European hardware charts for the week ending 21st October, ps3 outsells x360 2:1

Weekly Total
DS 171,260 17,454,212
Wii 70,322 3,594,122
PS3 64,087 1,758,644
PS2 57,152 43,208,915
PSP 54,449 8,589,452
x360 37,303 3,791,899
GBA 2,286 19,536,528

Ps3 outsold x360 almost 2:1 last week in Europe. It would be interesting to see ps3's european sales this week when PES 2008 ps3 bundle hits the scene on 26th October ,2007 . x360 was outsold by all consoles in the market except GBA

[power of Green]

Is the price drop spike wearing off already? I don't remember what the sales were last week but it seems like key markets are already looking like they're evening out.

Don't take this to the bank though I think I'm wrong.

EDIT:

You and your ho-hum opinions.

* PS3 week ending 14th October: Total = 74,746...
* 360 week ending 14th October: Total = 42,244...

* PS3 Week Ending 21st October: Total = 64,087...
* 360 Week Ending 21st October: Total - 37,303...

The PS3's sales are dropping faster or by a bigger number vs the 360 with the god dam price drop when it shouldn't be. The PS3 sales should be increasing, its understandable for the 360 sales to drop due to PS3's price drop and with only so many people willing to pay the price of console costing $300 to $400 USD the PS3 could be facing the same issue with the first Price drop .

Games and bundles will change everything for both companies so this pointess BS is moot.

[nasim]

PES 2008 ps3 bundle would be unleashed next week . a slight decrease in ps3 sales was due to the fact that 60 gig has been sold out in most stores of UK and EU including HMV UK , Amazon UK,GERMANY ,FRANCe.

Halo 3 bundle had 0 effect in EU . resistance, motorstorm and Heavenly sword murdered halo 3 in EU .

Halo 3 bundle was offered all over EU ever since the price cut of ps3.

RESULT :_ HALO FLOP ravaged by RESISTANCE.

nothing is left for x360 . ORANGE BOX flopped all over EU . You wont find a single chart where ORANGE BOX topped the list.

expect total carnage by PS3 next week .

console war is finished in EU . japan and na remain

:)

[Jandre02]

PES2008, then the games library will be full of games like Assassins Creed, COD4, Ratchet/Uncharted. When Europeans have a choice they choose anything thats not American.

Is there really a PES bundle coming? If thats true then I dont see the how the Xbox can overcome that, even with Halo 3/Mass Effect.

PES Bundle Europe
Ratchet/Spiderman Bundle US
Lair(?) Bundle Japan (lol.)

[AnalFace]

Power Of Red

Be scared

Cheers

[jackfatal]

am sorry xbots fans!! its not the fun time is over!! u had ur September!
by the way i like the way u said "When Europeans have a choice they choose anything thats not American." its some how true not just in europe but every where else in the world!!
japan is better then USA in almost everything accept weapons of mass destruction and real movies!

[dazreah]

Nasim you are a fool the of course you won't see the orange box in the eu charts yet its been out for 3 days! Wait till friday when the software charts are updated. You are the biggest fangirl here.

[ruibing]

Not that I trust vgchart, this is hopeful news for all PS3 fans and potential buyers.

[DeckUKold]

bubbles 4 that true true comment

[ATLRoAcH]

And it begins.End comment.

[gerrard]

i clicked dissagree by accident it's ment to be agree, anyway heres a bubble from me.

[neogeo]

DS and Wii also beat 360. losing steam?
Nintendo is rich

[Bebedora]

We europeans (most of) choose quality over crap. Americans can do some quality products too. xb360 is not one of them. And some really just don't like the US for some reason.

[andy001]

You can't really count the number drops as indicators for comparison, as with a near 2:1 difference the PS3 would always look bad.

Indeed, if you check out the percentage drops you can see that the PS3 dropped 14% and the 360 12%. Given a reasonable level of error in the VGC figures I think we can assume it is a seasonal or weekly pattern.

We shall see over the next few weeks I guess

[Bleem360]

Nasim,

Can I quote you please? You may remember this, but let me give you a reminder anyway. This is what you said when VGChart said 360 outsold PS3

" 1.1 - for sure BIG BANG announcement will have big effect
However i dont trust VGCHARTS.
none of us does"

Then you go and create a post using data from VGCharts?

You see, this is the problem with blind fanboyism. In general, fanboys do actually help the gaming industry. They buy the latest games and tech then will happily tell all their mates to buy the same.

But, some fanboys can have the opposite affect. They make their console manufacturer look as silly as they do what with all the name calling (XBOT?) and mildly ammusing stats.

Which one are you Nasim?

[power of Green]

VGC in the states have been giving the 360 numbers that are not enough or proven to be too low vs numbers too high for the PS3. I wonder how accurate the over sea's VGC is?.

