A study in fanboyism: Crytek calls out IGN | Warp Zoned

Warp Zoned writes:

"I can't say I'm surprised by IGN. After all, this is a site that has its top editors cranking out articles about how Xbox 360 exclusives in one year are better than PS3 exclusives in another year. However, this time they may have bitten off more than they can chew."

[kevnb]

wow, this guy just wont shut up now.

[DatNJDom81]

Hey crytek dude is speaking the truth about ign though. I give him props for that. I haven't played the demo so I really can't comment on the Crysis 2. But from all the venting I see here, it looks like we PS3 owners get the shaft again. But my question is this....... Why are PS3 owners mad that this game is flawed? With so many exclusive down the pipeline who gives a fuck about a gimped multiplat? Guys its not that serious. If your not happy with Crysis 2 don't buy it. Simple. Killzone 3 still is the best shooter out in my opinion. Just let the bots cling onto yet another multiplat and claim that "the PS3 suxorz! It can't do multiplats. We winzzz" bullshit. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for uncharted 1 gfx on 360 though. Anyone?

[strifeblade]

uhh you obviously dont know graphics when u say 360 cant do uncharted 1 graphics.BTW uncharted 2 is overhyped in the graphics department if u ask me.

as a multi plat owner of all 3 consoles i have always noticed multi plat ps3 games flawed, although it occurs less now.

im not a 360 fanboy but it is my preffered console for my reasons, however mgs4 is my fave game eva.

Still gettin crysis 2 on 360, the game looks good and if u only have ps3, it doesnt mean u should pass it up if its the inferior version.
ull miss out on a lotta good games goin by that logic.

Remember ps2 was technically the worst of 3 consoles in terms of graphics but that dont stop ppl from playing multi plats back then, and ps2 had most exclusives too

[yakuzakazuya]

@ strifeblade

As a multiconsole owner, I have not found a single 360 game, multiplat or exclusive that looks as good as the first Uncharted. Even the newest Unreal Engine game Bulletstorm looks dated compared to Uncherted: DF.

[Vherostar]

"I’ve gone on the record saying that if you stick PS3 and 360 side by side I would challenge anyone to find any meaningful difference. I don’t see it at all."

As is the most with 90% of multiplatforms the difference is always so minor you couldn't tell just by playing it but these sites HAVE to have a winner and picks one for minor reasons like better colours or whatever. It's all a joke and only a couple of games like FF13 have massive differences.

[D3athc3ll]

@ Strifeblade

You obviously haven't played Uncharted 2, and if you have played it, ur just blind!! Or dumb!!

only 360 game that might beat Uncharted 1 could be Gears of War 3 with the new unreal engine crap!

Then again, Uncharted 3 is coming! 360 loose!

I has a friend = engrish

[MysticStrummer]

@strifeblade - Uhhh you obviously need new glasses if you think anything on 360 matches UC1, much less UC2. Maybe you mean you prefer the art design of some 360 games...? As for PS2 having the most exclusives, that was before MS convinced their minions that exclusives don't matter, regardless of the fact that exclusives have always been the measuring stick by which consoles are judged.

[ShadowJetX]

The reason why the PS3 fans are so angry is because of how hyped up this game was. At one point they said the PS3 version would run better then the 360.

Now I haven't played the demo, and nor do I plan to, so I can't come up with a opinion, but according to majority of complaints, the PS3 got the shaft again when it came to a multiplat release.

[lil Titan]

PS3 is shit when it comes to multiplat games, but it not the PS3 fault but these lazy developers. i was looking forward to crysis 2 since they said them selfs that they would take full advantage of the PS3 and 360 hardware. last time i listen to a developer thats bringing out an multiplat game. im expecting the worst for now on when it comes to multiplat. enjoy PC and 360 players PS3 does own the best exclusive title though. hope rage and Brink makes my comment obsolete

[zero_cool]

he still lied about his claims about his game from start.First he said crysis 2 was hitting cling of both the consoles then he said the PS3 was running crysis 2 at a top level & identical to the pc version & even went as far to say his game is running better then any other game running on PS3's hardware then afterwards said the 360 & PS3 versions were running crysis 2 on the same level & the pc was running crysis 2 on a much higher level then consoles were so this guy has changed his claims around more times then i care to remember & was differently full of himself to think he could outdo the other developers on PS3 because that was utter bullshit.

[strifeblade]

ewfrw

[ThatIrishGamer]

The 360 version is so dumbed down that the HUD doesn't move on screen. . .it's just stuck in place. On PC and PS3 the HUD moves to add to the immersiveness of wearing the suit.

[Inside_out]

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Looks great on PS3...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I have no idea why the PS3 reviewers want to cry. It looks gorgeous and the level of detail in this map alone sinks other PS3 games.

[xAlmostPro]

It looks good although only the enviroment..

If you also listen to the video he says ps3 version suffers from frame rate issues..

It does look nice on the front of things and has nice lighting.. but there's never anything happening, no effects or particles or anything that make it immersive :/ the demo's alright though and it's not AS bad as it's being made out, although crytek did hype it to much

[RumbleFish]

Honestly: how dumb do they think we are? Or blind?

I don't care if there's a difference between the versions. The game looks terrible on PS3.

They just want to sell their crappy game and lie to consumers.

[Vherostar]

Looks terrible on ps3?? Then must with 360 as the difference is so negligible the average person without testing equipment couldn't tell the difference so SHOO fanboy SHOO.

