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Is Sony's 24-inch PlayStation 3D HDTV a good deal for $499?

One surprise that Sony pulled out of its hat at the E3 expo this week was the announcement of a 3D display specifically designed for the PS3 owners. But at $499, does it represent a good buy for gamers?
The set represents a bit of an oddity in that its size may be common.

LOGICWINS4734d ago

I think its a great deal if you feel the need to game on a 3D display THAT badly, but don't want to spend too much money. As for me, I'll stick to my non-3D 42inch :)

Uncharted3Goty4734d ago

but it is expensive other then that its great Tv to have thats if play 3D.

Washington-Capitals4734d ago

This is hardly a deal @499. If you open up a bestbuy flyer you will see you can get a lower end 32" 3D tv for about $449 (LG). Not to mention the specs of this tv have not been released (contrast ratio, black levels etc). So we dont even know how good of a tv this is. If they removed the game and HDMI cable and dropped the price to 399, i would say its a good deal.

I_find_it_funny4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

it's not TV it's a 3d monitor

is it expensive? take out glasses, game, can you find anything better for that price ~370 ?

I think it's aimed at ppl how want little display in bedroom, or people with their gaming setups in small rooms. Many of my friends play xbox/ps3 like pc, on their monitors.
It's not targeted at people who can have big ass tv in living room, rather at those who can't.

I heard it's price will be around ~405 euro

gamingdroid4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

I have on occasions seen 32" LCD in the past for $350 brand name like Sony and Samsung. Unless you have to have 3D, I'd stick with the extra 8" and pocket the $150.

The extra 8" is a lot in surface area which makes your screen significantly bigger than it appears on the numbers.

It might be the cheapest 3D TV, but you are paying a premium to get 3D. You can get a 24" for around $250, that's right half price.

Is it a good deal? Only if you want 3D TV really bad, or just wait for it to be on clearance in 6-months.

From the article:

"Do you want to play PS3 games in 3D badly enough to play on a 24-inch display, or can you live without 3D and game on a bigger HDTV? Which would you choose?"

Ddouble4734d ago

You're forgetting that it includes a game thats $60 as well as an HDMI cable.

callahan094734d ago

@Washington-Capitals: You must be referring to this one? http://www.bestbuy.com/site...

I couldn't find any reference at all on Best Buy for a $449 32" LG. I hope you provide a link if the link I provided is not the one you might have been referring to.

The link I provided is for a 23" LG. It's $349 and does not come with any glasses, high-speed HDMI cable, or a game. I've had experience with these LG's as well and the quality is not very good. The 2D picture is not good and the picture engine can't keep up with high action scenes, it lends itself to artifacting and unintended motion blur. The 3D effect is even worse. I've used this and the iZ3D monitor, they are both monitors that utilize a polarizing effect with polarized, non-active shutter lenses to view the 3D effect, and it's an underwhelming effect on both models, with the technology lending itself greatly to crosstalk and ghosting of the images between the two eyes.

The Sony television is going to be much higher quality than the LG.

Once you've bought glasses and a high-speed HDMI cable for that LG, it's already starting to approach the cost of the Sony TV, and that doesn't account for Resistance 3 being packed in with the Sony, and for the higher quality of the Sony build.

nycredude4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

washington capitals

You guys haven't a clue. Non of those tvs at that that you are referring to are 240hz and they are not 3d. Further more they don't included hdmi 2 glasses and resistance 3. Plus they can't show two people two different screens on the same tv when playing coop mode.

Show me that link you speak of 32 inch 3d tv for $449 and lets see the specs. I guarantee if it exist it is 720p or 120hz.

gamingdroid
Check your facts. How much can you buy a comparable computer monitor of this size that is 3d and 240hz?

IF you guys don't think this is a great deal then you wouldn't know a great deal if it bit you in the ass!

i was going to buy resistance 3 anyway, and I would always use another hdmi cable, and I can use the two glasses for my 52 inch bravia 3d tv. So I'll buy this shit and use the tv for my computer to watch 3d porn I download.

lil Titan4734d ago

a 3D tv with cables, glasses and a game? it think that is far more than a good deal its a steal

sikbeta4734d ago

Dudes, it's a steal, 3DTV + Resistance 3 + Glasses and the damn HDMI cable...

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Active Reload4734d ago

You get more than just the television, so I'm inclined to say yes.

HappyGaming4734d ago

Lets assume we are buying this to use with out gaming PC and that R3 would run on it...

R3=$60
HDMI=$5
NVidia 3D like glasses which cost=$150
24" 120hz 3D monitor=$285
+frame splitscreen (2 full 2D screens on 1 screen)
=$500

Thats a bargain for sure...

Klaykid1234734d ago

I have a 24 inch monitor in my bedroom that I use primarily for gaming. I think this would be perfect because mine cost around 180 dollars during Black Friday. With 3D and that cool splitscreen feature and glasses AND the game.. it's a good deal.

