1UP gives 6.5/10 to Ace Combat 6

Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation certainly looks a hell of a lot better than Combats 1-5, but once you get past the incredibly detailed planes and crisscrossing contrails you'll find the same old Ace Combat, still on autopilot. Some gamers will be quite happy with more arcadey shootin' and missile dodging in licensed aircraft. Others may (continue to) wonder why they should care about some arbitrary conflict between improbably-named countries, and an overwrought series of cut-scenes that might actually be improved by a liberal application of signature John Woo slow-mo doves.

[wil4hire]

Another Lair.

[shmee]

It may not be a stellar title but it is not that bad

1up and GS ---2 abnormal websites

eurogamer is another horrible website

clearly the game deserves more than a 6.5

[wil4hire]

Yes, but it got a 6.5

Flop

[the worst]

haha

[Evil0Angel]

MS paid 1 up blah blah

but when 1 bad reviews comes about xbox game every one conculde it rubbish

IGN:give this game 8.5 while it give LAIR only 4.9
gamespot:also give it 8.5

[TheSadTruth]

Wait... if M$ pays 1up to give all their games good reviews then what happened here? How strange...

[masterg]

I've only tried the Demo. 6.5 is not far off if they didn't do major improvements to the full game.

[WilliamRLBaker]

Another lair? no see ms fanboys didn't hyped ace combat to levels of godhood and the 2nd comming of chris...Sony fanboys did this with lair, and lair flopped.

Ace combat even on the sony platform has all ways been an 6.5-8.0 title.

[Foo Skeptic]

1up sucks, I am not a fanboy, I am a videogamer and they reviews looks like if they have not recieved payment or have any interest on the game (like in this review) they put a bad score.
What were they expecting to see? what things they need to put a good score to this kind of games? all are about the same thing, destroying planes, ships, tanks, buildings,etc., flying an aircraft, we all know that, but this game looks great, has online multiplayer, and the better thing is that it´s fun, if the problem is that we are playing the same thing I can tell 1up a lot of examples were I see the same thing again and again on sequels and those got beter scores even when those games sucks
I´m ot interested on 1up reviews anymore, they only want us to pay attention to their idiot reviews for xbox and PS3 gamers

[Jinxstar]

Meh they probably didn't need to buy this review is all.... Errr not buy I mean send a Care package.... They have already established a strong enough foothold with Halo 3 and now are gonna play a little more fair I think... Maybe... Until PS3 starts selling like mad...

I just say the avg User Rating... 4.7... Is it really that bad. I was thinking of buying it but doubt I will now...

[Blitzed]

I will reply to your comment with your own post about the Ratchet and Clank Gamespot review-

"IT IS FUNNY TO C
all this girls crying.
GET OVER IT
R&C SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"

On topic: I am a little bummed since I was looking forward to this,
although I tend to make my own opinions. Probably going to be a rental first though.

[fredy]

short this month on REVIEW money..so this is what we get.

Thanks 1Up..

[wageslave]

No. not "another lair". But *NICE TRY*.

The average of Lair reviews is 5.4 / 10
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Lair is regarded generally by reviewers as CRAP. 5.4 / 10

But, some Sony Fanboys have managed to find a VERY low score for Ace Combat 6.

What are the *AVERAGE* scores for Ace Combat 6?

8.2 / 10

See that? This "6.5" is *FAR* lower than what most other people think of the game.

The *AVERAGE* is 8.2 / 10

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Just for comparison, what does an average of 8.2 / 10 mean?

Well, that is tied with Motorstorm 8.2 / 10 and better than Heavenly Sword 7.9 / 10.

You FAIL. You FAIL badly.

[InMyOpinion]

I thought PS3 fanboys hated 1up and said they can't be trusted?

[lawman1108]

Why should the game be good? When it comes to PS3 all the $ony bots will say its AAA game.

[Seraphim]

Actually, if this was still a PS you wouldn't hear PS gamers crying over the score because we all know the series isn't that great unless you're a die hard fan. :P So a score of 6.5 certainly isn't surprising for any Ace Combat because 6.5-8 is right where they rank...

