Rockstar Made L.A. Noire So Big, They Could Barely Fit It On One Disc (or Three)

You can't judge a video game by the number of discs it ships on&emdash;not unless you're prepared to declare the four-disc Lost Odyssey as the best Xbox 360 game of all time. You can, however, judge the intent of the developer to give you a whole lot for your dollar.

[Kran]

Might have to get the PS3 version then.

3 discs is just ewww.

I aint dissing the 360. I just think that having 3 discs isnt a good thing. You dont exactly swap discs when watching a film now do you (well... some movies did it...)

[units]

people really worried about disc swapping? seems like a silly thing to worry about

[fossilfern]

Its something you did on the PS1! we have moved on since then!

[xPhearR3dx]

Why would they need to delete content to fit it on 3 disc? They said from the start the knew it was going to be a massive game and take up 3 Xbox discs. There would be no need to cut content, if your already sitting on 3 discs, adding a 4th one isn't going to hurt.

EDIT: Discs cost money? Were talking DVDs here, they're so cheap the hobo on the corner can afford them.

Where are you getting a console drags another because of it's inferiority? Have you not seen L.A Noire? All they have shown is PS3 footage and the game looks beautiful, not to mention the facial animations are mind blowing. The PS3 version is the last thing you need to worry about when it comes to L.A Noire. Rockstar knows how to handle their games.

[kharma45]

Hopefully R* will let you install all the discs to the HDD to give those buying it on 360 as seamless an experience as those who buy it on PS3 would get.

[Winter47th]

Uh, yeah it's going to hurt. Discs cost money, more discs = less money.

[kharma45]

DVD's are dirt cheap now though, the cost is probably equal to (or even less) than one Blu-ray.

[Winter47th]

DL-DVDs are not dirt cheap, 1 DL-DVD costs 3.5$.

Not to mention they need to pay Microsoft $$ for every single extra disc like MisterAV mentioned.

[MisterAV]

it's a big city, don't you mind to change disc when you change district?

@kharma45: microsoft add extra royalties when you need multiple discs so even less money...

[BattleAxe]

If you've got the choice, get it on one disc. If you don't, then that kinda sucks. I'll probably wait for this game to get released on PC sometime in the future.

[DigitalRaptor]

Disc changing isn't such a problem, but for a game like this, where you're exploring a HUGE map.. hmmm I dunno. I'm jut glad I'm getting the version that comes on a single disc, and with extra content. It's probably the visually superior version too.

I mean according to 360 owners, they get the superior versions of multiplatform games 95% of the time, so I guess that would be a welcome change. Not that I would notice those sorts of things anyway, I mean who does?

@ artynerd

You know full well that with a game like this, disc swapping will become a pain. Maybe not on games like Mass Effect where changing the disc is less regular. You will most likely find yourself changing discs regularly on L.A. Noire.

And MGS4 and Heavy Rain don't take those lengths of time to install. Regardless of that fact, once they're done, they're done (for the most part). And you don't even need to update all PS3 titles, unless you're going online. Differences in load times for most games are negligible. Stop exaggerrating everything.

And I presume it's the PS3 system updates you're talking about? I agree, they're slow at downloading for some weird reason. You can download them MUCH quicker from your PC, and put them on a USB drive and copy them over to your PS3 manually. Take literally 60-70% less time by that method. That's what I do. I've got the link to the 'PS3UPDAT.PUP' bookmarked, so it saves time.

[Christopher]

***EDIT: Discs cost money? Were talking DVDs here, they're so cheap the hobo on the corner can afford them. ***

Hey, xPhearR3dx, just wanted to address the part above.

You're not so much paying for the cost of the item so much as the security software and licensing rights to play the game on the 360. I'm not 100% sure how much more of a cost it is, but licensing fees on the 360 are noted to be higher than the PS3 and having more discs has been commented upon by previous developers (including the developers of Rage) as not being cost effective.

R* in the past claimed in a quarterly report to have made a larger profit on their PS3 sales of GTA4 even though they sold more on the 360 due to licensing fees.

Edit: It should be noted that the PS3 licensing fees are likely much lower due to the fact that Sony also gets money for BD sales in general.

[b_one]

and PS3 will have some extra content , some exclusive story...

[kharma45]

$3.50 for a DL DVD?!

I can get them here for around 39p a go at retail, I'd imagine wholesale prices will be even lower again!

[RIPSKATEDESTROY]

@DigitalRaptor ''You will most likely find yourself changing discs regularly on L.A. Noire.'' if you read the article before commenting you would know that "Since the game is built around the concept of progressing through individual cases from desk to desk, players on Xbox will find disc-swapping is hassle-free. In fact, players will only need to swap discs twice at natural breaks between cases without interrupting the flow of the game."

[Commander_TK]

Should've still been exclusive. Imagine how much bigger it would have been.

[-Alpha]

@Commander

Exclusive to PC you mean, right? ;)

Disc changing is not a big deal. They already stated that it's at "natural" points in the game.

It's a minor annoyance, the DVD may not store as much but at this point its read faster, hence why mandatory installs aren't mandatory on an Xbox (correct me if I'm wrong)

As for DVD's withholding content, if it's free and already on the Blu Ray then it seems the content truly was cut because of DVD limits.

If they charge on PSN, then it seems more likely that developers are lying about extra content to charge in the form of DLC

[TOO PAWNED]

PS3 version also has exclusive content.

[Pixelated_Army]

this is one of the main reasons why I don't want to buy a 360 right now.

3 discs...3!!! -_-

[Lifendz]

Disc swapping isn't like going to the dentist, but it is an irritant. Given a choice between enjoying a seamless and immersive experience or having to break the tension by swapping discs, I'll chose the former every time.

Rockstar already voiced their gripes about lack of space on dvds. I wonder if this will impact exclusivity of the next GTA...hmmmm

[wsoutlaw87]

Microsoft issues a fee for any amount of discs over 2 too discourage devs from doing it.

[Dark_king]

@Alpha-Male22 actually the 360 dvd drive pretty much almost ties the PS3 BD drive.BD drives read at a constant Speed anywhere on the disc as well as other layers.While dvd drives read data fastest on the outer rim of the first layer.If you actually look up the speed data you will see they come out about even now.

[kancerkid]

You swap discs twice, which means over the course of the entire game, you put three discs into your system.

This is a BIG deal.

Edit @ people who hope they can install two discs:
It takes longer to install discs than it does to swap them.

[madara0sama]

@kharma45 They won't let you install the disc unto the HD. If they did that people would just rent/borrow the game and install it.

[AngryTypingGuy]

I couldn't care less about the disc swapping. For me, it's the fact that the PS3 version has exclusive content that I will be getting that version, that and the fact that I believe it was originally developed on the PS3.

I'm not biased...I know I'll probably have to swap discs for Mass Effect 3 next year, but I have to carry over my game saves, which are on the 360!

