EA NFL Tour faster on Xbox 360 than PS3

EA last week demonstrated the new football title NFL Tour for Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 and Sony Corp.'s Playstation 3 at the E for All Expo in Los Angeles. The Xbox 360 version held a faster frame rate and better animation than the PS3 build at the consumer show.

[Lightning Mr Bubbles]

How are FIFA 08 and NBA Live 08 fine on PS3, yet if it comes to anything related to football it has to be a problem?

Peter Moore even said that the frame rate issues on PS3 where a thing of the past.

Unless this game runs off the Madden 08 engine or something, it doesn't make any sense.

[ravinshield]

well actually fifa 08 is better on the xbox 360.i have it for the 360 and my friend has it for the ps3 and in his game i seen many jaggies that are not present on the 360 version.

[cloud360-7th_account]

WOWOOWOWOWOWOWOWOWO

Am really suprised. I dont care bout sports or EA

And We dont want Mass Effect on PS3. But if it means that it will be Exlus To 360 then maybe even though no one iwll by it. But it shud be on PC

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Funny but still nothing new, the games on the PS3 are always subpar when compared to the 360.

[toughNAME]

took the words right out of my mouth

[gamehendge]

"Funny but still nothing new, the games on the PS3 are always subpar when compared to the 360."

translation: Mommie Mommie i'm so happy, can I have my jello early tonight?

[Kuest]

but I still laughed. Lol.

[fenderputty]

I think you should add EA to your little smide remark. I know you think you're creative with your little witicism but, you fall short. Anyone with a PS3 knows EA is dogsh1t. I don't care if other dev's have problems, EA has the most. There are plenty of great looking titles coming out for the PS3. While they might not suit your tastes, not every dev is having a problem with this system.

[Real gamer 4 life]

Is just EA they always make subard ps3 game is a fact already. So for now on i will go to @k for ma spots game. I just wish that EA would lose the madden license,because i belive 2k spots can make a better football game then EA.

[wageslave]

EA probably owns the IP Madden, they arent going to loose it.

And, EA is *not* the only dev having issues. EA isnt a bad developer in any sense. They make the best line of sports games (im sorry if you want to be a rebel and hate EA for some reason, but its true).

What about Midway's Blacksite: Area 51? Totally gutted online for the PS3. What about the PES2008 having network and performance issues on the PS3?

The list goes on and on and on. The problem *is* that the PS3 is designed poorly and the development tools are crap compared to the Xbox 360.

That is why games for Xbox 360 work better, because the machine and the tools are better.

Look at the ratings of cross-platform games -- look at the racing games for instance:

(place in library - title - released - score)
PS3
13 DiRT: Colin McRae Off-Road 2007 82
34 Sega Rally Revo 2007 78

Xbox 360:
30 DiRT: Colin McRae Off-Road 2007 83
54 Sega Rally Revo 2007 81

Do yo notice something? That the cross platform games score WORSE on the PS3, yet are -- in the whole PS3 library -- ranked FAR HIGHER.

You people need a serious dose of reality. I'm worried for your long term mental health.

[Bazookajoe_83]

Does anybody care about EA games anymore? They make sh1tty games on 360 and even worse on ps3..

[okcomputer]

As much as I hate ea, I will admit madden 08 for the 360 is a great game.

[Bnet343]

but Burnout is a very fun game to play and they used to make the best baseball games. I'm not on the "hate EA because its cool bandwagon" but I just hated that they got Bioware.

[gamehendge]

"While recent comparisons may leave an impression of a weaker PS3 hardware, Sony Corp.'s basketball offering NBA 08 runs at a top 60 frames per second in full 1080p high-definition resolution."

EA, please remove your head from your arshe.

[ApocalypseShadow]

a multiplatform game from EA that has issues on ps3.........what else is new?

sony can make games at 1080p at 60fps.and they have half the dev resources than EA.

also,when other third parties with less money than EA can produce 1080p at 60fps(namco-rr7) or 720p at 60 fps,there's no excuse for EA in doing so as well.especially with all that money and resources.

get back to us with "real" news from a "real" developer that cares to make quality products across the board.

mag lev.....................

