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PGR4 vs PGR3 Video Comparison

Side by side video comparison of PGR4 and PGR3 showing the direction in which Bizarre is taking their latest game in the Xbox 360 exclusive racing game series.

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felidae6061d ago

i'm confused ... which one is PGR4? The whole time i thought the above until i saw the PGR4 licence plate on the car in the bottom vid.

hmm.. ?!?

DZNetworks6061d ago

The one with the motorcyle is obviously PGR4...

secret6061d ago (Edited 6061d ago )

PLAYBACK IS OF LOW QUALITY:
If the encoded video is of low quality, you'd expect the top screen to still look worse than the lower screen, because both screens are effected by the low quality equally.

For example, lets say the top screen is a 10 in graphics, and the lower screen is a 20 in graphics. Now, let's degrade the quality of both screens by 5. The upper screen should then become 5 and the lower screen should become 15. And 5 is still lower than 15 in graphics.

Because of this, your eyes should still see that the upper screen as being worse than the lower screen. But because you can't (you really can't at first glance at least), that means that the first gen title and the third/fourth gen title looks similar.

Maybe it's because of the limitations of xbox360 that you can't add both weather AND improve car models and lighting at the same time - simultaneously. You have to give and take when the pie is small.

XBOX360 AND HI-DEFINTION:
There is nothing hi-definition about the xbox360. You talk about 720p and 1080p, but if DVD-9 is really hi-definition, I ask you this -- why would you need HD-DVD or Bluray discs then? Why don't you just keep your old upscaling DVD player and forget HD-DVD and Bluray and watch everything upscaled on your HDTV?

Smoke & mirrors. Smoke & Mirrors. Some people refuse to admit that they're just staring into puffs of smoke & mirrors that's fogging up reality because they don't understand technology or because they refuse to admit that they made a wrong decision and want to protect their egos from bruises.

FACT VERSUS OPINION:
Wageslave, saying your racing game is the best compared to anything on the PS3 is merely an opinion and not a fact. No matter how high the review scores are, to someone else's eyes, they will always think that Mostorstorm or Grand Turismo 5 are better racing games, as I do. You've been backing your opinion with reviewer opinions and calling it a fact. There's no fact.

A fact is something that can be proven inarguably false or true by scientific experiments or observation. For example, let's say that you stated, "In my opinion, pigs have been known to fly." That is a factual statement no matter how you word it. It's because it is scientifically provable to be either false or true. You can exam all pigs throughout textbooks and all pigs currently alive and you won't ever see a flying pig so far.

Similarly, you can say that a girl that you hated has HIV or AIDS when you know she doesn't. However, it's still a factual statement. You can yank her into the testing room and have her tested. It can be proven scientically whether she has it or not. You can take her to ten medical test centers just to be sure.

But to say that PGR4 is better as a matter of fact is not a fact, no matter how you word it or how many other opinions you use to support it. Because if you look carefully, you already have a majority of the people voting disagree on your "fact statement." It is in their opinion that your opinion and the reviewer's opinions are different and is proof that it isn't better than anyting on the PS3. And opinions can change over time. At any given moment, any of the reviewers could think differently based on the mood or other experiences or after a closer observation and then secretly change their "factual" statement one way or the other in their mind at least. I do think that Mostorstorm and Grand Turismo 5 are better than anything on the xbox360 and that's one of the reasons why I refused to buy an xbox360. Understand?

If I do believe that Halo 3 and Gears and Bio are perfect 10's and wonderful -- TOO. then why didn't I buy the xbox360 or even buy it for my Personal Computer, since those games are on the PC, aren't they? Those games pretty much received perfect 10's and mean that they are the best games ever made right?

READ THIS, XBOTS
No. Because it's their opinion. I have my OWN OPINIONS and because it's my money and not theirs, I choose according to my TASTES. My opinion is that I prefer Motostorm, Grand Turismo 5, Resistance, Sigma, GRAW2, MGS4, HAZE, and Ratchet & Clank, and that's why I bought my PS3 -- in addition to free online, high quality (not low quality) Bluray and DVD playback, and PS2, PS1, and PSN features (since I skipped the PS2, PS1 eras, SACD playback, seemingly indestructable hardware, quiteness, sleek black design that blends into the night when watching movies or playing games with the lights turned off, motion sensing controls, beautiful design, one piece design, linux computer, folding to help society, its potentials, its environmental friendly materials that's safer for humans and the environment, the Sony brand name, and the fact that the PS3 plus my computer can become a custom built XBOX360. All of which the xbox360 lacks.

Why would I buy an xbox360 for Gears or Bioshock or Halo if I don't like those games? I should buy it because somebody else likes them and gave them good scores? I don't think so.

