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Anonymous to newz.dk: We did not steal any user information from PSN

In what appears to be an email, sent to Danish news site Newz.dk, from a messenger within Anonymous or at least somebody claiming to be, it states that Anonymous has not been stealing any information from PSN.

A selection from the letter sent to Newz.dk:
"First and foremost, we will ensure all users of the PSN, we are not and never will collect credit information from end users of PSN. In fact, the end users has never been our goal. This is a poor excuse from Sony, which has enabled them to obtain information about anonymous members. Which has led to the arrests of 40 anonymous members now considered to be in the FBI's custody..."

Read the whole article and letter from Anonymous after the jump!

In general: Remember to take everything you read in the case between Sony and Anonymous with a grain of salt and be careful not to jump to too many conclusions, since much of it is still rumor and speculation, despite the fact that Sony has officially been out and tell a part at this time.

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Hagaf224765d ago

So they say they didn't steal user data, well that sounds like they are admitting they had something to do with the attacks then. If they were going to hold the stance they didn't do this they wouldn't need to say they didn't steal our info. Way to go anonymous, you openly admitted to causing this. Now, I'm off to buy portal 2 since I have completed MK's story and Socom's single player. Thanks for the offline game time. Douches.

Dante1124765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

Like most of the people said in that site's comment section, I kinda think this is another fake as well. The 40 warrants and arrest on Anonymous happened back in January ( Source: http://www.computerworld.co... ) and how would Sony get information about Anonymous members and get folks arrested if they had nothing to do with the attack and are innocent? Then during the statement, it's like he goes back on what he said above with this comment where he says "But escalated when Sony got the users information through youtube which should not be legal, and simply shows that our methods matches Sony's". Huh?

LOGICWINS4764d ago (Edited 4764d ago )

"If they were going to hold the stance they didn't do this they wouldn't need to say they didn't steal our info."

...or maybe they're defending themselves because people on the Internet(like yourself) will constantly accuse them of something everytime PSN gets hacked regardless if it was them or not.

Anonymous wants as many people on their side as possible in order to forward their cause..do you think they'll just sit back while they get accused of stealing from the SAME consumers they are trying to reach out to?

It amuses me how people on N4G pretend they know all..when in reality all they know is what they are told. Everything else they "think" they know comes from childlike reasoning that emhasize emotions over common logic.

"Bu bu bu buh Jimmy took my sandwich last week, so Jimmy HAD to be the one who stole Ralph's toy car yesterday."

Soldierone4764d ago

You ever watch the Disney shows as a kid? Where there was one trouble maker in the show constantly getting in trouble? And then the one time he DIDNT do something, he still got accused for it and in trouble for the most part?

Its because you bring it on yourself. If your a theif that has gone to prison three times, and happen to be in a mall when it gets robbed....I gurentee you won't walk away without being questioned. You dont want people blaming you? then dont do stupid things.

Anon brought it upon themselves, and now all they have to do and should do is STFU and let Sony deal with the issues. If it wasn't them they have nothing to worry about. If it was...well that explains why they constantly say it wasnt.

ComboBreaker4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

Anony: "We will not attack PSN."
Anony went ahead and attack the PSN.

Anony: "We will not bring down the PSN."
Anony went ahead and bought down the PSN.

Anony: "We did not steal your credit card number."
Anony went ahead and take $500 from everyone's credit card and donate it to GeoHot.

Can we really trust what Anony said anymore? Could we even trust them to begin with?

Will the Anony defenders finally wake up? Or will they keep letting Anony lie to them and take advantage of them?

FishCake9T44764d ago

Im pretty sure Anony didnt do any of those things? I thought it was brought down by Turks.

cogniveritas4764d ago

Anonymous isn't an organized group because are all supposed to be anonymous. If one Anonymous guy participates in stealing data, then of course the millions of other Anonymous who didnt do it can deny it. That's their goal and what makes them a hard target.

lee_ten4764d ago

their goal/intention was to embarrass sony. based on the reports/misleading information/trolling/ FUD, they pretty much succeeded.

yewles14765d ago

ANOTHER confession. Congratz, kids.

Octo14765d ago

I'd believe you if you were not an "organization" with no real chain of command.Just because some in the group says one does not mean it speaks for Anonymous as a whole.

Dante1124765d ago

Was you comment directed at me or the guy in the article, because you can check all of my comments on Anonymous if you think I'm a member lol.

Octo14765d ago

wasn't directed at anyone.It was to Anon if you want a "who was it directed to"

TheMrMadzen4765d ago

Do you think us in Denmark will fucking believe your shit??

Downtown boogey4764d ago

YEAH!
The people of Denmark will not buy into that BS!

Ingram4764d ago (Edited 4764d ago )

that's hilarious!

Ddouble4765d ago

40 members arrested!
I thought these guys couldn't be found. Not so anonymous

metsgaming4765d ago

i would wait for conformation of something like that but i hope it happens

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers17d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken17d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g17d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing17d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H917d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola17d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66917d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle17d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg18d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos18d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola18d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies38d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken38d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga38d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken38d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6438d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long38d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197238d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic38d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12538d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91338d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer38d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91337d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit37d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher38d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6937d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit37d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher38d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken38d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197238d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic38d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2338d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218338d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder38d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts38d ago

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