Bethesda: Skyrim is "too big"

OXM UK: "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way to your local potion dispensary, but that's dragon-ingested peanuts to Skyrim. In fact, the game may be a little too large for Bethesda's comfort."

[Pikajew]

Every dev says their game is big

[Istanbull]

So with other words, game will be on multiple discs for the 360?

[Active Reload]

You must not have played any Bethesda games...

[Sabian187]

I don't care if Skyrim comes on 2 disks or 50, just as long as it plays off of one disk.

Knowing Bethesda... I still believe it is going to be on one disk, and it is going to be awesome.

[guigsy]

LA Noire having 3 discs had nothing to do with the map size, or else you would be changing discs every time you entered a new district.

[Perjoss]

games that come on 1 disc easily achieve 9 and 10 scores, just the same way games with multiple discs do, I see no problem.

[frostyhat123]

All of you Ps3 fanboys are bashing the 360 because some of their games have multiple discs. It's not a big deal at all! It literally takes 30 seconds to switch a disc. So for L.A. Noire your looking at 1 min of separation from you and the game. So ! minute vs the 5 minute install for the Ps3 version. Im not saying either one is better. But come on its not even that great of a advantage having one disc!

[DARK WITNESS]

The game can be on 3 or even 4 discs for all I care... it would still be faster swapping disks then it is waiting for MGS4 to load after each stage! Yes I own a ps3 and MGS4. Still crying about disk space, lol.

[Cenobia]

@frostyhat123

People are just taking advantage of the role reversal. PS3 people used to hear sh!t about installs, so now 360 people get sh!t about multiple discs.

I don't think anyone with just one of either console actually cares.

[Bnet343]

Xbox 360 has multiple disc games, PS3 has mandatory installs. . Grow the fuck up, no system is perfect. You learn to deal with these things and they really aren't console breakers. It's just another thing retarded fanboys fight over when in fact its no big deal.

[Vherostar]

Multiple disc games are freaking annoying. I will be getting the game on PS3 anyway as that's where I play my RPGs.

[maxcer]

that didn't stop Infamous from putting a smaller map on bluray. its smaller than gta that's for sure, i don't see the drones argument

[Tommykrem]

Actually map size doesn't have that much to say. Games like Just Cause 2 and Fuel can be massive without exceeding 6gb, while games like MGS4 take almost 50gb, because detailed animation and cut-scenes (especially if rendered in 1080p) take up way more space than even the better rendered environments do. Just Cause 2 is all on one disc after all.

[NoBias]

I'll be getting this game on whatever console was lead for it.

I love how the elitist PS3 users are okay with long a** updates and installs but a 10sec disc swap is too much for them. That will never make any sense to me.

But they have a lot of disagreeing to make up for now that PSN is back. Have at it fellas.

[Lawliet]

@NoBias
Tell me you're kidding right? Swapping disc in and out of an open world game!? Well good luck with that, cause I ain't exercising while feeding my console with disc for each sector I want my game to be in. I just want sit back and relax and play the damn game in peace!

I love Bethesda taking their game to a whole new level, but I hope they won't lesser down the spawns just like what they did to Fallout3 because that game is dead boring!

[pangitkqb]

This is my kinda news. Skyrim is my single most anticipated title of 2011. I'm literally taking the day off work.

[the_best_player]

5 disks

[Therealspy03]

nobody got the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy reference?

[Lifendz]

blu-ray is needed? That's basically what they're saying, no?

[meganick]

@frostyhat123
To me the biggest drawback to multiple discs is that you could end up losing or scratching one or more of the discs, making the entire game useless. Also, what if you have a huge 3 or 4 disc game and by the time you reach the last disc, you find out it doesn't work, but by then, you're warranty is over so you can't exchange it. There's lots of disadvantages to multiple discs other than the hassle of disc swapping mid-game.

[jessupj]

My most anticipated game of the year, but I still hate bethesda for continuing to treat PS3 owners like second class citizens by releasing their DLC first on the 360.

