"George "Geohot" Hotz wanted to crack the PS3—so he did, and infuriated Sony. He's become a target, globetrotter, and spectacle. But before? He was little tech-inept deviant." -Sam Biddle
A feature released by The New Yorker on George Hotz aka GeoHot, has revealed that the renowned hacker has been working together with Sony to improve their security measures.
Definitely, companies and even the government have been doing it forever, I'm just surprised to see that Sony actually got GeoHot on board. Wonder what sum of money he was offered :D
It's kinda like if the FBI were to hire the 'Bare-foot bandit'
EDIT:
A disagree? why?
Sony/Geohot = authority/notorious-evader = good hiring
FBI/notorious-evader = no good, why?
wasn't he banned from Sony products? it's hard for me to believe this
I can see this kid selling the security codes to someone. He just doesn't seem trustworthy although he'd make more money with SONY in the long run.
Well this is what Sony should have done in the first place instead of crying about how he was the one responsible for the PS3 being hacked.
It would have saved them a LOT of scrutiny and damage done by other hackers.
What actual crime did he commit? The guy is smart and is better off helping companies like Sony than being in jail.. save jailspace for the real criminals like rapists, murderers and bankers.
"This guy is a CRIMINAL. He should not be getting
a job, he should be in jail."
Yes, put him in jail so he can leech our tax money in food/lodging. Waaay better idea than making him a productive part of society by helping Sony catch OTHER criminals.
s/
How about STEALING one month of psn from MILLIONS of paying customers? How about the fact the he caused FEATURES from PS3 to be removed because he ILLEGALLY HACKED the system? The world could be BETTER without him. He does nothing for society but make it worse. That to me is the definition of a criminal and he belongs in jail just like every other criminal.
@logic
So commit a crime and get a job?
That's how things work. And here I've been trying to be a model citizen and live an honest life.
Who knew all I had to do was rob, steal and cheat to be rewarded with being a productive part of society.
Thanks for the advice Logic.
"Who knew all I had to do was rob, steal and cheat to be rewarded with being a productive part of society."
Anyone idiot can rob, steal, and cheat...your only rewarded if your really good at it ;)
Ever heard of Frank Abagnale?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
He hasn't been convicted of any crime by a court of law so legally speaking he is not a criminal.
"How about STEALING one month of psn from MILLIONS of paying customers?"
I know right, it's not like PSN is free or anything. To make it worse we were given free games as a result. What a total bastard.
"You must be one of those conservative flop4brains."
Why do you say that? Because I say that people who commit crimes deserve just punishment for it? That is how the system is SUPPOSED to work. If it worked the way people are saying (oh just give that criminal a job, that will teach him) then EVERYONE would commit crimes and the world would go into chaos! Stop defending this guy. He doesnt deserve it. He is scum and he has way more than he deserves.
"Jealousy?"
Why would I be jealous of some skinny punk? At least I have my integrity and moral compass intact. I dont have to steal from people to get ahead in the world. That makes be BETTER than him. Therefore, I have no reason to be jealous of him.
A criminal for what? Writing software/getting around "security" of a device he owns and bought? GTFO.
about the 'stealing one month off psn'
Geohotz was nothing to do with the network hack he just jailbroke the ps3....
happened way before...
Lol this article goes to show just how biased and stupid some people on this site are. The guy isn't a criminal.. he was never found guilty of committing a crime and by law that means he isn't a criminal.
You can take your biased attitude either way you want.. you could say he was promoting piracy and cost Sony a lot of money or you could say he was just tinkering around with a piece of hardware he bought but facts are facts and the fact here is he isn't a criminal.
@FlashXIII, a settlement usually means the other party is guilty; in this case, it's GeoHotz.
The fact that he spent money elsewhere with his donation money while facing a lawsuit is another clue he's guilty.
Follow the money, man. Follow it.
It's not biased. The truth was there for you to be seeing.
Call the self righteous police , FlashXIII is correct : "save jailspace for the real criminals like rapists, murderers and bankers."
I thought this clown was "BANNED" from Planet Earth!
.....anyway we all know Companies/Government work with Hackers!
Hacking is the easiest way to get a high paying job (without going to Boot Camp) with the FBI or Pentagon!
Nice. Hopefully with his help, The PlayStation Network wont shut down for another month.
