Sony 'knows cross-game chat is a huge thing'

But no news despite Vita getting feature, says Europe boss

[sinncross]

Well Vita getting the feature is definitely a step in the right direction.

If the Vita access your current PSN account it seems only natural for the PS3 to get teh feature soon then you'll get cross platform chat!

[Godmars290]

Thing is given whatever method they're doing it on the Vita, why can't they do the same on the PS3?

Or, just like the Vita, its not ready for release so they're not ready to announce it being on the PS3.

[Persistantthug]

If that's true, then they'll have a "rumble" situation where they'd have to pay alot of money to get it, only, unlike Rumble, Cross Game Chat is not something most people will use.

Edit in:
To the disagree and future disagrees....

There's only so much budget and resources Sony has for R&D to add apps and features. If Sony indeed has to pay for Cross Game Chat, then apparently Sony has already made its choice about whether its worth it or not.
Personally, I'd rather them put the resources into other things rather than MORE chat features that more than half of the current PS3 base doesn't use with any kind of consistency. And please don't pretend that you don't know what I mean. Go into any game (excluding COD because I've never played any COD game on my PS3 ever), and hardly anyone chats....so why put already limited resources into that?

EDIT @ v1c1ous.
Apparently Sony has already spoken for the majority, so Don't get mad at me.

[v1c1ous]

if you play with people online, you more than likely will use it one time or another. don't try to speak for the majority,

[WombBat]

Honeslty dont know how you guys lived without this feature, i use it every time i get online.

[Peaceful_Jelly]

PS3 can't due cross-game chat probably due to ram. Remember that the PS3 only has 256MB of ram and its OS is twice as big than the X360 OS.

I know you're gonna tell me that the PS3 has 512MB and it's true but that other 256MB are from video memory for the GPU and it can't be used for the OS, just for graphics and cross-game chat would be part of the OS. The X360 has Shared Ram and that is more flexible/versatile even though is slower.

Another thing is that the NGP has a lower resolution output. The lower the resolution the less Ram you need.

And about the patent, Sony created the MOVE even though the Wii-mote was patented. =/

[captain-obvious]

i bet they are holding it off
so they can market PS4 with it

if NGP can do it
so dose the PS3

[Washington-Capitals]

Only people that say cross game chat is useless are mindless sony fanboys who for some reason find some reason to defend the fact of having LESS features is somehow a good thing. How stupid. I would kill a bear to have that feature. Currently i have to have conference call with my cell phones to privately chat with my friends when im online.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

MS has a patent but Sony can just have it as a cross platform chat, that's not infringing because MS doesn't have a gaming handheld.

[No Way]

Same here, if I'm signed into live, and certain people are online..
Well, then, I am going into a party chat with them. It's just how it is.
It's a habit, now, just like opening the disc tray from the dashboard.

When on my PS3, I feel lonely.. But, could be as I have a shitty headset.

[NarooN]

It's because EA went apeshit a long time ago when the system first released. Sony considered putting it in (this was before in-game xmb) but EA literally threatened possible legal action and stopping production on any PS3 versions of games from that point on, just because a few of their shitty games were poorly-built and couldn't even work with in-game xmb.

It has nothing to do with Microsoft having a patent on it. A patent doesn't mean you can't do something, it just means you have to pay a small sum in royalties. This wouldn't bother Sony, but they were still concerned about that EA bullshit.

[n4gisatroll]

Persistantthug:

You've never played socom either huh? In socom confrontation nearly everyone uses a mic, except for random nights, or early mornings everyone I play with uses their mic. So I think your generalizing just because a few games.

[Zynga]

@Peaceful_jelly

You are absolutely right man! Dead on.

Don't you guys understand what peaceful jelly is saying is right. IF the PS3 could do it then the feature would have been released a long time ago. Otherwise we wouldn't be having games like uncharted.

[Skip_Bayless]

It's a good feature. Some of you guys overate it though such as the comments above. Sometimes i'm in party with people that aren't playing the same game as I am, and that gets distracting because the conversation isn't relevant to the game. Also playing single player games while in a party is also distracting because there's a lot of cinematics and reading that I need to pay attention to my game.

