RedDragan4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

That part that interested me the most was cross-platform play and cross-platform multiplayer.

Perhaps now there is scope to use the PS3 USB ports for mouse and keyboard.

I like that I can buy the PS3 version for comfort on the sofa, and then go on my PC and play the PC version for a graphics upgrade if I feel like it. I assume I can carry on from my save point using Steam Cloud Saves?

I like the sound of this!

plb4762d ago

Yes it says you can continue on with Steam cloud saves. Great news because I will rotate between PS3/PC to play this game.

RedDragan4762d ago

I missed that trying to get in first on the comments lol... cheers for clearing it up. Bubbles! :)

Biggest4762d ago

This is incredible news. Here's to hoping for more PS3 titles from Gabe's crew.

evrfighter4762d ago

Lol I believe some fools owe me an apology. They really thought they were getting steam in all its glory and woldnt leave me alone about in pm.

hamburger1234762d ago

You gotta love Valve.

First free Portal 1 and now free Portal 2 with PS3 copy.

Persistantthug4762d ago

everfighter in a PM a few months ago said:

"how does your response change anything I just said? Add the ability to update games on the fly and that's pretty much just steamworks.

I've known about steamworks since before steamworks was released on the pc. you really have too much faith in what you THINK you're getting.

again you're not getting steam. You're not getting crossgame chat, a friends list, or the ability to join friends ingame. That's steam, not steamworks. I should know I joined steam when it was released back in 2003. "

MmaFan-Qc4762d ago

after that, i wonder if some peoples will still buy the 360 version(wich this thime is seriously inferior)?

Therealspy034762d ago

The version isn't inferior...the deal is inferior. if you only own a 360, you're still getting a great game.

why does everyone always have to make this into a competition?

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juggulator4762d ago

I heard something about being able to access user mods on the PS3. They mentioned it on Qore. Anybody know anything about that?

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zeeshan4762d ago

Sooo that's 3 games for the price of one??? WOW!! Thanks Valve!

pixelsword4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

Ist gut, ya?

At any rate, sounds sweet. If they get the graphics tight (and most likely they will) I guess the PS3 version will be the one to get.

DarkTower8054762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

Great news. This could very well be the first step in eliminating the fanboy mentality and joining all gamers together. It could introduce some PS3 gamers to PC gaming that otherwise wouldn't have done so and vice versa.

Congrats to Valve and Sony for making this happen. Personally, I only game on my PS3, but if this type of partnership continues I might upgrade my PC in the future so I can play games on it.

Now Valve, when are you going to bring L4D to the PS3?

pangitkqb4762d ago

Freakin awesome. Valve desire es some serious credit. Not only did hey give me Portal for free, they are now giving me a copy of Portal 2 for my PC and MacBook Pro for free as well...and making them all work together nicely.

Thanks, Valve :)

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RedDead4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

Why not connect your pc to the room with the sofa? Comfort and quality, the best of both worlds. The only problem is a pc in the middle of the living room is not exactly the best looking thing in the world so the common wife doesn't want it there.

guitar_nerd_234762d ago

Thats why nerdy girls are the best. :D

RedDragan4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

I already have but thought I would make the first comment a little more general gamer friendly. I have a solution for big box in the room effect though, it is connected to a monitor as the TV so anyone can use it the same time as I play. She facebooks in the the corner, I burn rubber on the DiRT and gravel! XD

40" HDTV win! :)

This is still amazing news though! And if I ever buy a game that is on steam and steamworks, I might as well buy the PS3 version now!! I never thought I would ever say that! LOL!

BeOneWithTheGun4762d ago

Not just that but i have a teenage daughter. She lives on thw home computer. Telling her that ahe has to sit and watch dad play vids, hogging both the tv and computer while my ps3 sat un-used.....well, life would not be pleasant.

kramun4762d ago

You have wireless graphic solutions now as well. Before long all graphics cards will have wireless connections, you could have your pc in another room, you won't even need it near the tv.

pixelsword4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

No, I keep the computer out of my room, "teh pr0ns" might get me.

Me: *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap*

Girlfriend: ? HEY! I'm right here!

Me: Oh! Good! Can you pass "teh lotions"?

The moral of the story is that the pr0ns is dangerous because you will like the pr0ns because teh pr0ns will do things your girlfriend won't do... like shut up.

:D

*gets choked out by girlfriend when she reds dlfkm

MaxXAttaxX4762d ago

...if you live alone.

Consoles just make things more convinient in a living room set.

