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Metacritic users strike again: Portal 2 gets slew of negative reviews

This is something I did not expect. In what almost seems like a repeat of Dragon Age II’s slew of negative Metacritic user reviews, Portal 2 has been ripped a new one by much of the review aggregator’s community.

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Pozzle4757d ago

Good thing nobody cares about Metacritic user reviews.

Anon19744757d ago

Indeed. When users can go "I did not play this game. It's dumb. 1 out of 10," and have that factored into a score - kinda makes you question what use that metric is.

Now all metacritic needs to do is ditch those sites that just troll for hits in their reviews, like Destructoid. At what point do you start pulling reviewers when the quality of their work takes a nosedive like in Destructoid's case.

heroicjanitor4757d ago

Yeah, there really should be some kind of quality control. "Waah there is day one dlc - 0 out of 10". That is not a review. I have no impression of how good the game is from someone moaning about their idiotic principles.

thor4757d ago

There IS quality control, at least for the professional reviews. Each site is given a weighting based upon its influence, popularity, quality etc. and then this is used to weight the average accordingly. Not saying it's perfect, but they have at least thought of that.

The user reviews you can ignore, unless they are well-written.

darthv724757d ago

I can see this type of behavior when it comes to an exclusive and one side is trying to undermine the other.

This game is not exclusive. So.....WTF? Why try and bring down a perfectly good multiplatform game.

Commander_TK4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

Except MLD. He fucking loves that site.

http://youtube.com/generalm...

VictoriousB134756d ago

Lol that whole comment screams "Destructoid doesn't like the same games I do so they must suck".

Heartnet4756d ago

BOy i love how people only listened to reviews when it suuits them :) saying Day 1 dlc and making it a low review score is valid since having day 1 dlc means they could have put that into the game instead of charging u alot for it

HolyOrangeCows4756d ago

@Commander_TK

That's because, like the large amount of negative reviews for Portal 2 on Metacritic, MLD is a troll. He flip flops more than Obama on a pancake in Bush's pan! That's like, 3 levels of flip flopping.

ikkokucrisis4756d ago

Yea Victorious,

Destructoid DOES suck, welcome to reality man...

heroicjanitor4756d ago

@Heartnet

It isn't valid, it is childish and petty. Day one dlc has nothing to do with whether the content on disc is worth the money.

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LOGICWINS4757d ago

A lot of bitter people out there.

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darthv724756d ago

why is that? Seems to me all 3 are equally entertaining. Why single out one from another?

sobekflakmonkey4756d ago

@darthv72

I think he said that because, to be honest the 360 version of portal 2 is pretty ugly looking in comparison to the ps3/pc versions of portal 2, no doubt they are all entertaining, but honestly, look at screen shots of all three versions side by side, theres huge differences, visually that is. (im not siding with anybody or anything either...just saying.)

creatchee4756d ago

I bought it on the PS3 (for the Steam integration), but I've seen the 360 version both on an HDTV at the store and in standard def at my friend's. The game looks fine on both consoles.

Besides - if you're playing Portal 2 for the graphics, you're missing the point.

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macky3014757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

Or Metacritic for that matter,..

Remember the days when people valued games on the amount fun you personally had with them,..

I guess, it is a good thing we have some kind of compass, so we don't buy a complete shit..

But metacritic scores are not an average score, because they value (ponder) different sites differently,..so I don't know.

It is best to find some outlets from authors, that have similar taste as you, when it comes to similar genre of game.

Blaine4757d ago

Personally, reviews have absolutely no effect whether or not I'll buy a game. Hell, most of the reviews I ever watch are of games I already bought! I watch them a few days later (you know, you just bought a new game, play it like crazy for a few days--everyone does it!) just for kicks, see if the reviewer feels the same way I do.

I watch so many preview videos and trailers, and read up on so many news, I always know whether or not I'll buy a game a long time before the reviews hit anyway. And once they do hit, even if I'm still on the fence about a game, I'm so skeptical about reviews these days that they don't affect my decision at all.

bozebo4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

I don't like reviews because a game has to be bad to get a score worse than 8/10. They give nearly every game 9 or 10 for some reason. TBH, for a game to get 10/10 it has to be perfect. Even the likes of FF7, MGS and OOT should only get 9/10 (even though I couldn't describe any way in which they aren't perfect).

