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PS3 Could Still Finish First When This Gen Finishes

GPT: "Despite the issues Sony has faced recently with PSN, there’s no denying the long-haul capability the Playstation 3 possesses. This is already being proven with the recent news of Nintendo’s next console likely releasing within a year from now even though the Wii released at the same time as the PS3. So is it too farfetched to think that the PS3 could pull of a Super Nintendo? The SNES trailed the SEGA Genesis for most of the 16-bit generation, but when the dust settled, it was the Super Nintendo that ruled the 16-bit sales charts."

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BeaRye4731d ago

PS3 can still win on exclusives alone.

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GunShotEddy4731d ago

Anyone who counts out the PS3 has no idea what the console is capable of. It is the most advanced console ever created.

DankJemo4731d ago (Edited 4731d ago )

Of course, it's got the most hardware behind it, but there is a lot to consider with Sony, especially in the last six weeks or so... The Wii has long since reached it's "Shelf life" that's why we are hearing stuff about Nintendo's new system (supposedly,) although Sony is really shooting itself in the foot right now, with all the security breaches they have on literally a daily basis it will be very interest to see how that affects their business model, because you can have the most advanced hardware, but if you can't keep it or your users safe that piece of hardware really isn't worth that much.

Focker4204731d ago

I haven't counted out the PS3 once this entire gen. Based on the extremely high sales numbers of the PS2 I'm certain we can expect a similar outcome with the PS3 when the price drops. Many not PS2 numbers but something close.

thats_just_prime4731d ago (Edited 4731d ago )

Next gen starts in 2012 so there is now way ps3 will be in 1st or even 2nd place by then. If you count the next gen when the ps4 comes out then yeah maybe $ony will hold on to their old tech till 2020 just to finish 1st. Oh and the ps3 isnt likely to see another price drop this gen. If it does it only be by like 50 dollars

hiredhelp4731d ago (Edited 4731d ago )

Theyve won already against microsoft. But not sure with nintendo they have alot there own games.

SuperLupe4731d ago

How have they already won against MS since they're still trailing a couple of mullions of units behind and the 360 ?

Why o why4731d ago

Mullions. How many,, jk anyway it matters not to me but thats what happens when you give your nearest competitor almost a year and half headstart. Huffing and puffing isnt quite accurate but ms has definitely put its mark on console gaming. The market is bigger so theres enough space for all to thrive. The playstation3's longevity seems to be bigger than both the wii and 360 so maybe it will end up with the most units sold. We'll see i suppose

Redgehammer4731d ago

Globally The gap is 3.4 million behind the 360. So, although, Sony may have passed MS in your world, it has not in the real world.

gamingdroid4731d ago (Edited 4731d ago )

Won against MS?

Really?

Considering, only MS and Nintendo are the ones to increase both market share and total units sold!

I believe Sony is the only one that hemorrhaged market-share to MS and Nintendo....

hiredhelp4730d ago (Edited 4730d ago )

forget the sales, ansew me this question then
why are more guys on n4g saying they own both systems then. if not selling well cos past couple years that wasnt the case.
everyone was anti sony except the sony buyers. but since the price dropped and more exclusives and free online everybody wants a slice of the action.

im not intrested never have been on console sales. i go by the growth i found of people ive met in playstation home and on n4g to name a few that have had 360's or still have 360's

they have over taken ms by exclusives is what im mainly aiming at. why i stated nintendo do alot of there own games weather by 3rd partys doing for them.

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Raoh4731d ago

Nintendo does. Outside of a few titles here and there, third parties have slammed the wii and some have just ignored it completely.

So how does nintendo get by? First Party Titles.

Everyone got excited at last years E3 Nintendo 3DS showing, what excited them? First Party Titles.

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ThePsychoGamer4731d ago

Sales wise they may be able to pass the 360 in sales by the time Sony releases the PS4, but I think Sony would have to release a 150-200 PS3 model soon and support the console well into the PS4's lifespan to have any chance of beating Nintendo in terms of sales.

news4geeks4731d ago (Edited 4731d ago )

What if the ps3 keeps selling long after the demise of the wii. It's not impossible that the ps3 could sell well over 100million and surpass the wii. Unlikely, but you never know with a $200 ps3.

maxcer4731d ago

by that logic the last(ps2) gen isn't over yet because they still sell the thing.

this generation will be over as soon as the first new console comes out. unless your a fanboy and you decide when the generation ends to suit your needs.

i.e."this gen isn't over until ps3 passes the 360/wii in sales. derp"

news4geeks4731d ago (Edited 4731d ago )

That's just silly. You can't disregard sales because newer technology is out. It still counts as a console in the home and a sale for the company.

You're arguing from the perspective of a fanboy war whereas I'm arguing from the perspective of a business.

ps2 is still selling and those console sales count for sony. If xbox or gamecube were still selling they would count for nintendo and microsoft. You can't disregard a console as a failure and a loss because it sells slowly in the short run but big in the long run. The hardware is finished when the public stop buying it irrespective of what the fanboys think.

Prepare for this gen to be over when project cafe releases. /sarcasm

evrfighter4731d ago

Once a next gen engine title launches...thats it gen over. A good indicator would point to bf3 as it cuts out dx9 entirely. Still yet to be decided until more info is released

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PSjesus4731d ago

Who cares,PS3 had a lot of AAA exclusives,been the first
BR player for most of us and that's enough for me.

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Valk4731d ago

@Snake, so you are saying thr majority of PS3 owners have no taste in games?

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers18d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken17d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g18d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing18d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H918d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola17d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66918d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle18d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg18d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos18d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola18d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies39d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken38d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga38d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken38d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6438d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long38d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197238d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic38d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12538d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91338d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer38d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91338d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit38d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher38d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6938d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit38d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher38d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken38d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197238d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic38d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2338d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218338d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder38d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts38d ago

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