Has the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection killed off any reason to get MGS3D?

When Konami announced Metal Gear Solid 3D last year almost everybody wanted a 3DS. A year on, we now know that Konami will be releasing two versions of MGS3 in the same year, but have they sabotaged MGS3D’s chance of success by announcing a seemingly superior version?

[Abash]

Well uh..... I think Yoshi's in it <_<

[darthv72]

that title makes no sense. Why would a console game kill off the notion of getting a portable version? If you want to play the game...you buy the game. You cant play the hd games on the go and you cant play the 3d game on the console (yet).

One does not equate/negate the other. I have lego games for the ds as well as the 360. Neither had any influence on my purchasing the other.

Others may see it differently and that's ok.

[UltimateIdiot911]

Huh? I'm only reading kill off reason to get MGS3D nothing about not wanting a 3DS anymore.

Anyway, I have no intention and can wait even longer before getting a 3DS now that MGS3 HD will be available. I was planning to buy a 3DS for MGS3D but not anymore. There are only a handful of titles I want for the 3DS but nothing I must have. Hopefully the price will drop on the 3DS before I decide to get one.

[sarshelyam]

I think the point is that why would anyone buy this one, when they already indicated a Vita version could be on the way...outperforming the 3DS version in every department except 3D (which I certainly don't need to enjoy this game).

[Bigpappy]

I have never completed a MG game. I did like the way the games control. I would love to play them if the controls feel right.

[darthv72]

now that makes sense. There are plenty of games where i have both a console and portable version.

If it were more clear that does the ngp version of mgs3 kill off any reason to get the 3ds version. That is probably how it should have been titled.

For that my answer would be yes because of the link between the console and portable is present in ngp/ps3.

[TheDivine]

Hell no i want mgs3 on the go and in 3d. The 3d is acually super awesome on the 3ds. I tried it at gamestop and hated it but when i used my bros for an hour demoing sf4 it rocked. Its sooo great even on the small screen and adds to games really well. More mgs is always great. Nintendo needs to bring Twin Snakes to the 3ds. I would die for that port myself.

[Venoxn4g]

me too, mate.. but they could release Peace walker 3DS + Metal gear acids 1 & 2 on 3DS :) then I could be very happy person :)

[Vherostar]

@Abash you basically got it there.. People buy the new nintendo handheld as its the only place you can find mario and yoshi Nintendo will force people to buy 3DS by moving there flagship titles to it. However the 3DS is starting to drop in sales and the regular DS and DSi are outselling it now.. So I think Nintendo might drop it as may other devs. So we may never see MGS 3D on the 3DS.

[--Onilink--]

mmmmm.... is it me or the 3DS has only been out for 2 months??? why are people saying its dead??? wth??

And did you actually owned a DS??? because your point about the games may be valid for the home consoles, but on portables??? WAY TOO MANY GREAT GAMES NOT MADE BY NINTENDO.

[amilio]

although i will be getting dis for 360 and 3DS, i think konami did a lazy job on the HD side of it. they just raised the resolution theres no graphical changes. i wanted some changes with the higher res. and the naked sample looked better than the trailer they showed the other day. lets hope that the gameplay is excellent

[LOGICWINS]

"Has the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection killed off any reason to get MGS3D?"

Thats like saying having a 360 or PS3 kills off any reason to own a 3DS.

[Brian5247]

Umm...right now, there is no reason to get a 3DS lol.

[zu4G]

yeah.. mgs collection killed mgs3d

[Chinner]

It depends. If you want to play MGS3 anywhere then you probably still want to get this!

Originally MGS3D was sold to us as a remake, and the early footage looked great. Now that we have new footage it's just a PS2 port with 3D and I think I'd rather buy the collection and get it in HD with two other great games!

[jony_dols]

Well if you have good laptop,
you can play MGS2 & MGS3 at 60fps & in HD using PCSX2.....

