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Wiis Gathering Dust in Japan

Kotaku states:
"Sure, the Nintendo Wii is selling well in Japan. But are people actually using it or is the console just room decor? President of Famitsu publisher Enterbrain Hirokazu Hamamura not only predicts 30 million DSes sold by 2009, but also shows figures that indicate something like 67 percent of Japanese Wii owners are not using the Wii console recently. Which probably means people bought the Wii and Wii Sports, played it until they got sick of it and have returned to their DSes. Sure, Super Mario Galaxy will have folks playing the crap out of their Wiis again. But until then? Damn, it's been a long, hard dry spell since the console launched. "

Clinton5146066d ago (Edited 6066d ago )

But it's one that I often bring up in conversations with friends and co-workers. Who's actually playing Wii? Yes, Nintendo does deserve the praise for selling their consoles like hotcakes, but why isn't the media or gamers in general grilling them for the lack of quality games?

Is the price point Nintendo's saving grace from the backlash?

On a personal level- I don't see *many "high profile" titles on the Wii at the moment. Mine is sitting in the living room right now untouched for quite some time now. :(

forum_crawler6065d ago

Me!

There are so many games to choose from, I don't know what that guy is talking about. Just because I don't know anyone who owns a PS3, let alone play it doesn't mean it isn't being sold, or played with.

DrPirate6066d ago (Edited 6066d ago )

This gen sucks.

The best console with the biggest library of games has a pay-for online service (And I'm sorry if I'm cheap, but damn, I don't game online enough to subscribe to it, I prefer to game online when I only have the time), and a high hardware fail rate. Not to mention, when the gates opened, Microsoft was out there running it out, buying exclusives, entering the developer forums mindshare, securing the future of it's platform, boasting unforseen attach rates, delivering the best content, and they went, and they ran, and they delivered, AND THEN!!!!!!! with this sudden onslaught of stupid moves, losing developers left, right and center, no more communication with the audience.....Slowly, slipping away... But why Microsoft, I'm a Sony admirer, and even I admit you guys had this generation by the balls.... After 07, it seems to be dry except for a handful of games equivalent to the PS3's exclusive library at the end of 07. '09? Rare's gonna save your asses right?

The best built console has all the right features,powerful enough to power the damn universe if someone invests alot of time and money in it, but it's lacking up the whazoo in features that have been promised since way before launch (In-game xmb, crossgame chat, etc, etc have been promised to us in 2006). It also has the smallest line-up of games with all it's gems being developed internally, so if you want quality games, you have to wait for first/second party studios and other exclusive games (ala MGS4) to really get the full worth of this console. How rediculous is it, when every multiplatform game on it refuses to take advantages of the features that make it unique because it's not cost effective. Here's the answer: It's NOT rediculous, it's brilliant economic management. Sony! Let's see you coerce some developers into taking advantage of your hardware that ISN'T a PC, instead of just suggesting as if it was a polite request. You're current install base payed premium price for it's product, we want a company this is willing to go out of it's way to get everyone and anyone to deliver the best content possible for that install base, if it costs you, so be it, it already bloody damn well costed us a fortune too, did you forget us? Lets not forget that rediculous cost of entry, altough I truly believe 400$ for what you get now (and for the upcoming titles is actually a better deal and actually worth it to any serious gamer who couldn't jump in before)

The highest selling console is a piece of crap. Last-gen era graphics and sound. Graphics and Sound don't make a game eh? That's like saying 1960 horror movies still scare you, it's not the same experience, especially if you're one to get involved and immersed in the worlds the game creators want you to dive in. Gimmick controls (I'm sorry, I hated Lair because I hate waving my hands like a madman trying to play a damn game when all I feel like doing is laying back), a lineup comprised of damn casual games, training games, and first party Nintendo titles which, aren't fairing any better then games on other platforms. Let's not forget that they;re blood well trying to market exercise as a video game. This has been done centuries ago, it's called sports for f*cks sakes. People knock Heavenly Swords replay value? At least the story was good, Metroid Prime 3 had no replay value WHATSOEVER, same goes for Zelda Twilight Princess. Just to show you, I have a Wii in my house, but guess who bought it... My mother and my sister. I haven't touched the damn console except for the day I got it to see what this idiotic hype over WiiSports was. Turned out to be a damn shallow experience only comparable to pong and any other game you can play with one button on the controller.