[wageslave]

"and they have half the dev resources than EA"

Really. And how the frack do you know this? Frankly that doesnt matter.

All you have to do is look at the cross platform games. The same group of developers can build great games for the Xbox 360, but for some reason the PS3 games have issues. Game after Game after Game.

Perhaps -- and I know this is going to be outside your fantasy world-view -- that Sony shipped a bad design, and garbage tools?

Maybe the teams making the games inside Sony are vast in size compared to the 3rd parties. I would imagine that is FAR more likely.

PS3 lost $847 Million in the Second Quarter of 2007. Maybe they spend *far* more money on making their 1st party titles than you think.

In the end, the 3rd Party Developers are going to look at the numbers and jump ship on the PS3 for budget and revenue reasons.

Sure, if you *really* spend a boat-load-of-money you can get a game to be as good as the Xbox 360 counterpart -- but why burn money for nothing? Its not going to happen.

[Dark_Overlord]

EA have just admitted they do not know how to program for the PS3

[Ignorant Fanboy]

And the problem is that Sony isnt teaching them how to do it, there just saying "figure it out for yourself".

[Dark_Overlord]

Sony could do a better job of helping developers, they have been trying with things like the EDGE tools (think thats what they were called). It doesn't help when the game engine which quite a lot of the developers use is basically screwed up:

http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...

Didn't Sony team up with Epic not so long ago to try and sort these problems out. All I'm really saying its not 100% Sonys fault probably 33.3% the others being developers not wanting to learn new code 33% and Epic distributing an unfinished engine to quite a lot of developers 33%, all this together makes one hell of a headache for software developers

[Hugh Hefner]

Wow... the PS3 is getting slapped today from all over (PES issues online lag + framerate issues, quarterly multi-million dollar losses, Blacksite issues/delay, NFL Tour framerate problems) This is madness!!!

[Lex Luthor]

THIS IS LIVING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[lil Titan]

what is up with all these devlopers not getting shyt right on the PS3, is it that diffcult to devlop for dam i cant wait for when they do master it then

[jack who]

The Xbox 360 version held a

faster frame rate and better animation

than the PS3 build at the consumer show.

[SRuN4]

At this point sports games from EA running at half the FPS on the PS3 than the X360 isn't news. When the PS3 version hits 60FPS then we have some news. But I thought EA said that starting with some game this fall that all PS3 games would be running at 60 FPS?, guess we have a whole year to wait to see if that holds true with NCAA and Madden cause in the end those are the only two EA Sports Games that matter to a large majority.

[DZNetworks]

EA only cares about the bottom line. PROFITS.

[wageslave]

@DZNetworks:

"EA only cares about the bottom line. PROFITS"

hahah! Right! EA is so different from Sony, yeah, Sony there a nice bunch of guys. Hell, there practically running a charity with the PS3. Heck, they gave away $847 Million in Q2 2007 *ALONE*.

Yep, Sony doesnt care about the bottom line at all. They'll just sell their Cell Manufacturing Facilities and IP and the Sony Insurance Division just to keep pumping money on the Sony MPAA and Sony RIAA BR dream machine.

Yep, EA is in it for the money, but Sony is your pal.

[YoMeViet]

thats EA for you, Profits 1st and quality last. All their licensed sports games really kills sports games for me.

[escobahr]

did anyone here take just a second to think.....hmmm heres another post
from a super third party site,from a writer noones ever heard of, with an account that cant be confirmed or ever proven if its actually true.

and nobody points this out....WE DONT EVEN KNOW IF ANY OF THIS IS TRUE!

i really do know now, the internet is destroying gaming.....this site is pathetic in the way it will let any fanboy post any thread...regardless of its merits.