I don't even buy DLC, but it's the principle of the matter. You shouldn't segregate an entire half of your fanbase just because microsoft waves a big fact cheque in your face. I understand companies need to make a profit, but they shouldn't sacrifice their integrity. They'll lose money in the long run.

They would have made a sale from me, but because of their actions I'll be renting this or buying used.

[kingdavid]

"They would have made a sale from me, but because of their actions I'll be renting this or buying used. "

haha just because you have to wait a month or two for dlc? Please. DLC is such a small part of games. If you dont even buy DLC what the hell are you whinging about?

The game is 150 hours long, you're getting more bang for your buck than any other game. And you are talking about the "principle" of having to wait 1 or 2 months for an hour or 2 of DLC content you dont even play?

Im sorry but theres principle then there's stupidity.

[jessupj]

You obviously don't get what the principle is that I'm talking about. I literally spelt it out yet somehow you think I'm upset because I had to wait 2 months. Read my post again

[kingdavid]

Segregating an audience? I got that perfectly fine. But you're getting the fkn dlc eventually so what the hell is the problem? For a problem which doesnt even concern you.

I dont get exclusive dlc with my copy LA Noire on 360, I have to play with 3 discs and thats way worse than this situation but Who gives a crap? I sure as fk don't. I still get the full game. So what I miss out on a case? waa Im not gonna go cry like a bitch over it "DA PRINCIPLE".

Fact is you dont want to give your money to bethesda for such a small fking deal. If its your "most anticipated game" why the hell dont bethesda deserve your money? They work damn hard to make a quality product. Its no fkn wonder people say gamers are so damn finnicky.

[k2d]

Well, Jess.. I guess there's enough time for you to see the errors of your ways. 6 months of time.

[Crystallis]

Not only that but I lost faith in Bethesda. Their games are some of the most buggest games out there..Will skyrim be any different..I hope so.

[hassi94]

'principle'?

Really, this is pathetic. It doesn't even affect you. They get paid for it - so they take it.

It's laughable that you think you're taking some kind of higher moral ground...

[kaveti6616]

" You shouldn't segregate an entire half of your fanbase just because microsoft waves a big fact cheque in your face."

You're naive to think that the PS3 userbase makes up half of Bethesda's fanbase. Most Bethesda fans are on PC.

[jessupj]

Just because it doesn't affect me doesn't mean I shouldn't take a stand.

Maybe the world would be a better place if people like you didn't have such a selfish way of thinking.

Fact is Bethesda disadvantaged a percentage of their fanbase. It's a shaddy business practise at best.

What is pathetic is that you people are defending them on this issue. Seems like I touched a nerve.

[Sam Fisher]

hey jess i admire you in the fact that this gaming world is not all selfish. i give you a bubble+, not on what you said, just that you expressed yourself.

and i mean bethesda does deserve the money, they are one of the very few that gives us gamers what we want and more, they are sometimes buggy, but they fix eventually, they arent scared to give us alot and im not scarred to give them want they earned, they dont make half assed games

[JsonHenry]

I bet it still won't be as big as their 1997 release of TES:3 Daggerfall!

[Pintheshadows]

Daggerfall is insanely huge.

[Solidus187-SCMilk]

TES 2 is daggerfall

[frostypants]

Yeah, this is marketing fluff. They even say in this article that the world is the same size as Oblivions...i.e., 15 square miles. They're just cramming it with rugged terrain to slow you down a bit. Not a bad thing, but it sort of contradicts the headline's implication.

Want to know a game that was "too big"? Daggerfall (aka Elder Scrolls II). THAT was too big. It was nearly 200,000 square miles, and according to Wikipedia it had over 15,000 towns and dungeons. I can't say from experience, because even though I probably sunk 100 hours into that game, I probably experienced less than 10% of the world. It was just freaking MASSIVE.

Compared to Oblivion and Skyrim, that's like comparing a college campus to an entire state. I mean, is not even freaking close. 15 square miles vs. 200,000 square miles. It's almost laughable.

Now, granted, the Daggerfall world had a lot of cookie-cutter auto-generated stuff, but still, it was astonishing. It also had some amazing detail in terms of gameplay, in that you could buy property and ships, you could become a werewolf or vampire, it had guilds, etc. You could get lost in it for hours. All this and it was made 15 years ago.