I do believe cross-game chat is an element that increases game sales. If you see you friend playing it in the party and talking about that game, then it peer-pressures the other people who don't have it to buy that game. This is why xbox has unexplained high video game sales. We understand why Halo and Gears sells a lot but even mediocre games like Rainbow Six sells unusually high.

[achmetha]

@Persistantthug:
The reason cross-game chat is important isn't even related to the fact that no one chats in-game.

1) People want to chat with their friends in-game without being interrupted by others playing in the same game. No one wants to be disrespected or annoyed by someone who constantly tries to but in conversation. I personally don't even plug in my headset because its irritating trying to talk with friends in-game.

2) People want to chat with their friends while gaming, and not necessarily in the same game.

That's why its relavant.

[sikbeta]

Ah, some dudes acting like if XGC is more important than the games on their consoles is so wrong...

Maybe at some point it'll come to the PS3, who knows, maybe they'll use the PSV as the way to get XGC on PS3, sure the PS4 will have it and people will stop crying for it, but then, they'll find another thing to cry for... :P

[ChrisGTR1]

you guys saying sony hasnt done it because MS has a patent are retarded. if they did then why is it in the psp go? it doesnt matter if its portable or not, a patent is a patent. sony hasnt done it because they just technically cant. same thing with voice messages over psn. what your going to say voice messages are patented too?

[fr0sty]

Actually, Peaceful Jelly, you're wrong. PS3 does have 256MB of system RAM and 256MB of video RAM (which can also tap into system's 256 if it needs to), however a feature like cross game chat is not something that would eat up so much RAM that they couldn't do it. Move/eye probably eats up more RAM than that. Also, they have been steadily shrinking the OS RAM footprint with each FW update release.

It is most likely caught up in red tape. Keep in mind that in order for Sony to implement cross game chat, they have to make it work across all games. Even those games that came out a long time ago. Some game developers don't like the idea of their game being made to look inferior in any way. all it takes is one game not working properly with it, and you could run into problems if the developer decides to bitch about their game being excluded and therefore being made to look inferior.

this was the rumor for what was holding things up a while back. harry potter being the game if I remember correctly. threats to pull support were supposedly made when they discovered that game wouldn't be supported in the update for X game chat.

then there's issues with possible patents... many more plausible issues than RAM holding things up. If the vast majority of PS3 games support online chat already, and have since day 1, it makes no sense to say that PS3 doesn't have enough RAM to handle chat.

In the end, it's Sony having to pay the price with the complexities that arise when you try to integrate features into a system that wasn't released with that feature. You have to make it work with every game, which may or may not have been programmed to take voice chat into account.

PS3 has plenty of RAM to support it, but the developers of all the PS3 games that came out in the beginning of it's life were programming for a system that did not support such a feature, so they didn't think to leave room for such things to run in the background. On Xbox 360, it's been a feature since day 1, so all 360 devs know they have to leave enough resources for the OS (which has X game chat built in) to run properly.

Since Sony rushed PS3 out the door without finishing PSN, they now are paying the price. They could put in cross game chat, but it probably wouldn't work on a handful of titles, and those devs wouldn't want their game left out of the mix. So, the feature gets held up in red tape.

[No FanS Land]

@Peaceful Jelly

As for the Move/patent.

sony didn't even need to violate or pay royalties for the move controller.

If you take a look at the system, it's a whole lot different even though it's the same concept.

wii:

sensor bar has leds > wii-mote captures them > sends info to the wii.

Ps3:

Move controller has a led > sends info to PSeye > sends to PS3 via USB.

It's the other way around, that's why.

[Nodoze]

Well said Persistantthug and you are correct. Microsoft has also patented the in game music system as well (which is why for Sony it has to be done in all of the Software and cannot be done on the console).

I was always curious why Sony simply did not leverage Skype to create a game chat network. Now with MS purchasing Skype all bets are off.

[BlackKnight]

Done in all the software, not done on the console....

Huh? Console is hardware, and it runs software. The software you write is ran on the console...