And what's with sports games crowding the top spots on metacritic? I understand it is just a side effect of the way they do things but in general I don't think sports games should be considered in the same way 'creative games' should be.

Also any site that only has scores out of 5 is instantly a failure, there isn't enough precision there. But anyway, the opinionated body of text itself is far more important than the score - it's the review itself that lets a consumer make a proper decision. Scores are only there so a review site can have their name on a box cover along with a clearly BS perfect 10/10 score which every damn game somehow achieves. So... yeah. Metacritic means nothing, not just user reviews but all reviews.

lelo2play4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

I haven't read any reviews for Portal 2.... because... spoilers.

Is the game only 4 hours long ?

4 hours long doesn't deserve a full price for a game... no matter how good it is.

Kran4757d ago

God no. 10 hours at least.

Those trolls are just those who hate Valve because its not Half Life 3.

KotC4756d ago

Yeah it's about 10 hrs long and I will put my bubbles in danger by saying I thought the game was a little boring. To me playing Portal 2 was kinda like the library levels in Halo CE.

wicko4756d ago

The library level was one of my favourites actually. It has absolute shit level design, as its ridiculously repetitive and flat, but fighting the flood was a lot of fun IMO, the different enemy types made that level interesting.

bozebo4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

What Kotc said. Portal 2 was far too easy and short and plain. It does certainly have good points, I lolled a lot. But the puzzles are er.. wait, it's a puzzle game? I didn't notice :/

Also, it's more like 7 hours and 3 minutes long.

- and library was excellent on Legendary mode :D so much fun.

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starchild4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

I've said it many times - user reviews on metacritic are next to worthless.

Overall Metacritic scores are not gospel either, but at least journalists have some kind of reputation to maintain. Unlike anonymous users who can write any old random crap with zero sense of responsibility or fear of consequences.

Downtown boogey4757d ago

PC users are AGAIN complaining about developers focusing on the console version (whether true or not) even though many of them won't even be paying for the game.

metsgaming4757d ago

lol the user reviews are a lot of the time more accurate of what the game really deserves. But in some cases the trolls come out in bunches. In the end im more inclined to listen to the people who actually have the game then reviewers or the trolls, which sometimes you cant tell which is which.

saladthieves4757d ago

Just a bunch of raging fanboys and people who can't complete a puzzle game, all very angry to the bone, that's all.

Just like Pozzle said, nobody cares about Metacritic user reviews.

RedSky4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

It's a protest score obviously. Most of the people giving it 1-3/10 will probably still play it and enjoy it.

Before DLC and overly frequent sequels, game releases came as major releases and expansion packs.

Sequels used to see improved graphics instead of being almost identical but with a new skin, and time wasn't wasted developing massively overpriced and generally worthless DLC content. That effort went towards an expansion pack that was actually worth playing.

Not saying Portal 2 mirrors this exactly, but it's just particularly disappointing considering how good value Valve's games used to be (Orange Box, HL2) and how they previously avoided charging for updates and were willing to release them for free (and still to some extent do).

After all, do you think they weren't massively profitable then?

If you guys acquiesce to every move the industry takes towards extracting more money from you for less, what do you think will prevent Kotick's plan of charging subscriptions for games like CoD? What do you think will stop game length from getting shorter and shorter, and unecessary sequels offering less and less content from getting more frequent?

NCAzrael4756d ago

The only time Valve has ever charged for an update or true DLC (the stupid hats/skins/gestures/etc is not true DLC) has been because Microsoft forced them to. PC releases are still free, and will probably remain that way for as long as they are in business. All this crying over "Day One DLC" and short gameplay length and lack of graphic upgrades are bullshit, plain and simple.

First, as I said, all the little dress up items don't count for shit as far as DLC goes. If they were charging for additional levels on day one, then sure, I'd be bitching right along with everyone else.