Modern RPGs are high on detail, but they lack the awe inspiring scale of the old school stuff. I'd love to see more of a balance.

There's something to be said for a game world that actually feels like a WORLD, where the concept of exploring everything is as unlikely as it would be in real life, and you can just pick a direction and GO.

[ct03]

Daggerfall was indeed too big. It was so big that traveling by horse (as opposed to quick travel via the map) was pretty much impossible.
It took between 5 and 10 minutes to get from one PIXEL on the map to the next.

[frostypants]

Still, I'd take that vs. a game world that I could fully explore within an hour or so (if mobs weren't in the way).

[Rettom]

Unless the University is in Rhode Island.

P.S. Just trying to be funny :(

[saladthieves]

They do. For example I'm currently playing L.A. Noire, and it is BIG.

[duplissi]

@frostyhat123

you are right for the most part, but the reason i imagine most are annoyed by multiple disks is because it causes devs to have to cut content... microsoft charges royalties for each disk so a multi disk game will result in a smaller profit margin for the 360 version. id confirmed this about rage... and we all know what was cut from ff13...

[dirigiblebill]

How many discs, do you reckon?

[Caleb_141]

They confirmed that there would be one disc for all versions.

[NukaCola]

1 disc seems small. Lots of repeated textures and file compression. Look at RAGE which is on 2 discs and is 60 frames, true 720p, and every detail is hand crafted. 7-9gigs just doesn't seem sufficient enough for such a massive open world RPG.

[mijkil]

you do realise that the frames per second and resolution have absolutely nothing to do with disk-size, right?

[Active Reload]

^^^He probably doesn't, lol.

[green]

lol at N4G resident expert game developers like NukaCola.

[LocO_o]

@ Nuka - Your account should be banned just for that comment alone.

[frostypants]

Disk size absolutely has plenty to do with texture resolution. Sure, they could make low-res textures and render them at high res, but the net result of that is just a low-quality texture in high res. It's akin to polishing a turd.

[k2d]

Don't expect an -insane- graphics boost over Oblivion/Fallout..

[lastdual]

@Nuka

"I always assumed HD files were larger than SD files upscaled unless I am missing something. I am still sure the detail could be vastly improved by having more data space."

You do realize that in order to actually display those files you need to load them into RAM, right? You could have a super high-res 5 GB texture file, but since the console only has 512 MB of memory, you could never actually display it on screen.

The factors you're talking about - resolution and frame rate - have everything to do with RAM. It's the main bottleneck for both consoles. More disk space will help about as much as having a bigger hard drive will help you run PC games smoother...

[rob6021]

@lastdual

Open world games are meant to be streamed from the disk into the ram. This is how developers get around ram limitations. The ram is constantly being replenished with textures. It's hard to say it's a huge bottleneck, because doubling the RAM would mean doubling the load time for most games. No one wants to sit around for minutes for each level to load, and streaming wouldn't be fast enough to replenish more Ram then they have.

It's up to the Developers to find ways to reuse textures often and in ways the user doesn't necessarily notice. Having detailed high res textures all over the place (a la megatextures in RAGE) takes a lot of disk space. 7GB is a limitation for a game this big, there's no question about it - It's likely the trade off will be graphically.

[PS3Almeida]

Games like Skyrim, Rage, Witcher 2 should be played on PC. I think we'll see a big visuall difference between PC and Consoles according to these titles I mentioned above.

It would be a shame when they would decrease the game size for all versions because of Console limitations.

[Rainstorm81]

Of course it will be a visual difference, i mean 5-6 yr old console tech compared to new pc tech, but when has the game size been decreased due to "console limitations"? Which games?

Or are you just a PC elitist, talking out of his azz?

[Viper7]

Consoles do not limit the size of the game, graphical quality maybe, and possibly things going on the screen at once.

But the biggest world map is still on Daggerfall, which doesn't really need a super computer to run it properly. As for this generation, its probably Just Cause2 which plays really well on Ps3 and X360.