[dangert]

Sony know its huge its sits at the top of playstation share blog and has for years and they ha even had the balls to write about it in there ps3 blogs teasing us about how they know we want it as if somethings going to happen years later i'm still being disconnected from covo's having been kicked out to the main menu of games like streets of rage 2 or even deadnation upon completing levels then waiting like an idiot to join a game again and talk to your mate when you in and loaded

[Blaze929]

according to it's users though - it apparently isn't.

But seeing as it's on the Vita and not even announced for the PS3, I'm guessing it might be a hardware issue. Software couldn't possibly take 5 years years to implement if it's such a huge thing people want. That or just an issue with the XMB itself.

[bodybombs]

no, according to n4g it isnt. everybody i know who has a ps3 wants it. its one of those things that makes it easier to meet up with friends and chat between games.

trying to organize a party on mag was soo annoying when i had a few buddies who were finishing up games they were working on. cross game chat would make it easier for us to communicate while doing other things.

example:
me and my friends plan on meeting up online when we get out of work to have some good ole multiplayer fun, but i get off before them so i start playing another game in the mean time. then as we all start to get off work we hop online. some of us might be on netflix for a quick show of family guy, or on ps store, or on ps home. while youre all waiting for the rest of your group to get on you could be chatting with the ones who are.

if you havent had it, of course you dont know how nice it is to have. if you have had it, you understand what i mean.

[WildArmed]

Hell I want that shit.

Demons Souls + Game chat = :)

Or playing some SP games while talking to buddies is always fun.

I might not use it alot, but it's a feature that'd be a great addition.
Having options is always good :)

[No Way]

As bodybombs said, the majority of N4G users don't speak for the userbase.

[BlackKnight]

My cousin in AZ first has to call me on my cell so we can talk about what game to play and let eachother know what we are doing and so on. Not use some stupid slow ass txt/email system on the PS3. Once we get that all sorted out with many games having NO INVITES, we have to search up servers to choose to join.

Ridiculous.

[gamingdroid]

The fact that it keeps getting asked over and over, and that they promised it in the past only to pulled back clearly suggest that it is a big deal.

It is the most sought after feature voted by PS3 users on Playstation Share!

http://share.blog.us.playst...

The opinions on this site doesn't reflect the opinion of the general PS3 owner that clearly wants this.

Ironically, PS2 BC is number two!!!

[kickerz]

Umm I have an idea :) get a 360 for multiplat games that have party chat, and use your ps3 for exclusives and watching blue rays :D just an idea

[sikbeta]

@Blaze

according to its users?

You take N4G too serious man, it's not even an important gaming site :P go to the PS Share-Blog, XGC is the first and most wanted feature...

[snaz27]

yeah they know it's a huge feature, that is requested again and again, by many people... But they just don't give a fuck! How are they going to get your money from cross game chat? So what is the point of them doing it? Btw my blu ray laser has broken now, i have had my ps3 for about 3 years, a good run i suppose... It's just weird how it died though, no warning no error messages, nothing! Just put a disk in one day as usual and nothing happened! I'd not long bought move with sports champions too. Guess i'll just sell it or something.

[dantesparda]

"Sony 'knows cross-game chat is a huge thing'
" And what are they gonna do about it? Nothing! Yeah, that's right nothing! Just like Konami with MGS4 with the trophies! And i know i'll get fanboys hating on me for saying this but whatever!

[pepsilover_2007]

if i remember right it has alot to do with the hardware in that it wasnt built in like the 360 and to add it the PS3 developers would probally have to patch that into the game code and there is alot of games to do that with, where the psvita is a brand new console so they would have to support a huge back catalog

[rabidpancakeburglar]

Well obviously they do. They've been saying that they know for years.

[qwertyz]

it may not be that easy to add it to the ps3 as it may add to the memory footprint of the OS of course if they find a way to reduce the OS memory footprint further such a feature can easily be accommodated

[LilDeja93]

When it comes to the PS3, it will be more or less complete for online gaming, this is one feature that we have been asking for years.

[B1663r]

Obviously there is some technical hurdle, and the PS3 is simply unable to do this. I think it is the meager two general purpose cpu threads that the console offers are not enough to keep the games rolling along and decode multiple audio streams...

I mean that would also explain why everyone encodes their cut scenes in bink video rather than h.264...