[resistance100]

how do you explain the fact that VG charts often show less ps3 units sold than actually is.

Still VG charts shouldn't be used as actual sales any week, only as a vague guideline of sales at best

[gerrard]

Oh so you dissagree with what VGcharts says? Not so long ago you were using it as fact when Halo 3 sold 3m with x360 when its suits you. Come on make up your mind.

[power of Green]

Nevermind Not enough difference to care really the 360 dropped a little over 5 thousand and the PS3 dropped around 10 thousand. Still not good for PS3 with the drop should be much more.

[TheExecutive]

Well, in the end Europe has always belonged to the PS brand... the ps3 will be no different, its gonna take time and more games but it will come.

[sticky doja]

"always belonged to the PS brand" Have you ever heard of Nintendo?

[TheExecutive]

Yes I have, and I also know that every ps brand that has ever been out outsold Ninetendo consistently within those generations... whats your point?

[Rooftrellen]

Did you also know that in the year 2000 every Nintendo console, home or handheld really took control of the market?

Going by the logic of what happened before must keep going, your logic never happened.

It did, but if we're using your logic...

[TheExecutive]

it was just to point out that the brand is very strong in europe, i am not saying that things dont change. I just dont see it changing this gen.

[Kuest]

that, yes, VG does tend to overestimate PS3 sales and underestimate 360 sales. Still, this should serve as a warning to MS (if hasn't already) that they NEED to increase their marketing over-seas.

Establishing a foothold in America is a good start. Hell, a great start- but they need to amass better world sales in order to compete GLOBALLY.

[power of Green]

What should MSFT do?, release more Soccer games?.

I sense a touch of bias and a hint of anti yank pressense from the overseas market not alot but the proof is in the news, XBL and on this site.

{{{Force}}} ((((NO BEEF))))

They always use the PS consoles as an all in one device so they don't have to buy alot of stuff(you know because the PS3 beats the 360 in games?).

[TheHater]

Dude I think you got it twisted. It has been proven that VGchartz.com actually inflate xbox360 sales, while decreasing the ps3 sales. And if you think I am wrong, you should do some research and see for ourself.

[MJY2K]

Personally I think it's Sony that should increase marketing in Europe. I live in the UK and the last advert I've seen for PS3 was the 'This is Living' in the hotel and that was months and months ago. And the only game advert I've seen is for Heavenly Sword, and that's hardly ever on.

Comparing that to Microsoft, you see an advert relating to the 360 every other day

[SpenserTracy]

The switch from ps2 to ps3 has begun for real. Check in about a month from now and be amazed.

[MJY2K]

Not really, PS2 sales are still high, it even out sold the 360

[Spike47]

brand only belongs to america?

talk about turning the tables on the 360.

I'm still not sure about how much this will last, but it's good that the ps3 is doing great and soon mgs4 will hit to boos the ps3 sales even more.

[TheMART]

Suddenly we're forgetting those 9 to 10 months the 360 outsold the PS3 in Europe? I can remember some weeks ago the 360 outsold the PS3 in UK, with 27k 360 units sold and 7k PS3's sold and Europe total 20 to 25k more then the PS3.

The 360 will get its price cut probably before Christmas, so we'll see what the weekly and monthly sales will do in Europe.

[eagle21]

I just want to hear the reason? pro evolution=playstation if you ask me. Bu..Bu.But..Metacritic......re member? Sony was smart to introduce this new model now.

[Jandre02]

"BUT WAIIIIT WE WERE WINNING!!!" Just like how the rest of this console war will turn out, you win when consoles are selling crappy. THe Xbox360 sells more because people didnt want to get an HD console yet, but the Xbox had games so impulsive people bought it.

As sales pick up the PS3 will start to sell 500,000 to 600,000 a month. IF the xbox cant do that, then it will lose. I mean, Halo 3 is bundled with the XBOX!!! What more can they do, other than cut off a good $100.
The PS3 is just too close in price for the Xbox now.

Im excited to see the US sales. It should be close.

[outlawauron]

That the PS3 has only been out in Europe a little under 7 months?

[Dannagar]

Even with twice the sales, do you realize how long it's going to take for PS3 to catch Xbox 360 in Europe. Xbox 360 is still more than 2 million system ahead. However, (in Europe) Playstation 3 has almost matched the amount of Units sold in the United States and that's fantastic for Sony of Europe.

[SmokeyMcBear]

do you realize that the ps3 hasnt even had ONE CHRISTMAS in europe?

[Premonition]

Hey power of the green stop posting, you make yourself look bad everytime theres good PS3 news, all it shows is that your feelings get hurt whenever theres good news for the PS3, just not even read it and move along its not that hard you know.

EDIT: like me? go to my posting history I stay away from 360 news mostly because im not immature like most people on this site that have to post their 2cents when its not needed, it seems your one of them as well since you want to talk to me.