[DigitalRaptor]

Even with that considered, it still makes no difference. It might be a highly story-driven game, but it's still an open world experience. Team Bondi have created a highly detailed 1940's Los Angeles that is worth exploring.

I'm sure lots of people will want to drive around seamlessly and explore the whole map between cases/missions, like is possible in GTA, Red Dead etc. If you want to go on ultimate free roam mode, you will have to deal with disc swapping on many occasions.

I guess it's a wait-and-see kind of approach for the 360 version, since we haven't even seen any gameplay footage for that, but it's clear that if you have both consoles, the PS3 version 'should' be the one to get since it seems to be superior in ways that matter enough.

[mastiffchild]

Well I think the disc swapping issue is relevant but not for the reason most often stated. I've had several game discs scratched(360 games)to the point they became useless and outside of the console itself I've had kids and dogues break discs (BR and DVD)so, for me, more discs just means more risk of not being able to finish or(even if I want and am able to install the discs straight to HDD as I'm hoping LANoire is capable of doing and if not, why not? As I'll not keep games installed forever)replay/sell it at a later date.

Sure, it's a bit crappy to HAVE to change discs in this day and age but it's not a BIG dewal and to me the pure increased percentage risk of breaking or scratching a disc(which even my newest, though not slim, 360 Elite has done from time to time)is the realm issue, isn't it? Well, naturally my kids and dogues are mental so i notice risks like this more than most but you see my point. If you can install and be VERY careful with your games then changing it once or twice is no issue worth talking about beyond being less desirable than not having to do it but, as i've said, I've lost a good few discs and especially easily on DL DVD 360 games this gen.

So still not a huge issue with an install but an issue none the less. Just a small one unless your home has my menagerie living in it.

The discs become a proper problem when a developer comes out and states that the cost of royalties means they are cutting back the size of a game/it's world as a result on ALL platforms even those not needing extra discs or those which could have DD or not have ludicrous royalties even WITH extra discs as it has with Rage being cut down(wasn't it by a third or something?). Even then it's RARE story and an unclear one when devs and publishers like to blame anyone for them HAVING to charge us all fdor DLC. "We couldn't fit it on the disc!" -like Capcom but iot still meant DLC down the line on ALL platforms. As a current gen gamner you don't know who to trust!Even with iD and Carmack: he's been so unbearably NICE about PS3, 360 AND PC as platforms that I dunno whether even he's on the level over everything. IS everything just so lovely and equal in his world that if a disc issue crops up here another daft issue pops up there to even it all out and make every platform amazingly the same in terms of pros and cons?

IDK, but the world of multiple discs isn't just a case of whether you can be arsed changing them or opting for just the one instead-it's a murky hinterland of platform holder and devs wrangling for our cash without us ever quite knowing the truth of the matter. Sony are VERY invested in BR as they own a slice of the tech, MS are the ones making 360 game devs pay extra over two discs on 360 yet have different rules on PC where, I'm guessing, Steam makes a big difference in keeping disc based game prices reasonable. Who's being straight with us and who's making the sneakiest buck all round we will never know.

[Darkfocus]

I have a stack of 100 DL-DVD that I bought for $20 your being ripped off dude...

[Dee_91]

wow
i cant wait

[NoOoB101]

@artynerd.. ur wrong about the 360 reading data faster than the ps3. Yes the 360 has a 12x drive and ps3 only 2x, BUT the 2x for blu ray is faster than 12x for dvd at reading data.

http://www.psu.com/forums/t...

[saladthieves]

If you own both consoles, then simply go for the PS3 version. I have a buddy who bought final fantasy 13 for Xbox and now disc 3 is broken. He can't progress through the game.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Disc swapping on an open world game....lol. What did I freaking tell you? It was only a matter of time before this wall was hit.

[NukaCola]

You guys are ragging on Winter,

but the truth is more discs cost more. The Disck itself is cheap but there are fees for multiple discs. Final Fantasy XIII was supposed to be on 4 discs but do to MS's high fees for the 4th DVD, they had to cut out content and reduce the size to fit on 3 discs. 2 DVDs are the only way long games work on Xbox, where the fees for multiple storage isn't a big burden.

As for me, I am getting this on PS3, like all my multiplats. However I have only seen PS3 footage since this was an exclusive once, and am confident that the PS3 version will be equal or greater to the 360 version in quality, and have extra content, the single bluray disc and such. Oh and hopefully the PS3 version, having the entire game on one disc, won't have side missions locking or unlocking with the pace of the 360's disc swapping. I am sorry that it needs 3 DVDs, but I don't think it's fair to disrupt the game to play out like your still swapping when you don't have to with bluray.

But all in all, I am glad to see that this is a huge game. I love games that are worth their weight in gold. And this type of game, being on 3 DVDs nontheless, tells me that there won't be any hinderance to the quality of the 360 version, and it should be just as awesome, since 3 DVDs most likely means there is no compression. I think this game has like 10 hours of cutscenes or something. MASSIVE!

[Marquis_de_Sade]

I can't quite believe what I'm reading here, it takes what, all of of 20 seconds to get up and change a disc? Over the course of a 25 hour + game that doesn't strike me as much of an inconvenience, how do you lot cope when you want to play a different game?

I'm a PS3 only owner currently, but I would prefer a quick disc swap to sitting through the numerous 10-15 minute mandatory installs forced upon us by many developers.

[Lightsaber]

got to love how fucking lazy ps3 fanboys I'm surprise they can put down a twinkie long enough to do anything much less get up and walk over to swap a disc

[Rageanitus]

Its not a matter of worrying it its about convenience.

Think about all the live music cd's out there... it would be more convenient to play the whole concert on 1 disc.

[NoBias]

The time 360 owners spend swapping discs for this game, won't come close to 1/8th the time PS3 owners spend installing this game.

[gaffyh]

PS3 version it is then, I was considering getting it for 360, but a single player and intense game like this, it will probably be better to have it uninterrupted.

[Kleptic]

@alpha_male...

The PS3's BD drive has a fixed read speed, while the 360's is variable...at times the 360's read speed is higher, but at other times it is lower...it depends on the physical location of specific data on the disc...

but either way, that doesn't usually matter...the Ps3 has mandatory installs in situations where the developers are not using one of the spu's for back ground streaming...Notice some of the best looking and running titles on the PS3 require no install whatsoever...

but ceterus parabis, access and read times of a physical HDD are MUCH higher than any optical media format...its a cheap work around that developers have available because every PS3 has some sort of HDD...that is why mandatory installs are in so many PS3 games...its faster and cheaper to optimize that way...

The 360 on the other hand could ALSO benefit from mandatory installs, but developers do not have that option as not all 360's had a standard HDD...Its not that the 360's DVD drive is so much faster than the PS3's BD drive that it would never need a mandatory install...its just that 360 games have to be built from the ground up without that option, as its not always there...