The ps3 simply is architected incorrectly to do these sorts of things while a game is playing...

[Optical_Matrix]

No. Fool. Microsoft stuck a patent on it. So Sony have to find an alternate method to implement it. So stop your misguided assumptions.

[Bnet343]

IMO party chat is that one feature that gives Xbox Live the edge. It makes the entire thing more social and just more lively if you want to call it that. I can play any game and talk to my friends while doing it. You would think Sony would of implemented this feature by now, it would def. bump PSN up there against Xbox Live. IDK why the hell it's taking them this long.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

Imagine some or all of your teammates talking to someone playing other game. I'd rather be a part of a focused team.

[Giant_Chibi]

this. I have friends who always want to join in a party chat when I'm playing gears where I need to communicate with my teammates. It's also just as bad when you're on the other end. Every time I get on halo and jump in matchmaking, I end up on a team that is in party chat. It just feels stupid at times. The team is at a real disadvantage when I can't call out that there's an enemy behind them or things like that. Also, when playing a new singleplayer game I like to enjoy the story and immerse myself into the world, but then people will want to join a party chat. It can ruin the experience when you have a social commentary going on in the background about nonsensical things or if they're play cod and calling out things that have nothing to do with your game. It's distracting. These are some of the instances where party chat is a real nuisance. The only time party chat is a great tool is when your team is full of people you know, so you don't have to hear the opposing team trash talk.

[No Way]

How is that an excuse to not want CGC? Sure, that could be annoying.
But, there are tons of people who don't use it, or in team based games.
Really, though, it's best for when you are playing single player games.

[Breadisgood]

I can't remember the last time I played a game while in the in-game chat with people I don't know, and the team actually co-ordinated in some way.

The vast majority of people online are douches, I'd much rather just chat to a friend who's playing another game, or play the game with a group of friends and sit in party chat so I don't have to listen to morons on the other team screaming all the time.

Edit: @Giant_Chibi

Yeah there's time where I like to play a single player game uninterrupted, but you can just turn off notifications or appear offline. It's really a not a problem. I'd much rather have party chat and have to adjust one setting when I want to be left alone, than not have it at all.

[MetalProxy]

Mr Grandtheftzamboni and Mr. Giant_Chibi saved me some time and I agreed with them, thanks. There is a problem with CGC. Its kinda handy but in my experience it got on my nerves. I could go on and on why its not cool but Iam sure someone will try to convince me otherwise and its not gonna happen fellas.

[Cosmo811]

Haha, like you actually *get* focused teams anyway xD

[Prototype]

I'd rather have a limited party chat, or some type of system where if a game requires some sort of team communication then party chat is disabled. Last thing I need is to be in a Socom match and instead of telling enemy positions they're talkin to someone else about their latest gossip/drama

[Simco876]

Maybe one day, might as well just wait till the PS4.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Its not that Sony doesn't wanna do it, but its tough to implement, Sony has to work with its own online architectural functionality in order to get done.

supposedly Microsoft found it tough to build party chat on the system but there architect was just right for it ( though not perfect) its still works none the less.

So Sony has some challenges to hurdle over.

[prodg52]

I believe the whole xmb would have to be rewritten in order to enable this function. The System resources would probably have to be reallocated. Would explain why it has taken so long. Vita's OS was written with this in mind from the start.

[Nodoze]

I think it is time for Sony to consider updating/replacing the XMB. It has grown stale. Even with the avatars and motion backgrounds it is all a bit boring.

[DrFUD]

correct me if I'm wrong but cross game chat is being held back on PS3 because Microsoft has a patent on the process PS3 would use.

EDIT- sorry Optical_Matrix @3.1.1 I started reading at the bottom and had not read your comment before posting. But yeah....you're right.

[Zynga]

@DrFUD

Nope! Your wrong its the hardware that can't do it at all, otherwise it would have been released a long time ago. Just read what Peaceful Jelly wrote bcuz its fact.

[Mr Tretton]

It's wanted by some, sure. But I am very willing to bet, that the vast majority of PS3 owners do not care, and, hell, don't even know about cross game chat.