MariaHelFutura4734d ago

I`m pretty sure it`s $499 for R3, the TV, Xtra Glasses and a HDMI cord.

slayorofgods4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

It's still a luxury item. A T.V. the size of a pc monitor for 500 dollars and 90 dollar glasses per person isn't going to hit the mainstream. It's too expensive still.

donnaluke20034734d ago

HDMI cords are cheap, why is this considered a big add on? If you are paying over $3 for an HDMI you are getting ripped off. Do the research and just buy the cheap cables from Amazon, they are even gold plated. What a bunch of suckers!

gamingdroid4734d ago

"Check your facts. How much can you buy a comparable computer monitor of this size that is 3d and 240hz?"

I didn't say a 3D TV and 240Hz, did I? I said a 24" for $250!

"IF you guys don't think this is a great deal then you wouldn't know a great deal if it bit you in the ass!"

Are you one of those people that stock up on stuff because it is great value, despite not needing it?

I buy stuff I use and see a need or want for, not because it is cool and it's a great deal relative to something else.

Fact of the matter is, I see very few people choosing 3D over size unless you game a lot and find 3D enjoyable. Which is fair enough if that is your thing, there is nothing out there as cheap. However, 3D has a premium cost right now.

White-Sharingan4734d ago

@Gumtrol- The TV is 240Hz though, not 120Hz

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callahan094734d ago

It's a fantastic deal!

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

That's an Asus, which is nowhere near the quality of a Sony, and it's smaller (23" versus 24"), and it only supports 120hz refresh, not 240hz as the Sony will. And it doesn't come with a high-speed HDMI cable. And it doesn't come with a game (Resistance 3 comes with the Sony).

And then there's the glasses: 70 dollars each for extra glasses for the Sony, versus 120 each for the Asus: http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

So yeah. It's a great deal.

xTruthx4734d ago

I think he means 1.4v hdmi cable

TheIneffableBob4734d ago

Don't judge a monitor by its brand. Asus puts out some good displays and it puts out some bad ones, and so does Sony.

zgoldenlionz4734d ago

@xtruthx @keisersosay no mhe doesnt mean HDMI 1.4v cause theres no regulations on what a 1.4 hdmi cable needs to include, you can have a 1.4 cable that doesnt support 3D or ethernet. Now a High Speed cable at minimum supports 3D. heres 1 of many articles saying the same http://consumerist.com/2010...

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solideagle14734d ago

totally agree its a brilliant deal people like us who dont even own anything when come to new country like UK lol its a great great deal...
i dont know what else journalists want DILDO with it for free?/s

thanks

ConstipatedGorilla4734d ago

I'm not sure I would have laughed at your comment, if it weren't for your poor english and your good manners at the end.

HappyGaming4734d ago

I laughed so much he reminded me of Borat xD

JsonHenry4734d ago

Just wait, HDMI 1.4a monitors will be launching later this month that will probably be cheaper than this and provide at least an on par visual experience.

From what I've read of other reviews when playing in "splitscreen" mode you see a lot of ghosting from the other player.

iforgotmylogin4734d ago

nope its not a great deal, 3D tvs are gonna drop in price soon especially those with glasses.

24 inch tv for 500$ even if it comes with stuff you can buy a generic 32 inch tv at walmart for 200

the prices are dropping rapidly.

Peenutt4734d ago

lol, did you forget to realize its the PACKAGE that is 499 NOT the tv.

RedDead4734d ago

Best thing about it is that Split screen thing, that is the only reason I would get it

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TheMrMadzen4734d ago

Is this article stupid?? The 499$ deal is for the whole bundle!

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FAGOL4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

The thing is they can make it cheaper by removing the hdmi cable and Resistance 3 game.

I don't really want a massive display for gaming. I have a 42" in my living room and I always find it more comfortable to game on my 24" monitor.

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Tigerfist4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

I'd rather have a same size LED for almost half the price but without the 3D. I've always said that 3D tech is nothing but a lame and anoying gimmick.

But I'l give them one thing, this is a great way to market their 3D features and to make them accessible to a wider audience.

GiggMan4734d ago

I've always said that 3D tech is nothing but a lame and annoying gimmick to the people that don't own one.

nycredude4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

So you don't agree that 240 hz monitor won't benefit you computer gaming? That 60hz is better cause it's cheaper?

giggman
So true. It's only a gimmick if you don't own one. for those who do they know it's awesome. movies, gaming and porn in 3d is awesome.

Tigerfist4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

We are talking about 3D not actual refresh rate or response timing which are two very important things in gaming. And I'm afraid I've seen the so called "awesome of the 3D" it came in the form of lame special effects, story and actual decent plots sacrificed for the glory of the allmighty 3D, expensive cinema tickets and loads of headaches.

So now I ask, if I can play the same game without needing a pair of stupid heavy glasses and with the capability to play for long times without headaches, then why the hell would I want to do otherwise? For shits and giggles? Oh spare me...

I could buy it, I won't buy it and I couldn't care less.

PS: I do have a PS3.