Blad3star4762d ago

Nerdy girls are freaky - I once had this one nerdy girl who wanted me to dress as Spoke from Star Trek and proform the cleveland steamer on her.

True Story Bro.

Dac2u4762d ago

Just do what I did, run a 25 foot HDMI cable under the carpet and a USB cable through the wall to a USB hub and attach a keyboard, mouse and controller.

I've been playing Super Meat Boy that way, on-and-off, for the last couple of weeks. You really need comfort when playing that frustrating game.

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callahan094762d ago

Astounding. Simply amazing. I love you Valve/Steam.

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Simon_Brezhnev4762d ago

well im buying this on PC then i hate FPS on PS3.

DOMination4762d ago

just figured I'd save you some money... buy the ps3 version which comes with a steamplay code to play on pc/mac. then trade in the ps3 version?

MaxXAttaxX4762d ago

Portal is not an FPS/shooter. It doesn't play like one.

distorted_reality4762d ago

DOMination - you won't be able to trade it in (unless you deactivate it somehow, which would delete the games from your PC/MAC Steam Games Lists anyway).

With your PSN being tied to your pre-existing Steam account (or a new one if you prefer), Valve has done the sneaky by basically shutting down the ability to trade-in this game on PS3.

Anyone familiar with Steam on the PC will know that you can't trade in a Steam based game, even if it's a physical copy.

The whole "3 games in 1" tagline is great for sales - until people actually realize that the 3 games are tied to the same Steam account and that you can't get rid of them if you end up not liking the game, and you can't give a copy to your friend.

ATiElite4762d ago

What are you not technically capable of playing on your PC from your couch?

I PC Game on the Big Screen, sitting on my couch, while my PC is in another room. There's a ton of tech for this and most was out before wireless console controllers.

That whole "I can't PC Game from the couch" rhetoric really only makes you sound stupid when there are many ways to PC Game wirelessly from the couch. And if you say "wireless KB/M is not comfortable" well that's an even more moronic comment that would show you to ZERO clue about PC tech.

BloodyNapkin4762d ago

It is not about tech. Tell me how am i comfortably going to use a keyboard/mouse reclined in my lazy boy? Sure you can still use controllers, but it would just be easier to use the console. If you are not balls deeps into graphics like some people.

kramun4762d ago

'Sure you can still use controllers'

You just answered your own question. You CAN use controllers, maybe your lazy boy is making you lazy in the head. Regardless, your argument is pretty stupid.

Biggest4762d ago

It's great that you can play your PC games with a larger screen. That isn't an issue. To say that someone favoring a controller to kb/m is making a moronic comment is moronic. I don't even enjoy using a kb/m at the actual computer desk. It just isn't my thing. I had to map my 360 controller to Mass Effect 2. It sucked, but not as much as kb/m does for me. I just don't like it. It is uncomfortable to me. There is no way that a PC will take the place of a PS3 at the television for me. Now that games like Portal will give me two games for the price of one, PS3 exclusives aren't the only reason for that.

StoneyYoshi4762d ago

@ kramun

yeah he may have answered his own question but what would be the point of bringing your pc into the livingroom to hook up to your tv if you arent gonna use the keyboard and mouse? other than the slight graphic difference there would be no point in doing that if you are gonna use a controller. like he said. it would just be easier to use the console that is already hooked up to the tv.

he is just avoiding moving and hooking stuff up for maybe only a few games on his pc.

AKS4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

@ATiElite I've already had this debate a few times here. I have all 3 consoles and my PC hooked up to a pretty sweet Panasonic plasma/ Marantz receiver/ Polk Audio VM series 7.1 surround system. Works beautifully, but evidently some just can't seem to wrap their mind around the idea. I just set my wireless kb/m on a tray while I'm on my couch and go to town via Steam in 7.1 and 1080p/ 60 fps. My receiver handles switching via HDMI at the press of a button. It was so easy to set up.

MaxXAttaxX4762d ago

PC fanboys are never going to convince console gamers.
Give it a rest. No one cares!

kevnb4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

whats the whole point of this argument? We all know the pc version runs and looks alot better... you cant deny it. But some people just want the simplicity that a console brings. There is no real argument against pc other than it requires more thought and work. That being said, I dont care if you want mcdonalds, im still going to have steak. And I dont care if a big mac costs less than what I consider to be a good meal.

Zeevious4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

Innovative wireless keyboard combinations for console and PC use are now cheap and work very well...full size or micro sized.

