200°

PES 2012 - Debut Trailer

Konami announced PES 2012 with the first Trailer and Gameplay Footage. Get a first look of the latest iteration of KONAMI's real soccer simulation. Shingo "Seabass" Takatsuka , Creative Producer of the Pro Evolution Soccer series, talks about new gameplay features and reveals first footage of PES 2012.

Read Full Story >>
playfront.de
BrunoM4734d ago

And here we go again ...

In my way of viewing it is like these.

at the moment I live in Toronto but I'm originally for Portugal what tear can tell u is up til about 10 years ago I only play pes and no one can argue that pes up till 2007 was not the best soccer aim out there but in the past few years they lost what made pes so good and fun ..

Thru that in looks EAs FIFA takes it but is nit just that is the online a game now adays like it or not needs good online and pes does not offer that .. And the most important is the way the match fells when u play it unlike FIFA it does not have that big match and close finishes felling ..

Well il keep my eyes open for PES but I think these will be just another year were i will be facing lol damn kids online in FIFA that run at the 89 min when losing ... ( they need to do something about that Hahah )

Major_kenny4734d ago

I'm from Portugal too and here PES (pés xD) is considered better than FIFA. I mean, PES is BETTER than FIFA. Americans love to rate/review a game they don't play or enjoy so they screw up. In europe where football is played the most, you see PES getting great reviews and FIFA gets a 80% average, while PES gets 90% average. Americans don't play football, they have to rate the graphics, the licenses and the official crap. That's just ignorance. You don't see Europe reviewing rugby or american football games cause we don't play it. Ignorance isn't an excuse

BrunoM4734d ago

I see what u mean I'm 25 right now and I live in a nacao que e a cidade do Porto lol ... Up to my 15 years an ya pes is king in Europe and in some sence ur right the big reviews come from right here now north America ..

And even tho your right it applies to all games and even tho we like it or not FIFA has catch up to pes in many ways ok the master league is still the pest out of the two games but the motions the movement the natural way FIFA moves is leaps ahead of that of pes even tho I'd like to be the other way around ..

In all they need a new players engine they need a new online ..

Then maybe pes will become again the football sim it was ..

kataloni104734d ago

i think pes is better then fifa in every way .. the only thing fifa got is linces club ... pes 2011 Master League online is the best

nix4734d ago

the only football game i like. PES2011 was awesome. placing those passes were the best thing. 2012 is gonna be even better. can't wait.

OcelotRigz4734d ago

As huge PES fan that has stuck by it thru these last few years, where they have produced lackluster games, games that had the right idea but just didn't execute it right, well.. this video doesnt give me hope. It looks identical to 2011.
He is talking about where he is making improvements yet never mentioned improving the terrible shooting, refereeing, players like Tony Hibbert catching the likes of Theo Walcott, the ridiculous "stumble" etc... all these easily fixable things that prevented 2011 from being a great game.

On another note, its only May...

BrunoM4734d ago

I agree with you that's what I was trying to show .. Well unlike u after pes 2007 I move on it's just that pes never really role that jump to the next gen is not the the master league is not good it is it's damn great and that's why I got pes11 I just wanted to give it a shot but it just dosent do it for me any more

Not just master league can over come the way it's stupid easy to score the goalies some times are as if they ain't in the net at all the way they all run and more is the same u can't make quaresma run and play like Torres ... Even when pulling skill moves the motion of the players is so stiff next to fifas movements ..

And from looking at the video right now even tho is a good change the marking of the attack and defense the game looks the same and is kinda bad for a franchise I love so much ... The online look and fell of pes also needs an ovarol Cus is leaps behind fifas ( even tho the master league is good can't over come the gap that's there )

Well hope they get a new engine for pes and make does damn Goldie good and well let's see what the out come is in a few months time ..