An example of why how this applies to games similar to this was the delay of GTAIV...where Rockstar claimed the lack of an HDD on the 360 was just as much of a hurdle as the PS3's complex architecture...and seeing the pop-in the 360 version had, its clear a mandatory install would have helped just as much as it did the PS3 version...

[ps3destroyer]

Only ps fantrolls are worried for this kind of stuff.

[king dong]

i dont think i can be bothered swapping discs so ps3 version for me..

but, this is just what the sony defenders on here needed after the psn debacle... a good old fashioned excuse for some 360 bashing. lol

sad individuals

[AAACE5]

And here I was thinking this game was going to get ignored... looks like there is much anticipation for it, or people came here to bash dvd based games!

[Misterhbk]

Disc swapping is irritating. Especially with games where certain content is only available on a certain disc and you have to swap back just to access certain items and what not.

[Grenadan]

so is mandatory installing

[ilikestuff]

yea they both suck, i just want to put a disc in and play it, no waiting or swapping. maybe someday

[omi25p]

barb_wire

This isnt ment to be a fanboy comment, but do your really want to start joking about having to pay to play online while the playstation network is down

[The Iron Sheik]

You only need to install once, but you need to swap discs every time you play. Swapping also takes away from the immersion in the game IMO.

[princeofthabay]

@grenadan
a mandatory install is before the gameplay swapping a disc interrupts gameplay so i think the install is better

[DaTruth]

You're making a full time job out of being a fanboy troll!

I'm seeing your bubbles go down in real-time with every comment!

[YodaCracker]

@princeofthabay

"Since the game is built around the concept of progressing through individual cases from desk to desk, players on Xbox will find disc-swapping is hassle-free. In fact, players will only need to swap discs twice at natural breaks between cases without interrupting the flow of the game."

[mastiffchild]

Considering I've spent YEARS installing every game I've ever bought(practically) on PC I've never seen the "PS3 needs mandatory installs! LOL! ROFL!!!" outrage.

Like I said above my 360 has scratched it's own discs and my kids and creatures have wrecked every type of game disc going so even on console, and even on the ones which I haven't put big HDDs in I'd LOVE the option to install EVERY game and do so wherever I can on ANY system. As it'as more prevalent on the 360, therefore, I've probably spent more time waiting for installs on that console than on PS3. A one time install of ten minutes or something is time I can use to do something else while changing a disc ONLY breaks up a game and more discs, as i said, means more risk of breaking one.

Give me the option to install EVERY game I buy and I'd take it. On 360 mainly because DVD isn't as tough as BR disc and on PS3 mainly because the upgrade to performance can be , according to those brighter than myself, pretty big because of quicker read times(on 360 loads may be quicker but the upgrade isn't as great as on PS3 because the natural speed of reading a DVD is faster anyway). Installs are fine with me-been used to them and the advantages they can bring for years.

If a disc/cart/card came along which was infallible in all ways then sure, get rid of the ten mins to install(which has been a lot longer in the past as well!!)but while they improve the performance of disc based games AND it reduces the read times and risk of harm to them then why aren't more games allowing non mandatory installs on PS3(and why don't all on 360?)never mind those WITH mandatory ones?

[Rageanitus]

It depends on the developer..... if its a story game disk swapping occurs on each milestone of the story..... I see it much more of an invconvenience for developers (duplicate assets) over a spread of many discs....

This only support more of the reason to do hard drive installs.... sorry but it is the future.

[omi25p]

Was fine with mass effect 2 and dead space 2. Il be getting this for xbox.

@mystickay86

Think your replyed to wrong person...

[jony_dols]

I installed both Mass Effect 2 & DS2 to my 360's HDD,
and I still found it annoying the way it still asked for the 2nd disk when I reached certain points, even though it was saved onto the HDD.

Mainly because I was in college enjoying playing Dead Space 2, and then halfway through, it asked for the 2nd disk....which unfortunately I had left at home the previous weekend (after I had installed both disks). I had to wait 3 weeks before I could continue on.....

After splashing out $60 for a new game it was a pretty big inconvenience

[omi25p]

jony_dols, Thats unfortunate about dead space, But i know people who have been unable to buy games for the ps3 because when they bought it at launch it came with a small harddrive and now they will have to spend more money on buying a new harddrive just to be able to play games that need an install, download dlc.

What i find funny is that grenada says its just as anouying to install games as it is to switch disks. Then everyone started listing games you dont have to install on ps3, But im willing to bet the list of games you have to install on the ps3 is much larger than games you have to switch disks on xbox.

[Ju]

Why would you get it for the PS3 if you don't have one?

And regarding hdd space. Are we a little slow, aren't we? Smallest hdd is 160g for a while now, most likely everybody else has updated by now. Its not like Sony would put a 4gig flash in.

[YodaCracker]

I was actually glad as hell that the 360 version of Dead Space 2 has two discs when it came to the achievement for completing the game with only 3 saves. The disc swap was a free checkpoint!

[showtimefolks]

but 3 disks is not a bad thing for xbox360 only owners.

on RS's part we should thank them instead of cutting content they actually made 3 disks even though they have to pay for extra disks plus pay MS for each disk.

this game started with sony's millions as a exclusive so its not surprising that this is a huge game

i think they will let you install the disks to pay seamless play

[mastiffchild]

I prefer my PS3(controller as much as anything)but I'm totally with you kin hoping R* are allowing seamless gameplay with installing all the discs. Fair enough, if they need one of the game discs in for the game to run(I don't know why necessarily but for some info which makes switching from one discs cache and back again etc) but I DO find it a bit annoying when a game is installable on 360 or PC yet you then need a change of disc now and then to run the game as it's NOT using and getting the discs out at all(so they don't get wrecked/scratched etc) which is the issue for me.

As I've often said-I don't mind an install on either console and am used to them on PC anyway. It's interesting to see which games need a mandatory install on the PS3 these days when you compare them with some which don't and which seem to outperform their installed counterparts. Makes you wonder about how expensive it is to get a multi working the same on each platform and if the mandatory install is an easy/cheap way out on PS3.

As for the game itslef-I'm not entirely sold on the idea yet. Maybe it's because the period and genre isn't my cup of tea(didn't enjoy either Mafia game because of their similarly earlier 20th century settings for some reason) but also the thought of being a bit old school CSI, then reading chumps mugs(because of the amazing mo-cap used on faces making it possible to read reactions and guage lies from truths etc)and grilling them in interviews with th shooting and the driving etc taking a back seat it all sounds, idk, a bit slow.

Don't get me wrong. My favourite thing in the World is STILL to read so I'm not scared of testing the grey matter butr when I play a game I like it to flow even if it's not a balls to the wall racing or shooting frenzy and from what I've seen of the game I have concerns it could end up a bit too one paced and dull, for some gamers, as a result even if I admit to being very impressed in terms of tech, acting and the gameplay elements themselves seen so far.Will it hang together that well and will it feel exciting enough to keep us all playing is almost as interesting to me as the game itself right now and it will be a while after release before I'll make my decision cos i like to finish every decent game I start(used to be EVERY til last year but, thank God ?i stopped TAT madness)and this will be a BIG time investment for something you don't REALLY love.