Here are two favorites - $29 & $35

DB-Tech Super Slim (Complete with Windows Media button for MCE users)
http://www.amazon.com/Light...

...and my favorite for the PS3
Mini Wireless Bluetooth Touchpad Backlit Keyboard
http://www.amazon.com/Mini-...
(with laser pointer...I mean if you have all that, why not throw in a laser pointer -- It even has a single CTRL_ALT_DEL for Windows users!)

Both include a wireless and Bluetooth mini-adapter that stores in the keyboard and the mini model has a built-in Lithium-ion battery that lasts 700 hours! (or 70 if that's a typo, I've never tested mine to 700 hours of typing)

If you want to use your PC on your HDTV, you have lots of choices to be comfortable, sit back, relax, and enjoy your PC on your flatscreen TV in your underwear -- I believe it's a basic human right.

(bra optional)

kikizoo4762d ago

I'm playing my living room pc too, but most of the time : my ps3, why ? because most of the greatest games (and not only fps) are on ps3, because it's faster to play, easier to play with friends (not many pc player this days), you don't have to deal with uggly bugs (no sound in the middle of dead space, withtout solutions)...but it's cool to have both if you can have both.

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metsgaming4762d ago

if you get an achievment on the pc version and save it to the cloud and start up again on the ps3, will that trophy unlock?

saladthieves4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

That's a very good question, because this is the first time where you'll be able to unlock achievements that are not directly related to the PS3's trophies if you are playing the game on PC.

My guess is both lists of trophies in the game would have to be compared if you boot up your PS3. They will either unlock by popping up; could be during the game, or simply automatically unlock in the background.

Still, let's see what they have to say about this.

saladthieves4762d ago

And SO IT BEGINS! This looks so awesome..I can't wait to play Portal 2!

It's a shame that the Xbox 360 fanbase doesn't get any single piece of this. If only Microsoft wasn't stubborn enough to refuse this deal.

montyburns0004762d ago

lol, how it it stopping me from using steam on my PC or actually getting the ps3 version for my... PS3?!

do you think the just because some people own a 360 they're not allowed to own a gaming rig or a ps3? i guess thats the mentality for kids or broke fools that can't afford the best of today's gaming.

saladthieves4762d ago

On the contrary, the people playing this game on the 360 get to have fun as well. What I mean is those using the PS3 version have a chance of playing with the Steam users WITHOUT the need of a PC.

This point has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that Xbox 360 owners can't get a taste of Steam. Of course they can, on the PC!

Jamegohanssj54762d ago

Oh wow I thought I would be able to download games like GTA Vice City and such via steam :(. But wait we don't have to own portal 2 to link our ps3 to our steam account do we? We can just do it via the steam powered engine too?

TGSI

AyeGee4762d ago

Word.. this shit sounds so awesome. I wasn't thinking about picking up Portal 2, but this just makes the price that much sweeter. I think i might get it now haha.

Persistantthug4762d ago

That's directly from the Valve-Horses mouth.

If anyone has a problem with STEAM being on the PS3, please go take it up with Valve.

Thank you.

https://support.steampowere...

WitWolfy4762d ago

For one im glad its like alternative to the out dated XMB.. And I for one wonder where those bozos are now that kept on arguing saying "STEAM coming to PS3 ... not STEAMWORKS!"

Idiots

likedamaster4762d ago

Definitely getting the ps3 version.

Will-UK4762d ago

Wow this is great i really hope more steam games allow this kind of cross syncing and play.

Kleptic4762d ago

The PS3 has always been open for 3rd party mouse and keyboard support...its just not utilized very often...

UT3 did it perfectly fine, but they mixed servers so that only M/K users could play each other on official servers (because of the obvious advantage), but let custom server admins set that preference to whatever they wanted...

Not sure on Portal 2 yet, never saw it confirmed...but Sony would have no problem with it, if Valve chooses to do it...

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CrzyFooL4762d ago

Every PS3 game should have these features if there is a PC version of it on Steam. EVERY GAME.

RedDragan4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

It looks like that is the case doesn't it. Very interesting development.

This is most useful for those who own both a PC and PS3.

I am guessing here that PS3 exclusives will not feature on the PS3 Steam environment but like you say, if it is on Steam PC as well then we get that. What a bonus!

Edit: Why would someone disagree with that? It is written there in the article lol...

Kleptic4762d ago

its all up to the publishers...

obviously Sony isn't going to be involved with their own PS3 games, as they will not have a steam counterpart...but 3rd party publishers pushing multiplatform games that are partner'd with steam...could easily use it if they wanted...

just not sure what the real advantages are for any publisher/developer outside of EA/Valve...