As for the length of the game, it's Portal, what did you honestly expect? I've blown through the first Portal in a handful of hours on my laptop at work on a slow afternoon. And not only is Portal 2 longer, it's also vastly improved on the variation and complexity of the gameplay. Maybe some people don't get that much out of it, but I played through Portal at least 10 times from start to finish since it was released. It appeals to me, and has high replay value. After finishing Portal 2, I can tell it's going to be the same way. And to top it off, there's a great amount of replay with the multiplayer. And thanks to the mod tools, we'll have all sorts of insane new levels to run through in a matter of months, not to mention the almost guaranteed stuff that Valve will throw at us.

And as for the bitching and whining about graphics, all I can say is get over it. I am a self professed graphics whore (I could easily blow an entire paycheck on a video card and not think twice about it) and I thought the game looked great. Source may be an old engine, but it's designed to be updated so that new titles aren't limited by old tech. The level design in Portal 2 was fantastic, the textures were superb, and the lighting was awesome. Throughout the entire game I never for even a moment thought to myself "wow, these graphics looks really dated."

Considering the fact that Valve is one of the few developers left who doesn't cater to douchebags like Kotick's vision of the future of gaming, I find it kind of sad to see so many people hurling accusations at them. Oh boo hoo, the game didn't release as early as the leaked copies and we had to PLAY GAMES to get it released earlier than the announced release time. Yeah, I would have been happy to have it release on Friday, but so what? It still released almost 12 hours early, and that's something considering how many games are constantly delayed in this industry.

Guess it doesn't matter, though. Haters are going to hate, and that's fine, 'cause Portal 2 (and Valve for that matter) can weather all the cry babies until the next big thing to hate comes out.

bozebo4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

Well. If they charged subscriptions for cod people just wouldn't play it.

You have a vote, It's called your wallet, use it (or... don't use it actually :P)

I never buy any dlc or partake in microtransactions. It isn't hard.

EA are trying to change how they operate due to financial feedback. So it must work.

Also, NCAzrael. If you look closely then yes, Valve are slowly turning the way of the devil, but it isn't as big a deal as a lot of people make it out to be :P

The one severe problem with valve games now is that they take windows cursor input instead of direct cursor input - which totally breaks any game for people who have very high mouse dpi but low in-game sens. Hence why the css competitive scene is dieing since they made the change and refuse to admit that it is a problem. (it's in portal 2 too)

The Source engine is incredible. It was designed future proof, all they've had to do since is add extra stuff, fix small issues and dial up the quality settings. A lot of people say it's outdated but they are usually idiots :P

RedSky4755d ago (Edited 4755d ago )

I'm not saying Valve is a particularly bad example, if anything it's held out longer than most other gaming companies.

But it is a slippery slope when it comes to pay models.

People pay for P2P internet gaming through Xbox Live, for example. Personally I think this is ridiculous and would never give them a cent for such a rip off.

But what's to say, now that every gaming executive can see from Microsoft's example that there is a market for this, from pushing it further? Who's to stop them charging a modest fee for multiplayer FPS access of say $3 a month then slowly ramping it up to WoW levels? After all, with enough mass advertisement, mainstream/casual gamers will obviously run like sheep to the slaughter for the next "insert milked franchise here".

Sure they'll justify it with additional content but as now with DLCs, they'll be nowhere near worth the cost.

Xof4756d ago

I don't get why low metacritic scores always make people blame some small minority for "spamming" votes and skewing the statistic.

If the average rating is a 6 or a 7 or whatever... that's the average rating. The more you disagree with that, the more of an outlier YOU are. It's profoundly silly to assume you represent the majority and everyone who disagrees with you the minority when there's a slew of objective data pointing in the opposite direction.

ReBurn4756d ago

Normally that's the case. Especially when the data is objective. But Metacritic user scores are not objective. They're entirely subjective and lack any sort of control mechanism.

The majority of user ratings for every version seem to be either 9's and 10's or 1's and 0's with the odd average number mixed in. To me that says most people aren't being objective.

The only objective way to look at is to assume that none of the reviews are objective and not worry about them.

Xof4756d ago

@reburn: the data IS objective, isn't it? The only way it wouldn't be would be if single individuals could vote dozens or hundreds of times. Yes, the scores are subjective, but when dealing with opinion, EVERYTHING is subjective.

These scores aren't supposed to indicate the quality of a given product so much as the "reception" of a given product--it's a measure of how the consumers, in general, feel.