[colony]

1.7

no... it was Halo you where thinking of... halo

[dale1]

gamespot gives it a ten whats the betting

[MK_Red]

You were sleeping or something? GameSpot has already reviewed it (They did it day6s ago and gave 8.5)
http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

[shmee]

although i disagree with 1up's ACE COMBAT 6 review ....i feel GS should have atleast given Ratchet a 9/10.

[bababrooks]

hey shmee how's it going buddy?
why do you think that ratchet should get a 9 , have you played through it yet. me..........i don't care about scores, if i like it thats what counts.

[cloud360-7th_account]

We ps3 fans and 360 fans both agree that 1up= garbage fuc*ers

[wil4hire]

If its not as Good as Citizen Kane, then its utter crap...

Sick of the "hard ball" reviewers out there... I wouldn't care, but their stupid grades are averaged with the rest.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Why do so many people like Citizen Kane? It wasn't as deep as most people think...

[wil4hire]

Citizen Kane is universally accepted as the standard in which films are Judged. That's all.

Versus grading a film for what it is. Game reviewers do this:

Say an action movie comes out... "Well the action was good, but there was very little drama & comedy in it."

Which is the same thing as saying a single player game has NO multiplayer elements.

[power of Green]

Ouch lol...

[SmokeyMcBear]

you mean that it doesnt make the windshield shatter when a bullet hits the wing?

[InMyOpinion]

Nope, it just bumps your plane out of the sky with no visible damage whatsoever...

[skagrerrrr]

an arcadey type game, Gamespot gave it a 8.5 hahaha

[MK_Red]

Wow, wasn't expecting it. I think it's too low. The game is a 8-8.5 worthy IMO.

[PS3 Limps on and on]

I knew this game was crap.

[cloud360-7th_account]

your funny. Has anyone called u weird.

coz if they did, then dont continue acting weird. Change, and Fu* your ego

Am only joking, do wat u want....

[Bnet343]

I have it, check my profile, its very good, and online is done very well no lag, you haven't played it yet so you don't know anything

[chester]

someone must've pissed in 1up's cornflakes, what with R&C and now this. someone must've told them their site sucks so now they're mad at the world.

[AllroundGamer]

i will get this game because of the story, cutscenes and great music (OST must have for me). the trailers for it were simply the best.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

It definitely deserves a better score than this. I've been an Ace Combat fan for awhile and this one is awesome...

[Darkiewonder]

lol. They need the traffic. Let's not give it to them.

[Dannagar]

Athough the only other Ace Combat I've played is part 4, I'm enjoying this one. I'm not and expert on this syle of game though.

[pwnsause]

wow, 1up is such a wierd site? ac a 6.5/10, IT HAS ONLINE MODE!!!, how is it the same old Ace Combat?? Thats a MILESTONE!!!!, seriously 1up and gamespot are bad sites.

[XxZxX]

yeah jack thompson bought them all. They all anti games now.

[Icecold33]

I liked the demo enough to buy this one. Ratings as far as I'm concerned are simple guidelines. I mostly base my purchases on combined ratings. So, I mozie on over to metacritics and see if it rates above an 8 (my usual buy number)

[Vojkan]

FLOP

[Snukadaman]

Oh wait..your biased....anything on the xbox is a flop too you...way too be biased when you fanboys cry about reviews and websites being biased....your middle name must be pot.

It might be considered a flop but as we speak,it has one point less then warhawk on metacritic.

warhawk 84%
ace combat 6 83%
shouldnt throw stones,especially when your glass house has bugs...

[Bnet343]

-1 bubble for Vojkan

[WilliamRLBaker]

reported as spam and -1 bubble for Kigmal for rubbing it in peoples faces like an ass.

[Snukadaman]

Like it should for you ps3 owners.....if you like the game and buy it you show these reviewers what you think of their reviews....but too claim bias with one website or another is total garbage and makes you all look like little children..lets all wait for the numbers of games sold and enjoy them.