[DZNetworks]

Most of these so called "articles" are really just glorified posts on blogs. Not what I would even consider real NEWS.

[TheMART]

And its not only EA...

PES2008 from Konami? PS3 framerate problems...

So PS3 fanboys, now its not EA, what is it? The devs are lazy? Which next 'reason' will there be? Or should we say... Lie?

[2paclives]

hush it up hater boy. Everyone knows that it is taking some of these devs to get caught up to speed with the technical power of the ps3. I can't wait till 2008-2009 when you change your name to TheMArt at ps3kings. Get a life.

[wageslave]

Well, "2paclives", you sure are a sucker aren't you.

"devs to get caught up to speed with the technical power of the ps3."

Right, because the PS3 is some super-computer isnt it? You sure have bought the SONY marketing hook-line-and-sinker.

You know what IGN said in its hardware shoot-out?

"When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment."

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

If you use your critical thinking skills, put on your skeptical-spectacles and stop to imagine for a second; Maybe -- JUST MAYBE -- Sony's not being honest about how super-magical-powerful the PS3 is?

In fact, its roughly equal in power to the Xbox 360. The *REAL* trouble lies in the PS3 being a b*llsh*t design and a set of development tools to match. *THAT* is why you see inferior game after game after game on the PS3. Because Sony shipped a bad design that is only as powerful as the Xbox 360's good design.

When it comes down to it, Sony would have been far better off to try and make a good development environment and design and not burnt up moeny shoving DRM laden BR for the benefit of the Sony MPAA and Sony RIAA divisions.

Sony just threw the Playstation under the bus for its RIAA and MPAA interests. And you are lapping up their lies. You should spend more time in developing your critical thinking skills.

Any literate 10 year old can come to these conclusions.

[jessupj]

you xbox fanboys just won't admit it will you. The PS3's cell processor is a lot more powerful then the 360. You think MGS4 or GT5 could ever run on the 360? They would have to be greatly down graded.

You are all really starting to piss you of. All you ever say is it's not the devs, it's sony's bad design. I didn't know more sophisticated hardware and innovation were bad design flaws.

"Sophisticated? What are you talking about? The ps3 is so crap"

The fact is you have no proof that the architecture is designed badly on the ps3, you just like to think that with no weight behind your arguement. The 360 just did things to same way. It's virtually the same as a PC. Sony have moved forward, and with knew technology comes the slow process of learning how to use it. If the PS3 is so badly designed how can we have games like GT5 and rachet and clank. It's just your fanboyism that makes you so ignorant. If others can get it right, logic tells us that EA can get it right also.

Are you going to disagree with logic?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I have no doubts about the PS3's power...I have no doubt that it can be programmed to run titles as good if not better than the 360 versions. But I am beginning to wonder if that level of quality can be accomplished in the same amount of time. What I mean is, it just seems to be that games in development for both titles tend to suffer more when released at the same time...yet when they take the extra time for the PS3 it seems they more often than not tend to be similar in quality or show some refinments (Oblivion comes to mind...).

And before you go off pounding on about EA being horrible, etc... I highly doubt EA wants to bring gimped PS3 versions of any game to the table. EA is big enough that this shouldnt be an issue...after all they are the largest gaming software studio in the world. They have more resources and staff at their hands than ANYONE else. PS3 just may need that extra amount of dev time. So when a company like EA releases a multi platform game (same release probably brings better sales to a title than having one version release a month later...game feels old already, etc.) they are always trying to do same date and time release and well...the PS3 version obviously is having some corners cut to meet those times.

Sony really needs to really step up their support for the devs...this is a problem...and its not going away...and it will continue to hurt them if time over time 360 games are coming out faster and/or at better frame rates, etc.

[Snukadaman]

with crappy sales of madden 08..why would they do this on purpose. Something is wrong to where they are damned if they do and damned if they dont...as in.release a crappy version or not release it at all..and in all seriousness...would you rather see developers not release games....granted you are getting terrible versions but at least they are still trying.