If I was Sony I would of punched him in the face first...and THEN hire him
Does seem a tad hypocritical of Sony though, put up a massive fight with him, go against piracy which was a bold, brave thing to do, watch the PSN go down for a month and now work along side him....come on
He was the person who started the chain reaction leading to the PSN being shut down...I wouldn't of dared hired him
Hmm...but isn't it better for Sony to work with the dudes who brought down the PSN in the first place....."even former enemies could make good allies"
I saw an interview the other day and this guy basically said that's how modern policemen work. they work with the community (and criminals to an extent), and not against them.
Sony is kind of using the same principle. only good can come from this.
A police officer I once met told me that one of the best guys they have, is a cop who simply knows "all the people from the scene" and therefore solves his cases the fastest (he's known for being lazy, simply hanging out with these people all the time. Therefore, wants to solve things through networking xD)
You mean like when law enforcement has criminals help them with ongoing cases they might otherwise not be able to solve? Prosecuting him was the right thing to do, first and foremost. But working with him gives him a chance to benefit, and they benefit as well. Oh, and we benefit, too.
Sounds like you would have taken it personally, but it's business: hire the talent. For GeoHot, it's as the saying goes: if you can't beat em, join em.
Edit: mr_badhand, you sure do love to take things to their extremes, don't you?
I don't know what country you live in, but criminals have cooperated with their governments for centuries to receive lighter sentences. Whether it's ratting out co-conspirators or simply pointing folks in the right direction; sad to say, I had one of my cousins try to cooperate and implicate another in a murder so she would receive a lighter sentence.
Or have you never heard of someone testifying for a lighter sentence? More than just that happens, you know.
Also, note I said "Hire the talent." The talent on the legal side of hacking kinda doesn't exist. So if you want someone to help you stop hackers, your best bet is another hacker. But it usually isn't until they get caught that they're willing to cooperate.
I'm SO sorry you didn't understand that, though.
Hicken is right! Lets all become career criminals and get great jobs when we're caught.
Criminals helping law enforcement? Like Breakout Kings or White Collar? What's that other TV show where a criminal teams up with a cop... Oh yea the movie 48 hours!
@mr_badhand You're entitled to your opinion but know that those shows aren't exactly original ideas. They are inspired by real life circumstances and the criminals were actually useful in those situations. Also you forgot the Hannibal movies.
@wolo
Damn, how could I forget those movies.
I know most are based off of real life situations because not to long ago I myself partnered up with a cop to bring down a ruthless crime boss. It detailed long car chase scenes, witty dialog and a final shoot out scene all in an hour and a half time.
It's kind of giving those types of hackers the wrong message
"Hack something big, cause a big kafuffle and get given a well paid job."
Thats not right...they should be punished, why should people who follow the rules in life miss out getting good jobs against someone who has broken them
What about the good hackers out there, the ones who know how to hack but also know when they are going too far. People like that who actually try and get work end up being unemployeed while arseholes like Geohot get a well paid job.
Sony working with him for the "better" is nonsense, if you had good computer/hacker skills you could work to help improve the online.
I mean if you found out you lost a job oppertunity towards someone who took down the companies online system and made their life a living hell for a month...you would be a tad p*ssed off you lost it to someone like him.
Wasn't he working for Facebook once? Lol it's funny how Sony sued with this guy and now he's working with them
Maybe it was part of the agreement that Sony made with Geohot that made that fiasco end so abruptly. The dude started the whole events that led to the PSN outage so hiring the guy to see what he saw in the holes of the security will help make it stronger.
He may be a douche but he is a brilliant one at that though.
2011 so far, has been many things but finally, thanks to one South Australian Attorney General it should finally be the year that Australians take their place with the rest of the world in recognising adult classifications in Video Games. Too long have we had to suck at the teat of the consumer watchdog, too long have we had to hide in the shadows, too long brothers have we been forced into nefarious actions of importing illicit uncensored video game violence – no more!
Amid the floods, floods, earthquakes, tsunamis, nuclear meltdowns, weddings and just a few cyclones and hurricanes the year kicked off with some not so original politically incorrect mass marketing and went down hill from there. Bulletstorm was slammed, Mortal Kombat was banned, Geohot was fanned, the PSN was canned and somewhere in there Hacker group Anonymous ordered pizza to the CEO of Sony online Entertainment to his address they obtained from a florist he used to order flowers for his wife.