I hate the way this generation is going up to now. Every bloody FPS is getting 9-10 on all ratings, niche and artistic games are getting the shaft, video gamers everywhere are no longer united, but think they're soldiers warring on a front. Screw this sh*t mates. SOMEONE BLOODY WELL TELL ME WHAT THE F*CK HAPPENED! Since when did we start caring about console sales. It's not our bloody job to sell the console, but yet, we want our consoles to succeed so more games are made for it...Look at that lads, we're in a bloody three way tug-of-war..... Isn't THIS a fun game? Which other console generation had "fanboys" and trolls, and fanwars. What is it that made games so special then, and what is it now that makes people hate good games. So you hate Halo 3? Shove it up your ass mate, I actually liked Halo 3, I actually liked the production values of Heavenly Sword, I look forward to seeing what an immersive experience like Killzone 2 could provide, or what an interactive Star Wars game like Mass Effect can give us. No, we're all too busy bickering with one another. We're slaves to the reviewers...Slaves to the gaming press, slaves to the companies that think they own us, thinking we live and die by every press release.

/End rant.

xplosneer6066d ago

Don't end it. That wasn't a rant. It was a speech. A speech that perfectly describes this console generation. +bubbles and agree.

IntelligentAj6066d ago

I couldn't have put it better myself. Well said man.

Omegasyde6066d ago

DrPirate that was well said. BubbleUP↑

How ironic how the tables have turned.

At least EveryDay shooter got some decent reviews.

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DrPirate6066d ago (Edited 6066d ago )

I daresay mate...Well played....Well played.

Feel free to disagree alllll you want. It's the beauty of free opinion.

I'm still not changing or taking back anything though. I'm not playing Super Smash because I didn't like the previous iterations. If yo have something to say, write it up. Let people know.

unsunghero286066d ago (Edited 6065d ago )

Sorry?

It's not really as simple as best or worst or w/e.

The Wii is selling very well and it has some great tiles coming up.

The 360 is selling very well and it has some great titles out.

The PS3 is selling... not so well, but it has some amazing titles coming up.

Also, Super Smash Bros Brawl could be one of the most played games of this gen easily. I know a lot of people don't like the Wii based on what it has now, but please cut Nintendo a break. That's all I'm asking.

And, of course...

"The highest selling console is a piece of crap... which other console generation had "fanboys" and trolls, and fanwars?"

"Metroid Prime 3 had no replay value WHATSOEVER, same goes for Zelda Twilight Princess... what is it now that makes people hate good games?"

LOL @ contradiction.

Sorry, but calling the Wii crap IS a little fanboyistic, because let's face it it's a matter of opinion. So that's contradictory.

And, guess what, IMO Metroid Prime 3 and LoZ are both amazing games that are clear contenders for GOTY of their respective years. So, as you say, shove it up your ass mate.

I agree with you in a lot of ways, but if you dis Nintendo despite the great stuff they've been doing then all I really can see is an angry fanboy. I understand that you don't like the Wii, but it seems to me that you dis its games because you think hating the Wii and liking its games are mutually exclusive.

@Below
Ehhh, fair enough.

(also, the "up your ass" quote was actually taken directly from what you wrote...)

cooke156066d ago

Ok last gen graphics and sound. Since when has that made the game? Never. We are not talking about movies from the 1960's the difference is NOT that big. Especially the sound issue. There are a lot of great looking Wii games, and if developers try they can make amazing games on any hardware. I mean look at SMG and Brawl, they have great graphics on so called last gen hardware. I commend Nintendo for taking a huge risk, I like what they are doing, I hate the onslaught of crap games though, but my answer to that is to not buy them. Though I do find myself buying more games for Wii than I ever did for GameCube and its only going to go up as this year progresses.

DrPirate6065d ago

"The highest selling console is a piece of crap... which other console generation had "fanboys" and trolls, and fanwars?"

Alright, if the Wii is treating you well, than you really don't care about my opinion. In case you didn't read, I just wrote about my dislikes about every individual console, in the Wii's case, the hardware can't push like the other consoles can. If anything, I'll say it's not a piece of sh*t, but I'll say this. The Wii will forever have to utilize art direction over graphics if they are to achieve any impact at all graphically. Otherwise, it may find it's game getting lost in time in the future.

"Metroid Prime 3 had no replay value WHATSOEVER, same goes for Zelda Twilight Princess... what is it now that makes people hate good games?"

