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Have Sony finally beat the Pirates?

If you are type or person who doesn't pay for games and has Killzone 3 installed on your custom firmware 3.55 PS3, I have news for you.

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Nitrowolf24714d ago (Edited 4714d ago )

Good. From what i was hearing games would ship with 3.60 but would release a patch that was under 3.55, making it boot able.

hiredhelp4714d ago

This is brilliant news. unfortunatly this will be short lived.

trust me when i say the groups can try to change ths file so you can run the game. like changing the fw

frostypants4714d ago

Software and network security are not wars that ever end. It requires constant efforts. Yes, hackers will figure out a way around this, only to be undermined again by Sony...and on and on...

SilentNegotiator4714d ago (Edited 4714d ago )

As is the nature of technology, there is no "finally"

The battle against hackers/pirates will never end. They will continue to find ways around to steal and continue to inflate their self-righteous egos. Sony must always be on their toes and be making improvements regardless of whether or not they see attack.

edit: I guess frosty pretty much beat me to it...

DaTruth4714d ago

You may have won the battle, but you haven't won the war!

Wish I could remember who said that. Cobra Commander? Megatron? Oh well!

I_find_it_funny4714d ago

unfortunately there's nothing final in this hacker shit

MintBerryCrunch4714d ago

but why would a pirate ever want to update their game...that would be like breaking the 1st sacred rule of pirating anything, which is updating the software you D/L

RedDevils4714d ago

this is a cat and mouse game

ZBlacktt4713d ago

Best thing Sony could do is make a virus that detects CFW after the update. Then it fries the PS3 mother board. They'll send a message, a costly one, lol.

Nitrowolf24713d ago

@Mint

true, but this is good news since developers no longer need to release patches made with 3.55. Brink is 3.6 but since they released a patch for 3.55, well it's no longer protected

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saladthieves4714d ago (Edited 4714d ago )

The thing is pirates will find a way around this, but by the time they do, let's hope Sony will have another countermeasure in place for them to get pissed at. Let's just say that Sony just shot a canon at the pirate's ship and it's sinking. They are aborting the ship with as much people and resources as they can, and calling for help. By the time help arrives, it might be too late.

the_best_player4714d ago (Edited 4714d ago )

More like the Pirates are shooting Sonys ship, but Sonys Patches are too fast.

nopunctuation4714d ago

Sony beat the pirates a long time ago because no one wants to wait 20 hours for a 50gb game to download. Blu ray is the pirate deterrent as long as comcast internet exists.

Shane Kim4714d ago

Can't argue with that. The games are too big and it would take days to DL it with my connection.

nanometric4714d ago

Lucky me with my 100 Mbit/s optical connection or up to 12 MB/s irl.

ProGrasTiNation4714d ago (Edited 4714d ago )

LOL...FTP for the win....3mins to DL a 1g file,so you do the maths.....also you can get a KZ3 torrent with all the 3d removed & it shrinks in size buy an awful lot..lol
& P.S....sony doing this to updates of old games will give someone the motive to go break their last line of defence..lol

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Vherostar4714d ago

At least they are getting closer to it and lasted longer than MS and Nintendo ever did. When it came to anti-piracy this gen Sony did do a good job I think its the longest console in existence without piracy. The reason PSN gets hacked though is these hackers got really annoyed as Sony have closed up the hole in games so they attacked them for it as they want free games. If the original hack was never found I doubt PSN would ever have been hacked.

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Godmars2904714d ago (Edited 4714d ago )

Well, hackers are too busy trying to ruin PSN, so I doubt they have any time to crack the latest update. Just have to wait and see.

Hide_Out4714d ago

There are different types of hackers, people like Anon want to disrupt the service Sony offers, then there are other hackers who pirate software by getting around the encryption process.

Jezuz4714d ago

Not all hackers want to hack PSN

femshep4714d ago

either way all hackers are still scumbags with no lives

silvacrest4714d ago

PS3 hackers just want to get games for free, that includes getting on PSN

asshats like anonymous are on some pointless crusade and dont care if they hurt your average joe in the process

Mikeyy4714d ago

I agree and thats the truth.

Nobody knows why Anon is sticking there nose where it doesnt belong. All theve succeeded in doing is getting the core gamer to hate their guts.

Hide_Out4714d ago

Not all "hackers" want that, I wanted the ability to have Linux back on MY PS3 and play games online.

I don't agree with the piracy issue or the attack on Sony and it's customers.

DragonKnight4714d ago

Hide_Out: Two things. Did you bother using Linux when it was around? Because less than 1% of the userbase actually used it, and of those who did most were under contract and had special PS3's given to them by Sony, and would have not updated the PS3 and are still using Linux to this day.