Personally I like how consoles pretty much force the developers to actually invent new methods and technology to get more out from less powerful system instead of just relying on computer performance.

[PS3Almeida]

Yes, I have a PC but my brother has both consoles so I play them too.

Look at Crysis 2: When you play Crysis 2 on PC you see that there is console-tech behind. In the menu and everything. Of course it looks more clear and overall better but they could have done more for the PC-Version. Well, Bethesda are great developers. The best Version of Oblivion offers the PS3 for example. So I think Skyrim will rock on PC and PS3.

[Petro]

You are actually right. You guys should take a look at Borderlands development.

[dirigiblebill]

Re. the disagrees - how exactly do you disagree with a question? Explain pls.

[superrey19]

He has a point though about higher res textures taking up more space. Imagine how much sharper the game would look if they didn't limit themselves to one dvd-worth of data.

[Kran]

Thats what she said.

(Somebody had to say it)

I just dread to know how many discs. The disc count ruins the game. There you are, SO IMMERSED into the game-

Insert Disc 2.

Real vibe killer

(below) Trust me. If I DO get Skyrim, which I aint decided yet, it WILL be the PS3 version.

[LegendarySins]

Agreed, though for games like this the PC version is the obvious choice if you can run it decent.

[aaronobst]

Well maybe for you, I'm going to get the 50GB blu ray version

[Caleb_141]

They confirmed that there would be one disc for all versions

[No FanS Land]

ayway. 360 owners don't have to worry, this kind of info doesn't take too much space on disc. It's mostly FMV's that take unnecessary space.

[Biggest]

I don't see how it's unnecessary. Maybe if gaming evolution stopped at text adventures it would be. Now that they're called VIDEO games I believe a bit of video should be involved.

[siyrobbo]

fallout new vegas is a huge game and only comes in at 4.8 GB, just cause 2 4.1 GB and that world is big as well

[thrasherv3]

How long do you play games at one time? And do you get hypnotized? Or drugged? This "vibe killer" seems like a cop out to me. And I thought it was well placed in ME2. I felt like I was accomplishing my goal and progressing the the story when that happened. Almost like a turning point(obviously that's what the devs were going for.)

I'm curious, what game did you play were you were so immersed in the game that you couldn't take your eyes of screen without losing its "vibe?"

[Fallouts]

I would love to read his reply to this cause I was wondering the same shit.

2 things bug me pc gamers that swear consoles hold them back and ps3 updates. I cringe when I go to play a ga on my ps3 to only have the moment killed cause the damn thing takes forever. I have both my 360 and ps3 wired and the 360 smokes it when it comes to any update. So yea the ps3 updates are the real vibe killer when u just want to get a quick game in before what ever u have to do

Anyway what I get from "its too big" is that we will have a lot of bugs to put up with I hope not. Looks like unless reviews say other wise it will not b a day one for me ill wait for the patch.

[Bnet343]

The real vibe killer is when you get home excited to play a game right away only to have to wait 10 minutes to install a 5 GB install.

[Rikan]

While your waiting for your game to install the rest will be playing already lol Seriously, grow up.

The game will 'rock' on all platforms. The only time it will 'rock' more, is on PC--as usual. I will have Skyrim loaded on my PC's SSD, loading in only seconds and playing it across Eyefinity-triple display on crossfired GPUs--THAT'S outdoing other platforms. The consoles are dated hardware that will perform <PC and equal to each other. Seriously, I can't stand how Sony kids say 'this game will be best on PS3 and PC', acting as though its comparable and in a higher league than the 360.

PS3/360, same shit different pile. Both are outdated underpowered dinosaurs, holding game development back. Stop arguing, start playing games.

[Theonetheonly]

My God man, well said!

"I can't stand how Sony kids say 'this game will be best on PS3 and PC'"

That is called piggybacking on the popular kid. Metaphor.

Bubble+

they should say it right: This game will be playable on 360/PS3, and will be best on PC.

why did i use the word playable? Ill give you a hint, it has to do with frame rate.