[dazreah]

And many others do the same when there is good news for the 360! Edit:Ok i take the like you back my bad and no i don't bash other consoles like most people around here.

[jackfatal]

ha ha ha ha!!
ur console is loosing against a console that has no games!! ha ha ha hah a hah aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

[Chris_GTR1]

LOL! thats gotta suck for all the dumbasses that bought it. they got mega fukd

[PopEmUp]

Christ_GTr1 get real if you be a dirtbag is because you're a dirtbag, so just say it out loud. I am a dirtbag. Once more time now

I AM A D.I.R.T.B.A.G!!!

[Spike47]

you can't trust any kind of media.

but I think VG is accurate on this one, what did you expect the ps3 to lead by only a few thousands.

this is a mass price drop for sony, 400 for a ps3 is unheard of.

[Kuest]

now MS must find a way to counter Sony's surge in price via their OWN price cut, or a better bundle package.

Even tough, the total amount of 360 units sold FAR outstrips the total PS3 units sold, MS must be careful... because even at this rate, MS is set to loose its footing by 09. That is, if they fail to act.

[ActionBastard]

"the total amount of 360 units sold FAR outstrips the total PS3 units sold"

Isn't FAR a little bit of an exaggeration? To not even be 1yr old and sold a little under half the 360, that says a lot. MS kinda blew its load a little early releasing Halo 3 in September.

[Spike47]

do you guys really think it's impossible for the ps3 to catch up?

I mean, Sony is known for making a nice comeback with the ps1.

it's not impossible.

[doomsonyman]

the 360 is nothing compared to the great sony ps3 like nasim said expect the ps3 to out sell the 360 4 to 1 next week. with this new price cut were more then back in the game, were owning it

and power of green if the number of disagrees is a reflection of what people think of you then maybe you should just be quiet

[toughNAME]

" like nasim said "

..that one explains itself

"with this new price cut were more then back in the game, were owning it "

do you work for sony? or own shares of sonys stock?

shut it fanb!tch

[razer]

2 weeks of beating the 360 and still millions difference in install base and you are already saying that Sony is owning!!

Man, gotta love that Sony fanboy arrogance!! Wake-Up cheerleader, reality is calling...

[MJY2K]

The PS3 has only been out since the end of March 07 here, and to be a lot closer to the 360 then in the US is rather good don't you think?

[snoop_dizzle]

i thought nasim said numerous times he didn't trust vg charts. Or is that only when it doesn't fit his agenda?

maybe I'm just delusional or something, but i swear he has said vg charts was not to be trusted.

i don't have a problem with vg charts, heck anyone that tracks console sales becasue i don't care much about it, but i just found that kinda strange.

but yeah, good for the ps3.

[Kuest]

everyone should know that nasim is a fanboy... so, it shouldn't be too suprising that he's also a hypocrite as well.

The fact still remains, however, that this is not a postive outlook for MS ANY way you cut it. They have to react, or risk only being dominant in one region.

[snoop_dizzle]

its most definetly not positive for msoft, that struck me funny. I always remember any other time someone else posted something with the 360 in the lead, nasim would have a fit.

[dfcm2003]

Nice to see Ps3 selling well, Maybe a sign of change..... Wow just imagine if Sony screwed its ps2 owners, like xbox did the xbox 1 owners, it would of been 64+57= 121k units. We all have to remember that MS made its market, closing down the Xbox 1, So their numbers can not really be judged with the PS3.

[Dhani]

X BOX 360 WILL REMAIN AND AND PS3AND WII WILL GO TO HELL!

[dazreah]

What a well thought out post welldone! NOT.

[Nuch Vader]

Ok, The Xbox 360 has 3.79 million units sold in Europe. PS3 has 1.76 million units sold. If Playstation 3 were to continue to sell at it's current rate, how long would it take before PS3 match the Xbox 360's 3.79 million units?

[Kuest]

a LONG time, but still... Does MS really want to risk it?

[MJY2K]

The 360 has been out since 2nd of December 2005 and the PS3 has been out since March. Now to sell close to 2 million units in a little over 7 months is pretty good

[ElementX]

VGchartz isn't accurate. Remember the numbers from the similar site (vgcharts) and the NPD? There were 10,000+ differences

[ironwolf]

IF (big if there) the PS3 and 360 continue to sell at that rate (which Nasim an others seem to think is wonderful) it will take the PS3 something over 6 years to catch up with the 360's sales. By then, who cares?