PPS: Stop beeing such fucking fanboys.

PPPS: 3D Porn? LOL... Get a life.

nycrekid4734d ago

Bro different or not they both make a difference in gaming.

"And I'm afraid I've seen the so called "awesome of the 3D" it came in the form of lame special effects, story and actual decent plots sacrificed for the glory of the allmighty 3D, expensive cinema tickets and loads of headaches."

Sorry bro but I own a top of the line 3d tv and it awesome. just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. The only people who call it a gimick is (surprised) people who don't have it.

I play and watch 3d content all the time for hours and have yet to experience migranes or headaches and I have 20/25 vision.

I could buy it, have bought it, and can afford another one. Let me ask you if you couldn't care less then what the fuck are you doing here commenting on an article on the subject?

PS: I also have a ps3

PPS: how am I a fanboy? Maybe you should reread my reply and stop being a sensitive little girl.

PPPS: I am a gamer, I have many lives. Since when does watching porn means I have no life? LOL. Newsflash. The porn industry is as big as the gaming industry bro.

Maybe you should be one to get a life. You are the one commenting on n4g in a thread about a topic you yourself claim you couldn't care less about and calling other people you don't know on the internet names.

theIMP4734d ago

@ nycrekid
Well good for you man, I've tried the 3D thing from a top of the line Samsung and had blurry vision for 30 min. and a headache. Just because you can watch it without these side effect doesn't mean every one can (and yes I know that works the other way as well). My advice to anyone in the market is try it first. It is truly awesome. I thought the effect was bad ass, but it's not worth the side effects to me. It sucks, but really I can live without it. Having said that I also would like to add that if it didn't affect me like that I would game in 3D all the time. I really wanted to play UC3 in 3D, I just can't take it. I guess it's just not for me.

Legion4734d ago

@nycrekid

"You are the one commenting on n4g in a thread about a topic you yourself claim you couldn't care less about"

He could care less about purchasing the item. His comments are actually in line with the question of the post. "Is Sony's 24-inch PlayStation 3D HDTV a good deal for $499?" He gave you his 2 cents. He didn't say he cared less about the subject of conversation just that the item wasn't worth the money in his eyes.

Same here for me... just a gimmick and I would never purchase a Sony product that ultimately can be found at a better price under a different brand name. Sony products are hyped to no end.

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Drekken4734d ago

3D is a gimmick? Have you seen a good 3D display with a HD game? I doubt it.

I bet the display giving 2 players separate views is a gimmick too, right?

Tigerfist4734d ago

Yes I've seen it and I keep my opinion on the 3D just like John Carpenter did. 3D improved but not to the point of making me drool or either overtaking everything.

The 2 separate views is actually a rather usefull feature but not exactly something I need.

nycrekid4734d ago

Drekken

This guy is nothing but a crab, negative nancy, debbie downer, whatever you want to call it. guy doesn't care about the tech, doesn't like it, but feel the need to broadcast it to everyone even though no one gives a shit.

Tigerfist
I have alot of shit in my house I don't need. Do I need a 350 horse power in my car? Do I need two computers? Do I need a big tv? Do i need three gaming consoles and a gaming pc? do I need a nice fridge? Do I need AC? Do I need cable? Do I need a home phone?

Come on bro you telling me you have nothing that you don't absolutely need? Stop being such a hater. I understand 3d isn't for everyone but stop being so self centered.

FFXI1014734d ago

I have seen it and I love it. Not everyone gets headaches(at least I didn't) I was playing GT5 and MLB the show 2010 at friends house for hours.

I don't own one but I love to have the option to watch movie or play games in 3D. I think is a great deal for people who love the new tech stuff or want to experience 3D but can't really spend over 2grand to buy a nice big screen HDTV/3DTV.

Do I wish the monitor is a little bigger? of course I do but I already have a 42" HDTV so I wouldn't mind to get this bundle and share with my friend and family.

I think is a great deal and I plan to get one when it comes out(I was going to buy R3 and HDMI cable anyway)

ivant4734d ago (Edited 4734d ago )

3D is not a gimmick but a method to allow greater immersion in the game/video

I love my NFL and enjoy it much more in HD than SD TV .... immersion. I would enjoy it even more in 3D ... greater immersion in the action.

Likewise with video games.

No gimmick ... just a useful technique to help immerse the player into the environment.

JayD-1K4733d ago

One of the best responses to the "do we need 3d question" I've seen in a while.
Thank you!

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LilDeja934734d ago

Well the ability to see 2 full screens when playing splitscreen is genious.

As for the price, i think its a pretty good deal, especially for those who have been put off 3D TV's because of the price.

thief4734d ago

I am super excited about this technology - would like a bigger TV, maybe 32", but being able to play couch coop without being restricted to half of the screen is sweet.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai18h ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander19728h ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

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@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander19729h ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 2h ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz7h ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay6h ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers29d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken28d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g29d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing29d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H929d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola29d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66929d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle29d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg29d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos29d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola29d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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