[You Noob]

yeah, because you can put the laptop in a pocket.

anyway... 3ds do a fake 3d, no pop out effect. it's just inside the screen.. so.. YES

[limewax]

That would take more than just a good laptop, Now don't get me wrong, I know good PC specs are easy to achieve these days. But sometimes people over play it. That sort of laptop is going to cost a substantial amount more than either a PS3, 360 or 3DS. Laptops these days will easily run current games well, But emulation isn't so straightforward, And I very much doubt my laptop could do 60FPS 1080p ps2 emulation without days wasted tweaking, Even though it runs current games pretty well

[jony_dols]

My M11x Notebook runs it perfectly on its 11.6 inch screen.

Whenever I'm on the bus or the train I can whip it out and hey presto The Witcher 2 & MGS3 on the go! And then I can plug into most TVs with its HDMI out, and hook up my 360 controller....

There is not many scenarios in which the 3DS is more portable (or anywhere as near as powerful)

[Trevonn]

@jony_dols you just proved @limewax's point a M11x is £600 a ps3 £250 360 £200 see the difference

[jony_dols]

@TwistyTrev:

Price is only relative to the use that you derive out of it.

If I spent a 100k on 5 bed mansion in the upper east side NY, would you consider that a bad investment, just because of the price tag?

My laptop caters for my Uni subjects, my work assignments, internet, watching films, my high end gaming needs and many more uses. Hell I even hook it up to my TV and use it watch my fav shows in 1080p. And it is small enough to comfortably use on public transport.

Gaming only takes up around 1/5th of my M11x usage time. If that's the case then my gaming needs are satisfied, cheaper than any other alternative on the market, and I have access to hundreds of games which are just one click away on Steam.

[miyamoto]

"Has the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection killed off any reason to get MGS3D?"

Thats like saying having a 360 or PS3 kills off any reason to own a 3DS.

..... and the NGP for that matter?

Since the NGP will also have these games in 720p with Tranfarring features .... but the NGP has no HD video output option to see the game in wide screen glory?

With due respect to the NGP's 5" OLED screen which I believe will do the NGP HD graphics justice outside my house....

Unless Sony (cashes in) or any 3rd party accessories developer makes a way to let us gamers output the HD video via headphone jack?

I sure hope they do!!!!! and its NGP day one for me.

There goes Nintendo's aspirations of stealing the hardcore market from PSP/NGP.

To be fair, MGS titles were never meant for kids ... Wii 2 version perhaps?

[zero_gamer]

Well obviously I need to grow up some more because I am a grown man with a launch 3DS.

Actually no, this post is just pure fanboyism and flamebait in the name of NGP.

[Vherostar]

Indeed the NGP kills off the need for the 3DS especially if you have a DS or DSi already..

[GunofthePatriots]

It might. 3D in general does little for gaming. I don't see it changing the experience of MGS3. Plus it's on a handheld.

I'd rather it get it for the PS3 and play it on a big HDTV with trophy support and 2 analog sticks.

I was going to get this game for the 3ds but now i'm not sure.

[Chocoboh]

What do you even have a 3DS for? :/ Should of waited for a price drop and some games yo

[Optical_Matrix]

I was thinking the same yesterday. No doubt I'll pick up this collection. Trophies, PSN Connectivity, HD Graphics...And you get 3 games (All of which I own already admittedly but still)...I cancelled my pre-order for MGS3D last night after the announcement because I quite honestly don't see the point in buying it when I can play it on my PS3 with Trophies, HD Graphics and a stable 60fps frame rate. But who knows. For those who have a 3DS, but not a PS3 or 360, this is good news. For people who own a PS3/360 and 3DS like myself, the choice is obvious imo.

[Dragun619]

I thought it was weird that 3D wasn't being added to the HD Collection, but it's probably so Konami can push MGS3D on the 3DS. Can someone on twitter ask Kojima what the differences will be between the 3DS version and the HD ver. bedsides 3D?

That and I'm guessing both ZoE & MGS Collection will be playable on NGP too considering the Transfarring logo on both. So MGS3D is gonna need some extra content besides 3D.

[yewles1]

Apparently, it might be coming to the NGP as well...

[Kamikaze135]

It is

[RevXM]

Transfarring!

[PirateThom]

I'm going to go right out and say it, unless you don't own a 360 or PS3 and want MGS3.... there's literally no reason to get that game on 3DS.