[dfcm2003]

Even though I am a PS3 owner, I do have to agree, that it will take some time for the PS3 to catch up. With that said, I do wonder if the sales of the 360 are mostly the old xbox owners? If so, the xbox really didn't sell that well, and this could be a problem in the future, or maybe not. But if the sales are of mostly xbox 1 owners, then the sales should start to drop off in the near future, and when Sony in a couple of years does close down the Ps2, then you will see the PS3 explode. IMO

[snoop_dizzle]

its good for a console to sell, but some people make it a freaking religion.

but then again thats a typical fanboy

[Jandre02]

IT would catch the PS2 in over 18 years. Sales for any console right now doesnt even matter. Realistically the PS3 can catch and pass the XBOX360 next year, but all consoles are selling slowly, except the Wii.

When more ppl have HDTV's, or one console averages 20million a year, then you can say a console is a success or failure.

[ActionBastard]

It would take it (roughly) 31 weeks selling 64k a week just to make up the 2 million console difference. While sales would be increasing for the 360 as well (37k per week for 31 weeks), the PS3 would be caught up in 62 weeks. A little over a 1yr isn't that long.

[Clinton514]

It's funny seeing *certain* people running into defense mode over Vgchartz. Hypocrites.

[whateva]

the fight for last gen keeps going who will win?

[dazreah]

Think it might be hard to tell till the very end.

[XxZxX]

do anybody know where Vgchartz pull their european number from? Thin air doesn't count, man.

[testerg35]

Now nasim likes vgchartz? If the numbers are true, that's great, but nasim is such a fanboy its not even funny.

[dazreah]

While im not a fan of the ps3 better sales are a good thing for the whole industry. To many fanboys and girls who wish to see there console destroy all others need to see that if any company pulls out it will be a bad for gaming.

[doomsonyman]

you people sound so retarded saying that it would take the ps3 years to catch up to the 360 if it continues to sell like this on a weekly basis on my couculations it would only take 1 year

[ironwolf]

we're both wrong. It would take about a year and a half. With no changes that is.

[BlazinEurasian]

VGCHARTZ is the bane of N4G.com b/c people use the numbers as facts.

[Xi]

A price drop will sell consoles.... If this didn't happen sony would have reason to worry.

[Jandre02]

It nearly tied the Wii. Price drops sell consoles ONLY if there is demand for the console. Obviously there is demand for the PS3.

Also, since PES comes out soon the sales will probably rise again next week

[Bladestar]

I think this is a nice improvement over previous weeks... for the PS3 though nothing to call victory and the death of the xbox 360... it would take 2 years for the PS3 to catchup to the xbox 360 selling at 2:1. I'm almost sure that this will force microsoft to react with a price drop... just like the last time when Sony dropped the price microsoft waited a few weeks to the what Sony impact would have in the market and the drop the price accordingly... and only a $50 price drop did the trick and put the xbox 360 on top... I hope sony's price drop does enough damage to force microsoft to drop the price by $100... hehe.. just wishing... (hey! you can't blame me.. for wanting to pay $299 for a PS3 by the time Metal Gear comes out!)

[Bowzabub]

Bladestar... i have been reading your posts and i have to say you are a PS3 owner in the making. You know you want to buy 1 now.. Dude, be smart about it and get a 60 gig while you still can. Obviously you have been a gamer for a long time and deep down you know where this is headed. I myself have nothing wrong with the X-Box, but i see all of this negative defect rates and that is a major turn-off. I agree with you 100% that MS produces great games for their console, but at what expense?

[DZNetworks]

I would hate to be playing games on a PAL system tv.

[ApocalypseShadow]

but if true,it shows that sony still has staying power in europe.

price was the only issue 360 had against ps3.X-tremists that said there were no games on ps3,need to wake up and stop making excuses.

you said there were no games when resistance came out.
you said there were no games when motorstorm came out.
you said there were no games when vf5 came out.
you said there were no games when lair came out.
you said there were no games when heavenly sword came out.
you said there were no games when warhawk came out.
you said there were no games when folklore came out.
you said there were no games when ps3 got better versions of games like FNR3 and oblivion.
you said there were no games when multiplatform games came out at the same time.
and your demented minds will still think ps3 has no games when ratchet,eye of judgement,hot shots golf,uncharted,etc. come out.

price was the only issue.and now that's over.european gamers have another high def choice now.and it means they don't have to get 360 only IF THEY HAVE A CHOICE.and X-tremists love to throw that word "choice" when it's against ps3 and about 360.

gamers like "the mart",and i use the word "gamer" loosely,say microsoft will just drop it another $50 dollars before christmas time.

HOW IS MICROSOFT TO MAKE ANY MONEY THIS GENERATION IF YOU WANT THEM TO KEEP DROPPING THE PRICE UNDER WHAT IT COSTS TO MAKE 360?

does "NEGATIVE" 7 billion dollars for the xbox entertainment division mean anything to you?

does dropping xbox and losing all that potential money before it was time for it to go mean anything to you?

does adding a 3 year warranty(a first in gaming history) to a system that has the potential to break,and having to fix it for 1.15 billion dollars mean anything to you?

does losing bizzare and bioware to other companies mean anything to you?

does having nintendo catch up in half the time mean anything to you?

doe selling 10 million consoles the first year,then barely 2-3 million in its second year mean anything to you?

and don't say microsoft has a cheaper core system when for all this time,no one really wanted it.

now it's put up or shut up for microsoft.because microsoft is going to have to go up against sony big guns next year.at even footing.

mag lev..............