[Imalwaysright]

Yes because Ace is gettings 9 and 10 from other reviewers and was expected to be an AAA title like Ratchet was

[Regret]

AC6 didnt get any 10s. Couple of nines and others are 80-90. Just like Ace Combat on PS2.

Anyone tried game? Seems to slow to me, but i want to hear your thoughts.

[power of Green]

You think becuase that cartoony kid's game with a Rat running around with guns finally produced a high scoring game out of 5 or 6 supposed PS3 AAA's gives you the right to come in here and start a flame war?.

[Game Crazy]

But I thought the graphics were good, and the game was fun. I like to view all the scores on Metacritic, ask a few people who already bought the game, and then if I still have my doubts I will rent the game first.

My point is that reviews are always subjective and as such should not be the sole reason behind why you purchase a game or not. Besides I have seen many a movie that got crappy reviews and was glad I didnt listen to these so called movie critics. Consumers speak with thier wallets.

[Imalwaysright]

I spoke my mind if you dont like it hit disagree button or the ignore button

[Bnet343]

I got the game today. It's good, I'd say 8.5 was the perfect score. The online play is done very well, everyone online knows alot about airplanes and stuff and they help you out. Singleplayer is very dramatic, this is a game to get if you like flight games for sure.

[AnalFace]

Pure flop.. The last good one was distant thunder, that was a flight sim.

[wageslave]

Ace Combat 6 has an AVERAGE of 8.2 / 10 on Metacritic

If Ace Combat was on the PS3, it would be the 4th Highest Scoring game in the entire exclusive library.

Exceeded by only by Ratchet 9.0 / 10, Resistence 8.4 / 10 and Warhawk 8.4 / 10.

It would tie Motorstorm 8.2 / 10.

It would exceed;
Heavenly Sword 7.9 / 10
Eye of Judgement 7.9 / 10
Ridge(!) Racer(!) 7.8 / 10
Folklore 7.5 / 10
LocoRoco 7.2 / 10
and
Lair 5.4 / 10

============

In Short, if this game was on the PS3 -- it would be one of the best games available.

So, kindly STFU.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Why do you care if you like it play it. If you play it thats me on your six with an AIM-9m riding your tail.

[hardcorehippiez]

not quite if this was on the ps3 it would get 5 :p lol nah jj haha

[fishd]

sorry 1up,if you wanna prove that you are not biased by M$ with giving 360 exclusive game a low score, it won't work

[razer]

haha go to the back of the bus fella!

You sound like you actually believe there is a conspiracy against the PS3. WOW! You make me embarrassed to be a PS3 owner.

[power of Green]

I agree I have to wait though too many games to buy. I thought; the over the top Japanese drama gave the game purpose on a human level so what if the countries are fictional its not a bad idea due to wahts going on.

#15, Good games do not flop on the 360 platform, if you like flight games you will purchase this game.

[brothersimon]

they don't realise that this game is actually great. must be mad or something that its infact a 360 exclusive.

[power of Green]

I agree to the fullest I also believe IGN has done this too.

The review points out that its no diferent from 1 through 5 as if all 360 owners played the first ones. I never heard of this game before the 360 version was first mentioned.

[UltramanJ]

The 1up reviews are always a single review pulled from EGM review staff. It's reviewed in the current issue and received a 6.5,6.5,8.
Ace Combat has a hardcore following that will still buy this new installment regardless of a 6.5 score.

[patriotZero]

HAHA by xbox360 burn baby burn

[razer]

You just love that don't you! Someone needs to slap that dead ferret off your face.

Go back to watching Blu-ray movies and playing cartoon games fool!

[brothersimon]

I sense massive failure.

