the native resolution of the game...but instead they can say it supports 1080p...because of a scaler...which doesn't mean anything to the end user...your TV will upconvert any signal to 1080p size...be it a PS3, 360, or PS2 game...the supported output basically says "this game will fill your whole screen"...it doesn't mean anything about the native resolution, which is all we care about...

Since MS didnt' explain to anyone what the 360 was capable of resolution wise since launch...and since Sony only shouted Full HD over and over since launch...its not wonder there is this much confusion going on...

however Bloody Sinner...True HD is a type of 7.1 surround sound...and the PS3 is definitely capable of games that are native 1080p...it had native 1080p games before sony released the firmware that allowed software upscaling (that was back when some 720p games wouldn't scale to 1080i, instead went down to 480p...they fixed that since)...

in either case...Infinity Ward confirmed in one of the interviews linked on this site that the PS3 would run 720p @ 60fps...it was around all that Madden garbage, and was for a playstation website or magazine...so they did not mention anything about the 360, which I figured is the same...

[power of Green]

Come on that was a legit question!.

No info on the other versions have been revealed yet really, the fanbases for the other two platform are bigger and will sell way more copies.

People wan't to know about the other versions. I mean lets be real doesn't the 360 version have more Multiplayer features?. This odd behavior is obviously a marketing tactic to get people to purchase the game on all three platforms(they've payed attention to how the hype works this gen and what motivates each fanbase's game purchases).

[SIX]

This would explain why the PS3 version ( from what early reports say) would be sharper.If true, I think this would be the definitive proof that the PS3 is more powerful. I can also see this convincing alot of my xbox buddies to finally get a PS3. That's all they where waiting for is proof. Lets hope this is it.

[DreamTension]

Are you that stupid?

Not only do the new Premium and Elite have HDMI connections, but native 1080p can be achieved through both component and VGA.

The 360 does have an HD-DVD ad-on that plays movies natively 1080p through Component and VGA, depending on your TV. Most new 1080p TV's only diplay the resolution through their HDMI inputs, but most people don't have one anyway.

http://gear.ign.com/article... (keep in mind HDMI has been added, most likely to enhance the HD DVD support)

I would rather a developer use the resources available to make the gameplay better(# of objects on screen, physics, framerate) rather than going from 720p to 1080p. Sh1t, I dont even have a 720p TV, let alone a 1080p. And that's true for most gamers.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/xb...

Damn fanboys. I usually dont type, only read.

[ActionBastard]

VGA:

HD DVD - 1080p resolution and all others
DVD - Upscaled as high as 1080p resolution and all others
Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games

Component:

HD DVD - 1080i resolution maximum, limited by AACS
DVD - Upscaled to 480p maximum, limited by CSS
Games - 720p games upscaled to 1080p, also supports native-1080p games

[rofldings]

@DreamTension

Lol. Are YOU that stupid ... I read the second sentence in your retarded comment, "The 360 does have an HD-DVD ad-on that plays movies natively 1080p through Component and VGA, depending on your TV. Most new 1080p TV's only diplay the resolution through their HDMI inputs, but most people don't have one anyway."

Please. 1080p over VGA? VGA is analog. Also, 1080p through component is generally only possible on very expensive high end models of TVs.

Also, nigga please @ most people don't have HDMI inputs, they are unbelievably common nowadays.

What's the point in having devs developing 3shi*ty games with 1080p output, when a majority would not be able to use the 1080p output. Have an older xbox, no hdmi, your tv doesn't support 1080p through component? sh*tsux. Now, while you weren't paying attention, I believe your xbox has lit on fire, go put it out ... again.

PS3 .. standard HDMI, standard HDD, standard not a pieceofshit.

[DreamTension]

Do PC's come standard with HDMI Outputs? Do computer monitors come standard with a HDMI input? Can PC games play at resolutions of 1080p and higher?

http://www.engadgethd.com/2...
http://www.hdtvsupply.com/v...
http://www.engadget.com/200...
http://www.hdtvsolutions.co... (after the update was able to get 1080p through VGA with the 360 HDDVD player.)

"Nigga please"? Are you like 13 years old?

Why would you want to spend twice as much time and money to make 1080p games when most of your potential customers are more interested in buying Blu-ray movies?

[rofldings]

No. DVI-D is what is standard on PCs rather than HDMI, it uses the same video stream. Also, iirc VGA -> 1080p is only possible if that TV supports it, again ... a very limited amount, most of which are sony bravias.. ;)

[power of Green]

#1.18. I agree with you calm down. lol

You asked me if I was stupid for saying the same thing you said in your post?. Why are you getting all crazy, that energy is more useful aimed at the people who are actaully dissagreeing with you not the people agreeing. What you're saying is common sense to most people who owns the 360 and a HDTV( I have 3 HDTV's and Two 360's you're not teaching me sh*t matter of fact I said the same god dam thing.