PS3 + PC computer = XBOX360
Most people who buy a PS3 first will rarely need to buy an xbox360, but most people who buy xbox360's first will most likely feel a desire for a PS3 at some point. Only one of the main reasons is that most of the games worth having on the xbox360 are going to be ported to the xbox360 (GRAW2, NGS, Oblivion, COD4, Fight Night3, DEVIL MAY CRY, and so on) or they will be available on the PC in almost everyone's homes -- such as Halo, Gears, and Bioshock the PC version.

XBOX360 owners can pout and flame until their face turns blue and faint, but in the end, we PS3 owners made the right purchase. And we know it.

Here, this video is of low quality too...The Grand Turismo's are not even finished.

Grand Turismo 5
http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

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Mostorstorm:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

Enough said...

PLAYB3YOND

Gondee6061d ago

Ok ,that right above me is a PS fanboy. He just dosnt spam it.

The video is about comparing the games graphics. Not how people that buy a ps3 and a PC wont need an xbox.

I need a name for a PS bot???
any one got one?

Jinxstar6061d ago

Wow Secret Kinda extreme huh? I am a PS3 fan too but no matter what you post they wont care man. All in all 360 fans are right on some things. Lack of games and delays left and right suck. However the ones that are blind to the PS3 potential i.e. looking at Wardevil and GT5 need a good skull smashing. At the current moment they have 3 REALLY good games. Well 2(Dont much like halo myself) imo but still 3 AAA titles we cant touch Gear, Halo3 and Bioshock. Still though down the line I think many will convert. No point in all that man. Its a good post but yeah.

@ Gondee If I think of one I'll let you know. "Xbot" is pretty good "Playbot" and "Botstation" aint that good...

Ima go play Phantom Hourglass. If I think of one I'll PM you...

JasonPC360PS3Wii6061d ago

There is nothing more pathetic than a "Droid" from a Star Wars movie accept Jar Jar, there purpose is to be cannon fodder "training" for the hero Jedi. Everything they do, their whole existance is to do whatever the emperor/Sony tells them even the lies and promises. In the end they lose and are pushed into galactic garbage pits of overpriced promises and lies.

Ps3Fanboy7776061d ago

ITS OFFICIAL THE 360 CONSOLE IS MAXED...

Man was everyone just flat wrong. From developers, to analysts, reviewers..

Going to be funny watching everyone buy the Ps3. Cant wait to see all the justifications..

OWNED.. Ps3 wins. Gt5 spanks this sooo bad.. I mean its not even fair. Then add 1080p 60FPS to the mix... LMAO

Atleast you have the scaler........................ ........ lmao

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AnalFace6061d ago (Edited 6061d ago )

PGR3 looks better IMO.???? hehehe... eh?
Oh yer and that doesnt even sound like an F430?

BadTaste6061d ago

So which of your questions do you want answered first? =/

...

TheUltimatePS3Fanboy6061d ago

Well there you have it they haven't improved $h1T.

shysun6060d ago

The shadows n the first video looks much better.I cant see much else.

CrazzyMan6061d ago

though, not really big difference.

p.s. PGR3 was in 600p. PGR4 now in 720p i think.. well probably because of that, not big difference on 372x288 video.. =)

OC_MurphysLaw6061d ago

but this didnt really show us anything. this PGR4 is all about a new weather system so I would have liked to see that, plus the bikes would have been nice to see as well. Not to mention the video quality of this capture wasnt the best so hard to really see if PGR4 has any graphical improvements...

Based off that video...they looked like the same game. Not a ringing endorsement if you ask me to buy the new one. Show me the weather ...show me what makes this game different.

gamesR4fun6061d ago (Edited 6061d ago )

wow talk about no noticeable difference they really got to try harder for my 50$

edit guess Ill have to see it RL to tell also should say that 3 was and still is one of the greatest racers ever so I guess they could only improve so much...

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Let's Remember Some Xbox 360 Games

Luke Plunkett of Kotaku writes, "I think we all took the Xbox 360 for granted. Other all-time greats like the SNES and PS2 seem to be remembered more fondly than Microsoft’s console, which tends to be recalled as more of a thing that happened than a platform to be treasured."

JEECE2153d ago

A Kotaku writer pining for Xbox's golden years. I'm guessing there will be some good comments here.

Uglyday2153d ago

“WE”didn’t take it for granted, M$ did.

What happened prior to launch of the One up through current day with their marketing and focus away from games and consumers. The failure of the One has nothing to do with the 360 being great. In fact backward compatibility and the 360 is about all the One had/has going for it. Now M$ is dumping money into fornite articles to try and be seen as more than they are, a company that doesn’t give a damn about its fan boys or products.