If a game is only playable on PC its time to upgrade. :)

[JOHN_DOH]

PC will probably be the best platform since it has the best controls, graphics, and the construction set but all pc games have to install too.

[KiWi1711]

There is no such thing as "Too Big" in an Open Fantasy World!

So long as, like, certain areas aren't recycled to a sickening degree of course.

[Kran]

Dragon Age II says hello.

[KiWi1711]

Aha, I was thinking exactly that when I was typing it up.

[No FanS Land]

or the copy pasta'd videos of FF XIV's map.

[aaabbbccc4324]

open world games can never be too big but they can be too small

[byeGollum]

yes they can

[guigsy]

I put over 100 hours into Oblivion and never saw the whole map. I think that's a good thing though, why should you be able to see everything in the world?

[outwar6010]

i put in close to two hundred over a fre characters and did :) then i tried assassinating everyone until i got bored

[rustyspoon80]

God bless Blu-rays. I agree, a game cant be too big, so long as it's not just copy/paste everything.

[Big_L]

Its so obvious that you didn't read the article

[Stealth20k]

they already said its as big as oblivion but maybe slightly smaller because of the mountains but they said it feels longer because you have to go around the mountains

thats what they said

[Corrwin]

We'll be the judge of that, Mr Bethesda man!

[Droid Control]

I don't mind changing a disc every 30 hours. I don't have a problem getting up ever 2 hours to chage a movie disc, i don't mind getting up to repleace one agame with another, why would getting up after 30 houirs to change a disc bother anyone?

That doesn't mean however that I don't like Blu-ray, i do. Its better for developers, its better for us.

[Lirky]

some developers have enough staff to balance a massive game on 1 disc, some dont have alot of staff so they have to make the full game multi discs.

[Psychotica]

Hopefully this will be on Steam so it will be no discs at all.

[TheIneffableBob]

Guaranteed to be on Steam. Might even have Steamworks support seeing as how Brink does.

[CNXN]

SKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYRIM!

[outwar6010]

lol no game can be too big. btw im thinking of getting a gaming pc and have seen ACER Predator G5900-1 and it is being sold for around 500 pounds will it run it and is this a good gaming pc? btw can it run witcher 2 other latest games??

[MasterCornholio]

So what if its big? They will just compress it to fit on one disk problem solved.

[BeastlyRig]

yes & my PC will be able to still have great textures on a massive scale!

[Psychonaughty]

What, nobody spotted the Hitch Hikers Guide reference? Shame on you N4G!

[barb_wire]

I can't wait to play this game!

Here's to hoping for a huge presentation at E3 next month.

[Tommykrem]

Just a little bigger than Oblivion and that will do very well. Glad to hear that there's so many points of interest. There were waaaaaaaaaaaaaay to few of those in Fallout 3.
I sure don't hope it's as big as Fuel or Just Cause 2 though, that'd be overkill. But I'm 99% positive it will be way less tha half the size of those games, since you don't have cars or planes.

[wumster]

There is one problem that i have with this game...it's not at my house being played.

[Rikan]

A boring install or a 10-sec disc-swap--pick your poison. Jesus, fanboy tards look for anything to argue about lol

While your waiting for your game to install the rest will be playing already lol Seriously, grow up.

The game will 'rock' on all platforms. The only time it will 'rock' more, is on PC--as usual. I will have Skyrim loaded on my PC's SSD, loading in only seconds and playing it across Eyefinity-triple display on crossfired GPUs--THAT'S outdoing other platforms. The consoles are dated hardware that will perform <PC and equal to each other. Seriously, I can't stand how Sony kids say 'this game will be best on PS3 and PC', acting as though its comparable and in a higher league than the 360.

PS3/360, same shit different pile. Both are outdated underpowered dinosaurs, holding game development back. Stop arguing, start playing games.

[Tommykrem]

If that's the case then that's good. Someone should hold "game development" down, or graphical development, which is what it seems like you're talking about so that developers can focus on what is actually important in game development, instead of wrapping their heads around different types of graphic cards every year.

If there's a reason to buy it on PC, though, I'd say mods. That's something that's making me think about buying it for PC, or maybe even for both.