Or maybe I'm alone in being worried about it appealing to a lot of gamers and everyone else is certain it's pure gold. I certainly know a lot of people who seem really hyped for it's release to be fair but I'm just not quite sold enough yet despite the clever stuff and apparent quality. Sometimes even amazing ingredients don't make amazing meals, you know? Not sure yet.

[damnyouretall]

sometimes you just have to deal with shit cause it is what it is. so no matter how lazy you are get up and swap discs.

[SephireX]

To hell with three discs. PS3 version ftw!

[Moentjers]

Disc-swapping is soooo nineties !

[SlyFoxC]

lol i was just thinking this!

o the good ol' days...wish i could go back!

[otherZinc]

You guys are hilarious:

What would you rather do:

1. Get up off your fat@ss for 30 SECONDS & change 3 discs; for the running time of 90 SECONDS of inconvenience?

OR

2. Wait 2 hours of install time to install all this crap you need to install for the PS3 version?

See, for the people that dont have a PS3, this is what the PS3 people have to go through, BEFORE THEY PLAY A GAME THIS LARGE!

Now again for the stupid:
360= 90 seconds of down time
PS3= 2 hours of load time

I'll take the 360 version thank you.

*BONOUS:
The 360 dlc will work online, yes you'll be able to use the inter-net to make your game longer on the 360. You'll never know if PSN will work & if you have to pay for the dlc: are you going to trust PSN with your credit card or bank card?

[RevXM]

2 Hours?
Like Killzone 3? God of war 3? Killzone 2?
Many of the best ps3 games have no install.
And Killzone 3 for one LOADS QUITE FAST.

The longest install Ive experienced was about 35 Minutes and it wasnt even mandatory. (GT5)
The longest mandatory got to be MGS4, which takes about 8 minutes plus 2 when jumping beetween chapters. I survived it but its kind of lame.

You sir are hilarious.
What would you do?
1: get your lazy ass up to swap disc's.
or
2: Put it in, no install and just go?

Its not certain that the ps3 version will have a mandatory install or an install at all is it?

Again Id like to remind you Killzone 3 = no install + little loading.

And LA Noire was intended to be Ps3 exclusive so there is a fair chance that its not going to have a mandatory install.

You dont know when PSN will work? WTH?
Yes it is down at this very moment, Because SONY
did it to stop hackers access and rebuild their servers and security.
I give them props for that and their security was pretty good, the con though was they told users to late that their cc info may have been stolen.
They might not even be.

And it is not like XBL never get hacked, because it does. People can steal your account, maybe even your CC info and Microsoft never shut down in a hurry to stop hackers huh?

Google "Stealing XBL account".
Are you going to trust Microsoft?
Ill add one link right here, its an old case but there is more recent ones:

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

[Philaroni]

It cost them more, good example is if it cost lets say 1$ per DVD and they make around 4 million copies of the game for the Xbox alone that means they need 12 million disks. Even if it cost them 25cents it is still a lot of $$. Also more disks means it will weigh more and cost more to ship.

I use Goozex quite a bit and to ship a PS3 game is about $1.90 and an Xbox game is about $2.30, (At USPS) if you don't know, that is part of the reason blu ray and PS3 game cases are smaller is to save $$ on shipping.

So yes it will cost more but I'd not be surprised of maybe MS helps them cover the costs in some ways. Its not a big deal to disk swap for me but it is an issue for Dev's as far as $$ is concerned.

[J_Cob]

@Alpha-Male22 Rockstar said they had to cut some content to fit the game on three discs. So they're releasing it as DLC in the future.

[lil Titan]

And people are still in denial saying PS3 and 360 are on par with each other smh I'm not trying to down 360 but it's Microsoft that made the console that has limitations. They could have used blu-ray or if they used hd DVD it might be still around or even on the front page of my best buy paper but no people remain delusional

[xPhearR3dx]

As long as it's as seamless as Mass Effect 2's disc swapping there shouldn't be a problem. 3 disc though....damn lol Feel like I'm about to buy a Final Fantasy game back in the PS1 days.

[cochise313]

Well at least we know the ps3 version isn't getting gimped due to storage; That's a great thing. Some lazy devs try to keep the game storage down and sell the rest a dlc.

[Istanbull]

I love Blu ray, disc swapping is something from the past. I'm glad Sony funded Blu ray technology

[NYC_Gamer]

wow, 3 disc thats a lot of pause between gameplay.

[xPhearR3dx]

2 swaps in a estimated 20-30 hour game. That's not to bad. Every 10 hours (assuming 30 hours is the length) isn't bad at all. Inconvenience? Yes, but being a Rockstar game, you know the experience will be worth the few extra seconds it takes to swap a disc. That is for 360 users.

[Convas]

I KNEW IT!

Blaze929 man, where you at?!?

This is the part where I tell you I told you I'd tell you so.

2 discs feels like an epic collector's edition. 3 discs ... erg, not sure how I'm feeling on that.

[Convas]

Also, I think you guys are missing something here.

What Barrera is saying is that the disc swapping is for the cases, not for the open world.

Which leads me to believe that the world data was enough to fit on one disc.

As he said, you only have to switch twice, which also means that it's the cases themselves that take up the other two discs.

[Christopher]

Yeah. The world graphics are on each disc, but different case graphics are only on certain discs.

Question is, then, did they have to go with sub-720p graphics to make everything fit onto each disc then (if they did, it's likely the same on both platforms)?

[Convas]

That's what I want to know. Since it's obvious that they didn't want to compress any or at least very little of the game data, does this mean that the differences between the two games will be negligible?

Or drastic like FFXVIII on 360?

So many questions, so little time in which to make an informed purchase decision ... because I'm going to purchase this game. It's something that MUST be in my collection, either in my PS3 shelf or my 360 shelf.

[Otheros00]

FFXVIII... When did FFXVIII come out?

[BullCrap]

Yay for blu-ray. Wonder how big it could have been useing a full 50gig disk.

[cochise313]

The 360 would have had 6 disc then, or had a lot of compression.

[iistuii]

You don't swap it every hour, if it's anything like mass effect 2 I swapped it once after about 15 hours and that was it, took me 30 seconds, yet to install my GT5 took me over 25 mins to install and nobody minded that,so swings & roundabouts.

[Christopher]

Just FYI, you don't need to install GT5. It's optional.

I agree with your assessment of disc swapping being made more annoying than it is.

[Hanif-876]

Its your choice if you want to install GT5 or not. Its not a mandatory install, however, swapping disc is mandatory though lol

[iistuii]

Maybe, but you know it's recommended and without doing it makes the loading times unbearable, but on the topic if the 360 continues to get the slightly better version as like GTA 4 & RDR I'd take a 30 second swap thanks.