Nice read had a mild smile with the play on words elaborate word smithing was lightly dusted with sarcasm and wit but with a bit of heart too kudos struth mate.
australia went through its derp moment
everything went better than expected
YES. Finally. Thank you whoever was involved. Now what happens with already released games?
From what I've heard, games already classified as banned won't be allowed in.
Now, I'm not exactly sure what this means.
Either:
#1, fully banned, no recourse.
#2, wont be automatically allowed in, but if the publisher resubmits their game once R18+ is in, the game will be allowed.
Nice article but it hasn't actually happened yet, so until it does I'm not convinced lol.
George "Geohot" Hotz, the man who broke the PlayStation 3 wide open, has denied responsibility for the recent PlayStation Network hack that saw the details of 77 million accounts stolen
Hotz, really? It has EVERYTHING to do with you. YOU were the one who decided to mess with OtherOS. YOU were the one who then bragged about hacking the console through OtherOS, and when Sony removed the feature because of obvious reasons, you and your basement friends cried foul.
YOU were the one who then unleashed the console's root key on the internet for the world to see, and for your own egotistical reasons.
Then when the inevitable happened and Sony came after you, Anonymous got involved because of YOU. Then all these other basement-sleeping, milk-drinking and paranoid hackers went after Sony, forging some kind of holy crusade because of YOU.
Hotz, leave us alone, this all happened because of YOU.
I know right. It is either this guy is trying to prove to himself that it isn't his fault or he is a bigger idiot than I thought but it is indirectly his fault. What do you expect when you release the way to hack the PS3. Its like a guy putting your key in your front door and inviting his burglar friends and showing what he has down. Of course there going to go in
You know what's worse? This prick isn't even a gamer.
Words can't express how badly I wana rip his head off.
Above 3 comments took ALL words from my mouth. I read it, thought well I have more to add, read the second one. Then "oh Ill just post how much I hate him" and well thats where the third comment comes in. Haha!
This guy is a TOTAL idiot...Let me go make copies of banks and retail stores keys and access cards, and sell them on the internet. I wont do it to steal anything, just to give people an option to go to the store and bank at night. Oh and next week when these places shut down due to money loss....yeah its not my fault....Amazing reasoning right there.
Be a man Georgy and take responsibilities for results of your own actions.
It's sad to thing that people who did all the wrong are so weak minded and got blinded by this jerk and him alike.
Funny thing "I didn't do this, I just opened the gates for all the d-bags out there to do it by themselves"
-___-
this dude is directly responsible, his hack made all this possible. I wonder how many people are going to sue his ass if their credit/identity gets stolen.
If anyone ever sees this dude in the street do me a big favor and beat the living shit out of him. Thanks in advance.
Hotz is now "Godfather" of the hacker. He doesn't actually have to get his hands dirty. Seems like the crowd here believes that he was the one to call the hit on Sony. Sounds feesable, but diffecult to prove.
Enough already Geohot
Kratos, UNLEASH HELL ON THIS FOOL AND SEND HIM TO HADES!
Really? Nothing to do with it? Well that's good enough for me! Why would he ever have a reason to lie? Could it be because if he admitted it he'd have the courts coming down on him big time for doing something illegal?
You know what's the worst part?
Many of us had advised this as a possible outcome from as far back as the time when this prick was messing with OtherOS.
I know I did and I remember many other persons saying the same on piracy related articles.
While the anti-Sony guys and pirates were saying that those of us that buy games shouldn't care about people stealing games, we were expressing our concern with PSN data stealing, cheating over PSN and what not...
Guess what: we were deemed some kind of paranoic conspiracy freaks.
Jerks like Hotz and FailOverflow had many times said they were just releasing the power to the people. We, the "paranoids", said that not everything should be freely accessible, there are misintending people all around the world who can use the power for the worst, that this concept of "freedom" was totally irresponsible.
But what impresses me the most is that we, the "paranoids", we're proved right before those said hackers had released a single homebrew program to public, before they could brought back OtherOS, before the pirates enjoyed many games... I even wonder if anyone cares about piracy now a days, but if I say that the only people really interested in all this from the begining was those interested in harming gamers and Sony, that no time was really spent using this "freedom" for anything good, I'll probably be receiving a tinfoil hat on the mail tomorrow, afterall they have my adress now...