[admiralthrawn87]

Oblivion was 16 square miles. this is going to be the same size. thats not really big if your talking about mere world size. i believe he's talking about big as in amount of game content. which yes it will be hopefully huge. But world size....the entire skyrim overworld could fit into half of northrend on world of warcraft, based on oblivion's size.

[Kee]

Well multiple discs just indicate that it's graphically impressive. So you'd know it's really graphically impressive if it came on multiple discs for PS3. I want to see the game that does that.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@Kee...I strongly disagree with your comment. Uncompressed games could easily span multi discs and still look like shit. Graphical prowess solely resides on the developers ability to develop on the engine they are using. Audio/video files can take up massive amounts of space...I could fill tons of discs with FMV video clips thrown into a game that looks like crap.

[SlyFoxC]

Thats what she said!

[Saryk]

Saying the game is too big is like saying my pay check is too big. Bring it on!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@Saryk... I don't want them to end up pulling a Dragon Age 2 and start re-using maps, etc... just because its too big and they are running short on time.

[Saryk]

My point was that there is not a such thing as a too big of a map. And in my long life of playing PC games I never heard of running short of time. If they run short of time, they push the game back. I do want a good game without a doubt so I can wait.

However I would have no problem if they did re-use the Oblivion maps as long as it was fresh content, but that is my personal opinion only.And if it was new maps,I still wouldn't complain.

As for pulling a Dragon Age 2, I beat the first one, but haven't played the second one, yet. So no opinion on that..............

[OC_MurphysLaw]

God, Bethesda says they think their game may be too big ...and everyone jumps on the "DVD space issue". If you read the article I think the real inference from it is from a "game play" perspective they feel its a bit too big. They are not talking about space issues, they are talking about game play and design issues in terms of making all the caves feel unique, etc...

[Jack-H]

I read somewhere that they said it was about the same size of oblivion. Which means it is HUGE of course.

[Bounkass]

It's never good is it?

[mook1022]

Please oh please oh please don't dumb this game down because you think its too big, all I want is a finished quality game, New Vegas ended up lacking considerably, as if it was rushed to be just put out and look at all the bugs...Bethesda, please do us all a favor and do not skimp on anything and get it right the first time!!!

[Bimkoblerutso]

That wasn't actually developed by Bethesda. That was Obsidian, who seems to have made a living out of making fun, yet inferior sequels to really high-profile games.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

The anticipation is drowning.

[bigjclassic]

It should have slight technical issues if ported to the machine. I can wait for the definitive version.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Oblivion on the 360 was just over 4gb meaning still 2.6gb available but upon the release of the 360 update there will be another 1gb of space available. So if Oblivion could look as it did along with its gameplay then I think Bethesda could easily get Skyrim on 1 disc for the 360.

[CrzyFooL]

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!

[bradolson]

Quote: "All of you Ps3 fanboys are bashing the 360 because some of their games have multiple discs. It's not a big deal at all! It literally takes 30 seconds to switch a disc."

Yeah... Xbots were laughing all the way to the couch when PS3 owners had to use a disk to watch Netflix. But now that 360 owners have to get up to switch disks it's not a big deal anymore, I guess. Fanboys need to get their stories straight.

[DOOMZ]

Bigger is better!!!

[Jake_Butler]

That's what she said! Too easy people, too easy!

[LOLOLFFSA]

I dont see how disc change could work on a game like this. It's open world and you can just explore the land without doing quests. My best guess is that the second disc would be mandatory to install, wait oh yeah not gonna happen since you can not do that because MS have stated from the very beginning that no mandatory installs because not everyone has a hdd. Does some people still play without hdd? Pfft amateurs..

[DC1980]

God bless the man that invented the Blu Ray disc

[M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L]

It's okay to bash the PS3 on Bluray but when it comes to the 360, no one can say a word about multiple disks. In this day and age, multiple disks is unacceptable. Both consoles may have their flaws, but f was to choose between consoles, I would choose the PS3.