Except fot me, I will be getting it as a collector of MGS stuff, but there's no reason really.

[DNAbro]

Actually i was thinking of getting both.

[Raven_Nomad]

I will get it on the 360. Achievements ho!

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

I will get it on the PS3. Trophies ho!

[Tuxedo_Mask]

I already have all of these games and have already beaten them multiple times. Kojima/Konami, please make a new Snatcher game instead of releasing the same games again... ho?!

[MasterCornholio]

I will get it on NGP. Gaming on the go

[beast242tru]

some people onli play handhelds so i guess those people can get it on 3ds even though the ps2 version looks better

[user858621]

Well Im picking it up because MGS 3 is one of my favourite games of all time, so hell yh I want to experience it in 3D

[Les-Grossman]

This is an incomplete collection so I am not even considering buying it

[DarkBlood]

i'll get both probably maybe wait on the 3DS version a bit but even so theres still the other 2 games in the HD collection

[kagon01]

Check this picture comparison of MGS3 PS2 vs MSG3D

http://img3.sankakustatic.c...

The results are shocking...

[Chocoboh]

Well what do you expect? All they're doing is porting a PS2 game. They're not making a game specialy for the 3DS

[kagon01]

Agreed, to economize otherwise it would cost money to re-made the same game with a different graphic engine...

[Chinner]

Indeed, what took me the most is this is what the game looked last year:
http://youtu.be/nWDhcu6Jems

Very misleading, then again Konami has always had a bark bigger than the bite.

[firelogic]

lol, based on what? MGS1 was stunning and outshone anything on the PS1. MGS2 was stunning and outshone anything on the PS2. MGS3 was stunning and still looks stunning today running on a PS2. MGS4 is still one of the best looking games out there. KojiPro has always delivered based on early teasers/trailers. Except this time which is probably because it was farmed out.

[Chinner]

I wasn't so much referring to Kojima Productions but to all of Konami. I can give you examples though.

Okay, the latest example from KP would be MGS4. The graphics do not match the first trailer (TGS 2005 trailer) with weaker character models and lighting. Not mentioning the mess that was Konami ID, Kojima really hyped up the 'war' element where you could support factions and see your choices influence the battlefield but this feature was not in the final game. The story was also pretty terrible.

Older examples would be Kojima telling us that MGS3's jungle would be open-world, but what we got instead was linear. It was still great though.

I do agree with you about MGS1 and specifically 2! The first time I saw the E3 2000 trailer I was utterly amazed, and to this day MGS2 is still one of the best looking games ever.

[miyamoto]

whoa! Nintendo Got Pwned again?

You mean that is PS2 graphics right?

not the HD re-master right?

HD Re-Master >> PS2 Version >>> 3DS version

Nintendo needs to stop the Mr. Scrooge stinginess tight grip on their hard earned cash and invest big on their machines.

[ZBlacktt]

I always think back to 1998 playing MGS1. Who knew it would become all that is has over the years, lol. I just thought it was a damn good game back then. I still own that PS1 game along with the VR Missions from back then as well.

[optimus]

i go further than that with the 1st metal gear for the nintendo entertainment system...*good times*

[ZBlacktt]

I still own my NES and I go back future then that, lol. Still own my Intellivsion system. I would have not really looked at that first Metal Gear. It was like Contra and many other's like that back in the day. I was way into the first Zelda...which I still own, lol. But as for the NES Metal Gear. You can see how many don't even look at it as part of the real MGS games. Not even the same thing at all. But I hear ya. :D

[sarshelyam]

Konami has dropped some rather ambiguous hints that the Metal Gear Solid collection could be making its way to Vita (as well as the ZoE and SH Collections). If that's the case, why the heck would anyone want to buy MGS3D, when they can get MGS2, MGS3, MGSPW all in one nice package...and portable as well?

[user2897156]

The only thing they killed is themselves. Why the hell would they release this on call of duty month and next to halo?