I wonder were are the hackers supporters now... I mean those that aren't right here with an alternative account blaming it all on Sony.
I hope this poor excuse for a man never lives this down.
He's the sole reason why all this has happened, and I hope he gets what he deserves.
I'm not the type to wish pain or misfortune onto others, but this guy deserves it.
Hope he gets stomped out in his neighborhood and it make headline news so everyone in the world can laugh at him.
If I end up getting any false charges, I will definitly be interested in joining a class action lawsuit against George Hotz.
We can easily prove how it was his fault.
Well said i couldn't have said it better myself, its time people learn how to take responsibility for their actions.
Fail0verflow, annonymous and this guy have to just disappear once and for all. They mean nothing me as a gamer and i sure as hell dont and wont support their contracditions of visions.
To say you dont condome something and make it possible for that to be had is in itself contradicting as it is filled with guilt via responsibility. But of course with you guys theres never any liability despite all the promises and how pretty the picture is painted.
Then we have these http://e-mpire.com/content/... guys...i am telling you they are no good and i strongly feel true gamers on all sides should unite against these people for its the only way they will ever leave us alone, that or until the government starts to get aggressive with these guys and deprive them of certain rights.
The cycle needs to stop.
Good Job to E-mpire on that article. A lot of people are linking to it. Its great. :)
leave brittney alone !!! come on why disagree im trying to cheer people up ):
cause britney doesnt give us an interactive experience. although if hots did, it would be a totally different story.
zap! zap! zap! zap!
D:
Blaming one guy for sony's failed security is stupid. Blame Sony. They have the money and manpower to update their security. Xbox 360 and Wii have been hacked to death and this hasn't happened to them.
It was a normal day on Theyellowflash30´s world, when he out of a sudden bump while changing channels on a court case where...
Judge: Some last words my enthralling friend?
Culprit: Blame the person for being weak and unprepared and not me who robbed him and stabbed him to death.
Judge: Calm glance...thinking...
Room: JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA, WTF, LOLOLOLOL, XDXdxD...HUH?, is that guy crazy?, he mUst not be serious...he must be on drugs. Poor sucker, he is actually trolling us? xdXdXD.
...After a good 10 minutes of laffing off...
Judge: Tap tap tap...Order in the room...Order in the room I said.
Room: Shut.
Judge: LOL, has 9000 thousand year on jail.
End.
Oh theyellowflash, hope your lil big plannet of a world make up for the lack of humility you my kind mate may have on that hollow mind of yours, god really need to bless you xD.
Applauds, applauds.
Well yellowflah, next time you are a victim of a criminal act remember your own words.
Yeah but it took them a long time to hack PS3 out of all 3 systems. The Next generation of system need to have maximum security lol so these hacker can't hack a system. This is just a future reference.
Geo hotz is to blame. He's the one that opened the door for these jokers in the first place. If he had left well enough alone none of this would have happened.
"Mangekyo sharingan!!". The hackers could have hacked any network. They hacked Sony because Sony took a stand against the hackers who hacked the ps3 i.e. GeoHot and fail0verflow. Why are you even commenting on this article. This isn't for 12 year olds. Go back to playing your Halo Breach (my a$$hole)...
your a fool if u think its sonys fault , and 360 and nintendo didnt have these hardcore hackers like anonymous after them, pretty sure if they they'd be in deep crap also t and that trash geohot opened the door to all of this so dont defend that prick.
@yellowfish
thats like letting hitler off for starting WW2.
"ah sure wasn't it the army that did the invading"
godwins rule rant over
RufustheKing That is just stupid what you said. Geohots help start it but didn't tell people to steal information. Hittler started world war 2 and orderd to kill jews. big difference.
@movements
It's right to be angry at Hotz, but he really has nothing to do with this.
PSN is online service and has nothing to do with the system itself.
Edit: And those people who disagreed propably do not know anything about technology nor their security. Hypocrites.
Cause and effect.
The events of Geohot is very likely to be linked to the cause of the PSN attack. Why PSN only? Why not the other console systems?
Who knows maybe he is directly linked ot the cause of these attacks, but just chooses to hide in the shadows.
Can't really say he has no connection or he does based on his words only, especially when you look at his recent history of interaction with Sony.