[Snukadaman]

Please explain with all your wisdom...I have asked plenty of people on this website but i never get a return response...with no game as we speak at a million seller in north america yet there are more then 2 million ps3's...resistance and motorstrom have been given away in bundles yet no one is still buying them...please explain...or just ignore this question like the many other sony fanboys that dont want too speak on reality...even ps3 owners think there are no games with their wallets.

[DJ]

There's no data showing total amount of software sold per console for each month, let alone week. I think you may be confused with the term "Attach Rate". Attach Rates are fluid, and their size depends more on the adoption rate of hardware rather than the amount of software sold.

Lower attach rate early on in a console's life is actually a good thing since it shows a faster adoption rate; a high attach rate shows stagnation in hardware sales. The PS2 for instance has a ridiculously low attach rate for its age, but that's because there are so many new PS2 owners that end up offsetting those who've had the system for 3~7 years.

[Snukadaman]

I say if people like Kotaku and other sites use it why not...just because it shows that people who own ps3's are not purchasing games. Lets be honest here...if the numbers showed people were buying games for the ps3 im sure vgchartz will suddenly become recognized as being the place with "real" numbers. im tired of posting those numbers but everyone on here knows the real deal so why bother. Imagine if the numbers were different im sure nasim would throw them numbers up quicker then he can make up ps3 sales in europe out of his azz.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Numbers, again.

While interesting and all, does it REALLY matter to *gamers* who sells what? What difference does it make?
Oh, and you have got to love that same old question...."how long will it take the PS3 to catch up to the Wii / 360?". Who gives a fvck? What exactly is going to change in that magical day when it does catch up?

[TheDynamo]

Let me first give props to the Sony Fanboys and the European sales over the last couple of weeks. Pretty good. Not stellar, but pretty good. Although at this rate, it would take more than 2+ years to catch the XBOX360.

But look closely at the numbers.

There's a 15% DECREASE from last week. That's not good.

Shouldn't there be an increase in business? How do the numbers go backwards when the price drop has been in effect for more than a couple weeks now?

And the margin is only 30,000 or so. That means they would only beat the XBOX360 by 120,000 units for a full month. They got whipped by more than 300,000 in US alone last month.

I'm not trying to steal your thunder, I'm just saying that a decrease in sales over the last couple of weeks is a bad sign.

Smells like a slowdown in momentum.

You'd better hope that Microsoft doesn't institute that rumored 2nd price drop.

That would be death for the PS3.

And even if Microsoft didn't, they will still pull even with the PS3 without it.

Just watch next week. The margin will be even smaller.

[gtgcoolkid]

That will help the PS3 alot more than the 360. Not to mention the PES/PS3 bundle which will sell like hot cakes. Overall I doubt PS3 will fall below 360 ever especially since this is the first holiday the PS3 is having. Remember its only been 5 months or so since the European release.

[gamesR4fun]

meh ms could give them away and still the ps3 will come out on top just because it is the superior system.

[Relin]

There's a slowdown in hardware sales because, at least in America, the pricedrops have been announced but have yet to take full effect. It's the deep breath before the plunge, to quote a wiser man than myself, and it happened just before Halo was released as well.

[stonedog]

but it does not mean anything unless it is a sustained trend. Certainly with the price drop you expect a jump in sales but the numbers that really count are the total x-mas numbers; not one or two weeks which are aberations from the general trend.

Compestition is always good for the consumer as it keeps business honest

[doomsonyman]

mag-lev shadow bubble for you finally someone speaks the truth

[miguel54]

people that say the ps3 will take along time to overthrow the xbox360 are retards.for two reasons the xbox has been out for awhile now and theps3 barely came and since it alredy killed the 360 in europe how long do you really think it will take my calulations 08.second is that video games sell consoles[halo]and when killzone 2and haze and unchartedand mgs4 come out you will see whose the big boss.consider who ever said it wuld take longer they just been pwnd

[skynidas]

PS3!!!

[Snukadaman]

now if it was 10-1...thats a story. This is just tit for tat.

[ActionBastard]

But the 360 is cheaper and has Halo 3. Should it matter?

[DEADEND]

Why are some people so bias come on both consoles did very well, it's just that this time around the PS3 out sold the 360. And everyone know the 360 out sold the PS3 at one point last month so what's the big deal. And to POG you need to fkn grow up, it's not like MS is paying you to be a fanboy for them so jump off man and get a life.