Godmars2904762d ago

A large part of it has to do with the bias the console has suffered. Or who remembers that PC mods can be used on the PS3 version of UT3 once converted? This site:

http://www.ut3mod.com/

Ducky4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

I don't think that'd happen.

Valve does it because they're the publisher and steam is their own platform.
The ps3/pc tie-in isn't entirely benign... valve does a lot of things to get people to install steam, and this is another one of them...

... and once it's installed, you're just another victim for them to hook with their sales. =(

Kleptic4762d ago

Well its more complicated than that...

Ea is the publisher of Portal 2 outside of steam...so the version you buy in order to play it on PS3 (and therefor connect to your steam account, etc.) is published by EA...EA could easily incorporate this type of marketing into other titles they create, even those not developed by Valve...

and with EA talking about how 'great' things are with Sony and the PS3 at last years E3...more of this type of thing could definitely be coming...I just kind of doubt any other publishers would get invovled...

a_bro4762d ago

still part of steam.

even sony says it:

"Portal 2 for PlayStation 3 is the first title to support Steam on a console. Specifically, that means it offers cross-platform matchmaking, gameplay, friends, chat, and achievements, all powered by Steam. Steam on the PS3 also saves co-op game progress and single player saved games to the Steam Cloud, enabling players to pick up where they left off on any PlayStation 3."

I know what you're trying to say that its not the DD page of Steam's PC games. everyone knows thats not coming to PS3, that would be idiocy by the person who thinks thats whats going to happen, when they know that the PS3 is not a PC.

Persistantthug4762d ago

It is entirely possible for the game to be Sold by the PS3's Steam to PS3 users.

And yes, I know it "seems" like it might be a conflict of interest, but that's only until you remember that Netflix, Vudu, Hulu, VidZone, Mubi, ABC iview, LoveFilm, and all of the other video services populate the PSN as well, in spite of Sony's own Video store.

Kleptic4762d ago

^^agreed...

that is where it gets so confusing...the PSN has its OWN services to mimik pretty much any 3rd party portals available...even in the PSN video store you see massive banners saying 'watch it before Netflix', etc...then you have netflix banners everywhere saying try it free for a month, then vudu ads, hulu plus ads, etc...

so Sony may not be that against opening up steam even further for the PSN...even if it involves demo's and content for upcoming games...the PSN is a free service, and the marketing team only cares that you have the account...not necessarily how much you are using it or what for...so an alternative to content over the PS store is a lot more realistic than what MS does with XBL marketplace...

SmokeyMcBear4762d ago

no one thought steam on pc would mean downloading the steam library to their ps3. Parden my ignorance, but was does steam offer, besides the store, offer on PC, that is not going to be offered on PS3. I seriously don't know cuz I havent used steam in a couple of years.

Ducky4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

The web browser, screenshot tool... and that's about it I think. Or well, the only one that would be useful on a console.

Well, that, and I think the console version is limited to only work on Portal2?
Whereas on PC, you can just enable the steam overlay on almost any game and you've got the entire feature-set.
To many, that's what steam means. The ability to have a bunch of features carried across all games.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4762d ago (Edited 4762d ago )

This is the real deal.

Thanks Sony and Valve.

More Valve games on PS3 is guaranteed and probably using similar features.

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Hmm, not sure I agree with that. The recommendations I get are usually pretty good, but then again I have pretty large library of games on Steam and hundreds of them in my wish list, along with lots of curators I follow for it to build recommendations off of. On occasion it will throw me a random FIFA game or something I've never bought or shown interest in, but mostly its decent IMO.

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Skul is a metroidvania ? It’s on PS+ soon I’ll check it out. If it’s good I’ll buy a copy physically if they have one

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AdonisIsBeast35d ago

Who cares as long as it’s optional

phoenixwing35d ago

paying to edit your character is kind of crap as far as microtransactions go

Xristo35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I hate any/all MTX in a paid game (especially a full-price game)... but know that you can spend in-game currency (RC), which you get from killing mobs, to completely remake your character.

phoenixwing35d ago

@xRisto how much did it change the gameplay though? Changing your character would have probably not cost any rc if they weren't hellbent on getting money by making it inconvenient

koga8835d ago

You can literally edit your character using in-game gold, dropped from monsters or obtained from selling items, as soon as you reach the first main town. You can even use Rift Crystals obtained from other people using your pawn or dropped from monsters to change your entire character or Pawn. It's paying to avoid doing something that is literally in the game.