Second, the capitalization of the word "MY" in your comment suggests you're one of those pro hacker individuals who don't understand what your true ownership is. You bought a piece of hardware. You are entitled to turn your PS3 into the grill the trolls used to always call it before it started crushing the competition. You can scratch the outer casing with a box cutter, you can set it on fire, you can throw it off the tallest free standing structure in the world. You can do those things because you own the physical product.

You DO NOT, however, own the software. You DID NOT pay for the software, you paid for a LICENSE to USE the software. Every single piece of software that exists comes with a LICENSE agreement you must agree to in order to gain use of it. When you click agree, you agree to knowing that you have a license to use the software. Now, if you can remove the OS that is on the PS3 entirely and put your own OS on it, then by all means do so. Sony can't stop you from doing that. They CAN, however, stop you from using THEIR proprietary software in a method it was never intended to be used for, especially if it hinders their ability to be compensated monetarily for their hard work.

All you pro hacker individuals need to get that fact clear and in your minds instead of having a mind like a siv. YOU DO NOT OWN THE PS3 OPERATING SOFTWARE!! Understand? YOUR PS3 is a piece of plastic, silicon, some metals and glue. Turn it into a toaster and Sony can't touch you. But the OS is not yours to do with as you please.

Dread4713d ago (Edited 4713d ago )

@dragonknight

the problem is that at the begining Sony was using the OS capabilitis as part of the their marketing strategies..in other words they were telling the consumers before they puschased the machine that it included OS. So if a consumer bought the machine with OS then they should have a right to keep it. The fact that only a few people use it is not a valid justification to make unilateral changes.

imaigne for example that you bought the original Playstaiton 3 which had BC and then after two years they create a firmware that takes tha capability out of the machine.. that is theft..and people would be justified in wanting their money back.

I know everyone here defends Sony no matter what, but regardless of the company if they sell u something they do not have the right to take it away from you.

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ProGrasTiNation4714d ago

Anyone who thinks like you is a sheep...researchers dont give a fuck about psn,just injustitce buy greedy company's

Godmars2904714d ago

People really took this as a serious statement? Really?

silvacrest4713d ago

dont assume your actual intentions can be easily translated in text form

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hiredhelp4714d ago

actually hes right there are very differnt types of hackers.

you may need to do some reserach you be supprised how many of hackers are not ruthless like what we have seen lately.
but just do this for hobby like cracking games.and other software. not all hackers are setout to hack into other computers to exploit them and gain controll for there own selfish reasons.

gamingdroid4714d ago

If you modified anything in your life beyond what it was intended for, you were a hacker!

As gamers I'm disgusted at how many of you stereotype, but then turn around and complain about Fox News doing the exact same thing to you.

DragonKnight4714d ago

When has Fox News been responsible for preventing millions of people from enjoying a basic function of their entertainment experience? I mean besides being a cancerous tumor on television airwaves?

Fox News are sensationalists, border line racists, and a disgrace to real journalism. But their "stereotyping" never prevented me from changing the channel and watching something else. But hackers prevented me from using PSN for a month.

Hackers bring their reputation on themselves. And if the hacking community doesn't like being stereotyped as they are, then maybe they should help find the ones responsible for tarnishing their reputation and help bring them to justice. As the saying goes, the only way evil can triumph is if good men sit by and do nothing.

gamingdroid4714d ago (Edited 4714d ago )

"But their "stereotyping" never prevented me from changing the channel and watching something else. But hackers prevented me from using PSN for a month."

So you are justifying stereotyping a group of people simply because a few of them prevented you from playing some games? Ignoring the simple fact that who is responsible is unclear yet it most likely was monetary motivated.

You are quick to point fingers, so I hope you are pointing fingers at Sony as well for not securing their network.

Well, I guess you could say gamers bring their reputation on themselves, why should Fox News actually try and find out. Seemingly you are as ignorant as they are (if not naive).

Finally, hackers didn't prevent you from using any other online network, it was just another system a way. Xbox Live, PC online and Wii was functioning just fine. If you can change your channel I'm sure you can change your system.

Good men don't mistakenly blame innocent people!

DragonKnight4713d ago

"So you are justifying stereotyping a group of people simply because a few of them prevented you from playing some games? Ignoring the simple fact that who is responsible is unclear yet it most likely was monetary motivated."

Yes, I am justifying it because, again, Hackers are responsible for their own reputations. The fact remains that such a fight hackers put up to defend themselves wouldn't be necessary if A) What they were/are doing is legal (it's not) and B) They would aid in finding those responsible for giving hackers a bad name. It doesn't matter if it was 1 person doing it or 100. They use the hacker banner and thus should answer to the hacker community. But do you see anyone coming forth and actually doing anything about it besides Sony? No. Why? Because hackers live in a double standard world. GeoHot proved it perfectly. "I don't condone piracy", so by your logic he's a good hacker. And yet he released everything anyone could ever need to pirate. Did hackers who are supposedly "good" come forward and denounce his actions and try to help Sony in preventing piracy? No. Instead they came forth and b*tched when Sony took their rightful legal action. Like I said, you don't want to be labeled a deviant who performs illegal acts, then do something about it. The hacker community is responsible for its own reputation.