[Der_Kommandant]

I almost buy a 3DS just to play one of the best games ever

Thank you for saving me money to buy Uncharted collector's edition :D

[optimus]

well, i'll most likely pick it up seeing as how the last metal gear i played was 2-substance for the xbox...however, i'm not understanding these people that keep saying "it was never a sony exclusive." as with every e3 briefing sony has always showcased it as being as such...not to mention those sony lovers that always mocked and laughed at xbox owners for not having it claiming "the 360 wouldn't be able to handle it" "if it did it would be inferior, it would have to fit on several disks." etc....*sigh*

[GoldPS3]

Well yeah it killed it. It even looks worser than the PS2 version.

[CraigUK]

Not at all, only for people who only care about graphics.

I would still love to see this game in 3D a lot more than I would like to see it with some upscaled textures, widescreen and a resolution increase.

Nintendo have done amazingly to get this game to run at 60fps (twice as many frames per second as the ps2 version) on the 3DS. And what it lacks for in graphical capabilities it makes up for with 3D-ness.

I am not buying OoT 3D because I want to play ocarina of time with updated visuals, I own a PC and could probs download an emulator and a texture hack which would crap all over the 3DS textures. Im buying it to experience that world in 3D, same for MGS3.

This is still the best looking 3DS game to my knowledge, and it is a massive upgrade from the DS so I don't see why people are complaining.

[Guard719]

I would have to say that it may potentially do so. For starters, when has a game involving guns, russians, sex, and WMD's on a nuclear walking battle tank ever be a sales success? You only have to look at GTA CHinatown Wars in 2009 for that answer. That came sold under 100,000 for a whole month despite all the great praise and critical acclaim. Rockstar bailed and re-released it on the PSP. That game sold well over a million units on the PSP

Case in point: It just won't catch on for a system designed for kids. On top of that, im sure theyve edited a good chunk of the game so if you want the real MGS 3 experience, you buy the HD colection. Im sure the game has been significantly shortened and edited for the audience.

[CraigUK]

based on what evidence, your oppinion?

[Guard719]

No. That really happened. GTA Chinatown wars was the most critically praised handhled game of 2009 but after all the marketing and praise, it still sold well under expectations. But then think of all the other games on the DS and then think of this. As great as that game was, it was surrounded by kids and families that wouldn't touch that game. So I believe that despite all the greatness that the MGS3DS will be, it just won't do very well.

[CraigUK]

No, I was talking about this part

"On top of that, im sure theyve edited a good chunk of the game so if you want the real MGS 3 experience, you buy the HD colection. Im sure the game has been significantly shortened and edited for the audience"

[zero_gamer]

As much as I love Nintendo 3DS I have no interest in buying handheld ports of any game.

[Happythedog]

I feel the same way. I've finished Snake Eater four times.

[Grannyvukka]

I really can't fathom why the collection doesn't read:
MGS
MGS2
MGS3
Why would they not include the VERY best & original in the series. MGS1 basically was a flawless masterpiece of gaming. All the other were great, but for varying reason, never quite hit that special masterpiece level of quailty. Either they had waaay to much storyline, that would also get so twisted & convuluted that many gamers never quite grasped exactly what was going on (neither did Kojima I think, as that Japanese skunk had him throw in so much cinematics & words that his imagination couldn't keep up). But, all games are stull great, but not putting part 1 in here, hardly makes this a definative collection, due to the fact they have not included the most defining, groundbreaking game in the series, & one of the most defining games in any genre or series.

[creamsoda]

Maybe because MGS1 is a PSX game there would be no point in making it HD if the textures are just pixels.

Maybe if they ported MGS1 Twin Snake from gamecube it would work but the original MGS1 game is totally pointless to make HD.

[creamsoda]

Nintendo must be PISSED!!!!!!!!!!! lol

[Rock_On_PS4]

Metal Gear Solid HD on PS3 for the win. Great purchase for MGS4/PS3 owners who did not play the three MGS games on PS1/PS2.

MGS3D on 3DS would be a gimped rail shooter and a half ass game just like most third party games on a Nintendo system.

[Hyperbomb69]

well.... sometimes when im in the car or on a plane... or somewhere on the go.. I suddenly feel like going into a battlefield and NOT kill people.

[MasterCornholio]

I hope Kojima releases it on PSN so i can download with my NGP and play it on the go.