If a woman gets raped, do you blame the woman for not closing her legs or the person who raped her in the first place? So apply that same analogy to these hackers breaking into PSN. They're the ones who broke the law. They're the ones that should be prosecuted.
We disagree with you because YOU don't get it. GeoHot said "here I hacked the system." Then he left the keys out in the world, "here I have released the keys!" Or shall I say, "I opened pandora's box. Destroy Sony! Have at them!"
Now you're backing GeoHotz when he is the original guy who cracked the entire system wide-open for the world to destroy. PSN's hacking was a DIRECT result of GeoHotz's hacking and release of the keys.
Good job Apina, good job defending a hacker. Good job.
AnttiApina
Have you ever heard of the domino effect?... That is what this is , a direct result of Geohtoz actions.
Would any of this have happened if Geohotz decided not to jailbreak the ps3?... I doubt it, because (I'll spell it out for you) Anon would have never been involved if Geohotz didn't release the key online and get his ass sued. Anons actions either inspired an outside group to attack the psn or they did it themselves.
This is GeoHotz mess whether he or anyone else wants to believe it or not. He just pushed the first domino and watched it all unfold.
Without a custom firmware, hackers would have never been able to gen access to the dev branch of PS3 and exploit it.
What on Earth are you going on about? Geohot messed around with the ps3 not a sony admin's pc. Just because he done this which in turn had Sony take away OtherOs and tried to punish Geohot doesn't mean he's to blame for the retaliation what so ever.
Ignorance is bliss.
He isn't angry about what geo may have or may not have done (secretly?) directly to the PSN.
He is angry at the fact that the reason why the PSN is down today is due to the actions Geo decided to make in the recent past.
I don't know if Geohot messed around with sony admin pc or not, yet you seem to know well and you call the rest of us the ignorant ones.
OPEN YOUR EYES.
a better understanding of the console system is a better understanding of the network it access it
When are you going to understand that this is a case of "cause and effect?" I think never, because you LOOOVE geohotz.
When you release the keys of PS3, and release it to the internet, of course, you're to blame for something like this. Its not rocket science.
I like how he's distancing himself from this. Real classy./s
He had a lot to do with this, considering that if he didn't run his mouth on the internet, he wouldn't have given people ideas to hack PSN.
"Then all these other basement-sleeping, milk-drinking and paranoid hackers went after Sony"
What's wrong with drinking milk? :(
Dude... I couldn't agree more. Well said. He's only commenting because no attention has been thrown his way for a while.
It's not all Geohot's fault.. Anonymous or some other lame hackers are the ones to blame for the PSN's downtime.
That has nothing to do with this. Because YOU as a customer reaped some form of benefit for the removal of OtherOS/PS2 BWC from the Slims in the sum of a $100 cheaper + more reliable PS3. AND the other models that HAD OtherOS still had the support UNTIL EgoHot started his BS. So your "point" is dead wrong.
If you are going to spout a comment like that then post the proper information that goes with it. Otherwise you are just posting misinformation that is factually incorrect of which amounts simply to trolling.
No, it's factually correct. Sony didn't allow OtherOS on the Slims, that's what kicked it all off. And besides, no matter what Geohot did, Sony had no reason to remove otheros. If you actually research what happened, the "hack" was practically useless and removing OtherOS clearly didn't prevent anything, it just pissed off more people. Blame Geohot all you want, but you can't keep blaming him for stuff like this, for Sony's sheer incompetence.
kushan i thought what kicked it all off was the removal of other OS on the system originally released with them. Correct me if im wrong please
well said @ movements..... whatever this hotz kid is about , he clearly wants fame and notoriety, he is a self publicising arrogant fool. Every day psn remains down and the more the media hype up concerns over credit card info, the more people who are getting seriously pissed off with him. If he is so bright why can't he get a good job creating amazing games like portal 2 (which i'm playing now, it's brilliant)
Of course it's to do with him, and his legion of monkeys who are supposedly engaging in hacking activism for the right to free information... I think anon lost their way with the geohotz cause, they should stick to things like defending wikileaks.
forget him he never understood that there are big bad people in the world that will rob you clean of the street.
"arg i need to hack the ps3 and share it to the world"
"oh yes please do" says the criminal
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION!!!
[irony & sarcasm]
I'm glad N4g doesn't represent the rest of the internet/world.