ReBurn4756d ago

The user metascore is a joke. It's almost as if the lower the user score is the better the game. I don't understand why every forum has to be a battlefield in some contrived video game war.

TheMrMadzen4756d ago

It's probably butt-hurt Xbox gamers, who didn't get Steam support

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Emilio_Estevez4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

96,95,96 for actual scores....Plenty of trolls in the user section though. Clearly a lot of buthurt crybabies there.

kingdavid4757d ago

I just dont understand what there is to be so butthurt about.

Chances are theyll see some half life at e3 so whats the problem? This game is great.

I understood L4d2 because it released so close to l4d1 but this is completely different..

Saladfax4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

Some people were upset about the Potato Sack deal on Steam, calling it greed when all it really did was promote indie devs like crazy.

Some people are upset about silly and trivial Day One DLC. It's honestly such vestigial content that only really serious collectors or enthusiasts will snag it. It adds nothing to the overall appeal to a massively great game, but for some reason people who won't buy it like to complain that it exists.

So yeah, I have a bit of a, "Oh c'mon," reaction to them padding profits like that, but it really isn't any different than costumes in LittleBigPlanet or skins in League of Legends.

Honestly, microtransactions in a larger capacity in gaming (as long consumers don't let it go overboard) are a really good idea. It allows users to tailor the experience to their preferences while getting proper feedback to developers regarding what the players like. It even potentially lowers the base price (see League of Legends = free).

Of course, unbalancing multi-player or changing facets of the core game is going too far, but even some of the micro-expansions for games like Dragon Age or Mass Effect don't really alter things too drastically. Paying for them isn't necessary to enjoy the experience of the game.

TL;DR: The game is really good (just finished it). People are whining for stupid reasons. Because they're stupid.

bozebo4756d ago (Edited 4756d ago )

Well, LoL is a free game apart from skins/boosts/other way to get runes. So they are entirely justified in following a microtransactions model.

Portal 2 is a fully priced game that has practically no play time if you compare it to other fully priced games.

I would hardly count skins as day 1 dlc though :P So yeah people are overreacting.

If it was something like a pack of levels, outrage would be justified. Especially if the content physically exists in software form on a hardware disk (in my opinion, that legally means you already own the content...). So even with skins and emotes they are storing the software on your hardware along with the rest of the content which you paid for. Which either means that legally you are stealing or valve are stealing... But obviously there is a logistical reason why it must be that way - otherwise only people who bought skins/emotes would see them and there would be no point in buying them (because they wouldn't be able to show off the cheap e-peen that they want to justify their purchase of).

Going back to things like LoL - having a skin shows you are more dedicated to that character (making the opponents think of you as more of a challenge, even if subconsciously) and that you support riot games - it's different for a free game .

Lone4755d ago

Potato sack deal, pure head-up-the-*** nonsense on the part of the complainers. You can't really ***** about something that is/was entirely voluntary. Nobody had to buy that incredibly cheap bundle of quality indies, or play the games if they had them already. We all knew the release date and Valve stuck by their word about an early release time. Nobody got stiffed and we played early. Win-win from every angle. In some cases it seemed like people were replacing the simple rules of the offer with rumors; befriending this or that person on Steam, having so many potato's got you it earlier, etc...just stupid. Valve is not a stupid or devious company, they'd have explained it different if the rules had been.

@Bozebo;

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Portal 2 is a fully priced game that has practically no play time if you compare it to other fully priced games."

This makes no sense as a response to anything in the thread and between it and your other comment I get the impression you didn't even play the game. It's 8 hours on average and most non-RPG releases fall into that range. And that doesn't even count the unique co-op that nearly doubles the play time or community additions. Whatever the case it's a mistake to value a game by dollar per hour.

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Ahasverus4757d ago (Edited 4757d ago )

Wahahah they are Activision guys trying to not let gamers real worthy FPS with true content :P

Nah jk; and PC gamers ask why they are considered a joke.
What would they gain if the best game of the year (yet) doesn't sell? I'll answer: more generic games. Portal NEEDS to sell.

fluffydelusions4757d ago

I just popped it in to my PS3 :)

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Steam's highest-rated game is now less than a dollar in the Spring Sale

Jack writes: "Yet again browsing the latest offers in the Steam Spring Sale has led us to track down the very best. In terms of price to quality, we don’t think that it gets much better than this. Portal 2 is now less than a dollar, and if you haven’t got it already, now is the time to pick it up."