I own both the 1080p native 360 games(Ana" scales NBA Street Homecourt and Virtua Tennis for any TV) the fanboys are talking about the limits of some Sony HDTV's and the lock on BD movies thus the confused Africanized honey bee like behaviors.

[DreamTension]

I meant to say 1.6 & 1.14

[Ahhhh]

Can't wait. It will look great playing on my 360 and on my Sony HDTV. =]

[Darkiewonder]

I don't know. I want UT3 ehhh. I'll see how things pan out.

[mighty_douche]

get both?

rob someone...

[Darkiewonder]

But something tells me if I get it both for PC I can save money [not getting it for ps3 or 360] but IDK.

Hard choice :o

[Heaven_Or_Hell]

Very Very impressive

[Shaka2K6]

Best on PS3.
finally game devs taking the beast that is the PS3 seriously.

Cell+RSX+Blu-ray+best online no lag = Real next gen. gaming baby.

dvd game?
lag online gameplay?
paying to play online?
no 1080p?
LMAO.

[mighty_douche]

but carry on with your console wars...

[unlimited]

yup its free online ...dont have to pay 50 dollars like xbots..

[Ri0tSquad]

of the console version.

[ruibing]

I used to only buy PC games but then I got tired of having to make compromises between graphics and upgrades for my desktop every few years. I blame the developers and graphics card drivers for not even trying to optimize games for specific graphics card anymore.

[Meus Renaissance]

Have just sold this game to a alot of people. Infinity Award should have released screenshots of this quality; the ones they have done so, so far, have not impressed me but these ones do.

[Meus Renaissance]

To Infinity Award in showing developers how its meant to be done in terms of multi-platform games. The PS3 version looks incredible; EA, Ubisoft and the pretenders - please direct yourselves towards the cliff and jump. Thank you.

[Salvadore]

Thank you Infinity Awards for showing developers how it's properly done and to the rest of you "lazy" lots, learn from the masters.

[Darkiewonder]

Point the 3rd parties developer that says "It's not possible" or the ones that are just stupidly lazy or pretends to not know how to program lawlz.

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[Meus Renaissance]

Gabe Newell is having his comfort food right now; 100 doughnuts, 5 steaks, two pasta dishes, a dozen Big Macs and thats only the Starters.

He looks like an idiot after this.

[mighty_douche]

im a huge fan of valve, i still think HL2 is the best FPS going, still this guy only cares for pc, its not like he cant do it for consoles, more like he cant be assed.

fat f....

[crck]

Its cool when friends can come over and we can play through the campaign together.

[BrownPowerzz]

There will be no co-op at all, only multiplayer-splitscreen! :-(

[mighty_douche]

umm looking at the back of the case the ps3 version supports 18 players, doesnt the 360 only support 16? woooooooooo1!!!!!

[ActionBastard]

Add me to you lists (PS3 of course) fellow COD fans! Action Bastrd

[Heaven_Or_Hell]

Funny if it's true xD

[TheExecutive]

I agree that the PC version is the version to get. I think that it is awesome, however that it is 1080P and 4 player splitscreen. I just wish that infinity allowed mouse and keyboard on the PS3, they really should have done that. Oh and cross platform would have been really sweet.

[Heaven_Or_Hell]

Ok, so, yeah, I'm one of the Infinity Ward programmers. I won't even pretend to be objective about our game, because all of us at IW love it (duh). That said, I see some questions coming up repeatedly in various threads...

1) We don't support keyboard and mouse on PS3, sorry.

2) No rumble (DS3) support - we found out about it too late to add it to this game. Hopefully next time around, though!

2) Yes, the PS3 version does support voice chat (bluetooth and USB mics supported.)

3) There are minor visual differences between the 360 and PS3 versions, due to the platforms being extremely different from an architectural standpoint. This results in us having to make different tradeoffs on both platforms to hit our framerate targets. They're very nearly identical, but you'll be able to pick screenshots in which both versions are "clearly" the better version. They're as close as we could make them without going completely batcrap insane (though whether or not we are already completely batcrap insane is a matter of some debate.)

Tradeoff example: Shadow filtering. We use different techniques on PS3 and 360 to filter shadow edges, which gives them a bit of a different look. I think it's a matter of taste as to which way looks better, but we did it that way because it was the most efficient way to do it on both platforms that yielded a look that was good enough.

