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Sony Announces Affordable 3D Display, But is It Good Enough to Buy?

Allen Park writes, "At yesterday’s Sony press conference, Jack Tretton announced the production of a PlayStation branded 3D display, specifically designed for the 3D gaming experience. At 24 inches, a somewhat affordable price of $499, and with the revolutionary ability to play 2-player multiplayer on one screen without split-screen, it’s most certainly the display on the market that won’t absolutely ravage your wallet, but it is actually worth the money?

Immediately after the Sony conference ended, a couple of us were able to take a look at the displays and see how well they worked."

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jerethdagryphon4730d ago (Edited 4730d ago )

um ... did you expect to be able to split 1 240 hz display into 4 60 hertz displays on a tech basis designed for running 2 displays... if so your a fool.

3d glasses take 2 disarate immages and merge them into differing viewpoints

its not so much a mater of the refresh rate as it is slplitting an immage
60 hz or a standard tv fill the screen upto 60 time a second thats fine for standard viewing but for 3d you need to display 2 seperate pictures lets call em a and b if you used iz3d s technique of stacked screens you get
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with the 3d effect emerging as c effectivly in active chutter systems the tv alternates lines
ababababab with the glasses picking out what you need

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on alterating frames faster then your eye can see it so you see both images simutaniosly what this is doing is using both parts of it to display 2 images instead of 1 3d one

ababababab

glasses one picks out player ones immage aaaaaa and glasses b pulls out the remaingng bbbbb

theres no point at which they can make a 3d effect out of that without fundamental changes in the system used
its possilbe that immages c and d could be sent to the tv and displayed on alternating frames but that would require a significant processor and ram for the tv as well as making the immages jumpy

the ghosting was likly mis shuttering of the glasses
its meeant for split screening in 2d on one screen im cool with that

as for it being game dependendt yes... but its based off of split screen tech all it has to do is runn it through a filter

most 3d tvs are 120 hz as 240 hz is costly and comes with a raft of issues

ill probobly get one because i like my sony tech if its bravia based and i think it is then great

metsgaming4729d ago

for me no but it helps alot. For me im not looking for a small screen to play on and i want to see the glassless tv's that are coming out soon.

tweet754730d ago

I think over the next year or 2 ,3d tvs will become alot cheaper and it will become a more standard feature.

InFAMOUS14730d ago (Edited 4730d ago )

I dunno why anyone would waste $500 on a 24" screen... Spend another $300 and get a 50"....

EDIT @ Bobby:

O.K so for the people who are limited to space, why would you spend $500 on a 24" display when you can get one for $250? My argument remains the same... $500 for a 24" display is robbery.. It's 2011, this tech is getting old already and Sony is reallly the only company left over charging for their TVs. Granted, the Bravia series are very durable, reliable and nice TVs; however, they typically run $200-$500 more than a typical Samsung or LG model with the same specs... So regardless of space or even brand loyalty, why would anyone spend that for 24".....

Bobby Kotex4730d ago (Edited 4730d ago )

Yeah, that 50" would fit great in a dorm room.

InFAMOUS14730d ago

not to mention co-op play on a 24" screen..... RIGHTTTTTTT... $500 bucks and you get a 12" screen when a friend is over..... FUN....

nycredude4730d ago

infamous I don't think you get it. First of all 24 inch is measured from corner to corner. Second each person sees their own screen, meaning the entire size of the screen projects a different image. It's a new patented technology. You are trying too hard bro to hate. Why would someone by a laptop or pc powered by nvidia 3d tech?

Sony will sell tons of these, no matter what you comment on n4g.

InFAMOUS14730d ago (Edited 4730d ago )

lol @ NYcredude..

I don't even know how to respond...

I understand the concept completely.. It is not hard once you realize that the glasses are needed to view the image in 2D... It makes itself clear early on.. Second, if you took what I said as hate speech then I actually feel sad for you.. Sad for the fact that you see such negativity in everything you read... I ain't hating.. I am being realistic.. There are already a ton of videos of people showcasing their 40"+ 3D TVs doing the exact same thing... with a few minor tweaks to the glasses and you got the exact same solution BUT you got a bigger TV and paid less... Gee, I wonder which one is wiser...