You must suck irl

[TheFamilyGuy]

Um...its average score on Gamerankings.com is a 81%. Just because 1up gives it a 6.5 doesn't mean it is a flop, lol. Here are reviews from other big reviewers:

Teamxbox 8.8/10
GameInformer: 8.75/10
GameSpot: 8.5/10
IGN: 8.4/10
GamesRadar: 9/10
GameSpy: 4/5
GamePro: 4/5

1up gives different a kind of score than other sites. It actually uses the full 1-10 scale with bad games getting down there in 1-4, good ones 7-10, and everything else in the middle. Most sites pretty much stay 5-10 with a 5 being bad and a 7 being just decent.

[Dpa]

Hahahaha thats what we've been trying to tell xbots about with Ratchet and Clank. But nooo, you wouldn't listen, you just said R&C is a flop face it. Well if thats so, Ace Combat 6 is a flop, face it.

[UltramanJ]

Will it still be a flop in your eyes when PS3 gets it's port in 2008?

[Dpa]

You misread, i didnt say it was a flop.
I said neither R&C or Ace Combat 6 are flops, xbots claimed R&C was a flop because of one bad review and now the same thing has happened to one of their games. Ironic justice.

Oh and don't mistake me for some PS3 fanboy, i own both consoles, and actually spend more time on my 360 overall.

[razer]

Well then why even make comments like that?

Anybody throwing around the word "xbot" will lose any credibility with their "oh, I own a 360 blah blah blah"..

[MrWonderful]

is this going to come to ps3? i would like to keep them all on the same platform, but if not i guess ill get it on 360 its no biggie

[Snukadaman]

if katamari and eternal sonata is ..why not?

[prowiew]

Thats not a bad score for a flight game. To me all the flight games sucks. I played the demo and played it for 1 minute. Hate it.

[CrazzyMan]

the game is for those, who love ace combat series.
and nothing more.
and sales wasn`t great.

one bad score means nothing.
well it means only, that some people may not like this game.
but well some people didn`t like geow.

END discussion.

[vgn24]

That has to be it! Wait a second. Maybe the game isn't enjoyable to people outside of flight sim fans?

Nope, I'm taking the Ratchet and Clank stance. Someone paid for this bad review. lol

[razer]

You got it!! That's it and like #30 said.. We need to boycott 1-up and start a petition and cry in the comments!

What's even funnier is the latest review from Cheats on R&C. They actually are STILL crying in that thread about Gamespot and is mentioned in the intro to the article.. They are saying "Oh well Gamespot lost it's #1 spot to IGN now, we showed them!" LOL!! Can you be any more desperate for a good game.. LOL!

[creeping judas]

start an e-mail campaign against 1up
everybody cancel their accounts so that 1up knows we dont like their crap reviews
ill personally e-mail the top boss at 1up and bit*h about their reviews
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sound familiar?

[PimpHandHappy]

get warhawk

[Bnet343]

a Battlefield 2 downgrade? hell no

[WilliamRLBaker]

how to win in warhkaw.

1.never enter an warhawk they are massively underpowered and weak, Get on foot or get in a tank and you are guranteed to take out any warhawk you see.

[Lex Luthor]

spam rocket turrets.

that's if you're able to get into the server of cpurse.

GAME IS FULL GAME IS FULL GAME IS FULL

[Lex Luthor]

spam rocket turrets.

that's if you're able to get into the server of course.

GAME IS FULL GAME IS FULL GAME IS FULL

[Adamalicious]

I haven't played the whole game, but I found the XBL demo really underwhelming - and I LOVED AC4 (5 was OK, but I liked 4 more).

[rukusa]

Hmmm, well thats one exclusive I geuss the 360 can keep.

It hasnt impressed critics all around.

[razer]

"it hasn't impressed critics all around". Are we really going to say if it's not a perfect 10 then it's no good? I don't think you want to go there with the the PS3 library.. The 360 will b!tch slap the PS3 when it comes to high scoring titles..

For the blind and dumb.

Teamxbox 8.8/10
GameInformer: 8.75/10
GameSpot: 8.5/10
IGN: 8.4/10
GamesRadar: 9/10
GameSpy: 4/5
GamePro: 4/5

[mike_mgoblue]

Gamespot rated Ace Combat with a score of 8.5 out of 10.