[gnothe1]

EA has been working with the PS3 for more than 3 years, did you guys even stop to think that maybe the PS3 isnt as capable as the 360!! did EA cut corners on the xbox 1. almost ALL last gen games were built with the PS2 in mind ( especially from EA) but yet EA xbox 1 games LOOKED better an ran a tad bit more fluid on xbox 1. WHY? because the console was able to make it happen. the same cant be said about the PS3 an 360!!

[Hugh Hefner]

I blame the PS3's memory architecture for all of its framerate woes... nothing else.

[rwest78]

...but then I saw GT5 prologue at 1080p and 60 fps, and saw the visuals in Ratchet and Clank. Games that have exceeded the visuals on anything on the 360, in far less time than the 360 has been out.

Maybe EA just simply isn't as talented as some of the other Dev houses out there.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

"Maybe EA just simply isn't as talented as some of the other Dev houses out there."...... Umm I don't mean to bash but... You are dead wrong... EA is filled with Talent...to the tune of double the amount of employees that the 2nd largest game studio in the world has.

EA's developers have made COUNTLESS great games. Franchises such as Madden, Command & Conquer, Metal of Honor, Mercenaries, Tiger Woods, Battlefield, The Sims, NBA Live, Ultima, The Lord of the Rings ..and new games like Army of Two, Crysis & Hellgates of London... NO my friend they have plenty of talent.

You also said "...but then I saw GT5 prologue at 1080p and 60 fps, and saw the visuals in Ratchet and Clank. Games that have exceeded the visuals on anything on the 360, in far less time than the 360 has been out." First off...how long have those titles been in development? GT5 has been in development for what almost 3 yrs? I mean they started working on that after they released GT4, so they have had a TON of time to work on the Sony system for development, etc. Same thing goes for R&C: TOD...this game too has been cooking for well over 2 yrs at Sony. The difference between those two games and the games EA puts out (especially sports) is that EA sports titles are annual affairs...they launch a new one every year due to their nature of being a seasonal sports title. They cannot afford to take two years to develop a sports title. They need to be able to churn those out yearly because public demand is there for it.

So again...maybe its not EA's issue but rather a Sony one in that what they have given developers to work with truly takes a bit longer to optimize than other systems.

So again I say...this is a Sony problem. Unless ofcourse Sony doesn't care about 3rd party support and equality of titles released by those 3rd parties. Cause if that is the case ...then Sony might as well close up the shop now.

Sony needs to get this situation under control fast!

[MIAMIFROST]

EA - get your sh*t straight. If it wasnt for SKATe I would never buy another EA title.

[daflint]

Hmm.. Once again a multiplatform game fails to to justice to the ps3. First of all, the game is not at its release code yet, but i tink that the source to the problem is (or was) SONY´s ignorance from the begining with lacking dev suport and some kind of attitude that the PS3 would be the console that should lead the way and every one would make games for it first.
But you cant blame software companies for try to make money, and right now xbox has a larger consumer base and a longer time on the market for the nextgen. If you had a company with hundreds of employees would you go for the minor console first?
But i know that things will improve for SONY, just cant stop loving them and MS. I´m a hard core gamer whos got a PS3 and a x360 and to be honest i don´t like EA games in 30fps nor 60fps

[Kuest]

Get.

Bubbles.

[Xemnas]

Oh boy hear we go agian.

[goodganja]

No one will be buying this game so who cares if it runs slower on PS3. The point is that Sony's sports titles are 1080p 60fps so it doesnt matter.

EA needs to sign that exclusive deal with Micro$hit so we can all get on with it and sony continuing to embarass their developers.

[Lex Luthor]

Sony's sport titles are absolute crap my retarded friend.

[jackdoe]

Well, no sh!t. NFL Tour was built on 360 architecture.