TheEroica38d ago

Portal deserves to be one of steams highest rated games... It's almost tetris levels of perfect game design.

TheEnigma31338d ago

It's a great game, but highly overrated. But for $1, it's an amazon deal.

Friendlygamer38d ago

Valve should bring their games to ps5

Kados38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Gotta love Steam. Just got Portal 2 for .97 cents CAD. Should have been $1.29, selected the bundle with Portal 1 and 2, which gets a 25% discount, already have Portal 1, so it removes the cost of that, and still applies the full 25% bundle discount to Portal 2. 90% + 25% discount.

Friendlygamer37d ago

That's sweet, I've been thinking about building a modest pc to play some oldies

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All the Essential Video Games Everyone Needs To Play At Least Once

Given the medium's wild diversity, this primer of the essential video games everyone should try is a good place to start.

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thorstein45d ago

.... from the 2000s (mostly).

shinoff218345d ago

I can't fk with this list. They missed on alot of games probably before the writers times. Also I know people loved some portal but I was never a fan.

Cacabunga45d ago

Tomb Raider 1
Driver 1
Abe’s Odyssey
FF6
King of Fighters 94
Mortal Kombat OG
LINK 2 the past
Street Fighter 2
Resident Evil 1

Inverno45d ago

Infinite but not the first two games? Witcher 3 but not the first two games?? GTA V but not literally any of the games before it??? Portal 2 but not the first? Also if you're going to play Shadow of The Colossus play the remaster and not the remake. Can't say I disagree with the list but my man it's all over the place.

Name Last Name45d ago

I mean some sequels are objectively better and you don’t need to play the whole series.

Inverno45d ago

But most of these games have a story to follow, sure you can catch up with a YouTube vid but where's the fun in that?

LucasRuinedChildhood45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

A list like this isn't telling you not to play the previous games if you want to. It's just giving you legendary games to play.

But tbh, you don't always have to force yourself to play every entry in a franchise to get to the better ones.

- The vast majority of Witcher 3 players never played the first 2 and had a great time. The first 2 games aren't in the same league.
- The GTA games are self-contained with the odd fun reference. You can easily jump into any of them.
- The Shadow Of The Colossus remake looks and controls better than the original (plus it has a 60fps option while the remaster is just 30fps). New players will enjoy it more.
- Portal 2 is a lot better than Portal 1 and takes the concept much further gameplay-wise. Storywise, Portal 1 is fairly light too. Not that you shouldn't play it but realistically ... you'd love Portal 2 whether you play it or not (at lot of Portal 2 players have never played 1).

Bioshock 1 is the only one I agree with you on simply because it's one the best games of all time and arguably better than Infinite. No other setting like Rapture.

Looking at the list, I'd recommend playing Uncharted 1 before 2 but no doubt, 2 is the legendary one you have to play.

Inverno45d ago

I get it, but that's just my opinion on his opinion. I just think that before you play a sequel you should still play what came before it. Maybe it's just me but i find it fascinating playing through the first game in a series and seeing how it has evolved through its sequels. Like I said I don't disagree with the list, other than SoTC which I strongly believe the remaster of the original should be played above the remake.

AuraAbjure45d ago

Awesome list! Hot take on Fear (and it's hard af expansion Persaus Mandate!) Bioshock Infinite is stellar, so is the Witcher 3 and you nailed it by having Ocarina of Time. So many fantastic games! Gotta play 'em all! Next one on my list is Prey after I beat Dead Space 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

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The story behind Portal: Revolution — A fan-made prequel to Portal 2

Chris Brandrick, writing for overkill, speaks to Stefan Heinz, the lead developer on Portal: Revolution, a new fan-made campaign prequel to Portal 2.

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StalinSupremacy97d ago (Edited 97d ago )

valve suck so much at making games now, opting just to smaug on top of an enormous pile of money,
that fans got so desperate that they have to make their own games.
this industry is fucking over.