PS3Center.net express what they thought about the new Gran Turismo 5: Prologue demo on the PlayStation 3.
iLLGaming contributor Anikait Makkar writes about the gaming industry's current business practices, and how it affects the consumer.
free to play no matter how good the game is if it is a free to play i dont play.
i want to pay full price for a full balanced experience unlocks shouldn't be earned by money but by the hard work you put in the game.
my free to play nightmares are borderlands,diablo,titanfall,w arhawk 2,halo and star wars battlefront.
If you have ever played Path of Exile, that is the best way of microtransactions ever. PoE is a great game. Its what Diablo 3 should have been and it is completely free. All the items for purchase are cosmetic and the store isnt intrusive at all. In fact, I had to actually look in the menu to find where the microtransactions are housed.
But for the most part, yes. F2P is garbage.
I would add Warframe to that list as well. Very much like you describe. Everything that you need is offered to you in game. Things that you pay for are either cosmetic or for convenience (i.e., you are impatient). Might not be the game for you, but the F2P structure is pretty sound.
I agree.
The whole F2P model is designed to keep the user playing and paying well past an ordinary retail price. Most devs also design features that prey on a person's gambling, need to collect or complete an objective as soon as possible type of vice.
Trust I worked at Zynga and you should read the design tricks and tactics used to squeeze every penny out of their user base.
Yes, every company has their tactics but the F2P design in most video games is so blatant and disgusting. I stay away from those games...well I try but that damn Marvel Alliance... :(
A great example of a game that features the blood sucking F2P model would be Warthunder.
The Valve f2p model is really good. You don't have to pay a dime or grind for hours to get items to boost your "skills". You just happen to want more hats so you pay money for them.
Edit: I'm just not sure it's so simple as lumping free to play as bad....
That's pay to win which is a derivative of free to play, and which is also very common amongst AAA $60 retail games. The $60 lures you into a false sense of free.
There are games attempting many facets of the free to play model and some are pretty good, like planet side, some private servers, team fortress, DOTA and warframe WHERE you literally never (have to) spend anything - I didn't on planet side 2 with 20+ hours, and similar with warframe.
There are also some like killer instinct and warframe (KEYWORD: CROSSOVER) where it's basically a glorified demo. KI has only one/two characters, and warframe trenches you into a character you might not like in a little (but least you can build a new one several hours later).
Then there are the worst of the worst where you have to pay to win. Sometimes it's by buying upgrades to your gear like in runes of magic, or buying overly expensive increased experience in leveling grinding games like Rohan: Blood Feud.
Where I'm coming from: I had a free to play phase where I played (in no particular order but memory):
ragnarok (both subscribed before free to play, and free to play), path of exile, dragons nest, cloud nine, holic, requiem: bloodymare, runes of magic, tribes, warframe and planetside 2 (pre-ps4), blacklight, dcuo, dragon's nest, maple story, runes of magic, Farmville, clash of clans, team fortress 2 (actual, I bought it that long ago), dota, league of legends, lotr online, minecraft, wizard 101, dungeon fighter, many aria and net gear games, perfect world...
And many more that I can't remember because I don't want to.... And by played, I would say I spent more than 5+ hours (but mainly 20+ on aforementioned titles) on each of those game listed above, sometimes hundreds.
Worst business practices
Paying to play online (PS+, XBL)
Season passes
disc locked content
Paid DLC (DLC should be free unless it is significant enough to be an expansion)
Paying to Play Online: It's a service. A TV is a product, cable is a service. A playstation is a product, PS+ is a service. How many services do you get for free? I'm sure you pay a cellphone bill as well.
Season Passes: I 100% agree on here. Never pay for anything that is not guaranteed to be coming.
Paid DLC: No one says you have to buy it. If it's cosmetics or trivial things such as Themes and Avatars there's no problem with it. You don't HAVE to buy it. It takes resources to MAKE dlc. Why would a company (video game companies are profit maximizers, btw) go and make a whole DLC questline or storyline and then give it to you for free? That brings ZERO marginal revenue to the company. I know it sounds great, and companies that do it are great. But the suits up top, yea they don't care. That's just business. Just because you bought an entre doesn't mean the dessert is going to be free. And AGAIN, you don't have to buy it or support it.