Dude, I'm sorry, the parallel between people calling Zelda crap, and a game like Heavenly Sword crap, or calling Halo 3 crap is all the same to me. I never could have finished a single Zelda or Metroid Prime game. I owned a gamecube, and rented both on the Wii. I guess it's just me, but to me, they're games over hyped by Nintendo fans. My opinion, if you liked this, good for you, if you pulled alot more from their gameplay, so much the better for you.

"Sorry, but calling the Wii crap IS a little fanboyistic, because let's face it it's a matter of opinion. So that's contradictory."

It's my opinion, yes. I didn't pass anything off as fact.

"And, guess what, IMO Metroid Prime 3 and LoZ are both amazing games that are clear contenders for GOTY of their respective years. So, as you say, shove it up your ass mate."

You're opinion...that last bit was mean though :(...

"I agree with you in a lot of ways, but if you dis Nintendo despite the great stuff they've been doing then all I really can see is an angry fanboy. I understand that you don't like the Wii, but it seems to me that you dis its games because you think hating the Wii and liking its games are mutually exclusive."

I didn't say what Nintendo is doing isn't great. Just look at their sales. My main point is that the most popular and highest sold console today, in my eyes, isn't doing anything special or new for gaming... All of the experiences you can get in a Wii, you can find better elsewhere. It's like my saying the Story of God of War 1 and 2 easily trample any of the adventures of the Legend of Zelda. I don't expect you to agree with that, but to me, anything that came from Nintendo felt overly simplistic, easy, and failed to catch me in that way that it catches people who are fans. Lastly: Like I said at the beginning. If you like what Nintendo is doing, support them man, I'm not telling you that you're in the wrong, or that I'm right. No one is wrong or right.

fury6065d ago

Amen. I couldn't have put it better myself. You deserve bubbles.

tethered6064d ago

You hit the nail on the head.
I agree 100%

Bubble for you DrPirate.

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sonarus6066d ago

havnt played wii since red steel. Got sick of it quick would have sold it but ppl who havnt played it always seem to get a kick out of it. Wii was cool when u 1st get it played a whole lot of games on it but all in all it isnt bad but as a traditional gamer i have to say i'll take 360&ps3 anyday

cooke156066d ago

wow so you played a bad game and sold it.. you sure gave it a chance.

I should of sold my PS3 after playing Lair.

tocrazed4you6066d ago

Now its just sitting there... when I didn't have metroid I tried playing mario strikers and mario party 8 ugh.... Didn't last me long and I left it there the whole summer sigh.

cooke156066d ago

hey heres something you can do.. BUY NEW GAMES. God damnit these people tick me off. When you are done with a game buy anew one! Battalion Wars 2 comes out next week, then Manhunt 2 after that, then SMG, Nights, MOH2 (32player online) there are ALOT of good games coming to Wii but you guys just choose to ignore them. You want to find reasons to hate Wii because its kicking the snot out of your beloved PS3.

aiphanes6066d ago

Metroid Prime 3 was blah....so i did not buy it...I would rather play Halo 3. My Xbox 360 even collects dust...nothing really excites me on it..I did not by Halo 3 after i heard it was 640p...but i will probably get than game when the price drops to $39.99...Right now i mostly play my PS3.....warhawk is where its at...I will play COD4, and Haze and Uncharted, and Ratchet and Clank....Mass Effect...i might buy for my 360...and Mario Galaxy for my Wii, so it won't collect too much dust...but in 2008....its all PS3...MGS4, UT3, Little big planet, Killzone2, GT5, Final Fantasy 13, Infamous....I will get GTA4 on the PS3, and Burnout Pardise on the PS3 too...

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The Indie Games Scene Is Carrying The Gaming Industry At This Point

Indie games are single-handedly carrying the gaming industry right now and it's about time they get their deserved recognition.

shinoff21839h ago

Idk about numbers but it certainly seems so. I'm cool with indies so no biggie.

anast7h ago

I'm cool too, but perception is just that.

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Sony CEO says although AI "has been used for creation," it's "not a substitute for human creativity"

"AI is not a substitute for human creativity. We position it as a technology that supports creativity. Creativity resides in people. We will continue to contribute to people's creativity through technology," the CEO said.

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1nsomniac1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

...not yet but 100% within the next 10 years!