"You are quick to point fingers, so I hope you are pointing fingers at Sony as well for not securing their network."

I have no reason to point fingers at Sony for being hacked for 2 reasons. A) Everything gets hacked. The Pentagon has been hacked, banks have been hacked, online stores have been hacked, credit card companies have been hacked. You don't point the finger at the victim, you point it at the criminal. B) Where's your proof that Sony had poor security? Oh, are you talking about that "expert" who read reports from months back but admitted he had no clue as to Sony's present security measures? Are you forgetting that it was proven that Sony had up-to-date security and that CC information (which is more valuable than the addresses, names, and phone numbers that are all part of public record and found on google) was encrypted? I guess you forgot about that and just wanted to spew media misinformation and sensationalism. Like Fox News does.

"Well, I guess you could say gamers bring their reputation on themselves, why should Fox News actually try and find out. Seemingly you are as ignorant as they are (if not naive)."

Gamers ARE responsible for their own reputation. But unlike hackers, we actually speak out when some loser tries to blame his killing spree on GTA. Or when Jack Thomson tried to bring down all gaming altogether. Gamers speak out loud and proud when we are attacked. Just watch Attack of the Show for example. Any time there is a controversy about a game, you'll see people like Sessler fighting against the ill-conceived notion that games promote violence. You'll see gamers make petitions against politicians trying to rally against gaming. Look at Australia and how their rating system bans games. I've seen many stories of gamers trying to come together and make a change in that arena. We don't just sit back and let society label us as outcasts or violent individuals. We stand up and let the world know that we enjoy a form of entertainment, and people who claim that a game made them shoot someone are lying and just plain dumb.

DragonKnight4713d ago

"Finally, hackers didn't prevent you from using any other online network, it was just another system a way. Xbox Live, PC online and Wii was functioning just fine. If you can change your channel I'm sure you can change your system."

I sure can. And I have a Wii, and a PC. But unlike television, which has multiple stations playing the same show sometimes, most people will not go out and buy the same game for 4 platforms. So because of hackers, I was unable to input my online code for Mortal Kombat, and thus was not able to activate that feature. Because of hackers, I could not get some help from some Demon's Souls friends to obtain certain weapons. Because of hackers, I couldn't play my DC Universe Online game. Hackers stopped PSN. At least with television, I still have a working television no matter what Fox News says. And therein lies a great flaw in your counter. Fox News can't affect television, but hackers affected online gameplay for millions. Your sympathy for people who don't give a damn of the consequences they will bring about is naive, short-sighted, and disgusting.

"Good men don't mistakenly blame innocent people!"

Lol, the irony of your statement makes me laugh. You sit there and blame Sony for being hacked, then have the unmitigated gall to make such a statement. I dare say that's the tactic of a fanboy. A new breed of fanboy has emerged on N4G since this PSN situation, that being the hacker fanboy. I see you're part of the club.

gamingdroid4713d ago (Edited 4713d ago )

I think it is pointless to discuss with somebody that isn't interested in reasoning, beyond pushing his views to protect another company.

I will leave you with this without actually countering every single of your arguments (as you aren't interested in the truth anyhow, just to blame):

a) Sony is partly to blame and they are definitely not innocent. The way the acted caused the attention. Furthermore, because companies being hacked is common doesn't mean you are relieved of your responsibility. Being hacked and potentially losing credit card/birth dates is quite uncommon considering the number of users.

b) There is no question the specific hackers that did it is responsible and guilty.

c) Hackers aren't a collective organized group of people, no more than a hobbyist is! You would say (at least I hope you don't) because there is a higher crime rate among black men, therefore all black men are criminals! It is therefore the black men's responsibility to uphold their own reputation, despite the fact that no one of them is responsible for the entire "race" reputation.

To me you come across one of those people that actually would believe Fox News when the tables are turned around and convenient instead of looking at the facts to push your own beliefs and agenda.

Bottom line, you are just upset that your game time was disrupted and you want to blame somebody and it is convenient to just blanket blame a group. It's naive, ignorant and irresponsible.

I don't bother with people like that and hope you don't have kids.

DragonKnight4713d ago

@gamingdroid: It is a common occurrence for one without a valid argument to resort to personally attacking someone because they can't come up with an actual decent point. So go on continuing you are correct (you're not) and go on attacking people for disproving you. You merely come off as petty and childish.

Have a good day.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers2d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken2d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g2d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing2d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H92d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola2d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6692d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle2d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg3d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos3d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola3d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies23d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken23d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga23d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken23d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6423d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long23d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197223d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic23d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12523d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91323d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer23d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91322d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit22d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher23d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6922d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit22d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher23d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken23d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197223d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic23d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2323d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218323d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder23d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts23d ago

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