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Xbox’s Phil Spencer Talks Rise of the Tomb Raider, Possibility of Sunset Overdrive Sequel and More

Microsoft’s Xbox Division head honcho Phil Spencer is always quite open to conversations with the fans on social media, and today he went on one of his usual Twitter sprees, talking about quite a few interesting topics.

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raggy-rocket3131d ago (Edited 3131d ago )

Sunset Overdrive was so fun, unlike any game I've seen in a while. Felt kinda fresh to see something unique. Hope it sold well, it deserved to, would love to have a sequel, maybe multi-platform this time so our PS brethren could share the love too.

LifeInNZ3131d ago

They should make it one of their games for gold this xmas, I'm sure it would be extremely popular and drive a thirst for a sequel.

Mr Pumblechook3131d ago

Sunset Overdrive received a positive critical reception but sales wise it underperformed. The reality is that businesses have to make a profit, if there is a sequel then Insomniac will follow the Titanfall example and make it multi-format so it is available to as many gamers as possible.

Kribwalker3131d ago

@pumblecock

I'd like to see your insider information as to how well sunset overdrive did and how it underperformed, because I remember that they sold out of sunset overdrive limited edition bundles as well ,the October 2014 npd had it at the 9th best selling game that month if you sorted by skus it stated and released on October 28

http://www.shacknews.com/ar...

And it debut in 2nd next to Fifa in the uk

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

RiseofScorpio3131d ago (Edited 3131d ago )

If its multiplatform Microsoft won't be funding it consider that.

@Pumblechook. Microsoft funded and marketed SSOD even if it sold 1 copy insomniac didn't lose anything also they would have to go elsewhere for funding if they went multipkat which I doubt since they have a solid partner in MS.

You don't know the sales aims for SSOD therefore you can't say it underperformed.

Mr Pumblechook3131d ago (Edited 3131d ago )

@Waluigi. Before Microsoft would fund a Sunset Overdrive 2, they would have to consider the benefit to their platform for example would it drive new console sales? If they think it was a big draw then they would pay for it, if they don't think it would they wouldn't! Microsoft paid BIG for Titanfall but it didn't move Xbox One units the way a Gears of War game can so they won't be going exclusive with the sequel.

Insomniac are a mid sized but established studio. If they don't have the resources to fund SO2 they could certainly do so from investment partners.

I do get you point about not knowing what the SO sales aims were. But they were hoping for very good things. It was a well funded game with significant advertising budget ( I heard Ted Price talk about it in person at a UK event). Less then 890,000 games sales (including bundles and discounted copies) was absolutely a disappointment. It doesn't mean the game was a technical failure, it just felt to resonate with the wider public.

ScorpiusX3131d ago

No on the whole brethren BS ,their platform share's no game so no game should be shared with them . Am all for an Exclusive Sequel to SSoD .

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LexHazard793131d ago

I would like it to stay exclusive. PS4 has plenty of exclusives already.

jb2273130d ago

I never understand that philosophy...wouldn't that amount solely to wanting bragging rights? I honestly think gamers should want for exclusive first party studios, not exclusive titles from 3rd party developers. If MS would've spent all of the funds from this gen alone that were funneled towards 3rd party exclusives & timed exclusives they could've most likely started a pretty phenomenal first party studio that could be cranking out the greatest game in Xbox history. Instead these 3rd party deals typically turn out half steps & games that are known commodities, they'll be good fun but they won't be mindblowing because they still aren't fully catering to the system's strengths.

StormLegend3131d ago

Why the downvotes?

He said "Multi-platform" and even if he didn't

he still shouldn't get downvoted.

Professor_K3130d ago

Agreed with everything you said

The game needs its own franchise

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DarkZane3131d ago

Insomniac didn't release it on PS4 because Sony wanted to own the IP, so they went to Microsoft instead. However, now that the first game is released, Sony can't own the IP anymore, so if they want, they're free to release the sequel on PS4 or even port the first one too.

RiseofScorpio3131d ago

So can Capcom release SFV on Xbox One because the own the IP? No. Because there's clauses in the contract just like with SSOD, they cant release SSOD because MS funded it.

_-EDMIX-_3131d ago

Yes, they very much can and likely will after their timed deal with Sony.

Sony doesn't own the SF IP.

I'm sorry but the contract won't some how override the whole IP LMFAO! It just makes zero sense. That is like saying I can pay to exclusively use your car for life, but not actually spend the money that equals your car...it makes no sense.

Sony can't pay Capcom a lessor amount then the IP, to withhold the IP from a system.

I mean...the deal is literally stupid and laughable. That is very, very unlikely that the deal states that.

its likely for a year for Street Fighter V vanilla ie before Super, before Ultra, before Alpha, before Hyper etc lol

MS also funded Ninja Gaiden II and Tomb Raider...

soooooo not sure what you mean bud, that really doesn't mean much. 100% sure Insomniac owns that IP, not MS.