OcelotRigz4734d ago

I know what you mean. Except when PES started to go bad i still couldn't play FIFA, its boring and repetitive, it has no randomness like PES and the game has huge flaws that nobody seems to mention such as the world class goalies and defenders on EVERY team, whether you're Barca or Barnet. Also the fact that the game plays like rugby sometimes.

I also agree that players movement in PES seems so wooden, changing direction can be such a hassle sometimes. Also the close control is poor and needs improving too.

I still have faith in PES because they have the right idea of how a football game should be played, they're just having a hard time executing that vision.

BrunoM4734d ago

True your right they do have the right idea .. And I think what they are trying to do for pes12 is great thing is they take a step ford and looks like ther in rye same place thaw only due to tge part that they need an ovaraoul in the player engine is to stiff just to stiff that is the one thing it takes me away from pes and te goalies ...

Me moving to pes even tho the stupid lil kids online fuk all up is that the continent I live in north America and all my friends that do play football play FIFA so there is my why to move ...

But ya hoping for more good things from pes we will see it more info in the coming months and ya ( lol plus pes got the champions and uefa league )

lareka4734d ago

Good additions to the game. I started playing Fifa since Fifa 96 until 2006 where I switched to PES 2 then I switched back to Fifa in 2010 with Fifa 10. For the last couple of years I prefer Fifa to Pes.

About the video :

Off-ball movement is a good addition, it opens up the play and let players win with team-work other than individual skills more often and easier.

Show all comments (15)
40°

PES 2013 Wii vs PES 2012 Wii – The shocking truth

Nintendo Gamer - You may remember when a month or so ago we received a copy of FIFA 13 on the Wii and quickly realised it was absolute identical to FIFA 12, save for a roster update.

At the time we slammed EA for this, calling it “a £30 roster update” and telling them they should have been ashamed of themselves. After all, they were pulling the wool over Wii owners’ eyes and masquerading FIFA 13 as a new game when in reality it wasn’t.

Read Full Story >>
nintendo-gamer.net
90°

'There are way too many cheaters online'

CVG - I'm having real problem's with online multiplayer recently. There are way too many cheaters online now and it's completely ruining any competitive matches.

Having not touched PES since the PS2 days I bought PES 2012. I played a few matches online and it was going well, so thought I'd enter a tournament. The first couple of games ended in draws. Then on my third or fourth game I was winning 3-0 and I was chuffed. Then my opponent kicked off and hoofed it straight to his keeper, turned around, scored an O.G. I thought it was weird, but then he did it again and again. Game over, match abandoned.

Read Full Story >>
computerandvideogames.com
jidery4240d ago

Re-title the article too "there are way too many cheaters in life"

doogiebear4240d ago

Yeah when a game has exploits or is easily hackable, and when people can use things like lag switches, etc...then Yes, gamer's cheat too much.

Look at Metal Gear Online--the best online game ever made: It was ruined by DDOS attacks, Lag Switching, Animation lag exploits, people lagging their net on purpose, etc. It's membership went from 1 million registered users, all the way down to 3000 world wide. That's how bad cheating can mess up a game.

DiLeCtioN4240d ago

There are far too many websites I guess...

soundslike4240d ago

Compared to 10 years ago...no theres really not that many.

OhMyGandhi4240d ago

No game has more cheaters than Halo 2.
Why people want to spoil the fun for such an awesome game I do not know.

caseh4240d ago

Meh, thats Konami for you. Metal Gear Online had an amazing community then the infamous lag switch appeared on the scene.

Completely ruined the official tournaments and survival modes, got to a point where there was one in every other game. What did Konami do to address it? Nothing. :)

Sketchy_Galore4240d ago

I've never understood it. I mean, I don't even see what they get out of it. It's like unpacking a board game, placing your piece on the square that says 'win' and just sitting there looking at it. It doesn't even upset me that they ruin competitive games for everyone so much as it just depresses me that there are people that utterly stupid in the World.

caseh4240d ago

They are just there to piss on other players bonfires.