[MetalFreakMike]

Well when the game gets released, it's going to be on MS's new format so it's going to have a Gig more room to work with. Also, they can just have it so you can install the second disc that contains side missions and extra items and just keep the main quest on one disc. I'm still getting it on my PS3 because I use that as my main RPG console but I see no real reason for them to cut content because it's "Too Big".

Also, they are complaining because it's giving them more work to do so it might not even affect if they can fit it or not.

[RAmar101]

what happens to millions or arcade or core owners then?

[MetalFreakMike]

Did you just not read what I wrote? You could play the core game on one disc and if you want the extra quests and items then you would have to get a hard drive. They did this with Forza 3. You get the main game on one disc and if you want the extra cars then you would have to get a hard drive for that.

I'm getting the PS3 version anyway and it was just a option for them to do. Don't act stupid.

[earbus]

Rimjob has dragons lol.

[RAmar101]

having game on 1 disk is much better than multiple disks theres no need to debate it.

disk swapping was ps1 era, there must have been only 1 or 2 xbox1 games that needed disk swapping 360 there are much more.

OT skyrim should be able to fit on 1 dvd, its not as if there are hundreds of different areas all with different assets

[MARKUS_MAX1MUS]

You remind me of myself bethseda, im already sold based on your kind comparison :)

[NotSoSilentBob]

confirmation for having the biggest list of bugs? ie more then Fallout3/Oblivion on PS3.

[Jocosta]

Reading about the variations on the maps and that they are handcrafted got me even more excited for this game. I didn't feel Oblivion had enough variety with its caves and locations.

[Araceae]

Don't care how big it is, because I have pretty much no faith in Bethesda. Both of the new Fallout games were so freaking buggy. They were pretty much broken. Maybe now that they aren't using the Gamebryo engine their games won't be as broken, but I'm going to wait and see before buying into their hype.

[Darkspade]

Thats what she said

[bunfighterii]

I never played Oblivion, but being a huge fan of Fallout 3, I'm starting to get very interested in this game.

[Firstkn1ghT]

In all my years of gaming, I have encountered numerous games with multiple discs and never had a problem before and it still doesn't. :) Every game that did come with multiple discs would always need just a couple of swaps in the entire length of the game. Not a problem.

This right here is my GOTY, regardless how many discs it comes with.

[father33]

That's what she said.

[Ch1d0r1]

Too big and boring... fuck elder scrolls.
Demon's Souls/Dark Soul's for life!

[Ascalon94]

dude elder scrolls is the tits, don't hate on that series. Demon Souls is good as well, but ES is where its at

[Ascalon94]

if this is not multiple disks I might go 360, idk for sure yet.

[MasterD919]

I don't think gamers could ever have a world "too big" to explore. That leaves plenty of room for a replay or two, exploration, new experiences, etc...

As long as the world is thoroughly thought through, used to the fullest extent and instituted in a way originally imagined, it shouldn't be an issue.

[No_Pantaloons]

Too Big = Buggy

I know they say it with a grin, like they're bragging about it, but the larger it is the more variables to account for.

Games like fallout 3 have many glitches on release because there's so many varied paths and one might break the operation of another. Some complain, but its a fact of games getting increasingly larger,that a few dozen testers will never find all the bugs.
I loved that game, and I'm sure skyrim will be great too, but I hope they know how much they're realistically able to chew, would be a shame if we had to wait for patches to fix an otherwise great game.

[HacSawJimThugin]

Man...some of the people who comment on these articles are just stupid. Instead of talking about how much fun this game is going to be and appreciating the sheer size of the game , they rather argue about multiple disc changes and other bullshit that has yet to be confirmed by the devs...LAME!! I can wait to explore the huge space that will be given to us and kick some dragon ass....PEACE!!

[Rom828]

I don't care what anyone writes - GIVE MY SKYRIM! More info, more game play, more Howard/Hines interviews - MORE, MORE, MORE!!!

I don't care about disc swapping, which system can cure global warming - just give me more SKYRIM!!!

[led1090]

And with the PC modding community, and from what they did to oblivion, you can add another "too" in that sentence

[iNFAMOUZ1]

first off I agree with the first post, and second nothing is too big, its just more badass like that