Sorry for you ! posted by a Infinity Ward developer on Neogaf

[DEADEND]

Dude just get this it should work just fine, and it if your a PC gamer then you should have a big edge over other people online if you use this

http://www.amazon.com/Split...

[DJ]

I was wondering how you guys do the shadow edge filtering on PS3. It's something that really bugged me in Motorstorm and Heavenly Sword, but a lot of newer titles like Ratchet, Uncharted, and Killzone seem to have eliminated shadow aliasing. Just curious. =]

[Hapimeses]

Man, that looks sweet! Gah! I was holding out for Haze for my FPS fix as well, but this looks almost too good to be true.

Bah!

Looks like I may have to get both, my wallet be damned.

:)

[Salvadore]

Is it possible to invite friends on both console versions?

Edit: Invite a friend to join a server your playing in.

[Heaven_Or_Hell]

You mean splitscreen on 360 ? Cause we already know that the PS3 version can do i.

[wil4hire]

let alone 1080p..

It has shown it cant do it with a complex engine.

Lets let the AVS nerds figure out what res is what... until then... Im getting this one for the ps3 or the pc... tossup between the two.

[BrownPowerzz]

stfu

[Real gamer 4 life]

Why do they only showcase the ps3 version? everytime i see a call of duty screen shot is the ps3 version. I wanna see the xbox version so i could compare between the both of them.

[wil4hire]

yep.

[Real gamer 4 life]

Why cant the 360 push this game at 1080p??

[DJ]

The PS3's GPU has a full 22GB/s available to it, while the 360's GPU has to share all of its bandwidth with the 360 CPU. Devs try to split the 20GB/s memory bandwidth of the 360 in half: 10GB/s for the CPU, and 10GB/s for the GPU.

RSX has an advantage in pixel processing and dot products as well, so that helps with 1080p resolution. You can thank ILM for that.
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Edit for Norwegian: PS3 CANNOT upscale PS3 titles, which is why when the packaging for a PS3 title says it supports _____ resolution, it's a native, not upscaled resolution.

[BrownPowerzz]

If someone shows me an official statement from IW that says PS3 runs in native 1080p, I will admit I was wrong!

...but until then, PS3-trolls can keep on dreaming!! ;)

[DJ]

better textures, and runs at twice the resolution of the 360 version (1080p vs. 720p), but I thought they were just BS'ing about the resolution thing. Guess not?? o_o

[gnothe1]

is it me or is these sony boys all crazy about specs!! they claim the games is awesome not because its a good game but because its 1080p an 60fps. seems like to me thats all they have to announce an the sony boys are there.

DEVELOPER !! we have this new game where a chipmunk goes up an down the tree eating nuts with big guns to shot the nuts of the branches.the bigger the gun the more branches you break. an its in 1080p!!

sonyboys!! awesome, take that xbots, another game that runs in 1080p for the PS3.

instead of focusing on the game they play specs. they dogged Halo 3 for being native 640, but it still looked,played an sold better than that 720p RFOM. you guys should please stop playing the numbers game an play the VIDEOGAME.

[DJ]

It's just a bonus to have 1080p resolution; there's no reason to get angry over the 360 version running at 720p. It's common knowledge that it's just a limitation of the hardware, and I for one am glad that Infinity Ward is pushing each system as hard as they can.

And I'm not sure why you're hating on Resistance, especially when it's such a great title and has sold (last time I checked) 2 million copies worldwide. Saying that Halo 3 is better is just too objective; it's safer to say that you simply prefer Halo 3 over Resistance, which is much more believable.

[lil Titan]

i need to get this game quick, Rfom is good but ive been playing that since the PS3 came out not that it isnt good but its time for a change even though when the update comes out im going to be playing Rfom again

[gtgcoolkid]

Haze is delayed by a week. No biggie. I am gonna get both.

[Imalwaysright]

Wow great job Infinity... Now how can someone say that those guys at EA arent greedy and lazy bastards??

[apoc06]

i agree. its becoming apparent that all we've been hearing over the months is just excuses

[zonetrooper5]

I could probaly run this game on my PC with better graphics, 64 player online which is free, 8xAA if I really wanted compared to the poor 4xAA for the PS3 and 360, plus its cheaper to buy it for the PC. Looks likes like the PC version is already kicking some ass.

[Martini]

Look 'ma a PC fanboy ... WOW !! :):)

[mboojigga]

Yes it is cheaper....after you have spent thousands of dollars to run the game at those settings. Nice try though Sparky.

[xg-ei8ht]

16-18 players is probably a fit for the maps they are using, its nothing to do with specs, see bf2, 16,32,64. But they are big maps.

On the side of resolution, It depends on what system your running.