[Hanif-876]

The development of L.A Noire is lead on the PS3. Also, i think that Rockstar has learnt their lesson on making the Xbox360 the lead platform because games don't port so well on the PS3. I think its worthwhile to make the PS3 the lead because its beneficial to all of us at the end of the day. Whereas i bought GTA IV that was sub-hd on the PS3 with lack of any form of anti-aliasing. They better do alot better with GTA V because so far GTA IV is my favorite game this generation and i'm hoping that both the PS3 and the Xbox360 get at least a resolution of 1270x720 this time with x2 MSAA or better yet MLAA for the PS3.

[mastiffchild]

iistuii-I don't think the ACT of changing discs is a biggie(see above)but don't you wish ALL PS3 and 360 games offered an install game option? I'd always use it as I always DO when I can now. Shocks me that so few PS3 games(and that not ALL 360 games)offer this as a feature.

[WetN00dle69]

Yeah but still as many have said its not all that much of a hassle to swap disks. OHHH And i agree with you PS3 lead platform statement.

[Grenadan]

least it works and those wondering about disc swapping

the two-disc Mass Effect 2 and want to keep changing discs. Not to worry, Barrera said. "Since the game is built around the concept of progressing through individual cases from desk to desk, players on Xbox will find disc-swapping is hassle-free. In fact, players will only need to swap discs twice at natural breaks between cases without interrupting the flow of the game

[oghost85]

I just cant wait to buy this game.

[Troll_Police]

"And it turns out they made some episodes they didn't have disc space for. "Throughout development, we created lots of great cases, the bulk of which were central to the main story of Cole Phelps and his rise through the ranks of the LAPD, alongside other cases that felt more like strong stand-alone episodes," Barrera said. "This gave us a powerful main story, and left us with quality extra content that we wanted to put out as DLC, that would slot seamlessly into the existing game."

From the horse's mouth, once again content was cut to fit the lowest common denominator. They cut content to squeeze onto 3 DVDs and are going to sell the rest, what should have been on the Blu-Ray, as DLC. Thanks Xbox.

[TheColbertinator]

Yeah DVD needs to go.

[guigsy]

They would've cut it anyway even if it was a PS3 exclusive and sold it as DLC.

[baodeus]

@troll police
So are u saying ps3 doesn't have DLC thanks to Blueray disc space? Get a new name man, "troll police", is that a joke?

I think DLC is just a new way for developer to recoop development costs (games cost a lot more now than before, but the price hasn't really change that much). Think about it.

[-Alpha]

Is that DLC free on PS3? If so, then point taken.

If not, then it sounds like an excuse devs use to charge for extra content.

[SolidStoner]

and that is a very good thing! LA noire is kind a game for me.. must buy!

[ZeroChaos]

Blu-ray disk is finally paying off, now what about the load times...and grass...

[Christopher]

Yeah, Mafia 2 wasn't a very good use of their engine...

I just hope we don't get the same GTA4 engine they used for that without the enhancements we saw in The Ballad of Gay Tony.

[death2smoochie]

Consoles should just have massive HDD or SSD and only use optical media to install the games on like a PC.
You have the physical copy but you don't have to run the game off the blu-ray or DVD or HD-DVD disk etc.
Running games off optical disks as opposed to HDD or even SDD is slow.

[AntiHeroComplex]

"Consoles should just have massive HDD or SSD"

ok. now go to newegg.com and check the prices of SSDs. Feeling stupid yet? A decently (medium sized) SSD can cost you more than the entire damn console ~300$.

Otherwise installing to regular HDDs as you said is probably a very good option. Although still not best as HDDs still leave you with pretty long loading times. And before we can even consider SSds, a lot of time will pass. Dont expect next gen to have it.

[AntiHeroComplex]

MS knows its audience thats why they made xbox as cheap as possible. They cut corners everywhere they could, and put in old tech into the 360 even for its time period. Americans love cheap items - the more the better. They can buy the same thing over and over again, as long as its cheap, doesnt matter if the final cost is more. Its just the kind of logic people use here (and im not even talking about the 360 but it def applies).

If sony wants to gain ground in NA market they need to release a console for 200$ tops next time, even if its in a cardboard box and stores games on cassettes.

they could sell it for 200 "easy" payments of $1.00. (its a 5000% discount and limited offer). Damn people here are fucking dumb.

[greatjimbo78]

Then why does the Xbox 360 sell so well in the UK?

[AntiHeroComplex]

Super intelligent response there. How does what i said have anything to do with UK? Did i mention UK? Did i make any claims about UK only wanting prestigious goods? Did i claim that every country in the world other than USA buys quality stuff?

No i did not. That was your failure of an inference. Reading comprehension isn't your strength apparently.

Now shut the hell up and eat your 99 cent burger.

[greatjimbo78]

Wait, What? It would appear you have no comprehension of anything at all. As you're too stupid to even understand what you wrote in your first post. Let me break it down for you.

You alluded to the fact the 360 only sells in the US. Now we know that the UK, rightly or wrongly, is one of the last countries where the 360 is still selling in large volumes.
So I asked you, if we were to use your logic. "Then why does the Xbox 360 sell so well in the UK."
Also, you 'inferred' and might I add with subversive wit. That the only reason the 360 sells so well in the US, is that it's a cheap and cheerful product and that Americans are somehow stupid when it comes to the purchases they make.

I should have guessed from your first post, that you couldn't string together a coherent, rational response if your life depended on it.

As for eating my "99 cent burger." Again, as you were too busy being a pseudo intellectual. You missed the fact I'm not American.
I was just appalled by your opinion of the American people. I was mainly looking for you to insult the British as well. Two birds with one stone etc! But your response has more than made up for that.

Thank you so very much. You've made my day.

[Otheros00]

So, what does that make the wii?

[greatjimbo78]

The Wii, according to AntiHeroComplex's logic. Makes most of the population of the world stupid or "f*****g dumb".

[Shang-Long]

anithero nice response

[BizDaWolf]

damn 3 dics wow I isn't excepting that

[Romudeth]

Why is it that when a game has a mandatory install on the PS3 everyone makes a big deal out of it but yet when Xbox games come out on multiple disks no one says anything? In the reviews for Mass effect 2, Dead space 2 or Castlevania lords of shadow they never once mentioned that the games were spread out over multiple disks yet HDD installs are a big deal? I guess it's to be expected since this is the USA but it's obvious that the 360's flaws (RROD, DVDs) get a free pass while any minor thing wrong with the PS3 (no cross game chat) gets blown out of proportion.

L.A. Noire is now yet another example why it's best to get the PS3 version of a multiplatform game. This is 2011 not 1997. There is no excuse to have a game spread over multiple disks anymore.

