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Gizmodo Vs Kotaku: Why Isn’t Microsoft Beating Sony With Its Own Failure?

Gizmodo: Sony’s PlayStation Network has already been down for almost four weeks already, to the frustration of gameras around the globe. But why hasn’t Microsoft taken advantage of the ill-will currently targeted at the Japanese giant? I debate this very issue with Mark “McLeod” Serrels from Kotaku…

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iamnsuperman4752d ago

Well Microsoft can't be cocky because the hackers could turn on them. I think what Microsoft is doing is right. Free weekend is good and this is a subtle way of making people come onto Live. The can't openly bad mouth PSN because they are opening themselves for egocentric hackers to hack them. Microsoft knows there security is better but its not perfect and doesn't want to be in the same position as Sony. Doing it subtle is cleaver and a great advertising tool without becoming a target

Rhythmattic4752d ago

Oh dear.. Short term memory ay?

How about Kokatu/Gizmodo VS N4G

http://news.techworld.com/s...

iamnsuperman4752d ago

That was so annoying and an inconvenience

GrieverSoul4752d ago

@iamnsuperman
I agree with you! Sony are the target now and MicroSoft always left the hackers alone even when they attacked LIVE in 2007. If they mock Sony, then the attention might shift and MicroSoft can be targeted.

Microsoft gained my respect by not mocking or for clearly and blantantly taking advantange from this PSN downtime.

green4751d ago

@GrieverSoul

Who attacked and when was XBL attacked in 2007?

Active Reload4751d ago

If you REALLY offer the better service, there isn't any need to kick a dog when it's down.

X2theG4751d ago

I thought you would have linked to this: http://n4g.com/news/755533/...

and this: http://n4g.com/news/756456/...

MS did offer a sweet deal (thats still going on!) for gamers. Some were able to capitalize on it!!

SuperLupe4751d ago

Live never got attacked. At xmas 2007 some people were having problems logging in because of a major afflux of new Live members. Lets just say the service had a traffic jam.

It wasnt even CLOSE to what is happening with PSN right now.

But to make Sony look better Sony fanboys on this site have LITERALLY MADE UP a so called Live hacker attack once upon a time in 2007. They are simply re-writing History for the love of Sony.

GrieverSoul4751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

@ all above

No one is making rumors about LIVE being hacked. I saw a post here where a guy had a link to an article related to LIVE being offline for 2 days. In that period some people speculated hackers were behind it.

Still, if it was true, then more Kudos to MicroSoft for solving those issues in just 2 days. Sony has been 20+ days offline and no specific date to when it will be on. 31st is the date on every game site but some Sony representives have dismissed that saying that 31st is the date when ALL of SONY´s services will be back.

Fanboys roam free here! Everyone can say what they want here. You like Xbox? Good for you! You like PS3? good for you too! But the fact that LIVE is online right now doesnt hide the fact that if it went down, then the situation would be much worse since you pay for it.

Edit: About some PMs I got, just one thing:
Live is online and PSN isnt! You win ok? Still, dont make like its the best service in the world. jtag consoles were able to play in LIVE for a long time. At least Sony was able to get rid of hacked consoles to ever going online.

Dread4751d ago

@griversoul

you forgot the tiny fact that personal data was stolen from the PSN users.
The situation is much worse. And that alleged 2007 mythological hacker attack that all the sony fanboys are screaming about was a simple disruption of service that only affected some xbox live users. They are two very different things.

AAACE54751d ago

MS are probably worried about making sure an attack of that magnitude doesn't hit XBL! And more importantly getting ready for E3 and working on the next Xbox.

kneon4751d ago

@GrieverSoul

Individual live accounts have been hacked numerous times, including Major Nelson if I recall. But it's not on the same scale as the PSN hack.

Fixing PSN shouldn't have taken more than a few days, a week tops with the forensic investigating slowing things down. But Sony aren't just applying a few patches, they said they are moving the whole data center to a new physical location and probably re-architecting and re-writing things along the way.

So there is no telling how long it could take. But with the network down I hope their programmers are taking advantage of this golden opportunity. Often you run into limitations in the changes you can make to a live network. With everything down and no users online they can change anything they want.

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Peppino74751d ago

I'm 100% sure that at E3 they will make some sort of jab at how xbox live is the reliable online experience. That's a good strategy to capitalize on this situation,especially when EVERYONE is watching.

Wobbuffet4751d ago

Yeah probably, also i didn't click the article, i won't give kotaku/Gizmondo hits.

Some of the biggest troll journalists this side of destructoid!

pixelsword4751d ago

@ peppino;

Not if Sony beats them to the punch; and if they're smart, they will...

BubbleSniper4751d ago

Microsoft is about to spend over Eight Billion Dollars for Skype.

They are a little busy at the moment.