[Dread]

whatever dude...lol
stop making excuses for Sony. It is an awesome feature dont deny it and please dont speak for the rest of us. It is the main reason why I play online games on the 360 and not on the playstation.

If sony had it and ms did not you would be laughing and critizising ms like everyone does here at n4g.

[Mr Tretton]

I don't have to speak for anyone. Many people have voiced that they don't care about this feature.

I'm not making any excuses, nor was my post a 'defense.'

"If sony had it and ms did not you would be laughing and critizising ms like everyone does here at n4g."

How hypocritical of you.

[BIGBOSS08]

your right. i just said to my cousin, "we need cross game chat". he said " what the hell is that?"

[KDubyah]

So .. are you calling the PS3 fans stupid or ignorant?
The vast majority? Are you kidding me? All of the '77 million!?'
Pretty much everyone I know who owns a PS3 would love to have the feature.
Just because the 'people' of N4G say they don't want it, is proof to me, they do.
You know as well as I do, no one here, a PS3 fanboy, would admit to wanting CGC..
And, only because Microsoft has the feature, so they don't wanna like it. Point blank.

[LeShin]

I don't really care for it that much...if I did, I would've bought a 360. I just pic up my cell and call my mates if they're playing another game which doesn't bother me.

Though it's interesting, if this ever happened, how would Microsoft justify the online charge ESPECIALLY to gamers that are outside the US were most of the services on live are not available to them?

[WombBat]

Thats not the same, i talk to like 5 of my buddies while online playing, if u had this feature, i promise you would use it.

[Persistantthug]

If I was to stick my Uncharted 2 disk in, I bet you less than 50% of the entire game would be chatting.

Same for BattleField Bad Company 2.

PS3 has some chat features that are better than XBOX 360's (13 total private-lobby VOICE CHAT, and has had VIDEO chat for years)...but few people I know use that with any regularity or consistency.

So I have to ask....Why should Sony allocate money and resources (MS has a patent on XGame chat) to give us MORE chat on top of the chat we don't use now?

Does that really make sense? Does it really?

[WombBat]

@Persistanthug

Im not sure i understand what you mean, but all i can say is that talking with your friends and talking with random people are two different things.

xbox been have private chat, and video chat, and now kinect chat, but not many people use these features but everyone uses cross-game chat.

[FACTUAL evidence]

@Persistantthug

You're very persistent indeed. This is the second time I see your comment about no one using chat on the ps3 with no proof at all. Just because the people you know does not use it doesn't mean ALOT of people don't.

I don't see anybody playing halo on the ps3 but does that mean xbox owners aren't playing halo?(just an example, i know halo isn't on ps3)What I'm basically saying is, just because you haven't witnessed no one using it doesn't mean it's not in use frequently. Hell my friends online gives me chat rooms invite EVERYDAY I go online....and i don't even know the people in real life.

I'm saying though, people need to stop acting like there is absolutely no relevancy to XGC at all. It's becoming a ritual for ps3 fans on N4G to dis party chat like crazy. I don't get how they don't dog the crappy text chat, but voice chat is useless? Lol. For the people that complains about hearing people in other games, simply mute your friends, or tell them you'll be back late...TADAAAA! Problem solved, but not yet for sony. They need to implement this feature. Text chat was very useful for me, but sort of a hassle.

[Persistantthug]

"13 total private-lobby VOICE CHAT, and has had VIDEO chat for years"

Was that the part you didn't understand?
If so then you totally made my point.

Sign in, Go check your XMB, highlight START NEW CHAT,and then select VOICE/VIDEO CHAT.

@FACTUAL evidence

From my previous conversation(s) with you on this subject, no offense, but you are disingenuous.
One of the main complaints of PSN is people don't talk and it's largely silent.
You trying to state otherwise, is basically a lie.....basically

And until you "get real", we can't really have a conversation on this, because you don't want to tell the truth.

But I'll tell the truth:
If it is in fact an MS PATENT issue, then I'm glad we don't have it, because I don't want them spending RUMBLE-type money for XGAMECHAT when there's other more important features we can use.

Apparently, Sony agree's with my sentiment.