"VGC in the states have been giving the 360 numbers that are not enough or proven to be too low vs numbers too high for the PS3. I wonder how accurate the over sea's VGC is?."

Wow what the hell is that man, it can work both way because I know if it was some PS3 fanboy that said the same thing but just the other way around you would just say they are talking BS just like how your doing right now.

[Chris_GTR1]

just wait for the US sales to be released. 360 will outsell ps3 in world wide sells.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Will your world make sense again?
Poor widdle kiddie.

[Jandre02]

The PS3's 80gb has been selling well, and it just received a price drop in Japan as well.

[ParaDise_LosT]

Price drop in less than a year...
Is this truly a wise move?....

[Baba1906]

no we are going to die now..... of course it is. at least for the buyer.

[Maddens Raiders]

The PlayStation brand is the strongest and most robust in Europe and this brand of console has *always done well in EU and Japan, no question this decade will be the same.

The real question; however, is how does the Power of RroD and theMart-in have 5 bubbl3s? Now that's news that inquiring minds want to know. 8D

[DEADEND]

Lol I've been trying to figure that out for a while now, but you know what I think we all are trying real hard to change that.

[Bowzabub]

Bubble to you

[celticlonewolf]

What I mean by that is the non fanboys on here are looking at it from a middle standpoint and see that although the ps3 price cut has come in to effect the actual sales have decreased(I remember lots of people saying how these numbers would be far better than last times cause the price cut would be in effect longer). On the other hand sony sales have passed the 360 which means it is selling better and that should please the sony fans. The question is will ms see this increase enough of a effect to put in a price cut with a bundle(like japan) or do they see there bundle by it self being enough to subdue this increase. What ever happens doesnt change the games I be getting myself and my son christmas time tell me what you guys think
Transformers
cod4
mass effect
Ratchet and clank
assasins creed(maybe)
simpsons lol
Uncharted
can you tell which ones are going to be my sons and which ones mein lol.Good gaming

[ApocalypseShadow]

you limit your thinking based off of american sales.i live in america.but america DOES NOT represent the WHOLE WORLD.

motorstorm sold over a million.
resistance sold over 2 million.
and that's without bundles.

and now that the price has dropped in europe,those same games are back to climbing the charts.and selling well "with bundles."

you limit your thinking when it's about WORLDWIDE sales for games and consoles.microsoft sells 360s well in america.but does average in europe.and poorly in japan.they haven't even sold 500,000 in japan after 2 years.how do they expect to hit 100 million when the sales are lopsided?selling at least 500,000 units per game means you broke even with development of 30 million dollars.any sales over that is gravy on the mashed potatoes.right now sony is offering motorstorm and resstance as bundle games because:THEY ALREADY MADE THEIR MONEY BACK.

i don't represent all ps3 fans,but i bought over ten games.but at most,when you purchase a system of ps3's previous price,you would see an attachment rate of 1-3 games.every system i bought in the past,i bought at least 2 games.

atari-pitfall,night driver,adventure
nes-super mario,double dribble,mike tyson's punchout
snes-street fighter 2,super metroid,contra 3
genesis-golden axe,altered beast,super monaco
turbo graphics cd-valis1,valis 2,cosmic fantasy2
saturn-virtua fighter,daytona
ps1-resident evil,tekken2
ps2-ridge racer 5,tekken tag
dreamcast-soul calibur,nba 2k,nfl 2k,hydro thunder,etc(i bought 8)
gamecube-resident evil,beach spikers,viewtiful joe
xbox-doa3,ninja gaiden
DS-super mario,sprung(it was funny),rub it(also funny)
psp-lumines,ridge racer
ps3-genji2,RR7,nba 2k7

but you get the idea.most gamers buy at least 1-3 games when they get a new system like i did.ps3 is no different.even when it was $600.360 gamers say they have more games,but i'd bet most don't have more than 15 games in their own collection.and no one buys THE ENTIRE SELECTION of games available for a given system.

so ps3 sitting at 2 per console for its price is exactly where its supposed to be.and that will continue for as long as gamers buy more ps3s.the 360's high attach rate means THE SAME GAMERS are buying and it's not matching new system buyers.the attach rate should actually go down or be lower at its current price.those games should have spread across the 10 million.

sony is doing fine and will do fine.

mag lev...................

[Bowzabub]

I believe PS3 will do good for the remainder of this year..but they are going on a fiscal year schedule...i believe the main surge of PS3 sales will be in '08 during income tax season. Hmmmm? Now that would be nice to coincide with the releases of all the clean-up hitters. (you know the names). I look for PS3 to close '07 with about 9 million, and the fiscal year (march '08) with 16 million. Don't call it a comeback...