8.4 out of 10 was the score from two different IGN websites.

Ace Combat 6 is a GREAT Xbox 360 game!!!

*

Go and see for yourself...just download the Demo of Ace Combat 6 on Xbox Live, and you will think it is great!

[mike_mgoblue]

Warhawk was rated only a 6.5 out of 10 from PSM Magazine.

Ace Combat 6 averages a score of 8.5 out of 10.

[doomsonyman]

namco bandi did this on purpoes they said since were not on a sony platform any more were just gonna make the game sh!tty because we hate microsoft but we still have to make the game cuz they paid us off. when will microsoft learn money cant buy friendship or quality

[Myth]

Since I buy games strictly on reviews. If I rent it and think it's great it won't matter cause the reviews won't make it an AAA title. Oh well.

Now how stupid does that sound.

[Bowzabub]

The low score that they will give the PS3 version as it is a multiplat. Who wants to wager that the PS3 version gets at least a .5 lower score??? Anyhow i'm sure it will still sell...OK. We'll see.

[ApocalypseShadow]

but i still await the day when flying games get the speed and action of things like this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

as you can probably tell,i'd rather have speed.or really just a macross/robotech game.no wait i do:i got AM2'S(virtua fighter fame)macross game(jap) on ps2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

it blew away both american robotech games.

air combat is about advantage.whatever gives you that.altitude,speed,weapons,sk ill.also cover.flying games need more clouds.i mean,MORE CLOUDS D@MMIT!

that would be truely next gen.ace might be solid,but i need more than just upgraded graphics now.

mag lev................

[HarryEtTubMan]

HA HA HA BURN.

[Sevir04]

i dont think this game deserves anything less than a 7. but really i wouldn't go as far as giving this game a high 8 either... it's average at best i'd give this a high 7+ somewhere around the lines of 7.8 it's online is fun but much of it's features arent improved. considering that this really has next gen graphics and last gen game play which wasn't really broken, but have aged considerably. it's like the trend here new coat of paint. same old gameplay.

[ApocalypseShadow]

disagreed on the fact that flying games should be fast and having combat where it should be,in the clouds.

i'm guessing slow flying games and never way in the sky is preferable?

so many lame gamers on this site.even when you expect more from games,some dummy is disagreeing for no reason but to be an idiot.that's right,idiots disagree.

mag lev................

[xionpunk]

Not the greatest review. Is it just because its arcadey and not enough check points? I dont remember having checkpoints in AC4 at all, so whatever. Oh well I love Ace Combat, hope this comes to PS3.

Reviewers are so friggin harsh lately, even if its AC4 + awesome graphics (never played any after 4) then I want it. Maybe they should take into consideration that not everyone plays games for a living when they review games.

[vgn24]

The Sony fans are laughing because one site gave a 360 exclusive a low score. To avoid any shame, sell your 360 now. That is unless you find one of the other hundreds of games fun.

Maybe I over-reacted. Maybe we can keep our 360s for now. That was a close one.

[Balance]

despite this one score, i have the game (how many of you posters can say that?) i would say it is an 8.5/10. the game is fun and some of the multiplayer maps are a blast. the multiplayer side of the game is fast and i mean moves fast you better have your twitch reflexes going (playing drunk = many deaths). but over all if you want a flight game you can pick up play and have some fun shooting people down without having to put in hrs upon hrs like a hardcore sim (i like those to at times) this game rocks. each plan does fly differently and forces you to learn what plan is best on what type of map and game and is alot of fun. could it be better? probably. is it worth $60 as is and make you glad you bought a 360 so you can play it? yes it does.

the biggest downside to the game,,,, came out way too close to halo 3 and pgr4. i hate having to choose between several new great games to play at night but the 360 has such variety (here comes mass effect also) that i can play a steller game based on what i feel like playing

[Dashmoney101]

im playing it right now! its amazing there is so many things to kill and so many ways to do it , i love this game
although u do need to have a lttle love for flying 2 to really apprecaite how great this game is.
give it an 8 to 9
6.5 is for games like Fusion Frenzy and All the movie title games....

