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Insomniac defends decision not to add trophy support to Resistance: Fall of Man

Insomniac Games defends their decision of not adding trophy support to Resistance: Fall of Man in the midst of several recent complaints from a few fans.

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scotchmouth4737d ago

Well that seems like a fair answer to me.

zootang4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

No defence, it's got no trophies! It can't be hard to put 2 men on it for a couple of months.

@below

Thanks for caring.

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scotchmouth4737d ago

Well originally when I went into this article that was my exact line of thought. Evidently it is more time consuming then we think.

Trying to see it from his perspective it is more cost effective to have every employee doing other things. That makes sense to me. I assume adding trophies to older titles would fall a bit on most developers "to do" lists.

outwar60104737d ago

not true i like to think people have my playstation page bookmarked and are constantly refreshing it to see what trophies i have

tablav4737d ago

@soundslike Cared enough to comment.

guitarded774737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

Yeah, I like to think I started that riot on the PS Blog.

PS: Take your comments to the PS Blog and let James Stevenson know what you think.

tehpees34737d ago

I'd rather they work on resistance 3

aCasualGamer4737d ago

Resistance: Fall of man, is the best launch game of this gen. Really rich singleplayer mode with added splitscreen functionality. It had the greatest multiplayer mode and if it weren't for the lack of support in online servers i would still play it. Best sniper weapon.

...it never needed trophies. It is, on it's own, the best launch game of this gen.

captain-obvious4737d ago

the game is freakin old
give it up already

Elimin84737d ago

I agree. Naughty Dog did it for U1 while working on U2. No one knew they were working on 2 then! Look how it "2" turned out?! Awesome!!!

SoapShoes4737d ago

@Elimin8 - Naughty Dog also wasn't working on multiple games. They had more time with U2 than Insomniac did, so...

I really don't see the point, it has skill points which are exactly like trophies.

BattleAxe4736d ago

Well if Bluepoint Games could add trophies to God of War 1 + 2 for The God of War Collection, then I don't see what the big deal is here. They just didn't want to spend the time I guess.

MintBerryCrunch4736d ago

its been what 5-6 years since the games release....let it go already

phinch4736d ago

There is already an in game achievement list in resistance one, can't be hard to just add the trophies to that

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No FanS Land4737d ago

Sony should have added 2nd party games when they announced they would retro add trophies.

Or since it's sone kind of republishing, the trophies should be mandatory, as they became so in jan. 2009.

nopunctuation4736d ago

I personally think that insomniac is being lazy with this. It is not as hard to patch for trophies as they make it seem. Sony said it only takes about 2 weeks. They cant spare two weeks to do this? No ps3 game is really good without trophies and it has cost us way too much from good games already. I used to play R1 all the time and it deserves better than this. After that mess that was R2 I dont have high hopes for any sequels.

just_sayin4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

Ps3 games are not really good without trophies what about R&C:TOF, HS, VC,MGS4 all great games without trophies

MidnytRain4736d ago

"No ps3 game is really good without trophies..."

I believe that just cost you all of your credibility, nopunctuation.

TBM4736d ago

Wow is not having trophies in this game world ending for some of you people with the way your complaining? Its not that serious get over it they are not going to put it in and that's final.

They are working on 3 new games and im perfectly happy with that. Not having trophies in RFOM is not world ending for me and it should be for you people either.

TheLastGuardian4736d ago

"If it was at all feasible, we would do it. It would significantly take from Resistance 3, therefore we will not do it."

If I remember correctly, Naughty Dog added trophy support to Uncharted: Drake's Fortune while Uncharted 2 was in developement and It obviously didn't hinder Uncharted 2's greatness.

I hope Sony can put some devs on the job and get Resistance Fall of Man a trophy patch. I'd play through R:FOM and R2 again if R1 got trophies before Resistance 3 comes out.

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Adva4737d ago

Why would they add trophies to a 4 year old game? Not logical. Same with MGS4.

BlackTar1874737d ago

well MGS4 is only 4yrs old now. It wasn't when trophies were first announced. I want MGS4 trophies i got my big boss emblem and i would like a sure way to show everyone i have it. EGO thing between me and my friends and co-workers

tablav4737d ago

This is a point I made recently. No disrespect to you at all, but that's all trophies are...an ego trip. Back in the day, you would just tell people of your gaming exploits and that was enough.

As for MGS 4, I think running around with Stealth, Bandana & the Patriot are reward enough.

Jack-H4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

I disagree with the other guy that responded to you, I also mean no disrespect to him. I'm not a "trophy whore" by any means. But I appreciate well placed trophies that you get when you do something incredible(big boss emblem ect). I don't see it as an ego trip at all. It can be FUN to hunt down certain trophies.

mandf4736d ago (Edited 4736d ago )

I'm replying to the guy that said trophies are just ego. I like trophies because gamers can't lie and say they played a game or say they beat it. For some people who thought they were once good got exposed for the fraud of a gamer they always were. As long as someone just has fun with games trophies shouldn't matter. For those trying to get ahead of someone it's a challenge.