PRIMORDUS35d ago

They are lucky there using Denuvo or their game and all future DLC etc. would be for free. 🤣

phoenixwing35d ago

@koga you completely missed the point i was making but go ahead and act like i'm being the wrong one

lucian22934d ago

you can pay ingame currency though; why are ya so derp

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Crows9035d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Capcom cares quite a bit....hence why it was kept from reviewers and initial impressions.

As far as optional...yeah...ALL mtx are optional. That's not the problem. The miss the mark entirely.

Heck buying the game is "optional" too.

The fact that they were hiding this is scummy as hell. I was going to buy this day 1 or day 3. Now I'm reconsidering the purchase entirely because as the reviews point out...there are certain design decisions which have not changed but funnily enough seem to be remedied by these mtx...

In other words they may have left certain features in the game in order to monetize them. So the mtx affected the development of the game in a negative way.

garos8235d ago

I'm certainly not buying it anymore. It has affected at least one sale from me. I'll pick it up second hand

peppeaccardo35d ago

Very close to buy the game at a discounted price but not anymore.
Bad business practice and hence they do not get my support/money !

warriorcase35d ago

It wasn't kept fromreviewers s though. Twitter reviewers are saying there was mention of mtx's in the reviewers guide

-Foxtrot35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

STOP. USING. THAT. SHITTY. EXCUSE

God damn man

Look how DLC changed after Oblivions horse armour, within 10 years most developers took the absolute p***. What was said then aswell? “It’s only optional who cares?” Now look where we all are.

There’s no half measures with these things, when will people realise this.

jwillj2k435d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Oh it’s gonna get worse. Ng+ locked behind mtx, “cool downs” preventing you from playing for more than 3 hours at a time unless u pay the mtx for unlimited access, main campaign bosses, in-game music, certain dialog, difficulty modes, certain npc interactions, all locked behind mtx, etc.. etc. gonna end up being like the NBA 2k games eventually paying for cross overs and shit… They gon get mid-evil on our asses.

OMGitzThatGuy35d ago

I can guarantee most of the items you can buy with mtx and ingame currency wouldn’t exist in ANY paid form if the main goal wasn't monetization. If the goal is to give idiots who are willing to pay for basic game features as mtx a way to do things faster then the only ones the mtx hurt are the non paying players as you are now locking features behind a grind that you chose to put in the game that you are essentially admitting to creating some type of time sink. I have never heard of a game locking basic character editing behind a ingame paywall, it’s usually just an option.

Chard35d ago

Takes two to tango though - unfortunately people buy this garbage which incentivises the behaviour. It's an inevitable outcome of the profit motive

thorstein35d ago

@Mario

Yes. And so are resurrection "Wakestones." You can find them but they're rare.

victorMaje35d ago

Buying the game is now very optional too. If you don’t know why then you don’t get it.

shinoff218335d ago

Because it's only a door way. That's why we care. We've already seen some shit since Mtx was introduced.

Rimeskeem35d ago

1. DD2 is an ARPG with 8 different playable classes
2. There is no multiplayer aspect to the game
3. You can only have one character (have to pay for more)
4. You cannot delete the character unless you go into the game files
5. The game is $70 dollars upfront

Having to pay for more character slots in a game that *features* 8 playable classes is pretty much not optional for an ARPG.

Angyobangyo35d ago

Judging from steam reviews, gamers care. Not plastic gamers. Why didn’t Itsuno mention such MTX would be available in-game? Why weren’t the MTXs there for review copies?

Kiryu199235d ago

Who cares is how all this started. The many many excuses. Please keep defending these greedy publishers and unfair tactics. We be gamers are the problem

Horse armor

$10 online passes if buying a used copy

Cheat codes gone and are replaced by micro transactions

Unlocking stuff by playing games behind micro transactions and XP boosters

It’s only cosmetic

No one is being forced to spend even though publishers are literally making their games more grindy to force people to play

Full priced games have mobile game type micro transactions

$70 priced games because higher development costs while making record profits and laying off record number of employees

And to play the game early pay us extra $20-30 on top of full price

Release games now and promise to maybe fix them later only to abandon the game

Day one patches that make the games worst

If it’s your favorite game defend the publisher if it’s not hate on another publisher for similar content

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kenpachi35d ago

Must have picked up some EA crew to put this in the game

robtion35d ago

Yeah these are really bad ones. Directly impacting gameplay too. Super scummy move. I hope nobody buys them.

