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Gaming's biggest flops

The games industry can be a fickle world. A game could be fantastically made and receive rave reviews from the critics, but that doesn't always mean it'll be a commercial success, as many of the titles over the next few pages prove.

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MintBerryCrunch4804d ago (Edited 4804d ago )

i have a problem with calling some of these masterpieces such as Shenmue and Okami flops even if they didnt sell as much as the devs wanted to...in no way shape or form are those games flops

Anon19744804d ago (Edited 4804d ago )

You can have the greatest game of all time...if no one buys it then it's a flop. Maybe it was a critical success, maybe and artistic masterpiece - but generally a flop is considered a flop if the production and marketing greatly outweigh the revenue.

It's a business thing, and Shenmue and Okami were flops. Great games, but flops. And that's the danger of video game development today. With games that cost so much money to develop, it's a risky business. You could create a masterpiece like Okami, that ruins your company. That's why there's hope with digital downloads. Developers increasingly are turning to smaller, downloadable games because the risks just aren't there like the big, AAA titles. You can afford to make a great game that doesn't sell and it won't necessarily put you and your staff out of work - and thusly you're more willing to take some creative risks.

I was sorry to see Grim Fandango on this list. That's one of my favorite games of all time and while I knew Tim left Lucas Arts after that - I didn't realize that Grim Fandango did so poorly in sales. I think everyone owes it to themselves to play through Grim Fandango at least once. That game was the pinnacle of the point and click adventure genre.

Edit below: Regarding Haze. Haze, despite the hype and the disappointment (being merely mediocre instead of AAA) didn't sell all that badly. It managed almost a million copies which is something 80% of games never achieve in their lifetime. Free Radical was struggling even before Haze's release and losing their Star Wars Battlefield didn't bode well for the company's long term hopes. Haze didn't do badly, but they needed to hit it out of the park and that didn't happen. Hardly a flop though. Just a note - the Haze team then were bought by Crytek and became Crytek UK. They had a lot to do with Crysis 2's development.

-Alpha4804d ago (Edited 4804d ago )

Well said, you hit the nail on the head.

That is exactly what a flop generally is understood to be, though there is also flops when it comes to hype.

Okami sadly flopped, but at least it wasn't hyped like games today are. It's a modest game. I also think it's nice it got a Wii port and a DS game. So at least it's still around

These days everything seems to get hyped to sell the most, kill something else, or get AAA 10/10 status.

Lots of games fail to meet hype and IMO causes games to flop on hype, despite being good games.

Ryudo4804d ago

I think it's mostly about sales. I didn't bother reading the entire article because I hate sites that use that reload the page 10x trick to see the entire list for hits.

But everything I did read was about sales of said game, I can't see anyone in there right mind calling Shenmue a bad game.

But from a sales standpoint it flopped badly.

Ducky4804d ago

Grim Fandago and Okami.

Makes me sad. =(

Urrakia344804d ago

How is Haze not on that list?

gunnerforlife4804d ago

yeah that kinda shocked me loool
should of been on there not just for sales but for quality wise as well

Lucreto4804d ago

Grim Fandago and Okami are my favourite games.

I will be getting Okamiden on Monday and I will spend all day with it.

oneangle4804d ago

Hurts to see Okami on that list. Makes me wonder if we'll ever see anything like it again. Only thing I can hope for is a Move port.

Seferoth754804d ago

Sequel is on DS atm. Cant see it going to Move when HD development has killed enough companies and PS3 gamers are not exactly known for supporting games like this. After all it was the PS2 copy that completely bombed. Wii version outsold it with a much smaller install base.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk777h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE4h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7304h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor1h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos1h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor1h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos1h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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Rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase could happen this week per industry insider

A renowned industry insider has suggested the rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase featuring Silent Hill 2 could happen this week.

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Petebloodyonion6h ago

Bogus!
Why would Sony do that and how would this benefit them?
1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event.
2) Risk of not having great coverage or proper coverage from the various source
3) It could give the impression that they are not confident in their own stuff.
4) They would miss the chance to hype the event losing viewers and losing free marketing time.

Again I'm calling it bogus unless it's a small showcase before the big one or because they want to announce that Hellbalde 2 is also coming on PS5.

SlothLordPootus6h ago

As far as I can remember, they typically give a week heads up for these sorts of things.

Lightning776h ago

I was about to say Sony always gives a week in advance for their show.

VersusDMC5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Last year it was a weeks notice.

https://blog.playstation.co...

May 17th announcement for may 24th show.

VersusDMC5h ago

Nintendo always tweets that a direct is happening tomorrow but no one cares.

Sony gives a week or days of notice and we get anti sony type fake outrage like this.

But good luck trying trying to get some Sony hate going...

Petebloodyonion4h ago

You just mention it!
Sony gives a week in advance NOT just a couple of days.
So I fail to see what Sony's hate movement I'm trying to start when it's a basic business strategy to not piss off your partners (ask Sega).
And I doubt it's hate to ask how it would benefit Sony in doing so.

thesoftware7304h ago(Edited 4h ago)

@Versus
Huh? What?

Bro you really should relax, if what you read was some kinda negative against Sony.... seriously, is that what you got from the comments?

Bro, he was debunking the rumor, and gave perfectly good reasons why it would be unlikely, and your Nintendo Direct comparison is different, as this is supposed to be a BIG Sony showcase, not a surprise 20 min direct, and Sony 's pattern has been one week.

Slow down warmonger.

VersusDMC4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

@thesoftware730

"1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event."

That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind?

And it's not like they need that many resources to cover the stream. They just need 3 people to react to the stream live and make some easy articles made up mostly of summaries of Sony provided press releases. They would have enough time to "prepare" if it was announced with one days notice.

Petebloodyonion2h ago

@Versus
" That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind"

No, it simply implies that some media all over the world might (keyword MIGHT) not properly cover the event like having proper articles for each game announced, or having a proper preshow. maybe some popular YouTubers won't have time to prepare or simply your local newspaper doing an article on tech and game.

So why would Sony take a chance?
What benefit would that give them?

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Petebloodyonion4h ago

Before I get tons of replies for Sony given a week in advance, my initial comments are related to the notion that the Show could happen this week as the title mentions.
Now to be fair the complete article mentions that Jeff said the Show could happen later in May giving time for Sony to give the normal 7-day notice.

Again not trying to start a negative thing here just thinking that it's bogus that Sony will have a show this week

notachance3h ago

Yeah as much as I’d like to hear what sony’s 1st parties have cooked, it’s not their style to shadow drop a showcase.

Still waiting for ghost of tsushima 2, I’m ready whenever man..

KwietStorm_BLM15m ago

You're assuming media outlets don't know about it.

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Hofstaderman3h ago

Going in with no expectations but likely will see something that resonates with me.

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MultiVersus Joker Trailer With Mark Hamill

Here is a look at the new Joker Trailer. Warner Bros. Games today released a new MultiVersus trailer revealing the first look at gameplay for The Joker, who will join the roster as a playable character when the upcoming free-to-play platform fighter videogame launches on May 28th.