Games used to be all about score. Trophies are a score in a sense. If you don't care about trophies fine, but don't degrade those who put the time into games. If your score is lower than another it shows you are less dedicated to gaming. Doesn't make you less of a person. Don't think cause someone has a higher score than you they are a loser. They are the hardcore gamer that tries everything.

edit no disrespect to anyone

BlackTar1874737d ago

None taken... I have been gaming since card readers and the big boss emblem is something only i have out of my friends. I like the idea of having a trophy for it. Kind like how i like to have ribbons on my chest. Sure i can tell people what happen but nothing says it like pin on your chest.

I understand what your saying but the scene has changed with technology as much as i relish the past i like to live in the future.

thanks for the response game on

CynicalVision4737d ago

Playing the game is it's own reward. :)

Kalowest4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

"Playing the game is it's own reward. :)"
I beat the game with my cousin(Co-op), and OMG was it fun/Hilarious. R1 is an awesome game, and adding trophies would increase the re playability. .

multipayer4737d ago

They can't, because it is better than Resistance 2 & 3 combined and they wouldn't make any money this fall... What they can do is give us their new 30 frame offering that gets heavy inspiration from call of duty multiplayer if that cheers you up...

tablav4737d ago

Wow, disagrees for people who want a dev to get on with a new game. All they need to say is that it's not a new game, so there's nothing to make them put trophies in it.

I thought they would add trophies, but it certainly isn't the end of the world.

gamerz4737d ago (Edited 4737d ago )

Yep.. all games have a budget and since trophies didn't exist when FoM was created it wasn't in the budget, nor was the code even designed to support trophies so it's not so easy to simply tack them on afterwords. Then estimate the actual cost of adding trophies, say $45,000 - and offer to add them if someone will fund its development. Let the gamers who want trophies donate money for the cause and if they raise enough I'm sure they'd be happy to add them. They're in business to make money and profit is the bottom line.

coolasj4737d ago

It's also about time. Taking out time from Resistance 3 for trophies in RFOM means that a feature(s) might actually get "CUT" from R3. I don't know about you but I don't want to see an article on the PSBlog that says " Trophies for RFOM! But, a weapon was cut from the R3"

news4geeks4737d ago

Not that I care but I refuse to believe giving RFoM trophy support would force them to cut features from R3. They don't do it because there is no value in it for them to patch a game that is now 4 years when its sales are all but finished.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro67d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7267d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_67d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga67d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2367d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200068d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin68d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole68d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix68d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198967d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor68d ago (Edited 68d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198967d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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Ranking the Resistance Games From Worst To Best

While it's been on ice for as long as it was around, the Resistance franchise has no shortage of quality.

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Knushwood Butt744d ago

My take:

Single player
3, 2, 1

Multiplayer
3, 1, 2

Overall
3, 2, 1

I beat the lengthy single player in 1 multiple times and spent hours in the online too. Plus 1 featured my home town! Special mention to the audio design in 1: playing that with surround headphones blew me away.

Note: I have the platinum for Resistance 2.

Eidolon743d ago

Resistance 1 MP will always be my favorite. Call it nostalgia or whatever, but that was my jam, felt more balance, natural.

Miraak82 743d ago

i have the platinium too , 10k kills in online ranked matches was no joke . Took me 3-4 months straight grinding but it was fun . To put it in perspective you only got like 25 kills per match if you were 1st place every match that's at Least 400 matches in 1st

Sciurus_vulgaris744d ago

I only played the 3 main Resistance titles. My ranking would be;
1. Resistance 3
2. Resistance: Fall of Man
3. Resistance 2

GoodGuy09744d ago

Man I loved 3's campaign. Another gem stuck on the ps3 and who knows if insomniac will go back to the franchise.

fr0sty743d ago

Resistance, Warhawk, MAG, Motorstorm, there's so many first party gems on PS3 that Sony has just left to die...

P_Bomb744d ago

Never played Burning Skies but I still have Retribution.

monkey602743d ago

Burning Skies was about 3 hours long and rather inconsequential. You haven't missed anything

porkChop743d ago

Honestly, Burning Skies was shit. There's no two ways about it. At first I thought it looked terrible, then I second guessed myself. Big mistake.

darthv72742d ago

Retribution has this really cool feature where you could use a PS3 to link a controller to it and play. So if you had a 2000 or 3000 hooked to a tv, you can use a real controller. All of this predates the PSP Go's ability to sync a sixaxis to it via bluetooth.

Yui_Suzumiya743d ago

Resistance 3 was shocking and brilliant. Loved it.

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Days Gone Director Pitched Open World Resistance; Wasn't Interested in Syphon Filter Reboot

Days Gone director & former Bend Studio dev Jeff Ross says he pitched an open-world Resistance game to Sony; he wasn't interested in a Syphon Filter reboot.

P_Bomb859d ago (Edited 859d ago )

Sony rejected an open world Resistance? Come ON guys. Stop with these timed deals for Deathloop etc and let’s go!

This plus the fact Days Gone hit 9 million has me scratching my head this week. Why so cynical?

porkChop859d ago

Resistance doesn't need to be open world though. Just because it can technically work doesn't mean it's a good direction for the franchise.