Games are NOT services. We pay full price for them and that means that we should be able to play 100% of their content with no additional cost.
"Paid DLC" Then people complain no DLC is coming for there particular system or game.
I agree with you mostly, but I disagree with ps+...
I bought into that in 2011 and don't regret it. It's like Sega channel, but feasible.
Maybe I just play too many games, so ps+ makes sense.. Like the payday 2, remember me, bioshock infinite, outlast, and more in the last month or two... I would have had to spend an easy few hundred on those games I wanted to play.
Paying to use your own internet, DLC (all of it, I'd rather have expansion packs with a ton of content), DLC coming out a week after the game's release, incomplete games with missing sections sold as DLC, pre order bonuses, short and pointless campaigns, not having server lists (like COD which insert you into random games and maps), expensive and permanent digital prices, yearly sequels with minor changes at full price, lack of challenging AI, lack of originality, and most of Micro$ofts "business practices." This may sound like a hateful statement, but I blame M$ for bringing most of these things to consoles. I remember when there free and inexpensive map packs on Live in the early years of 2006 and 2007, then they started pinching pennies.
Who else here has been gaming long enough to remember when paying $50 got you the WHOLE game? No left-out content sold as DLC, disc-locked content, season passes, outfits, avatars, etc.
Excuse me, I need to go have a cry at what has happened to my beloved hobby.
Amen brother, plus there wasn't as much bugs as there was today. Nearly 80% of games have patches
Ea happened,Capcom happened these giant shameless corporations has bastardized the gaming industry with their BS money-grabbing tactics and ruined so many amazing games (Battlefield,Resident evil and many more).Very sad indeed.
TechPrezz: The Grand Turismo 5 update 2.08 is set to be released and coming with a trio of new DLCs and will be launched on coming Tuesday
The new cars include the Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy ’12, the Subaru BRZ S ’12 and the Honda weider HSV-010 (SUPER GT) ’11, with a cost of $0.99 for each of them. The update also include some enhancements apart from the fix to reported bugs.
With this update, you will be bale to select “Disable collisions” in the [Event Settings] of online races and the clutch pedal response while using the steering wheel controllers “G25 Racing Wheel”, “G27 Racing Wheel”, “T500RS” and “TH8RS” has been adjusted. The ID’s are now shown above cars when watching online races. There are also some other improvements. The Grand Turismo 5 2.08 is coming as free downloadable update.
that's why i love the real driving simulator.
Wow updates for this game are still coming. i wish all companies were like this
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Here is my initial thoughts on the DEMO of Prologue...
Pros;
+ Car models are spectacular
+ Sense of speed is very realistic
+ Presentation, as expected, is wonderful
Cons;
- That god awful tyre screeching sound which isnt realistic
- Even the Mitsurbish Evo with hard suspension seems to have too much body roll. Under braking all of the cars seems to nose dive too much.
- The driving still feels a little loose and floaty compared to the current benchmark for simulation, which I consider to be Forza 2.
- I dont believe the AI is as strong as Forza's
- I so wish the PS3 controller triggers were more like the Xbox 360!
So then, quite a few negatives, but Im hoping that most or all of those can be fixed prior to release of Prologue or if not at the full release of GT5. Looking forward to to it!
Trailers were much better!
I found the demo to be a great improvment over past incarnations. It features greatly improved physics which results in much more realistic handling. The sense of the cars weight,momentum and power through corners are alot more realistic than in past games. Also to implimentation of 2 physics levels makes this more fun and challenging to hardcore sim fans like myself while still accessable to the general fanbase. The A.I. has seen great improvments gone are the constant ramming into your car of the computer controlled cars. Now if you cut them off on a corner they actually brake to avoid hittin you or if you would spin out on a straight the computer controlled cars swerve to avoid you. They jockey around for position amoungst themselves as well. Again just watch a replay and you'll see the way the A.I. drive amoungst themselves you see them goin around corners 2 wide in order to beat each other around the corner. The improved frame rate is also best evident during the in car view which lends perfectly to the sense of speed.
I will not go into the entensive detail about the visuals as we all know the game looks slendid.
All in all am very impressed by this demo, not because of hype but becuase i actually played it an judged it based on it's own merits and on it's improvements. If only we're all able to look past the so called hype an do so ourselves then am sure we'll all be able to appreciate it's many improvments.