He doesn't even take part/have to do with this and you people are calling him a piece of shit and wish to rip his head off.
You do understand that his actions are the motivating force for this right?
You do understand cause and effect right?
You do realize just becasue a mafia don doesn't pull the trigger he is still committing murder right.
maybe bad analogy but im sure your smart enough to get it. If not PM me and ill click block ;)
>If not PM and ill click block
...lolwut?
Cause and effect, he still did not participate in this, he did not cause this. PSN is being hacked, not the Ps3, and you fools are yelling that you want his head cut off.
You don't see what I'm talking about at all do you?
were sony fans budy or what you are not ? all the rest of the internet blames sony and talks trash about them when they were victims of a HACK and not just any ones these were hardcore hackers and all u hear is biching and complaining all over the internet , im a real sony fan and hate the fact that this duche opened the door to everything thats happening
@zombie panda .... anon started their actions against sony by disrupting PSN in defence of sony's lawsuit against geohot. So geohot is definitely at the root of the current situation. anon are mostly an internet activism group and anyone can participate in whatever their current target is. just go to one of their chatrooms to see links to targets. apparently they feel geohot should have the right to distribute info of ps3 security code. but the guy is clearly a self publicising , narcissistic arrogant little prick. I'm sure he would have loved the attention and support of anon, so yeah he is basically the main reason why PSN has been hacked. seriously, fuck him.
" I'm not going to make cracks at Sony for flipping a s**t when their data is compromised, and not even having the decency to apologize when it's your data that's misappropriated."
How about not having the decency to apologize for STARTING this whole thing. Sony should have to apologize for not being able to prevent the problems YOU created for us? Fuckin dick.... He wants all the attention for starting this, but blames Sony for being a victim of his actions.
This is precisely why Sony didn't want you hacking their console, these are the results of your actions, grow up and accept responsibility, rather than feigning ignorance as if you thought hacking the PS3 would only result in sweet homebrew games... You started this ripple effect.
i would like to have a actual conversation with him. Not to hurt him or anything but to look at him with the really really really face as he explains all the issues you brought up.
Sites need to stop writing as if the details were taken..
sony have clearly stated that details MAY have been stolen
p.s geohot sucks who cares
"we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID."
source: http://blog.us.playstation....
its funny cause the psn hack has nothing to do with what hots did. 179 people are really stupid.
This kid sure as annoying as he'll but maybe it's about time Sony hired him. He's obviously a douche but a talented douche and his skills could be really insightful to Sony right now.
lol, 48 disagrees an most likely 48 people wanting the demise of SONY so they can DLC their way to the end of games on console.
Really?
Nothing?
Yeah, the guy who split the atom might not be the same guy who built the first bomb, but he started a chain of events that lead directly to it.
Its called CONSEQUENCES people. Your actions have effects. You shake a tree, an apple falls, and the sooner the world learns that, (and I am by no means talking just about videogames, but in fact everything,) then the better off it will be.
One thing leads to another.
Geohot lead to Anon. Anon lead to this. The only reason they are distancing themselves from it is because they never dreamed of anything this big. Their activities were pranks in comparison, but it was always going to turn into something bigger. A crack in a dam, does just stay a crack in a dam.
One could then ask what led to Geohot? ... you could keep going with that, but that is false logic.
People should take responsibility for their OWN ACTIONS, not blame it one some past event. If it is wrong, it is wrong and you did it!
Maturity is usually indicated by the ability to take responsibility for own actions, as opposed to blaming it on others.
I agree with everything you said, (I even ticked agree), I'm big on personal responsibility.
But all it took for Geohot to spring into action was Sony removing a privilege that he thought was a right. So baby threw his rattle.
Had he, or others like he, not meddled where they knew they weren't supposed to, Other OS might still be here.
Just another example of consequence.
I'm not directly blaming Geohot or Anon for this breach, I'm just saying they cant wash their hands of it either.
Personally, I think people should be allowed to modify software and disseminate information on how to do it, as long as it is not for the purpose illegal activity.
That said, is Anonymous or Geohot to blame for it? That is debatable, but I personally lean towards no simply because if I told you to go kill yourself, common sense dictates you shouldn't!
Because you are upset about something, doesn't mean you can go around hurt people, damage or break into other properties or steal.
I'm very upset about our corrupt government, but I don't go around doing illegal things....