[Snukadaman]

I also live in america so i think its relavant. Many websites use vgchartz as a barometer too peoples purchasing of games since those numbers put together are usually what NPD comes up with each month. While I belive they are not the true number of games sold, im sure they are quite close. You do also agree that japan have not embraced "next gen" as in ps3 and xbox 360. Most are buying wii and ds's. Even in japan mediacrate collects numbers of games sold and the last time a ps3 game was in the top ten was lair.in fact here are the numbers for it...notice the first ps3 game on the list is lair at 7th with 22k.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/ch...

Europe is a different beast all together. They dont give true numbers....only whats in the top ten....in fact here are those charts for you...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/sa...

so you see...vgchartz are alot better since they give you a "ballpark" figure of what is being sold. Face it..no one is buying ps3 games my friend.

[Maddens Raiders]

....yep.

Gaming Rocks. Especially on a PlayStation. :P j/k!lol

[Bowzabub]

Damn, Maddens i think you can hang with me on the games section.. I always wondered.. X-Box owners always say how many games they have.. I'd like to see just how many games they actually have. Honestly i have seen 3... maybe 4 worth having. But that is just my opinion and we know how much those are worth in here. Myself, I have 16 PS3 games, about 10 PSN games, and about 80 PS2 games. i only have 3 PSP games as i just got it for b-day on 9-28. I don't think i could find that many games to play on X-Box if my life depended on it.. but i'm always open to rebuttals.

[Snukadaman]

27 xbox 360 games...
13 xbox live games...
24 psp games...
6 wii games...
6 vc games on wii...
16 games for ds...

I dont like selling my games too gamestop....they are full of crap. Oh add ace combat and castelvania too the list this week.

[razer]

Nice job Sony. It's funny how 2 weeks prior the numbers were the opposite with the 360 outselling PS3 2:1

Will be interesting to see after the PES bundle. Now if the 360 stays as this same amount or lower for the next year and the PS3 stays at this number or higher they might actually close the gap between the two.

[Antiomo]

The price drop will ride until early next year, and then it will start "dying" but guess what the SUPER ps3 franchise will come out and from there viral marketing will have positive impact on the ps3.

Sorry xbot's but this is exactly what happend to the ps1, ps2, and soon to be ps3.

If you look at the current life cycle of the ps3 you can see there is no REAL big drops in sales around the world, it is just a upward slope. NOt fast enough for the short minded xbot, but enough to scare them and bash every little aspect of the playstation.

Lets see how long xbox will last with it's halo...

Ps3 on the other hand has two things helping the system, slow intoduction of games coupled with hi def movies. Though expensive for many young individuals, most gamers are actually between 30-40 in age... Meaning there is alot of disposable income to pay for the ps3 and their media.

[TheExodus]

90 percent of gamers between the ages of 30-40 are married with children & will be lucky if they can scrape together enough coin to get a Wii for Christmas. The remaining 10 percent does have a sizable chunk of disposable income, but we're more likely to be spending it on fast cars, designer clothes, Apple products & 20-something go-go boys than any game console.

[Antiomo]

A greater potential fanbase......

I keep hearing ppl saying the ps3 has so much potential but it costs alot.

While on the flipside you have the xbox, ppl want it cuz it has alot of games..... but I hear many individuals complain about the reliablity problem. Even if ms FIXED the issue with the RROD, at a marketing perspective it is much harder to remove this negative point than sony's negative point.

The price argument is slowly becoming moot on the ps3 side.... have a fun ride MS in 2008-2009... I can smell an xbox 3 coming up soon

[ALMIGHTYPS3]

PLAY~B3YOND or GET LEFT BEHIND

[Wii60PS3DSPSP]

I see that the Wii+DS is still dominating everywhere. Such a great combo those two are for Nintendo.

[season007]

because 95% of the Wii owner won't even browse a gamer site like this.....

[Wii60PS3DSPSP]

Har har har... Though you may be right. I mean what Wii owner in thier right mind would want to read news like this? What gives... An article that said the Ps3 is outselling the 360 yet the Wii is outselling them both? Now that's just wrong.

[Mr Marbles]

Can you guys really be this stupid, do you realize this is only two weeks and all the previous weeks the 360 was outselling the PS3 between 2 and 3 to 1. Not to mention this is only the second week and the sales are already falling faster than the 360s. HELLO morons, this is not the time to gloat, just be happy your console of choice sold a few more than usual and move on, leave the 360 out of this.

[TheExodus]

PS3 isn't even finding sustainable sales at $399. Looks like the best Sony can hope for is to match 360 sales, but 360 can hold developer attention with a smaller install base because it's attach rate is unbelievable. PS3 doesn't have an attach rate worth bragging about unless you're pitching to a Hollywood exec. By mid-November PS3 will selling like it was prior to the price cut & developers will begin canceling those delayed games, if they haven't already.