Kinda like the all powerful 8800gts,gtx. 1920x1080. 30fps no aa. Crysis.

Yes crysis is a great looking game full up, but on lower details it looks crap, and yes i've played the demo on a 8800gtx. O/C with a 3ghz quad core. Crysis I don't think will sell as much, and will have alot of returns from ppl not being able to run it properly.

Sorry for being off topic, but of course pc gaming is cheaper, Because everytime a new game comes out, nothing is set in stone, that it'll work, without patch for your system.

I am a pc gamer, always have been, always will be to some extent, but i give credit where credit is due.

Both 360 and ps3 push out visuals that are as good as nearly every pc game there is. Only diff is some textures and some res.

So i think as ps3 has come down in price £299. that is a good buy for ppl who will keep that console, and over time, is a good investment, considering no upgrade needed, unless we are talking hd. Which is easy and cheap.

I know I know, off topic, but i'm already impressed with ps3- 360 games.

[Dragonopolis]

8xAA version at 1080p at 60fps. I don't know of any $1000 dollar or less computer DIY or Retail that can do it yet.

That said, if you pay over twice as much for a gaming rig you would expect at least 2x the performance so there is no comparison here.

Also, so what if PC games are $10-$20 less. I love math so lets do some (I bored I need to get back to gaming). Let us say that you can buy a $1200 rig that can perform at the above specs. I will use a $400 PS3 as an example but should work for xbox 360 as well:

How many games does a PS3 owner have to buy to equal the price of your awesome $1200 PC. We do this at $60 a game for the PS3. There is a $800 difference between PS3 hardware and the PC divided by $60 gives us approx 13.3 or 14 games to before cresting the cost of your computer 14 x $60 = $840 dollars + $400 PS3 = $1240. Coincidentally (now people know why I pick the $400 PS3 :wink:), one PC game is $20 less = $40 + $1200 PC = $1240

$400 PS3 with 14 games @ $60 a game = $1240

$1200 PC with 1 game @ $40 a game = $1240

Just to be fair let us make the PC gamer buy the same amount of games as the PS3 gamer.

$1200 PC with 14 games @ $40 a game = $ 1760

If you are an HD gamer looking to spend no more than $1500 to $2000 over the lifetime of the machine look no further than a PS3 or Xbox 360 - you will get a much more enjoyable experience because more options will be available to you (as well as games) Spending hundreds more just to up the sampling a bit and maybe a slight more physics but frame rates will probably average around 60 fps.

True PC gaming the way it was ment to be played is with a a $2000 to $2500 Dual GPU configuration capable of 2560x1600 resolutions. Granted the monitors are only 30" and have poor contrast and brightness compared to what the PS3 owner may purchase for viewing HD movies but the monitor will be sharper and have better color accuracy which is better for games that have a mixture of both text and graphics. However the PS3 owner will more likely be hovering in the 40" category so will have a bigger Screen but.... all this extra for quality movie playback will be at a cost disadvantage about $500 more ($2500 for a decent 40" HDTV)

Total cost wrap up over the life of the system:

$400 PS3 w/27 games($60/game) approx. $2000 + 40" HDTV = $4500

$2500 PC w/13 games($40/game and PC gamers buy less games compared to console gamers) approx. $3000 + 30" Monitor (better for Text,graphics, and color gamut) $2000 = $5000

Not bad a $500 dollar difference and gaming beyond what PS3 or xbox 360 is capable of. However if You want ultimate HD movie experience to go with you gaming and you can manage to lower your gaming standards a bit the console is the better deal but.... take out the HD movie bit and High end PC gaming is the better value - emphasis on gaming. Of course if you got another $2500 to blow you can have the best of both worlds but wow! that is a lot of money (remember neither of these examples has bought movies yet)

What started out as a bored person doing a little math magically transformed into a boring semi-helpful comment that might help gamers who are struggling with the PC vs console issue. It really boils down to how much you are willing to fork out and how important gaming is to you. Both do HD gaming and both have a place in this little world.

There is no reason to bash or compare a console or PC because both are built for gaming targeted at different kind of gamers. The only thing now is to decide what kind of gamer you are and how much you are willing to pay for it.

[zonetrooper5]

Well its depends, making an FPS and a sports game are two different things, both AI, graphics etc wise.

[Martini]

According to charlieoscardelta.com (official COD 4 website)both consoles will run at 720p 60fps

"----------------------- ------------------------------- --------------------------
COMMON FOR CONSOLES ONLY

Does COD4 feature any split-screen options?
Yes, Call of Duty 4 will have 4 player split-screen on both consoles.