I admittedly done a wall hack with Counter Strike years back on the PC to see what it was like. Then it hit me, I was looking at someone through a wall...he was looking straight back at me. Hacks can see other hacks and after seeing how many people were looking at me through walls I quit the game for good. Had my fun for a few hours first mind. :)

Show all comments (12)
70°

Sole Survivor of the Great Football Migration – Pro Evo to FIFA

Liam Pritchard of Brash Games writes "So, I’m the only one left. Perhaps not in the world, but certainly out of my friends. Back in the days of the PS2, everybody, and I mean everybody I knew played Pro Evo. There were no stragglers and nobody succumb to the temptation of EA’s extensive licensing. Nope, back then, we all prayed exclusively at the house of Shingo “Seabass” Takatsuka".

Read Full Story >>
brashgames.co.uk
OcelotRigz4247d ago (Edited 4247d ago )

Nice article.
The "Great Migration" is so relatable to me and i expect a lot of the old PES guys too.

Infact, i actually single-handily introduced PES to my town, i used to play PES non-stop. But the difference was i had all the option-files, so i had no problem with dodgy team names or kits. My friends tried pes but because of the lack of licences and no knowledge of an option-file, they just thought pes was a stupid, cheap looking game.
Slowly but surely, after friends played a few games at my house, they started buying the game themselves and playing with friends at their house. Next thing i know the whole town is addicted to pes, "up for a game of pez" was a common question around the town.

(I tried the same thing with battlefield 3, but people wouldn't budge from cod, except for one friend)

Like this article says though, come into this generation and slowly but surely all my friends converted to the dark side while i stuck by, slightly frustrated, with my beloved pes. But unlike the author, i went to the dark side last year when i bought FIFA and for the first time ever, didnt buy pes.

I appreciate the authors dedication to the charms pes still offers, but for me the flaws are too much. Its like a few diamonds in a barrel of oil. Whereas FIFA is like a barrel of oil packed with glitter. Its doesn't compare to the old PES's and still lacks that "charm" and addictiveness pes used to have, but it has so many good things going for it that its hard to resist.

Hopefully pes will make a return next generation.

asmith23064247d ago

I'm guessing you haven't played the PES 13 demo? It feels like its back to the golden age during the PS2 era. I used to play PES religiously until I migrated to FIFA 10. This year its back to PES for me. I really hope the online is solid though.

Kopite_20204247d ago

Exactly the same as me. Having played both the PES and FIFA demo I am returning back to pro evo after a long time (still getting FIFA, but only just!). Love the added control PES gives you with the flicks and traps.

OcelotRigz4247d ago (Edited 4247d ago )

I have played the demo. It would make no sense not to. I love the pes series and would love for it to return to those glory days, where i spent countless hours, but it hasn't and i dont think it will until next gen because the devs cant get to grips with this generation.
I must of said this in a ton of PES articles on here and i'll say it again, when you read interviews with the pes devs and when you play the game, you can see what they are trying to do. They have the right idea of how a footie game should be played, but they just cant execute them right.
This year is no different, what they are trying is great, the intricate little things you practice in the tutorial, it should add another dimension to the gameplay but it doesnt because its still badly executed, players still feel wooden, running on rails, the animations are really poor, still no pace, the ball doesnt seem to move right when shooting and passing.

I know a lot of it comes down to personal preference, if a guy likes this years pes you cant say he is wrong, only disagree and if a guy tells me its back to its golden age then i completely disagree, this years game and this generations games are nothing close to the PES4/5/6 games.

I will agree there is a huge improvement in this years version, but its still a poor game in my opinion. I'm glad people are liking and it feels like the glory days to them, i would love to be in their position, but im not, i see it differently and i really feel like PES didnt turn up, and wont, this gen. But i hope they do next gen. Because FIFA, as much time i spent on it and with all its gloss and glamour, it just cant seem to give that magic that pes used to.