I'm comforted :)

[solidboss]

@persistantthug
i have 2 question for you, do you own a 360? have you ever been able to use the cross game chat feature before?
you say

"One of the main complaints of PSN is people don't talk and it's largely silent."

that's sony's fault. they did not market chatting or blue tooth very much. its not even bundled with consoles. i think warhawk was the only ps3 game that came withe a blue tooth.
you also say

"PS3 has some chat features that are better than XBOX 360's (13 total private-lobby VOICE CHAT, and has had VIDEO chat for years)...but few people I know use that with any regularity or consistency."

i completely agree with you here. ps3 does have better voice and video chat features...IN A LOBBY. thats exactly where it ends. once you decide to get out of the lobby chat and play a game with your friend you cant communicate until you play online with each other. having cross game chat would keep players in that lobby together transitioning from chat and video conferencing into online multiplayer together and done SEAMLESSLY.
lastly you wrote:

"So I have to ask....Why should Sony allocate money and resources (MS has a patent on XGame chat) to give us MORE chat on top of the chat we don't use now?"

as i explained above we have a better chat feature than the 360 yes i agree but it just limits us to chatting on the xmb. sony should invest time and $ on creating an experience that takes that wonderful video conference/chat and 13 total private lobby voice chat into a seamless transition into online multiplayer think of the possibilities being in a xmb video chat conference with your friends talking and deciding on playing the same game together and the "host" of the chat goes straight into the game and onto multi player taking his friends along with him/her all while still being able to communicate with each other. imo that alone is worth putting money and resources into. and i guarantee more psn users would use the xmb chat. please respond to this post, because i would like to see your reply.

[Knightofelemia]

Hopefully the Vita will allow trophies in the games aswell and a trophy sync. Hopefully a person will be able to access a PS2 library of games aswell over the PSN. Still waiting for Cross Game chat on PS3

[vicechris]

but if sony does add cross voice game chat that mean,
developers will have to go and patch there games from cheaters.
i notice xlb on cod-bo you cant use the party chat when playing some modes.

[ger101]

If that's the case then why haven't they implemented it yet?!

[maverick1191]

the only thing this CGC or CPC on the Vita would be for other vita games and other psp models im guessing though

i have no idea how they are gonna do this

[trainsinrdr]

can someone tell me what cross game chat actaully is?
i've always been hearing about it but have no idea what it does

[scotchmouth]

It allows me to talk to you while we are both playing different games.

[solidboss]

think of cross game chat more like a private chat room with you and a friend, meaning no matter what you are doing (watching a movie on netflix playing a game or listening to music) i would be able to talk to you until we close the chat.

[KDubyah]

Exactly what they said, but you don't hafta be in a game to use it, lol. :P
It's good, say for Black Ops, a friend could be in a game, and I wanna play..
But, I just signed on, and I'm currently talking to him from the dashboard.
Well, we can go into a party, and he'll tell me "Only one minute left in the game."
He'll tell me to go host a game, I do, then I can send him an invite to join the game.
It's very helpful for situations like that. Communicating to join a game together ..
Where as, without it, it would take much longer and be much more of a hassle..

[likedamaster]

The PS3 needs way more than cross-game chat. It needs a complete revamp of the Network UI & system. Downloading games that you then have to update with yet another download & install is complete bullocks(lol Brits). The list goes on & on, but this is one of my biggest gripes.

[DragonKnight]

Lol, I knew this would bring the "OMG TEH CROSS CHAT IZ SO NECESSARY" fanboys out.

Cross game chat is not a huge thing. It's an overrated feature. Sure some people want it, but that doesn't mean it's not an overrated feature.

[solidboss]

i GUARANTEE any and everyone who says that cross game chat is not important or that ps3 users do not care about it are VERY WRONG. cross game chat is an important feature to have because it gives users the option to talk to their friends playing different games or not playing games at all, i.e: using the web browser, watching netflix, listening to music etc..i mostly play psn games online with my best friend and instead of using our blue tooth mics (which we do use time to time) we prefer using a phone. why? because the phone does not disconnect us after we leave a game together which is a problem that many ps3 games suffer from online. they do not let us stay in a squad or party, to transition into other matches so that we could keep in communication. a good example of this is bfbc2, yes you can join a squad and stay with your friend into the next game and so on but if one of you are kicked from the game or leave the match you are essentially "disconnected" from each other and have to go back and join a squad again in order to talk to each other again. if we had cross game chat we would be able to communicate with each other no matter who gets disconnected or kicked or w.e. cross game chat is important and i assure you that if sony were to have this feature many psn users would use it

[DragonKnight]

I'm a PS3 owner (PSN ID NorthernDragon) and Cross game chat is not important. If I want to talk to someone playing a different game than I am, that's what my laptop and/or phone is for. So there you have it.