P_Bomb859d ago (Edited 859d ago )

No I know, but seeing as the franchise has no current direction, I’m in the camp of anything’s better than nothing. Could always just dip a toe in like GOW, TLOU2.

excaliburps858d ago

Well, yeah, but any new Resistance is good! LOL! XD

EvertonFC858d ago

Agree tbh it sounded straight off the bat what halo infinite turned into but just a resistance version of it.

Army_of_Darkness858d ago

An open world resistance based on resistance 3 would be awesome ballz!

CanadianTurtle858d ago

As a huge fan of the series, an open-world Resistance would not be a bad idea. Especially if it had Day's Gone's gameplay engine. Replace the motorcycle with a military hummer or a chimeran vehicle. I think it could work very well.

The problem with continuing Resistance as a linear FPS game is that the market doesn't respond to those games anymore. I think the games industry is tired of 8 hour (linear-shooter) campaigns. That was acceptable in the PS3/360 days but now I think the industry wants more. IF a new Resistance game were to come out and it followed the gameplay structure of the original trilogy, it would be regarded as "just another FPS." But if it got the Days Gone treatment, it can attract a larger fanbase.

Rhythmattic858d ago (Edited 858d ago )

Porkchop
Maybe they're not considering the halo effect ?
Mwhahahahahaha

Mr_cheese858d ago

I'd try any new resistance experience but if I'm being truly honest, my first instinct is that it would not touch the heights of the original trilogy and should continue to be a story driven linear campaign. Especially with the technology afforded in this gen, even linear can have a very open feel to it.

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sparky77858d ago

That 9ml was an estimate, he confirmed he doesn't have executive level sales figures so he just guessed. I would assume it was much lower than that with the majority coming from PS+ and discounts.

If Sony brought Housemarquee after Returnal didn't sell 9ml, it's obvious sales aren't all Sony cares about.

jukins858d ago (Edited 858d ago )

Thats what im thinking. Ntm the game was on sale relatively faster than most sony 1st party games. Released buggy horrible framerate that took months to "fix" and it took about 10chours of slow paced gameplay till you got to a point where you got enough mods tools and guns for it to be enjoyable.

I find it weird that all the sudden ppl are praising the game asking for a sequel just because a former director said it sold x amount. Given the 6 year cycle, bad launch, 50/50 reception and to leads who were supposedly not a good fit leaving/ getting fired shows why sony probably didnt greenlight a sequel

EvertonFC858d ago

He didnt guess ffs, he used data from a trophies website with there own internal data which matched up.

Ausbo858d ago

That’s different though. The ps5 was in its infancy when returnal released. Different sales targets

MrBeatdown858d ago

If they were pitching some kind of third person, open world Resistance with destructible environments similar to Red Faction Guerrilla where you can take down Chimera towers and giant robots, sure. But I don't want Far Cry with aliens, which is all I see this being.

I'm fine without another Days Gone too. I have yet to play much of it, but it seems like a great game with a tired setting. I'm not dying for more zombies.

I'll take Syphon Filter in any form though.

arkard858d ago

It was revealed the director didn't use officisl sales figures.

https://www.gameinformer.co...

porkChop857d ago

Yeah I saw. You can't base sales on trophies. Those trophies include anyone who bought the game used, borrowed from friends, households with more than 1 gamer, rentals, PS+ subscribers, review copies, etc. Those altogether would account for likely at least a couple million PSN accounts.

What I find ridiculous is that he says he still "stands by" his numbers. If the game was as successful as he thinks it was then Sony wouldn't have shot down any chance of a sequel. He shouldn't have gone around talking shit like he did with a source as flimsy as trophies, he made a fool of himself. He likely burned some bridges, limiting his options in the future.

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porkChop859d ago

As far as Syphon Filter goes, it's a shame that after two generations of leaks and rumors the game was never actually in development. MGS is dead, Splinter Cell might as well be dead from what we've heard. Sony's had a massive opportunity to come in and take over a dormant genre, and they're just dragging their feet. So many opportunities to bring franchises back and they just don't.

Magog859d ago

They already did. TLOU2 is the best stealth game I've ever played.

GhostofHorizon859d ago

Rumors from multiple sources have it that an open world 3rd person tactical stealth game is in works as a first party Playstation game. Perhaps they just didn't want to double down.

CaptainHenry916858d ago

I saw that but who's the developer?

GhostofHorizon858d ago

I don't think it mentioned a developer.

Exvalos858d ago

Splinter cell is coming back, it was confirmed already.

porkChop858d ago

Yes. I know that. I didn't say it is dead, I said it might as well be. They're literally making a "stealthy Assassin's Creed" but with Splinter Cell paint.

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Relientk77859d ago

*Sigh* I don't know if Syphon Filter is ever coming back

KeyAppearance859d ago

I really wish we got more grounded action-crime or action-espionage games, not everything has to be over the top action RPGs and have sci-fi/superhero/fantasy elements.

Especially after seeing that jawdropping Matrix showcase... we can really rival some great action films if done right :O

Phantom68858d ago

Shame about Siphon Filter as I believe there is a market for it.
Also, there are some rumors that Sony is working on a new game that mix both Splinter Cell and MGS features.
Let's hope it is true.

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