CrimsonWing6935d ago

Yet Helldivers 2 gets a pass? Y’know a GotY contender by the name of RE4 had them and so does Devil May Cry V. The funny thing is I enjoyed both of those games thoroughly without having to buy a single microtransaction.

What I do consider a valid complaint is not being able to start a new game or being able to edit your character. That’s kind of a seriously baffling decision, but then I think how I played Dragon’s Dogma 1 and I never edited my character and I just did a 100% playthrough on a single file and didn’t start a NG since. So, I don’t think these are really going to impact me, but I can see how it will others.

Crows9035d ago

Helldivers 2 is a live service game where everything is obtainable in game with incredible ease.

Not sure about re4 or DMC but nobody is giving anyone a pass ...this article is about dragons dogma 2...not those games.

What is valid are in game features made to supposedly force you to think carefully only to have a surprise online store offer solutions to built in problems for more money.

Goosejuice35d ago

Those same things they are selling can be found Ingame as well. U can buy the character editor through merchants with gold. Don't get me wrong..I dislike these mtx they are doing but you don't need to buy them to be able to get them.

CrimsonWing6935d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Oh my bad, I can’t bring up games with microtransactions that nobody had a sh*t fit over. My mistake.

I love how people move the goalpost.

Crows9035d ago

@goose
@crimson

All mtx sucks. I'd rather helldiver's not have them because it makes me wonder if the rate at which you collect materials. That said. The games features are all fully enjoyable and aren't affected by the mtx.

That's not the case with dragons dogma 2...they left in place features that are supposedly part of the challenge of the game only to let you buy your way out very conveniently. I didn't look through all of them but I've heard some are rare but can be purchased with more money now. Even more so in a game about managing weight load there's a tent, I believe, that you can pay more money for that weighs less than your typical tent...not all sure on all the mtx and I'm aware that you can purchase many through in game vendor but they're incredibly useful mtx that are obtained much more slowly in game...or even a limited amount of them.

Instead is selling fast travel...just let us don't for free....or instead of selling cosmetic changes...how about letting us do it for free...

Nothing in helldivers comes close to this abomination

Angyobangyo35d ago

One is a single player game and one is a live service game. One is $40 vs$70. And most importantly, one game is there to spread democracy.

Ironmike34d ago

It's not incredibly easy for certain things in helldivers though u still have grind quite bit but u ate correct in saying u can eventually get enough medals to purchase stuff

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Moegooner35d ago

Read your comment again and maybe, just maybe you might realise how dumb it was.

CrimsonWing6935d ago (Edited 35d ago )

What was dumb about it? That I pointed out the hypocrisy?

garos8235d ago

It was extremely scummy that capcom hid this from reviewers. I have no doubt this game is good but these type of microtransactions don't sit well with me. They've lost a sale from me

Lionsguard35d ago

I was going to pay full price to support this game because I've been waiting for it for forever but I think I'll wait until I get it for free from Epic or a Humblebundle monthly.

Redemption-6435d ago

I am not defending Capcom, as I am not a fan of MTX in single player games. I do however belive they were open to reviewers about having MTX in their game. The reviewers just decided to leave that part out. Which is very disingenuous. There are some companies that get away with these things. Image if this was done by EA, Ubisoft, or even Activision? I am positive those defending Capcom, would have had their pitchforks ready if the companies listed above did this

anast35d ago

That's why reviewers can't be trusted. In fact, they are not reviewers at all. They get free codes to talk about stuff they don't understand nor care about.

Sanctusone35d ago

I mean it was pretty obvious to anyone with eyes...one of the items you get from deluxe edition was in game items.
1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)
Which honestly I figured they kept a similar mtx system like DMC5 and the optional red orbs.

Lionsguard35d ago

1500 Rift Crystals doesn't mean anything. The first game had Rift crystals too, you just earned them by people hiring your Pawn and you get it from certain quests.

anast34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

A reviewer's job is to point out the obvious of a product as though they were the consumer. This means reviewers, to do their actual job, would need to review the complete game: the edition they are reviewing, how they got the game, technical aspects, story, and monetization scheme. Since, it is obvious that MT's are a part of the game, it would need to be reviewed. This way people can be informed, so they can decide if they want to play this style of game/monetization scheme.

For example, AC Origins was bad with Mt's. I had to farm side missions or pay to advance the story. This was after I already did close to 25 or more side missions. While I was grinding there were constant reminders that I could pay to ease the grind. I would have never bought the game if it were reviewed properly.

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