[SmokeyMcBear]

ah man.. all this.. and it has never seen a christmas in europe.. interesting.

[WilliamRLBaker]

lol last I checked 360 had still sold more then ps3 in europe *total sales*

and how is this a related story?
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anyone notice how nasim posts only sales numberS? or pro ps3 articles? and all ways has PR spin in them?

[So1id]

People need to stop complaining about VGChartz, and comment more on the actual topic.
Look up the facts, they are consistently within 10%(Usually lower)of NPD's data, they're definitely reliable to a certain degree.

With that said, the numbers are pretty good for PS3 fans. The sales stay elevated, and the PES'08 bundle will move a LOT of consoles. We'll see if the 40GB can have a lasting effect over there, and what titles do well.

[PimpHandHappy]

they have a 15months lead....thanks for proving ur a jackazz

[Wii60PS3DSPSP]

You mean you didn't know that he is a ps3 troll who post nothing but 360 hate all the time?

Your right about the total sales. Sony needs 2,033,255 more while Nintendo needs only 197,777 more to really beat the 360 sales. That is if this stuff from VGCharts is right...

[Pika-pie]

LOL Xbots are going nuts over these figures. Nasim has put them in a bad mood for the rest of the day.. Bubble for him :)

Im not buying a 360 until they drop the price of the elite to £240 and bundle Halo.

[Gordii]

1. Yes halo is pretty good although it never moved me....
2. Horrible Customer Service..
3. Scared of the ring of death.
4. Can't play a game for more then 4hrs without it overheating? this is not gaming......
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Reason why i will always buy a Sony product.
1. I had a problem with my ps2 and they lowered the price to charge me to fix it they also gave me a game with it aswell.
2. I had one since 1997 (PSX) and i still have it till this day.
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Finally its good there is more then 2 comp. Always brings out the best in gaming companies and those who do not wish to change for the consumer find themselves in the dust just ask Sega?!?... (Low blow yes) I loved Sonic but its the truth over all i rather play my Nes lol over a sega game... Ps3 will be better now they are getting more games.(Note to everyone PSX and PS2 were also slow on releasing games the first year)... and i am sure Microsoft with fix their issues aswell. so maybe in the future i might pick one up when my fears ease up on that system.
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Ps as for gaming wars people say they just started.... lol your full of it they started back in 1985....

[djevolve]

I own a xbox 360 elite and play on oblivion for hours. usually I play anywhere from 5 to 10 hours at a time. so the comment about it over heating is not true. I got to xbox's and the premium has been fine but I also picked up an elite which has the felcon chip so it changes the over heating issue.

[djevolve]

I own a xbox 360 elite and play on oblivion for hours. usually I play anywhere from 5 to 10 hours at a time. so the comment about it over heating is not true. I had a premium but when the elite came out I just took it back and traded it for a elite for in store credit, whick I got for 50 more bucks with new felcon chip as well the upgraded chip to stop from overheating I never however had a problem with my premium.

[leon76]

I hate to repeat this, but: I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!! x360 is completly falling in Europe!!!! do not invent stupid excuses... And I remember to you, again: Wait for the PS3+PES2008 bundle!!!! it will be the end of x360!!!

[djevolve]

look at the total sales the xbox 360 is above wii genius. so one week doesn't make up the whole month and xbox already droped sales in japan what do you think there going to stop from dropping in europe or united states.

[djevolve]

thats why ps3 dropped it's prices because it was seeing the end.

[DeZimatoR]

Seriously, how?

The 360 was outsold by the PS3, the PS2 AND the PSP.

I mean, whats more to say than that? Nintendo and Sony dominated the charts this week, and thats it.

STFU and suck it up, or ignore it. No don't come with BS like 'oh the PS3 sold less 10k units but the 360 sold only less 5k!!!' So what? The PS3 still outsold it 2:1, not to speak about the PS2 (how old is that console anyways) and the PSP (an handleheld).

And LMFAO at the 'Europe is bias towards US products' excuse. I mean, wtf?! So what if it is? I'm bias against a 400$ defective product. Am I that wrong? Just look at Nintendo and Sony. They make good, reliable products and they sell well in Euorpe.

Maybe M$ need to change their strategy here in Europe, because they certainly don't won't have an 'Halo 3' coming out every month ;)

[Nod]

the UK is arguably the 3rd most important market outside the US and Japan.... the PS3's price has been slashed yet

PS3 = 15,251
360 = 14,679

thats got to be worrying for Sony

[HarryEtTubMan]

don't worry the games are coming

[Says you]

crappy console that cant even work for one sec! so I doubt it will ever catchup to the PS2 and plus in 18 years there going to lose more money on their system cause after all those 18 years they've had they still couldn't fix that problem today! and of course at this rate the more they drop the price on there own console how are they gonna make money if they keep dropping the price.