[solidboss]

okay that is your opinion and i respect that. my question to you is do you or have you ever owned a 360? i ask every one this when i am on this topic because i want to know if they ever had the chance to use the features of cross game chat before..
another question i have for you is what happens when a friend/family member is occupying the laptop or phone? then you would have to wait to be able to talk to your friend. why rely on your phone or laptop when you can have a feature built in that would keep you connected to your friend seamlessly? without having to rely on outside sources.

[DragonKnight]

I don't own a 360. However I don't need to own one to understand what the feature is and how it works. And it all comes down to the basics. Do I want to talk to someone playing a different game than I am, and do I need to do it so urgently that it has to be done via my console? The answer then is No. I'd rather focus on my own game, especially if it's one I'm really into.

As for your other examples, no one uses my laptop except me (though I grant you that that is not universal to everyone) and I have a cellphone (also not universal to everyone). However, I view cross game chat as a luxury, not a necessity. If the 360 didn't have it, I doubt you'd see many saying "gee, you know what I want the ability to do? talk to my friend who's playing a different game than I am, but on my console."

We already have in-game voice chats, and text chats and such. You can't really find one persuasive argument that would make x-game chat any sort of necessity, even from a community standpoint, as it's just another form of voice chat.

But it's like I said, it doesn't mean that people don't want it. I accept that there are people who do. But the idea that comes across about it is that the PS3 NEEDS it, when no one, not even the 360, really does.

[solidboss]

everything i have written was in parenthesis so that you know..

you say
"I don't own a 360. However I don't need to own one to understand what the feature is and how it works."
(you can read/watch all you want about the feature but unless you have experienced it for yourself you would actually understand the value it comes from and why it is such a missed feature in the ps3)

"And it all comes down to the basics. "Do I want to talk to someone playing a different game than I am,
(its not about do you want to i think its about having the option to)
"I'd rather focus on my own game, especially if it's one I'm really into."
(i agree with you here sometimes id like to focus on my single player games and get real into it BUT just having the option to send a friend a voice chat is good enough)

"However, I view cross game chat as a luxury, not a necessity.(i do not view cross game chat as a luxury but in this era of gaming something that should be STANDARD)

"If the 360 didn't have it, I doubt you'd see many saying "gee, you know what I want the ability to do? talk to my friend who's playing a different game than I am, but on my console."

(here is where i have to disagree with you completely. sooner rather than later it would come up. in this era of gaming and technology we are all looking for better and more easier/convenient ways of socializing with our friends if its on cell phones laptops or game consoles. cross game chat is all about conversing with your friends without the inconvenience or a phone or a laptop where that might be occupied. this is not the case with you but it is with many other users. its all about making something less of a hassle and should be the industry standard by now imo)

"We already have in-game voice chats,
(only limited to playing the same online multi player games) and text chats"
(which can be a inconvenience having to go into the xmb, then choosing txt chat and typing to your friend all while being in a online game)

"You can't really find one persuasive argument that would make x-game chat any sort of necessity, even from a community standpoint, as it's just another form of voice chat.

(my persuasive argument is that it would make things more social. its not just another form of voice chat where as we are confined to a lobby on xmb its a form of socializing with your friends being able to talk to them no matter what you are doing on the console making it a more social experience which is EXACTLY what psn needs to be. as another user here said one of the biggest complaints was that nobody talks on psn. to which i replied by saying that sony did not market chatting and blue tooth as much which is why people do not socialize as much on psn.)

"But the idea that comes across about it is that the PS3 NEEDS it, when no one, not even the 360, really does."

