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Nintendo's Project Café Will Not Match Wii Success, Say Consultants

Bill Cosby once said that he didn’t really know what the key to success was, but that “the key to failure is trying to please everyone.” While there are dozens of variations of the quote from throughout time, the point of the argument is that one cannot stretch themselves to accommodate everyone. The world is simply too diverse to have an exact pattern that appeals to everyone.

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donniebaseball4743d ago

I tend to agree. Wii caught lightning in a bottle. It's not easy to do. Clearly 3DS isn't doing it. Not sure Project Cafe will either. That's not to say that Project Cafe can't do well, but Wii type success seems unlikely to me.

iamnsuperman4743d ago

As far as the rumours suggest it is not going for the casual gamer so I think it is a safe bet that it will not match the Wii success. The hardcore market has too much competition. The Wii didn't with casual fitness games

Yi-Long4743d ago

... I just care if it will be a succes GAMES-wise!

fluffydelusions4743d ago

"As a gamer, I don't really care if it's a succes SALES-wise..."

I understand what you are getting at but at the same time sales justify game development. So gamers should care how well something sells.

VampiricDragon4743d ago

How do you know the 3ds isnt doing it? It took the ds 2 years to do it........... It took the ps2 years to do it..........it took the gba years to do it........it took the gameboy years to do it.........it took the ps3/360 years and years to have success.

Research before you stick your foot in mouth

fluffydelusions4743d ago

I just can't imagine how much a controller costs.

theonlylolking4743d ago

That is because casual gamers are not going to be buying games or consoles nearly as much as the hardcore. Nintendo got a whole lot of casuals with the wii and since they wont spend the money for a new console right away which is what happened to the 3ds. Then the only peeps left to buy it are the hardcore.

Nintendo plans on trying to get the hardcore audience back while M$ plans on abandoning them which is what nintendo did but that is only a short lived victory because of the audience you are catering to.

SilentNegotiator4743d ago

Even if it did what Wii did but with more power, it would still be getting itself caught between console generations like the Dreamcast, and wouldn't be QUITE as successful.

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Trroy4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

I agree. Believing that Nintendo can pull another Wii off is overly optimistic.

I think the device has some potential to woo HD gamers in, but I don't think it'll have the same appeal to the Blue Ocean, this time around.

The Wii was a great kids console -- cheap to leave on standby, reliable, the controllers are easy to use and sturdy, the console was the cheapest of the 3 current gen.. good stuff.

Throw a tactile-feedback LCD touchscreen on the controller (now the controller needs constant charging, which is painful with kids, who are pretty impatient and not very good at planning their gaming time, or managing the charge on their controller), make it priced the same or more than a HD console... Nintendo just disposed of a large portion of the audience they spent the past 5 years capturing.

I thought, for sure, the Wii will remain in production after the Cafe comes out, to keep a hold on the Blue Ocean, but... well the price has gotten pretty low, which is suspicious.

Honky Kong4743d ago

well i think nintendo roped in alot of new fans with the Wii. i bet more than a few housewives will buy the new nintendo.

MinusTheBear4743d ago

And most of those mindless fans got roped into the "new" thing which is Kinect. They are sheep.

zackacloud4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

U mean in future we will face that:

fanboys :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh .

harcores : what happen ??

fanboys : There mario game for project cafe !!

harcores : Oh finally, Of course nintendo won't milking u that much i knew it nintendo must have atoms inside there that caring about gamer and they creating a new mario, right?

fanboys :no IT MARIO KART in HD!!!!!

harcores :Didn't u have enough from mario kart for yeeears in every device from nintendo and last one was in 3DS ?

fanboys:Ammm...mmmmm... actually. Oh No this one in HD with updating graphics more than u can imagine!!!!!

In other hand they suppose not give a shit for graphics and res because the always said HD nothing special on it and graphics not important at all.

VampiricDragon4743d ago (Edited 4743d ago )

these same people said the wii wouldnt be successful

analysts and knowledge. Dont belong together

In fact I am going through an old egm issue. feb 2005 issue 188. The question was asked of the ds.

What do you think of it so far? ( At this point it had an entire holiday plus january of time)

A: "hmm, can you say virtual boy 2? The ds seems gimmicky to me. Its just akward to use and The launch games are so weak. I have a feeling that hardly any game makers will invent novel uses for the system

A: "The launch titles are dissapointing" "It seems the system is 80 percent old news"

Looking back how silly does shoe sound? Because this is the same guy in the article

The point is. How does he know anything before release, 1 month after release, 2 months after release, 5 months after release, 1 year after release, 2 years after release, 3 years after?

Its all talking out of the anus.

The end result , total system sales, total system unit sold, amount of exclusive games at the end

thats what I care about.

Titanz4743d ago

You owned him!

As for Cafe being as popular as the Wii is...

It will depend on how "innovative" the console actually is.

jacksonmichael4743d ago

Flamebait is important to this industry. It gets people's attention better than Wii Sports.

V0LT4743d ago

This time it's a matter of converting those "old" gamers to purchase another system.

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Nintendo Has Acquired Shiver Entertainment From Embracer Group

Nintendo Has Acquired Shiver Entertainment From Embracer Group

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Profchaos8d ago

Great news it shows that Nintendo intends to continue developing ports of AAA games to its next gen platform

H98d ago

Buying studios from embracer now is a great deal, they must be dirt cheap at this point, Nintendo is a opportunist, they wait until someone fall so they get their best deal

OtterX7d ago

That is some serious brain gymnastics you have going on there. 🤔

H97d ago

I didn't do any gymnastics I can assure you, honestly I don't know why you think that, not hating I seriously don't see why you think that

ZeekQuattro7d ago

Yeah I don't know where that came from. It's rare for Nintendo to flat out aquire studios. Guess they were trying to be edgy but why flex on this studio. 🤣

Kneetos6d ago

At least they are safer from layoffs with Nintendo then any other company

banger888d ago

I hope someone buys Piranha Bytes, their future isn't looking good right now. I love their RPGs, they're janky as f***, but they have heart and soul.

Relientk778d ago

Nintendo saw the Mortal Kombat 1 Switch port and were like, "Yeah, these guys are worth acquiring."

You can't make this crap up lol

Profchaos7d ago

Mortal Kombat 1 was never going to port well I'm sure they told wb it wasn't going to work but wb wants that sweet sweet 140 million install base

In the end wb approved the project cleared the milestones and allowed the product to release

SonOfOsiris7d ago

Yeah this guys ported MK11 which is great, Hogwarts Legacy which is great, and MK1 is now ok, play it every day

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno24d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.