By the way, I appreciate the agree, but I don't really look at them too much. I tend to be with the majority so I'm used to it. ;)
Why cant Sony send this douche to prison? There needs to be laws added from cyber terrorists/bad hackers to prevent this sort of thing from happening.
People need to look at Sony, not only Geohot. Remember, Sony removed OtherOs before Geohot released his custom firmware to the public. It was that action that led him to do it. He said he was retiring from hacking and his action was a reaction to Sony removing the OtherOs feature. Why did Sony not patch the feature and then add it back? That might have prevented Geohot and Anonymous from doing what they did. Sony are the ones who decided to include OtherOs in the first place. It was an advertised feature of the PS3 originally. Not many people may have used it but some certainly did and its the principle of the thing. I think its safe to say that anyone who bought the PS3 before the slim versions expected to have that feature and PSN access for good but of course that wasn't to be the case. It is not the consumer's fault that OtherOs was hacked. Why didn't Sony release such a feature in the first place that could be used to compromise the console's security? Hackers are going to hack. Also, why were Sony not more competent after the hack and allow their network to be hacked putting the personal information of their customers in the hands of criminals? Thus, Sony is not free from blame. They were irresponsible and if people can't recognise that, they need to remove their fanboy goggles. I like Sony and they have been unfortunate but they brought a lot of it on themselves. The PS3 is the best console on the market and Sony's first party devs are some of the best in the industry but this will be a setback for them. Maybe they should charge half the price of xbox live for psn, improve security and add cross game chat?
Sony is the one to blame for throwing out the statement the PS3 is unhackable; then using that as the only security point to protect PSN members. Poor security... In this day and age you don't put up something without having multiple layers of security. Maybe if the spent a little more money on securing their network and not Blu Ray disc. Silly because you guys are justifying the guy who leaves his door unlocked in a neighborhood of thieves and wonders why his house gets robbed.
Check what I said way back as I said Sony is going to regret having homebrew… You invite the hackers and wonder why you get hacked.
stfu its everything to do with him, you better hide there are some mad gamers out there n im one of them
If Geohot didn't release the CFW, hacking the PSN would have been more difficult.
You do realize the PS3 itself had nothing to do with the recent PSN 'server' breach right? you can blame this guy all you want but it still doesn't change the fact Sony had piss poor security protocols for their service.
No, no but i blame the fact that because of his @ss asking fellow donators and hackers for help made this happened, isn't that right http://e-mpire.com/content/... annonymous?
@Blaze929
I totally agree with you but 99% of people on this site love sony and won't have a bad word said about them whether it is true or not.
Poor security is clearly Sonys fault
Then explain to me why it took four/five years for the PS3 to be hacked if Sony has piss poor service? Obviously, Sony must have had a secured network that it took *this* long to hack the PS3. Nothing is uncrackable. The Pentagon itself had a secured network and yet a hacker was able to get in. I could name several companies that encountered hackers and break-ins as well. You want to say they had piss poor service as well?
If you were a real gamer Blaze929, you wouldn't be supporting anyone who ruins the experiences of other people when it comes to gaming.
PERIOD.
And Bumnut, I could say the same thing about the other side but I'll just leave it the way it is. It has nothing to do with saying anything bad about Sony. It has something to do with placing the RIGHTFUL blame on who was responsible for this. If a thief breaks in a house, you're going to blame the homeowner who did the best they could to secure their home or the thief who broke in?
I tend to think LOGIC escapes people most of the time.
I'm not supporting anyone. Hell, I was affected by this breach too! I'm just saying, you can't put all the blame on GeoHot because Sony didn't have strong enough security. It would have happened eventually if this was the way their security was layered.
@Narutone66 - let's see...it's been about 9 years since Xbox LIVE was launched. Name one time it was breached since then.
OOOOOOH wow! Michael's supporting GeoHotz! What a douche!
A guy also affected by the PSN attack says: "GeoHotz is not at fault!"
FAIL! He unlocked PS3 wide, wide open, and release the keys to the system.
Hardware hacking > Software Hacking [XMB OS] > PSN Attack.
Its not really rocket science.
EDIT: BTW, XBL WAS breached, XBL WAS hacked.
Funny how Blaze929 is always misinformed about $#@! yet STILL professes as if he knows what he is talking about...