RiseofScorpio3130d ago

Microsoft didn't fund Tomb Raider, they're marketing and publishing only. -ESSAYMIX-

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audiocafe3131d ago

I love the interactivity Phil has with consumers.

DJustinUNCHAIND3131d ago

5 people don't love the interactions between Spencer and the consumers.

OpieWinston3131d ago

You got disagrees for that? Who doesn't want more heads to be down to the ground with the fans of their products? Especially in gaming.

It's good he says what's not in development so the fanbase can then get some buzz going to hopefully push higher ups to decide to greenlight it. Nothings guaranteed but it can spark some light.

from the beach3131d ago

That's not as decisive on a Sunset Overdrive sequel as I'd like ... sign it up, Phil!

DigitalRaptor3130d ago

That's true, but who thinks that likely at all?

Phil recently made a statement that his focus is on first-party now and when quizzed about properties belonging to others he has also said he'd rather focus on things they own. Insomniac at the time, went with Microsoft as publisher for a reason - being so that they could take their game where they liked. Like Titanfall 2, I'd expect a sequel to be published on multiple platforms.

Microsoft gave Sunset a chance, so they deserve a sequel to be only on Xbox, but based on MS track record early this gen that's looking highly unlikely.

from the beach3128d ago

Fair point, I'll take a sequel whether it's exclusive or not!

DivineAssault 3131d ago

Microtransactions in Tomb Raider really turned me off.. I dont understand why devs shove that BS into everything these days.. First it was DLC here and there and now DLC, season passes, and micro transactions for every damn thing.. Im not getting XB1 this season i guess.. Halo has that BS too so your looking at close to $100+ for a single game with all its content.. Screw that

frankdrebin723131d ago

Yet some people are happy to pay the full retail price for remaster games and to stream old games they already own and pay again for them. No one is forcing you to do micro transactions but still it's your choice. I take it you will shun every game that does micro transactions and season passes?

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DivineAssault 3130d ago

No but its a common practice now since some people have no issues buying into that stuff.. Games used to be about having fun and had content that was unlockable without paying.. Now devs are trying to nickel and dime people for stuff that should already be in there

LonDonE3130d ago (Edited 3130d ago )

@emz99
Logged in specifically to agree to u buddy, i am happy more felow gamers see how bad this hobby of ours and our wallets are being raped.

Sadly its wasted on a hack of a site like N4g , these kids dont know how bad it has gotten.
You are so on the money but allot of todays gamers fail to see the bigger picture. :(
Its truely a tragedy, back in the day we used to unlock stuff from games by doing cheat codes or playing allot, but now we have to pay for every little thing! People bang on about how expensive games are to make thus justifying the devs/publishers knickel and diming us but the facts are that games developers are paid ridiculous money per hour/per year! They spend crazy amounts on marketing thier buggy broken games instead of making a solid game which sells itself.
Compare your average game developers wage to say a fireman who saves lives everyday, its laughable.
Gaming is bigger then its ever been, the customers/Cash is there we just want good working games which have value.

There are too many sheep especially on N4g!!
Dont waste your breath buddy. Sorry for typos typed on ps4

donthate3131d ago

Halo 5 has free DLC, including 18 maps for free post release. You can unlock everything in the game without microtransactions.

Contentwise it also includes massive mulitplayer content and a huge quality campaign.

Halo 5 is almost unrival in value and content of the AAA games released until now. The only thing beating this is Halo:MCC and Gears:UE in value, and that is maybe.

I don't see what the complaint is about the micro-transaction, but hey go play CoD or something else instead!

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Kribwalker3130d ago

Emz

Micro transactions traded for free dlc is ok with me. Especially since I can never pay another cent and get what is typically charged as a $40-50 season pass worth of content and the game will not split up its user base (which was always my problem buying dlc on call of duty as the new maps would empty with every release) then I'm all for it

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A Blast to the Past: Project Gotham Racing 3

“PGR3 is a unique, next generation-racing experience where you can design your own tracks, drive any car any time, star on Gotham TV and much more“. Whilst the back of the box might make it sound like a Batman-inspired racing game, Project Gotham Racing 3 is in fact an arcade racer which was part of the Xbox 360 launch lineup back in 2005.

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colt-of-tipton3783d ago

Loved Gotham 3 and 4 they showed more innovation than most racers do today , great looking ,great soundtrack and i was gutted when bizzare creations went under.

mattritchiegspresso3783d ago

PGR4 was my first Xbox 360 game! Yeah it's a shame that Bizarre had to close, but some of the folk went to work at Playground Games who made the brilliant Forza Horizon.