With regards to what my comments influence on N4G.. LMFAO.. I don't even know why you would make that comment, other then thinking that I or anyone else would actually be swayed by your opinion on n4g... See what I did there? I stopped hating A LONG time ago 'bro' and started being realistic.. There is a difference... This technology is OLD, the only difference is Sony is bringing it out as new and charging you a premium for it.. Like every electronics manufacturer.. They all do it... Hopefully, after posting this I can sway 2 million people from either A) buying a $500 24" monitor or B) Let people know how self centered and righteous you THINK you are...

GrandTheftZamboni4730d ago

Subtract $60 bucks for the game, $20 for the cable.

BISHOP-BRASIL4730d ago (Edited 4730d ago )

But if your room can only fit a 24", you can get one for way less than 500 bucks...

Don't get me wrong, I can see what you mean, there is a market for this small sized 3D screens, but when I hear about 3D TV dedicated for gaming, that's the kind of thing I want on my living room, not a small screen...

I believe most people, when heard about an affordable 3D TV for gaming hoped for the living room TV, hence some of us got a little disappointed.

I'm not saying the PS TV is a bad deal, just that it's a deal many of us aren't interest on. Even if cheap for 3D, 500 dollars is too much money for a bedroom TV where my biggest concern is simply it having a remote control, so I can change channels and turn off without having to hop out of my warm bed.

EDIT: was aimed @bobby

arjman4730d ago

The $500 is for the Tv, two pairs of 3d glasses, resistance 3 and a hdmi cable

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blumatt4730d ago

I liked this when Sony unveiled it. It would be perfect for a teen's bedroom where they wouldn't need a huge TV, but they want to game in 3D a little bit. I kinda wish they would've announced another model, like maybe a 46" for maybe $800.

beast242tru4730d ago

its great buy for my room its 3d comes with glasses and a AAA 2011 exclusive with hdmi cable cumon buddy did u notice the tv is sony??? top shelf @ affordable price = no complaints

femshep4730d ago

"affordable'

but its 24 inches.....k thanks but i like my 40 something inch that isnt a gimmick

dragon824730d ago

after you take away the price of all the other stuff, the tv is like $200. That is very affordable for a 3D tv.

I also prefer my 46" Bravia. I can see the value in this package though, for people with small rooms or college students living in dorms.

sikbeta4730d ago

Gimmick? blasphemy you woman! it's coming with Resistance 3, enough said.

femshep4730d ago

yeah and that is the only nice part i liked.....24 inches is to small for me and 3d is pure gimmick....though the idea of using glasses for local coop is nice....is it wasnt for the 3d

colonel1794730d ago

"24 inches is to small for me" ...

That's what she said....
Really... look above -___-

GrandTheftZamboni4730d ago

"24 inches is to small for me"

It will look bigger if you come closer.

That's what he said.

Seriously, I watch movies on PSP and the picture is fine as I watch them from a short distance.

Dead_Cell4730d ago

A lot of day to day appliances started as "gimmicks".

HeavenlySnipes4730d ago

is 26" and I play games splitscreen and shit all them time. My main tv is 55" but the 26" one is just fine. Add the fact that this can revolutionize spliscreen gaming and the fact that its 3D makes it an insta buy for me.

nycredude4730d ago

I love how the haters all of a sudden like their 40 inch. do you have a computer? When you sit in front of your computer does your screen look small? This is meant for a certain target. If it ain't for you fine but to think just becuase you don't like it doesn't mean there won't be anyone who wants one. You can use this for a pc monitor. How much is a 240hz monitor which can do 3d?

BTW I love my 52 inch 3d bravia but still going to get this for my pc.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers24d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken24d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g24d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing24d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H924d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola24d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66924d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle24d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg25d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos25d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola25d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies45d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken45d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga45d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken45d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6445d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long45d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197245d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12545d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91345d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer45d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91344d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit44d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher45d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6944d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit44d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher45d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken45d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197245d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2345d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218345d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder45d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts45d ago

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