SixShotCop4751d ago

The things i could do with eight billion dollars. A year vacation on a beach would be my first expense.

r1sh124751d ago

@superman...
Its true, I think as a business they could have jumped on the bandwagon at taking shots at Sony, but ethically speaking Sony didnt mention the RROD them selves.
So its probably got more to do with ethics a level of respect for the competition,
even if a short term promo deal is created it will only be a short term surge in sales. Just allow the media and public opinion do the decision making.
They dont need to go on a public offensive, just carry on and make improvements to their own system.

cochise3134751d ago

Yeah i think you're right. If MS did that, that would really be a lack of class. I don't think they would stoop that low. I believe they have a common respect for each other.

kikizoo4751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

Gizmodo and kotaku, lol, the xbots brothers associated :)

and an other here : "Sony are on their knees right now, why not put the boot in?

FINISH THEM! lol"

Lol, someone is forgetting consoles, hardware sold, and most of all : exclusives (and graphics, and best motion controler, etc) just because the psn is down for 2 weeks....desperate/denial ?

supremacy4751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

The thing is ms can try and kick Sony while they are down now.

But come e3 you better believe Sony's message will be how much better and secured their FREE network is.

Aside from that they also have a slew of exclusives of which they've yet to reveal and the floor coverage to back it.

Regardless of the situation it wouldn't be wise for MS to start talking about something they are probably negleting to do, such as, offer a premiun service for free.

I am sure one gets what they pay for, but i am also sure that if any company goes through what Sony is going through. They will too try to entice costumers and offer what others are paying for at a competitive price point or no cost.
So...again you coupled that with the said line up and as a gamer you find yourself back on the ropes with Sony.

Lets not forget Sony has other toys to display at the show such as the ngp and such.

As far as the rest of the e3 stories are concerned i am sure they will be focused Nintendo and their new platform.

Elsewhere...
Japan despite this still favors Sony and so does a good chunk of the grandturismo loving nation that is Europe.

I say go ahead take a shot, make Sony wake up and track your every move and mimic your offers for less. Because when a product is down, thats what happens.

I say if you play with fire chances are you'll get burn.

FamilyGuy4751d ago

3 weeks, today = "almost 4 weeks"?

iDotDotDot4751d ago

That's what I said.

They always blow things out of proportion to get a buzz

Solidus187-SCMilk4751d ago

that actually has nothing to so with PSN going down.

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Alos884751d ago

Because they're above that... at least, I hope so.

awiseman4751d ago

I wonder wuy you have disagrees, wow this site annoys me sometimes. Its as if the sony fanboys WANT MS TO GLOAT so they can troll about it. Sad

Mister_G4751d ago

They're checking their system security and once happy they'll start been more vocal.

Droid Control4751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

M$ should have gone for the knockout blow. Sony are on their knees right now, why not put the boot in?

FINISH THEM! lol

I doubt M$ are worried about hackers. XBOX LIVE is a closed and far more secure network that the frankly amateurish PSN was.

I pitty the fool who would waste his time trying to hack the king of online networks.

KonaBro4751d ago

for your blatant and obvious trolling. Please go to bed and let the adults talk, ok sport?

Karooo4751d ago

pathetic how can a gamer even think about that.

Due to being an open network psn got steam.

macky3014751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

LOL! xbots are delirious and plain retarded.

Only one MS is knocking out is them selves, since they have less and less quality software on their system every year.

Senden4751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

I love this site.. just because this person is an xbox owner and you disagree with his point then that makes him a troll.

Microsoft probably sympathize somewhat and kicking a company while it's down due to semi malicious hackers might be a line even they won't cross. However I doubt they fear the hackers.. Microsoft are probably far more security concious than Sony were and I think only an idiot would dare try to hack the big Ms network it in theory should be like trying to hack a government computer in the sense that while not impossible, you'd be far more likely to get caught.

dragon824751d ago

No, he is a troll because he is a troll. It has nothign to do with the other people on this site.

M-A-R-S-H-A-L-L4751d ago

If you want kiddie games and one corporation ruling the gaming industry, good for you. Most of us live in a reality where COMPETITION IS GOOD.

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Kran4751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

In a sense, MS and Sony aren't enemies by choice.

When they try to avoid conflict, that's what they do, which is great. For now, yes a free weekend was great for XBL (even though they always do free weekends when a CoD DLC comes out...) as it gives those who own both consoles who are waiting for PSN to come back up to use XBL, which is one reason why owning both consoles is a great idea and would recommend it. Forget what anybody else might say, whether they be a 360 fanboy or PS3 fanboy. Being an inbetweener is the way to go. There'll barely be a time when both XBL and the PSN will screw up at the exact same time.

AceofStaves4751d ago

They're not enemies at all. MS operating systems come pre-installed on Sony laptops, for example. Despite the raging hatred against the 'enemy camp' that some gamers have, the companies themselves sometimes work together and sometimes compete against each other.

It's just business to them - and to those of us who aren't emotionally invested in the so-called 'console battle.'

krazykombatant4751d ago (Edited 4751d ago )

well said, you gain bubbles. Which by looking at yours you might need some.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk774h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 20h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 12h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 10h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 9h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 14h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 9h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 4h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 18h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 11h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 8h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 11h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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