[power of Green]

NBA 08 was not on par with other Basketball games. NBA live 08" looks better than NBA 2K8 and is why nba 2k8 PS3 version looks the same as the 360 version, still PS3 version looked faded and ran worse in some of those games.

My take: Some devs will try and match the two versions holding the game back either way(no matter what console), and others do not care and these devs will make the best game they can regardless of one of the versions being worse because they're competing needing to make the game the best they can regardless of what console leads the perfection of the versions.

Games on PS3 that run high frame rates at high rezs have simple detail and textures(cartoon like in most cases) or are standard racers showing some fields and Copy & pasted backgrounds with 2D looking smoke and mirrors tricks.

#1, I dissagree.

PS3 on the Left/Xbox 360 on the Right...

http://onaxis.blogspot.com/...

NBA 2k8 was held back to match the PS3 with the 360 thats why LIVE out shines 2K8.

[titntin]

EA are a large company with some old staff who simply arn't very quick to pick up on new code techniques. They have traditionally believed they could lead on one platform and do a implr convert to another.
If you want a decent engine it simply can't work that way..

Having been part of a world famous achieving software dev house that was absorbed by E.A some time ago (Bullfrog.. RIP), I'm in a position to have experienced the EA 'drag factor' for myself. That they can't code a decent PS3 engine when others can, is of no suprise to me at all.
With the installed user base of PS3 increasing, and market share to be lost, I'm pretty sure its something that they'll put right soon.

In the meantime, if anyone actually wants one of their 'done by the numbers', same as last year, boring titles, then they'll get it on the 360 or simply not bother..!

[DaCandyman]

From PES when the Framerate is at 60fps, at least 60fps was attempted. But to flat out state that 60fps for the PS3 was a thing in the past and have this happen kind of shows that either your staff needs to go back to DeVry and take the classes that they cheated on. Or this happened...
Secretary says to Peter Moore:
Secretary: "Hey Peter do you have any more of that candy bar"
Peter: "What candy bar? You know I don't like chocolate."
Seretary: "well your face is all covered with chocolate. And Bill Gates always brings chocolate everytime you two meet."
Peter: "He never brings chocolate. Maybe a sack of nuts but never Chocolate."

[power of Green]

You people are full of it, many PS3 games have issues not just the 3rd party games from EA and other 3rd party companies in the industry.

[daflint]

Thats right! I remember the first x360 games in the begining, they where far from good. But they got better, right?

But i can´t realy agree that the x360 is better, maby the 3rd party games @ this point but later on i think that the ps3 will work just fine alongside my x360.

[FirstknighT]

Just another day in the neighborhood.

[mighty_douche]

i have no intention of buying this game yet i still feel the need to spam website with my biased crap, anything that isnt on the 360 is crap and i just wanna thank my mummy for buying me one for xmas.

[brothersimon]

we all know ps3 sucks.

[daflint]

Once again it turned in to a imature fanboy catfight.
Grow up!
There is no perfect console in the world, every mature human with some common sence knows that.

PS3 Sucks, Xbox360 sucks and the Wii Sucks, but at the sametime the Ps3 is great, Xbox360 is great and the Wii is also great!

[fredy]

KONAMI does not know how to program either with it's frame rate issues..

Ya know Konami they are behind the Metal Gear series..Oh yeah they suck at programming, how about that.

ever WONDER about Sony and it's hardware/support? Yeah maybe that..think for once lemmings

- The Sony PS3tard Excuse list posted a while back[forgot who]

"I hate EA" (and UBI, Activision, Capcom, id, Epic, and 2K)
"EA is MS's b!tch"
"MS funds all review-sites"
"EA=Peter Moore"
"Just Wait"
"Just wait till 08"
"just wait till 09"
"Lazy"
"Lazy devs"
"ring of death"
"lazy"
"EA sucks"
"EA can't make good games" (Battlefild, most sports titles, Burnout, The Sims and upcomming Crysis and Army of Two)
"f**k EA"
"wait"
"when"
"somday"
"fantasy"
"lie"
"f**k Peter Moore"
"f**k MS"
"EPIC UNREAL engine is CRAP supposedly"

Feel free to Add...