(well not for the 360, but i think the ps3 does. i feel that in this generation it should already be implemented just as an option for gamers. just giving users on both the 360 and ps3 the option of cross game chat makes the experience more social which i believe the ps3 desperately needs.)

[thehitman]

To the idiots who saying the ps3/xmb isnt good enough to run cross game chat...... THEN HOW THE FUCK WE USE VOICE CHAT IN-GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I could understand a video chat while in-game being a little hard but just voice chat is something very easy to implement and this is definitively a legal issue Sony to probably hurdle through.

Also to the CGC is overrated ppl if u dont want it or not going use it than GTFO and shut up for the ppl who do because im 100% sure there is A LOT more ppl who want it then the ppl who dont.

[Pillville]

A lot of people saying that MS has a patent on Cross Game Chat. Can anyone point me to any kind of proof of that?

Also, if MS does have a patent, how is Vita able to have the feature?

[DragonKnight]

I don't know if they do have a patent or not, but I suspect that because Vita is a handheld, it falls under different patent laws.

[xYLeinen]

I bet they will incorporate this feature with the PS4 at launch >_>

[Ethereal]

Mark my words, it's coming. Along with new gamer tags that looks like the vita ones. PS3 and Vita players will be able to use the universal party system that will support NOT only cross game chat but cross platform chat. It would be stupid not to, they already have hinted that is it coming with cross platform play. You expect not to be able to talk to those playing on PS3? If Sony plays their cards right, I can see a party system that is universal and being able to play AAA multiplayer games at home and on the go. Vita is literally the console experience on the go.

[guigsy]

I don't know if Microsoft have patented the feature or the PS3 doesn't have the capabilities of running such a feature, but what is clear is that it's not going to happen now. People have been asking for the feature for years, and still they haven't implemented it. I remember everyone asking for an in-game XMB - they eventually implemented it but it was slow as hell. In any case it's a shame for PS3 owners because it is a really useful feature on the 360.

[montyburns000]

to all the Xgamechat haters.

you'll never miss what you never had.

it's a good feature face it. and the douchebags who keep saying pick up the phone.... LOL yeah because im going to pick up the phone to try and get a game going with some the 99 people on my friends list across canada/us instead of pressing two buttons to instantly hit up party chat.

it's not just about Xgamechat too, getting parties going is nice too. three buddies in gears playing some warm up games while our other friends play their own games. no wonder the ps3 is the singleplayer console this gen.

[NBT91]

LoL yeah man cause "the singleplayer console this gen" is obviously the one that does not charge for online play.

I get what you are saying, PS3 fanboys always try to say XGameChat is not important and all that, I am a PS3 gamer too but I would have to be a fool to say I would not love XGameChat.
That said though free online play > X Game Chat IMO, and if I can only have one or the other, free online gaming it is.

[NBT91]

Sony!
Y U NO PUT IT ON THE PS3 THEN?!

In all honesty though, I do not really get why if the Vita can and apparently is going to have it that there is no news on the PS3 having it. Even if they said "Oh, once the PS vita comes out and has X Game Chat, we will give PS3 the same feature." Even that would be great in itself. But they are just saying "No"

[Miiikeyyy]

it's coming. vita's cross game chat pretty much announced it for ps3. i guess it'll come to ps3 when vita comes out. cus ps3 and vita will be able to chat between eachother i think

[StarWolf]

i guess skype is coming to ps3 too huh? i mean PSP had it..

[Miiikeyyy]

psvita allows you to play with ps3 players...so clearly you'll get to chat to them. wipeout hd is an example

[kewlkat007]

I was once told, Ps gamers don't need cross-game chat they got cell phones.

[StarWolf]

Cell phones is the stupidest argument ever. I'm not wasting minutes or texts. I want to continue to talk to my friends after the game ends and we are in the lobby. These arent 20 minute sessions.

"distracting me, different game, blah blah" None of those are good arguments.

[Zanarkand]

PS3- a supercomputer without Cross-Game Chat? Don't give me that shit. Lol

[qwertyz]

ps3 is not a super computer if it is wat will you call a high end pc an ultra computer ?

[Cosmo811]

Of course it's a big thing, it's a *basic* feature that should have been there from the day the PS3 launched!