..Then Sony will use it like the drop of a hat. They're no different to the others.

isarai1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

They used to be 😞 sure it was always a business, and money's always the priority, but they used to have a very strong stance on supporting artists and creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" was a phrase they touted a few times back in the ps1-ps3 era, a philosophy carried over from their music branch PlayStation was created from. It's not COMPLETELY gone, but it's barely there compared to what it was back then, i just want them to return to that.

Eonjay13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I am highly encouraged by their statement about human creativity. "Dont f#@k with the artist" is exactly what they are saying. But at the same time, I don't think people understand that Sony is a corporation. If they don't realize growth, they don't get to exist. When you say 'Sony', you are talking about a bunch of investors. To speak about them any other way is a illogical and incorrect. They haven't changed. They have been a group of investors since they became a public business.

isarai1d 1h ago

Ugh, i really wish people would stop gambling people's livelihoods by turning a project/game into their political soapbox. Im all for statements and having your own opinion, but there's more people working on this than just druckman, ham fisting your political beliefs onto just seems inconsiderate for everyone elses job security when it can result in a failure due to people avoiding it for that reason.

I play games for escape, im so tired of nearly every AAA game blatantly dragging real world issues to shove in my face when I'm trying to take a break from it all. They don't even bother to be subtle about it, quite the opposite, it's blasted and force fed to you and it's just getting exhausting

Einhander197215h ago

People are taking a whole interview and cutting it down to clips that make him look bad and take what he actually was saying out of context. For example he also said things like this AI has "ethical issues we need to address"

-Foxtrot14h ago

@Einhander

Why defend him at this point?

It’s not taking things out of context, he said what he said.

Old ND would never talk about soulless AI taking over so many creative things they are well known for. The whole “ethical issues” is just a good PR spin people who push this crap fall back on to make their statements not seem as bad. So many AI lovers do this.

AI has no place is so many creative based things.

Einhander197215h ago

Well yeah, because everyone else is using it so they need to stay competitive. It's the same as paid online, they didn't want to go that route but their competition was making so much money they needed to add paid online just to keep up.

RaiderNation12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

AI will never replace humans in game development in terms of conceptualizing new games. Humans still need to come up with the ideas and what they want to implement. However much of the day to day menial coding could be AI driven to reduce production time and team size. I could also see AI being used for bug testing/optimization that could lead to better quality games at launch. I'm actually very optimistic about how AI can positively impact game development.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 9h ago

Good statement but hopefully this holds up

NotoriousWhiz14h ago

People that aren't software developers just don't understand the benefits of AI. People who's only exposure to A.I is the Terminator movie and other related sci fi films won't understand the benefits it provides.

It's not about replacing human labor. It's about making human labor easier.

Many years ago, I had laser eye surgery done. It was performed by a robot. The doctor took my measurements and calibrated the machine to make sure it would do what needed be done. And then the robot corrected my vision in 10 seconds.

15 years later and I still have 20/20 vision.

Eonjay13h ago

AI in and of itself is not a 'bad'. Money is bad. Money is evil, and corporations will do whatever they can to get more of it. They will find ways to implement AI to replace as may jobs as possible. This isn't even up for debate. It is the charge of the corporation to maximize returns for the investors. They have no choice. I'm a developer and I know that my job will absolutely be replaced. Therefore, I have decided to become an AI dev. AI has a lot of potential to help us solve problem on a scale most can't even imagine. The issue, as ever is that our monetary system only ever allows us to focus on greed and fiscal growth.

But I am a pragmatist. Perhaps an AI model can be built to help protect us from our most dangerous instincts and habits. And perhaps Congress can pass laws to protect us from people who would use AI to manipulate and control us (spoiler: they wont).

RaiderNation21m ago(Edited 21m ago)

Progress is inevitable. Nobody driving cars today is complaining that the horse and buggy is no longer around. Yes, some jobs will be lost but guess what? With innovation comes new job opportunities. It's how the cycle of the job market works.

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The Digital Dragons 2024 conference event was a huge success story

"Three days filled with specialist lectures delivered by almost 200 speakers, three thematic summits, and over 2600 guests from almost every corner of the world - the capital of Małopolska became the capital of the games industry for a few days.

Organized by the Krakow Technology Park, the Digital Dragons Conference once again showed that Poland is attracting more and more attention from the world's biggest industry tycoons for a reason." - Digital Dragons.