On this article something is wrong with the PS3's hardware.Ok maybe not wrong but it aighn't Right for Gaming.

[wageslave]

Somewhere under ""MS funds all review-sites"

You should add:

"reviews dont matter"
"But, PS3Fan.com gave Lair 9.9!"

[Dark_Overlord]

First thing, the ones that usually spout about fanboys are usually the fanboys themselves

Now thats out the way, did i ever in any single post i have made say that Sony have created the best hardware with the easiest development. No thought not, but then again people are so quick to jump to conclusions on this site and accuse people of being fanboys, while making themselves look like fanboys.

Anyway read my reply above, and you will see that I even say Sony has hardware/software problems, which they are at least trying to sort out. But I don't believe Sony is entirely to blame

Also quite a lot of the big game companies outsource a lot of their work to a certain software development company (can't remember the name, but if I find it I'll post it here)

[Imalwaysright]

All i got to say is that im worried with what EA is going to do with Half-life they better not screw that game for PS3 owners

[mighty_douche]

about pointless crap... yay its like a personal victory for me when xbox does something better cos i live my life through that bunch of plastic and copper.

you know at one point in my life i thought about getting a girlfriend but then i realised why have a girlfriend when you have M$. bill... if you ever get chap ass, ill lick it for you...

[green]

If anyone read the November edition of CAR magazine the Audi R8 was voted Performance Car of the year.

It wasnt the most powerfull - Lamboghini Gallardo extra 120 bhp
it wasnt the best handling - Porsche 911gt3
Nor was it the best value or the most practical

But it won because any driver no matter how inexperienced you were could easily ring out the best performance from the driver without it suddenly biting back and spitting you off the road. In othere words you look like a hero with good drivng skills and a God if you are trully skilled.

Now this is were i make my point.The Ps3 is more powerfull than the 360 but it is 2 difficult to get that power out from the system without the risk of bankruptcy to smaller 3rd party developers.The 360 dosent need that much to ring out a sizeable amount of performance from it and if your one of the big boys then you can really produce some jaw dropping results with it.

To make Sonys matter even worse, they are not even as helpfull as microsoft in helping 3rd party developers when they hit a brick wall.As easy as the 360 is Microsoft still offers good support to 3rd party developers.

Sony developed this attitude years ago,and became arrogant in the process.It worked from them in the past when they were miles ahead in the console war but now they really dont know how to change their habits because as we all know habits are difficult to drop.

I dont want them 2 win this generation because of their past arrogance.But not 2 loose too the point were they wont bother making a new console (that will be devastating 2 gaming in general).But i think that it will enable them 2 situp,listen to the consumers and developers more and then produce a system that we all can enjoy.Microsofts of today is changing abit due to lessons they are learning from the gaming world.

We should all be gratefull that the industry is as powerfull as it is.

Anyway to put some humor here, i heard the movie industry is blaming the poor box office sales in america for the month of september on video games.SOmeone tell them to make good movies instead of that horrible Heartbreak kid.

[PaulyG]

EA honestly sucks!!! Plain and simple.

[FF7numba1]

screw Ea and how is this ps3 news? We already know most of ea sucks.

[jessupj]

Maybe an open platform would be a good thing. There'd be no stupid, ignorant fanboys that I want to stab in the face.

[tudors]

"you xbox fanboys just won't admit it will you. The PS3's cell processor is a lot more powerful then the 360. You think MGS4 or GT5 could ever run on the 360? They would have to be greatly down graded."

Yes i think the xbox-360 could do both of those games and Killzone 2 also.

Sorry to say this but 4D and 120fps is not happening on the PS3. The PS3 needs a memory upgrade and at least a 7200rpm hard-disk otherwise no matter how good the cell is there will always be bottleneck.