[smturner68]

I picked up this game with the flightsticks because my brother-in-law loves the old Ace Combat games, so I got it for him for Christmas. So, I'm glad that the reviewers said it's more of the same gameplay, because otherwise he'd be wanting to use the sticks on the old games!(He used to be a Sony enthusiast, but I bought them a 360 when Tomb Raider Legend came out cuz my sister likes TR.) At least the graphics looks great, and they already have a high-def big tv, so I still think this will be a kick-azz Christmas present for him! (Also sitting in the Gamestop bag in my room is Ratchet and Clank for me! I will just leave it there until I finish Half Life 2.)

Anyway, has anyone played AC6 with the flightsticks? Whaddya think?

[jackdoe]

Damn, 1up is on a freaking tear and giving some really bad reviews.

[Fade_Walker]

Ace Combat 6 deserves better then a 6.5

plus 1UP reviews suck anyway

[iceice123]

They rated a game on my console low they are biased Sony payed them off. Sony payed them off they are biased everyone only look at the high review scores all low scores are biased payed off by Sony.

[Enigma_2099]

This is the _______ review all over again.

What is the problem with 6s and 7s? if it gets at least a 6 I consider it playable...

[Avto]

PS3 game gets 6.5 it's o.k X360 game gets 6.5 yhen 1up sux? good logic

[Lex Luthor]

Sony must of paid 1up to give this score, i'm sick and tired of sony bribibg reviewers.

Also AC6 wan't hyped to the levels of Godliness like lair was.

[caffman]

boooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrred with this type of thread.

[rowdy 1]

because no one could get over the sixaxis. Damn whiny beeitches. Ratchet gets 9's and 10's and you use the sixaxis allot in that game. Love the decryptor. But all in all games ge tbad reviews. You still gotta play them if you think it's something you like. Most of these reviewers don't know their ass from a hole. I've played Lair beat it and thought it was an excellent game. Play Ace Combat you might enjoy it.

[ROCCOZILLA]

DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND GET R&C TOOLS OF DESTRUCTION.WOOPS SORRY YOU DONT HAVE A PS3.XBOTS THIS IS THE BEGINING OF THE END.

[gololo]

screw reviewers....fanboys...please realize that these people are doing this just to draw traffic to their sites...that's all, the game is good, stop believing what this "experts" are saying...they're just lucky people that get to see games before they are released...and to tell you the truth we are experts as well since we are the ones that buy the games, play them, and decide whether we like them or not...stop listening to stupid reviewers that just want to create controversy....fanboys you are making it really easy for those trolls

[Dante8205]

i played this game and it sucks...their is no going around it

[jaja1434]

So I didn't read any of the comments, but I can guess there where many many many "Warhawk is so much better" comments as well as some who probably referred to Lair.

I've become the N4G Mind Reader!

[Wii60_FTW]

I knew there was a reason I didn't give a sh1t about this game. My gut feeling is always right. I had the same feeling before Lesbian Sword and Lair hit. I kid you not. I'm psychic(LOL CORRECTED, I HAD JUST WOKEN UP. NO LIE) (but only when it comes to spotting sh1tty games). Mark my words: Ass Creed won't be that great of a game.

[gololo]

physic??? i think u mean psychic?

[tordavis]

Famitsu gave it all 9's across the board.

[The_Firestarter]

1UP officially announced they hate video games!

j/k j/k

Seriously, I thought 1UP would've given this game a higher score.
*shrugs*

[Rybnik]

At Lex Luthor:
I was going to say the same thing except to point out obvious SARC.
Are you really that dense...right, Sony is now paying 1up for bad 360 reviews, lol.

[Lex Luthor]

Rest assured, sarcasm was intended.

[wangdiddy82]

is the best flying game ever.. It owns any flying game out there.. Just buy warhawk instead of this crap or you can buy blazing angels, lol JK..

If you like ace combat just play it, dont listen to reviewers there wrong about 80% of the time anyway these days..