[danielle007]

Well, some of the mandatory installs are very large, and make you just sit there and wait. 3 disks is still pop in a disk, play, pop disk out - pop another one in, play. No waiting.

Maybe impatience wins the day. I certainly haven't heard a big deal from anyone, personally, but if you have that would probably be the reason.

Plus, I don't think swapping disks is that bad, and with the size of games these days I think there is definitely an excuse. This generation is lasting super long. Obviously, if a game takes up almost an entire Blu ray Disk, 360 can't do that with one disk. The 360 came out first, they can't switch to a different format - even if it's much better - between the different versions of the 360, obviously, or they'd screw over a lot of people. So until M$ wants to go to a completely new console, they're stuck dealing with DVD.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

@Romudeth... People make a bigger deal out of mandatory installs because it keeps you from playing the game right away. You have to sit and watch as it installs and can do nothing else. Multi discs make you get off your ass once or twice over the course of playing the whole game but you can play as soon as you put the disc in.

[Romudeth]

I don't see how mandatory installs are so bad. You can go do other stuff while it installs and once it's installed that's it. Swapping disks means that you have to stop playing to put a disk in. And if you are playing a game where you can backtrack then you'll have to do a lot of disk swapping to go back to certain areas. I don't see how that is acceptable.

I understand that the 360 is on DVD and isn't capable of putting an entire game on one disk (one of the many reason why I don't own a 360) and it's too late to change disk formats. What I don't understand is why most people do not mind this or ever bring it up. If I were a video game reviewer I'd knock off a point or two from a 360 version of a game if I had to swap disks in the middle of the game.

Maybe I am being too hardheaded but to me that is a big turn off.

[Greywulf]

It's a double standard. Everyone tries to pretend they don't understand the concept of installing. You do it initially, then enjoy the game. Its identical to pc gaming. Which is why no one can ever retort that its old school to install a game. Facts are this, installing a game makes it perform and load faster. All 360 owners do it to not hear their consoles fan, and to reduce hardware failure. Most sony games with severe content or lazy developers opt for installs. The bar of hd game performance, uncharted, doesn't .need an install. But your subhd fps does? Right.

Ps owners have always cited space as a feature. The fact is disc swapping is out dated. As larger media makes it defunct. Same can't be said for installs. Where they are required in gaming world and design. Especially when you still have performance gains on the 360.

Stop forgetting that multiplats are designed to work on core 360 consoles without installs.

Playstation owners like pc owners;& can find things to do for an installation. Like check on stocks; the kids, or use a droid to do something. Swapping discs is a dated practice. Like rewinding a tape.

[danielle007]

I think both issues are crying over spilled milk. You can't change either, and I don't notice the mandatory installs so much personally, and I don't care about swapping disks either. It's not worth crying about in reviews, and I haven't seen anyone bring up mandatory installs in reviews, either. & I read IGN, and they are notoriously nitpicky when it comes to everything PS3.

Maybe people can't take the mandatory installs because they sit there and watch.. like waiting for water to boil. It feels like it takes 10 hours.

[jaymart]

Buy my single player games for PS3 anyways.

[Aarix]

I hath to warn you...that comment is a set up to make fun of psn's current state.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Doesn't bother me at all in that case. But That does tell all of us that Game Developers wanna make games bigger now like Activision, Bethesda, EA , and RockStar so its time for next gen consoles its not about graphics anymore its about the size of these games. If we don't see new consoles soon then they'll continue to to charge for DLC extra features that didn't make it on disc.

[C0MPUT3R]

For me its not about the disc swapping but HOW MUCH CONTENT GOT CUT!
.
Also I'm sure they made the world smaller as well since it's universal on all discs, and you have to save space for Story Missions & Cut Scenes.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I know Right who cares about Disc Swapping? Its all about what got out. Imma guess 6 to 8 gigs of material. that we can see in DL soon.

[guigsy]

360 version will have multiple discs, PS3 version will (probably) have a mandatory install. LA Noire highlights the downfalls of both disc formats.

[SonyNGP]

That game probably has a lot of realistic grass to be on 3 discs xD

[clarkdef]

I thought this game was free roam? It must not be.

[DaBadGuy]

It is free roam, you'll just have to swap discs for the cases. It's free roam but you'll move up through the different crime desks and thats when you'll have to swap. There will also be random crimes occuring that you can stop, a la RDR with the damsel in distress and the bandits. Apparantly the city is very deep and detailed like Liberty City in GTAIV but has ambient events that occur from time to time like RDR. A nice blend.

I'm very much looking forward to this game.

[Dorwrath]

Two disk swaps. people complaining are lazy mofos who probably leave an imprint in their sofa or chair because they haven't moved for three days.

Mass Effect 2 had to be swapped twice, it was no biggie whatsoever.

Still I have a choice of which console I can buy it on, PS3 or 360 and still getting it for my 360

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Hopefully Rockstar will allow you to install the discs and not need to swap any discs once installed as that is the route I will take for this game.

[Dorwrath]

No it won't, even if installed you still have to do the disk swap. No biggy it's only twice in a 20+ hour game.

People are acting like the disk swapping is gonna be every 15 minutes lol, drama queens.

Is anyone here planning on not moving in twenty hours????

[jizzyjones]

This is what happens when PS3 exclusives turn multi plat. The real question is how will they compare visually.

[danielle007]

Really? I disagree. I must not be as nitpicky as the hardcore fanboys are but I rarely see a difference between versions. Oh my, the PS3 has better shadows, the 360 has better contrast ...

It all looks damn pretty to me.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

bubbles...spoke like a true gamer and not a fanboy.

[jizzyjones]

The differences are generally minimal I agree and about 90% of the time no1 can tell the difference, but I think with some games there can be a noticeable difference (especially rockstar games liek GTA4/red dead).
Multiplats on PS3 are generally 'worse' an as the fact Noir is being shown off on PS3 and used to be exclusive to the platform I think it will lean towards being better on PS3 (although not without a beefy install).
It sounds similar to FF13 aswell which was 3 disk on 360 an 540p resolution, 720p 1 disk on PS3. Thats why I said it will be interesting to compare visually.

[YodaCracker]

FFXIII had tons of CGI cutscenes. Almost 90% of the space the game took up was for that CGI. L.A. Noire's cutscenes will all use the game's engine, just like every open world Rockstar game. It's this new facial animation and motion capture technology that is taking up all the space this time.

This will almost certainly end up like every other Rockstar game, with a higher resolution and framerate for the 360 version.

[nightmarex121]

This game was pretty much made for the ps3, it was build from the start, so they were trying to use ps3 strengths. 360 is probably a port, and they didn't want to take so much time for compressing, same thing happen with ff13. Probably why their so many disks.