At what HDTV resolution can I run COD4?
The output resolution on both consoles are 720p for both consoles. "

So you will need XBOX 360 if you want to play COD 4 in 1080p thanks to ANA (upscaler chip inside 360) :)

[mboojigga]

Actually the PS3 does upscale to 1080P. Just some dumb asses in here who can't read, confirm, or actually put the fanboyitis down to understand the game was never stated to be NATIVE 1080P on either console. But you can't explain this sh*t to kids they have to learn the hard way.

[Iceman X]

Last time i checked DVD could not do HD that is why Blu Ray and HD DVD was made. So... i ask if 360 games are on DVD how are they HD??? lmao They are not they are ALL being upscalled. And since they are using DVD they are stuck with 5.1 Dolby Digital audio no 7.1 PCM uncompressed here. Sorry guys but if you want Full HD 1080p/True HD7.1 pcm audio (with no upscalling) you will have to get a PS3 this is the ONLY True Next Gen console.

[Martini]

idtio

[mboojigga]

See this is why parents need to have Parental locks for dumbasses like this one.

First of all WTF does this have to do with COD4.

Second it was never confirmed to be 1080P for either console which a poster just confirmed on the official site both games run at 720P.

Kids this is not an example of your brain on drugs this is just a ignorant fanboy wannabe know it all assume too much who probably doesn't have a PS3 to begin with or the sound system to even run 7.1 or the display to do 1080P. The point is.........get educated.

[BrownPowerzz]

Thanx for being straight and TRUE ... unlike the kids here who seems to be dreaming up their own "truth"

[jackdoe]

You sir are an idiot and an embarassment to PS3 owners like myself. Get out.

[Shaka2K6]

dvd vs Blu-ray ??? mmmmm
16 vs 18 players online ??? mmmmm
$400 vs $800+ to play cod4 on PC the same as PS3???? mmmm
21 inch monitor vs. 46 inch HD tv 1080p ???? mmmmmm

PS3 > PC.

[ultraviolentz]

pc versions will always be potentially better graphically, but you need a $2000 pc to have enough powah for that. pcs with gpu less than 8800/2900, will probably only play well at lower settings than console

@Shaka2K6 - if you make that a 24" monitor, it can support 1920x1200. you can also play pc games on a 46 inch tv... grats on fanboi

[Funky Town_TX]

If it looks good who cares. You tech whores drive me crazy. Supports 1080p is not the same as Native. Ps3 has software scaler and must be done by dev. 360 has hardware scaler and nothing is required from the dev.

[ActionBastard]

Yet, more PS3 games run native 1080p than the 360. Why is that?

[Funky Town_TX]

80% of the guys on here don't even have a 1080p tv/monitor. I have one but I just need 720p and a kick a$$ framerate. Last I checked this game was like 5 hours long. I hated the online play of COD2 so I just may pass.

[jackdoe]

That would be sweet. CoD 4 is looking like a must buy with each passing day.

[THE TERMINATOR]

Ps3 doesnt upscale to 1080p or 720p it cant. If a game mentions support for 1080p it is the native resolution. Go do some research.
Martini, your just a silly fanboy if you actually LOOK at the PS3 box it says SUPPORT 1080P. Why cant XBOTS accept this? Deal with it and move on.

[Cysquatch]

It's 720p native but supports 1080i and 1080p (with upscaling). Its not native 1080p. Like it matters. Even if it was locked at 720p, this game will blow any other FPS out of the water on both consoles. Come next week, both the xbots and delaystations are going to be happy. Accept it and give each other a hug.....f'n clowns.

[CG]

BOTH VERSIONS WILL BE RENDERED AT 720P, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 360 AND PS3 IS THAT THE 360 HAS A BUILT IN SCALER WHICH CAN SCALE UPTO 1080P WHERE AS THE PS3 HAS TO HAVE A SOFTWARE SCALER THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE DEV!

JUST BECAUSE A PS3 OR 360 GAME SAYS 1080P ON THE BACK DOESNT ALWAYS MEAN THE GAME IS RENDERED AT 1080P YOU DUMB ASS'S.

[BrownPowerzz]

Accept that it also says 1080p on the cover of HALO3.. BUT it doesn't mean that it runs in native 1080p. It's upscaled, like it will be for both the PS3 and 360-versions of COD4.

Deal with it!!

[zonetrooper5]

Depends on if your buying a computer from Alienware for example, they are great computers from there but they charge so much when you can build a good computer for £800 and be happy with it. You don't need to upgrade every 6 months because a new graphics card came out, only the really hard core PC fanboys will do that. My graphics card is a Geforce 7950GT OC 512mb PCI-E and my processor is oldish - pent 4 processor clocked at 3.06GHz.