Just the day before yesterday someone posted an answer to your SAME EXACT QUESTION of which you did not, nor could not, respond too because YOU ARE WRONG (as usual).
Original Response to you made by a_bro ~ http://n4g.com/comments/red...
of which has this bit of information ~ http://www.zdnet.com/blog/s...
Seriously Blaze this is like the 4th time you have claimed some absolute BS and have been proven wrong each and every time.
Blaze and BUM can you please list how you know sony had no security or shit security. Please list it and let us all know where you got the information.
thats all i ask so we can collectively all see it and agree. Since it should be black and white i would assume.
Please please please do it.
I have had my live tag stolen and i know others who have to. its really not that uncommon to get your gamertag stolen. Read the internet your on it all day. I bet you go thru you 360 friends list and at least 1 on there (if you have any friends) will ahve had there's stolen.
My original live tag was Thizzle and that was stolen completely i don't think i ever got it recovered. I have had my 360 tag stolen when the COD4 beta was released.
@Blaze929, you really are an xbox 360 fan. I always see you hating on the PS3 and praising the 360. You're so one-sided.
Didn't hackers use the root keys that Geohot released to gain access to the servers. Blaze, you are so misinformed and the fact that you believe the words you type on this site proves that you might not be "all there" mentally.
There is a difference between having great security and not being hacked. The former prevents attacks, the latter might just mean not enough resources have been put into it.
Case in point: Remember when Windows was (and still is) riled for having poor security compared to Mac OSX:
http://news.techworld.com/s...
http://www.worsttech.com/bu...
That said, we really don't know how hackers gained access and we will likely never know, but the exposure of root keys should have little impact if any in gaining access to PSN.
Blaze has always been a hardcore 360 fanboy. Just take his bubbles like it was before N4G changed and did a reset on everyone's bubbles.
You guys just realized this now? He's always been a 360 fanboy. He even tries to hide it. The more you accept it, the more you just say "not surprising coming from Blaze."
Well obviously it has nothing to do with him or he would be getting raped in the showers in a few months time, I don't think that a clarification was necessary
If he wasn't kissing Sony's ass right now he would be having fun in jail. It has everything to do with him.
No CFW...no hacks, and if it did get hacked its an easier fix.
I'm failing to see the relation between CFW being made available and a group of hackers gaining access to Sony's network and obtaining confidential data.
Correct me if im wrong but these are two completely seperate incidents.
The Root keys that Geohot released allowed hackers to bypass security measures and they eventually used the Root keys to gain access to the severs.
It's also the second most prominent face in where Sony got bitchslapped then raped for good measure by hackers who stand up and fight against Corporate bullying.
Oh yes, of course Sony should have let THEIR software become free in the hands of everyone!!!!
"Here you go hackers!!! Do whatever you want with our system! Promise you'll be good with it though? Yeah? Don't be stealing any credit card details now, I trust you. Oh! Op, I saw you there Jimmy! Get back from the psn database, you know you're not allowed there! Now now, you said you just wanted to make homebrew software. Come on now"
GTFO dillhole
"fighting the man" Bwahahahaha! yeah they stand up against Corporate bullying and steal data from consumers, yeah, that's how you "fight the man" XD
lol how is Sony bullying people? You already get access to a free service and there are things like folding@home and the donations going to the relief effort in japan. What has this guy contributed to society? But you know... http://m.youtube.com/index?...
Hotz didn't "crack" the PS3. He followed the work of other hackers, did what they did and just went one step farther in publishing the code that the other hackers wouldn't, then went on TV about it - like he always does. "I'm a hacker! Put me on the BBC! Sure I know this will enable Piracy, but I don't condone Piracy so it's ok!"
I really wanted to see Sony nail this joker to the wall. If he was so innocent and so righteous, why did he settle? Get a real job. And "Attention Whore" isn't an actual job, although it pays for South American vacations apparently.
Can we all just stop approving stories about this piece of trash? I'm sick of seeing his ugly mug plastered all over the home page. I'm managing to loose interest in a topic I already had low interest in. The settlements been made, its over...
Apparently as a young kid, GeoHot had an affinity for fiddling about with technology - WHAT A F**KIN' SURPRISE!
Please, the case is over, enough with this dweeb. Let him crawl back into whatever scum filled hole he emerged from and let us never hear of him again. His 15 minutes are up.