[Yukicore]

Don't get too excited, there are TONS of motion captured scenes, where characters just talk, that's why the game-files are so large. What i do know - It will have free-roam, you will have your own save-houses, random side-missions, amazing graphics, very good physics engine. I can't wait for this game, Rockstar set whole new level to video-games with GTA:IV, there were no developers that really wanted to risk trying to games with extremely advanced physics engine and graphics, but Rockstar did it, and hell yes they changed everything in game industry! Since GTA:IV games have gotten a lot better, and so will do this project. You HAVE to love THAT COMPANY! Though this game is not developed by Rockstar studios, they have shared things with Team Bondi (L.A. Noire Developers) and Team Bondi have made new physics engine, so better frame-rates, better graphics and super-realistic MOTION CAPTURED PEOPLE!

[Ninver]

I love my ps3 :)

[Joni-Ice]

Me too dude.

[Ninjamonkey82]

I don't know i would still recommend this to anyone tbh R* has a high Quality bar that they always seem to hit. Be that one disk are three i own all systems so ive made my mind up to get it on ps3.

But im not gonna say for someone on xbox not to buy the game its still gonna be the full experence no matter a few disk swaps. As far as i know this isn't GTA anyways its story driven.

Meaning there will be points in the game there is no going back meaning disk change won't effect the guys playing on xbox that bad. I'm just glad theres more good single player games on the horizon tbh.

[BLAKHOODe]

I was planning to get this for PS3 anyway.. not having to deal with disc swapping is just an added bonus.

[Merivigian]

You swap it twice during the whole game, is it that much of an inconvenience?

[undercovrr]

Its more of an inconvenience than not swapping it.

[Dark_king]

Actually you change disc twice for ever play through.However 3 dvd's or 1 bluray,I will take a scratch resistant bluray I just always scratch dvd's up.

[BLAKHOODe]

Not MUCH of an inconvenience, BUT an inconvenience nonetheless.

[SeraphimBlade]

Again, I've been planning to get it on PS3 since it was originally announced exclusively for PS3. I knew something like this would happen, surprised they kept it under wraps for this long.

Enjoy your disc-swapping, 360 owners! Think of it as exercise!

[jay2]

The real reason it's 3 discs long is simple, it wasn't f'ed around with and had content cut due to losing 40 odd Gig of space having been a PS3 exclusive. Now, if you're keeping GTA V multi plat PLEASE follow suit with it.

[marioPSUC]

No, the real reason its 3 discs, is cause of all the content in the massive game, and the new Motion Scan Technology that takes up a ton. Im guessing they dont know how to compress the new tech right now so they just had to put it on 3 discs

[Nac]

Sounds Epic, looking forward to it.

[Gamerfans]

3 disc!!! WOW! I think I'll go with the ps3. Also it has exclusive content too.

[josephayal]

Cant wait to play this Master-piece in my 60GB PS3

[Falaut]

wish I still had mine, it popped playing RDR, now I'll use the RSX and Cell chips and put them into a nice display frame and put it in my office. Now its slim time.

[andron]

Can't wait for this game, hopefully it will be great...

[Silly gameAr]

That's actually good to know. Lot of game to play and explore here.

[SpLinT]

is it just a big map with all the doors to the city locked? like GTA4? i hope not

[Falaut]

I'm one of the first to cut into the bulging belly of MS. But seriously, this disc swap shiz is being blown out of proportion, just like PSN the last two weeks.

PS3 installs still being blasted...wow, I've been installing stuff since 91. And whats up with these arguments that you have to wait for it to install, really! F*CK! so you're willing to sit in front of your telly for 30+ hours but you can't wait 5 minutes while making a sandwich, F*CK!

@above...wowie

[C0MPUT3R]

Lets see here
.
+Originally a PS3 exclusive
+PS3 is the lead platform
+Exclusive Case/Content
+1 Blu-ray.
+All previews have been PS3 version.
+All trailers PS3 version.
+360 version hasn't even been shown. (Not even a screenshot.)

Yet 360 fans think the multi-DVD version will be better? ROFL.

[undercovrr]

OMG WE PS3 USERS HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE CASE! I've been waiting to have an exclusive case to stare at for years. Thank you rockstar, now the ps3 version is truly superior.

All seriousness, the 360 version has not been shown as you stated, meaning that you are in no position to judge the ps3 version being better. So go enjoy your exclusive case.

[SlyFoxC]

i can see where you are coming from...but you know if the 360 had the exclusive case that all the xbox users would be throwing it in the ps3 users face

i am a ps3 user, but im not a troll, i dont bash the 360, and dont claim that the ps3 is better...i might say i like the ps3 better than the 360 (and yes i have a 360) and tell everyone i know to switch over to the ps3, but its my own opinion, im not forcing people at gun point to play the ps3.....all i care about is that this game is amazing!

you guys really need to stop fighting about what one is better, no matter what people say in the end both of the systems games do the same thing....give gamers something to play!

[KDubyah]

Oh yes, cause the videos on the xBox 360 for download are of the PS3 version. -.-

[PirateThom]

Do you remember the Final Fantasy XIII debacle where 360 buttons were pasted onto PS3 gameplay for a 360/FFXIII TV spot?

[KDubyah]

Nope. Not at all, PirateThom. Never heard of it, actually.
But, still, there is a difference between xBox Live and TV.
Square could be the ones solely doing the commercial TV ads.
Where as with XBL, I find it hard to believe MS would allow PS3 footage.

[Dark_king]

@KDubyah Nope square sold MS the advertising rights.Square really had nothing to do with FF13 advertising anywhere but Japan.

[thespaz]

How can you tell from a screenshot if it's the PS3 or 360 version? Are there on-screen buttons for every screenshot?

Just wondering how you can tell which version is being shown.

[dkgshiz]

I'm going to get the PS3 version.

[outlawlife]

really doesn't bug me, I have it paid for on 360 already

[tay8701]

is really surprising news? there was an article published over a year ago about bondi freaking about size limitation of 360.

http://www.rockstarwatch.ne...

[kuroukage]

Not surprising to me either. Dual layered DVD tech has been outdated for ages now. Not as bad as Wii, but close. Swapping discs sounds like something you had to do on the PS1. That's why it's laughable in this day and age. Hopefully MS will use an up to date tech on their next console for media.

[n1kki6]

Before I say anything I will qualify my statement by saying I only have a ps3. But disk swapping would be a bitch for me. All of my audio video equipment is in a closet in the laundry room, which depending which ps3, i am playing on is a major pita. Now if PSN isn't back up and can't use cloud saving, that will suck. But if I was on 360 disc swapping would be inconvenient. Not a deal breaker but its 2011 and I like all my stuff streamlined as can be.

[Raptura]

Why can't this be released on fucking PC? 3 discs? What a turn off.

[KDubyah]

The only question I have for you (ps3) people complaining about swapping of the discs ..
How is it any different than when you play MGS4 and have to install for every chapter?
You know, other than the fact that the installs take longer than swapping a disc.

Seriously, though, honest question. I would like for a straight forward answer.
Swapping of a disc takes less than 10 seconds if you leave the discs accessible ..

[DelbertGrady]

Mandatory installs are much more common than games with multiple discs on the 360. I prefer the latter. With the PS3 you also constantly have to download and install lengthy patches for your games. That's even more annoying than the mandatory installs.

I can't wait to play L.A. Noir. What a beastly game!

[Tigan]

I find it funny how some complaint about disc swapping. It will take about 1 minute to swap a total of 3 discs and that's being generous. It will take about 10-15 MINUTES to load up the game on the ps3.

Didn't GTA4 look better on the 360?? I beleive it was sub HD on the ps3 so i hope at least rockstar will make it hd this time around. Give me some reason to buy it on ps3.

[Mr Tretton]

Well, it was built on the PS3.

PS3 verison = uncompressed audio. Something very much not talked about this generation, the PS3 and Blu ray deserving much credit for this.

[Tigan]

who cares about uncompressed audio?? In order to get uncompressed audio you have to have right equipment to decode it. Very little games have uncompressed audio if you mean DTS-HD, DoblyTrueHD or others.

Just because the lead platform is ps3 doesn't mean it wil be superior. Im willing to bet that it will look the same on the 360 as it does on the ps3 maybe even better on 360. When ps3 is lead platform its means the 360 will match but when it's the other way around it means the ps3 get the crappy port. That's just the way it's been for the last 4 or so years.

[Veeger]

It's a good sign they didn't decide to cut the game to fit one or two DVDs. Anybody still in love with ancient DVD tech?

[SlyFoxC]

ok so what the game has three discs!!! omg news flash! everyone from the 90's had to swap disc multiple times....its nothing new and really isnt this big of a deal...

look at this like you look at tvs....sure you have a remote control but i bet sometimes you still change the channel by actually pushing the buttons on the tv..

yes i am a ps3 gamer, and proud to be. i use to play 360 but wasnt happy with it, loved halo 2 and always will, nothing else really jumped out at me tho. so i switched over to ps3 (the dark side XD) but does it really matter what system i play on? no not to me..i prefer it and that is all...

this constant battle over systems needs to stop...do people sit on here and argue about cars, tvs, boats, shoes, socks, bathtubs, maids, prostitutes?

people have the right to use whatever they want, it is a personal preference... let it go...

disagree all you want, i wont lose any sleep over it..

disagrees on N4G are like crabs, you never want them, but you still get them..

We Are The Resistance
SlyFoxC

[macky301]

I agree with you,.. I really would not hold that as a big deal against 360, as long as publishers are willing to pay royalties for the added discs and not cut our content,..I have more issues with DVDs scratching.

I really don't give a rats ass if they have to swap,.. or I had a 2-3 50gig bluray released game and had to swap..

There are far more serious issues I have with xbox360 and MS,.. it is complete crap and waste of money overall,.. No software product differentiation at all,.. 99percent of core games it has, I can play between PS3 and PC,.(mostly everything on PS3),..

You must be brain dead or heavily invested in it (with games you bought for it) to choose 360 over PS3,.. even the price is not a big deal anymore.

[Denethor_II]

I know you 360 fans maintain blu ray is unnecessary, but wouldn't you have it so this rather archaic bother didn't occur? Plus you could watch the new standard, that replaced DVD, in an all in one game machine, not to mention 7.1 uncompressed audio.

It's good that they put it on three discs so as not to compromise the game, but I contradict you have to wonder of the cutbacks to fit it on three.

[M]

Thats wonderful, lots and lots of Gameplay, I can't wait to pick this up.

[Frak]

Curse you micro for not using blu-ray.

PS3 here i COMEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[ralnabhan]

never mind 3 disc the epic
im wait this game

[SuperSaiyan4]

I am willing to be the time it takes for the PS3 version to load each area 360 owners could have swapped discs, got a drink, eat something and started playing and the PS3 version would probably still be loading.

[thespaz]

PS3 vs 360 loading times are very close. Where do you get that the PS3 has long loading times due to the Blu-ray.

[thekiddfran]

No wonder you have one bubble.

[Pillville]

They should let you install disks 2 & 3 to hard drive and then only require that disk 1 is in the tray to play it.

That would eliminate the swapping and still keep people from installing, then selling it.

[Agent_S]

True and i'd love that to be the case, but I dont see it happening.

[Pillville]

It won't happen because it's easy, it works, and it makes sense. Those things are forbidden these days.

[BabyTownFrolics]

if you cant put all the discs on the 360's hard drive then I will play it on the ps3

[thespaz]

PS3 is going to be the better version all around.

1. Better graphics/performance (due to it originally being a PS3 exclusive, it was probably the lead console).

2. PS3 exclusive content

3. One single scratch-resistant Blu-ray disc

4. Offline game anyways, so PSN doesn't have to be online (hehe).

Number 4 was obviously a joke.

[Scyrus]

besides this time of game being annoying on 3 disc i thing the only more annoying thing is installing all 3 discs....SUCH a pain. takes for ever.

and yes i have a big 360 hard drive so I install games to make them faster. But may aswell just get the one disc ps3 version anyway

[PSjesus]

ewwwwwwww i miss PS1 days

[TBONEJF]

DAMN 400 ACTORS AND BIGGER WORLD. THAT'S ONE MASSIVE GAME. Thank goodness I have a PS3 for this game

[maxcer]

lol at the petty fanboy bickering. you know what version im getting it on? whatever one i fucin want!

[Agent_S]

Great point but I believe that would be "fuckin" with a "k" unless fucin is your word with a meaning all its own?

[Agent_S]

Disc swapping does'nt bother me a bit. As long as I get to experience this game, all is good.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Oh well. Not sure if I'm even buying this game but PS3 it definitely the way it is if I do. But still who cares? swap twice at some intervals in the game, meh it's not that big of deal.

[FunkMcnasty]

Wow.. Is it me or does it seem like the Sony Fanginas on this thread have more of an issue with the 360 version being 3 discs than the actual 360 owners?

Haha.. What a bunch of ignorant trolls those Sony die-hard's are.. They don't even have to buy the game on Xbox, but they sure love to complain about how inferior it is.

[Foxhound922]

wow all the xbot fanboys need to shut up about mandatory installs. even the longest installs are what, maybe 10 minutes. while its installing go make a sandwich or take a crap lol its not that big of a deal, but swaping disks back and forth would be a pain, probably becuase ive delt with it, around oh lets see....ten years ago. i cant wait to see gta v, switching disks between islands. plus the ps3 version has bonus content, if you have both systems, theres absolutely no point in buying the 360 version. after gears 3, my 360 is im throwing in the towel for my 360. just sayin

[OpiZA]

Not really a problem, just like swapping a disc when I change games, I'm often going between Fifs and other games.

Would rather not have to but it's not gonna ruin my day. Wish R* would allow those with HDD's to install the lot