[RumbleFish]

Yeah you're right, I am a fan of Playstation. So what? I said I don't care if there's a difference between versions. The only thing I care about is my experience with the demo.
The demo looks terrible on PS3. It may look terrible on 360 too, but I don't care cause I don't own a 360.
Neither do I want the game to look better or worse on any console. I just want good products and Crytec don't deliver that.
Crytec are trying to sell a really bad product and they lie to us consumers.
It's them to blame!

[PotatoClock]

"Neither do I want the game to look better or worse on any console. I just want good products and Crytec don't deliver that."

I'm sorry, but when does graphics make a good or bad game? Are you too dumb to realise that consoles have graphical limits?

Just because a game doesn't look as good as you thought, its suddently a "bad" game?

If you want a fantastic looking multiplat then buy a fucken PC instead of whining about a graphicaly inferior version on a console.
What the hell did you expect?

[RumbleFish]

I expected something better than this. The first Crysis was well known for it's graphical strength. Crytec said they would make use of every platforms' strengths.
Judging by the demo I find they did not do what they promised.
I find the demo bad and I find graphic is an important part of the quality of a game. Graphic is not everything but it still is important to me, because what I see and what I hear are the informations the game can give me. Controls are the third important part of a game because it's my input to play. Gameplay is the fourth part. For me all four parts heve to be polished and refined. That is how i define quality. This is my opinion.
With this demo Crytec gave me enough information not to buy thier product.
I am not dumb and I don't whine and I don't think that I insulted you so I would appreciate it if you do not insult me. This is a place for opinions and if it bothers you how I find the game, I'm sorry you have to deal with it.

[finbars75]

Crytek is going to be called out after there game has flopped.Do they relize they bit off more then they could chew.They truned there backs on the pc world,they give consoles a broken half ass sub hd game that was suppose to blow our minds visiually.All in all good job on making an ass of yourself Crytek.See you on the other side.

[Moragami]

Both consoles suck, and so do their cheerleaders, get a clue people, nobody wants to hear you justify your choice of platform. Especially when the differences are so negligible.

PC forever.

[BeaArthur]

Every site has fanboys and every small site tries at sometime or another to call out one of the big ones in order to get noticed. Same sh!t different day.

[Lamarthedancer]

I wonder if IGN will respond...

[BeaArthur]

Why bother? If they address this then they will just be giving them exactly what they want...more traffic.

[BubbleSniper]

Crytek on damage control!

cant wait to see where PC ver. stand in all of this.

my friends on Steam say it will be dumbed down and lost faith

in Crytek.

not gonna call judgement on Crysis PC jus yet... and it baffle me how DX11 may not be ready for PC launch... this game irritating and have not even played yet.

didn't bother to touch leaked, unfinished PC build, fyi

[Shackdaddy836]

Dx11 isn't ready for Shogun 2 on release either. And thats a PC exclusive...

P.S. If you did touch the leaked PC build and were tech-savy enough to look around the .cfg files, you would see that Crytek hasn't even shown their highest setting yet. There still is a higher up setting than "Hardcore" (I'm guessing it's "Enthusiast" or something). Although too many people are busy complaining to pay attention to that fact....

[Megaton]

I wasn't aware that the developers behind Shogun 2 had a graphical pedigree on par with that of Crytek. People are totally justified in having high expectations for Crysis 2's graphical prowess, and are well within their right to rage over those crushed expectations and severe display of consolitis in the demo. Crytek built the reigning PC benchmark of the last 4 years. Their name is synonymous with pushing graphical boundaries. The logical assumption would be that they'd go bigger and better for the sequel. Doesn't appear to be the case. Not even close.

[Shackdaddy836]

That doesn't mean its justifiable to complain about a feature that will be out in a patch THE DAY OF RELEASE. Honestly people...You guys are just annoying...

[zag]

DX11 has been out ever since Win7 has been out but it's only in Win7, MS will never release it for anything else until Win8 comes out unless they do DX12.

And those "settings" are generally how tough the game is.

Crysis has baby going all the way to hardcore or real hardcore, which simply meant everything was the same as easy mode just that you didn't get told about grenades and shown where they'd land, and everyone spoke in North Korean so you didn't know what they were saying etc.

and you could be one-shotted by sniper etc.

nothing new or major there.

[Shackdaddy836]

@zag
settings from .cfg files:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
also known as:
gamer, advanced, hardcore, ?????, PS3, xbox
Thats what I'm talking about. As you can see '4' is not known yet which will probably be enthusiast. It is also labeled in the .cfg files as "very high".

I think the difficulty will be something like
easy, normal, hard, delta

[zag]

Um DX11 is already out, it's in Windows 7.

And the only place you can use DX11 is on Windows 7, with a GFX card that also supports DX11, which is just about all of the released cards these days.

The main problem is there's been very few PC games released that make any use of DX11.

That's why you can still use vista for all the newest games and don't have to worry about upgrading to win7 or have a DX11 GFX card.

[godsinhisheaven]

Useless article...

[palaeomerus]

Yep. Bitching at IGN for writing their opinions and trying to drum up a huge controversy about it with Crytech is NOT NEWS.

Story quality? = WTF?
Like this website = No

[SSKILLZ]

Hmmmm I want to hear more about this on podcast beyond and what went down and if they have played the final product not the demo.

[moparful99]

Thats the exact point I brought up in the forum about the differences in the demo... ITS A FREAKING DEMO!!! The code that most companies use for a demo is pre-release meanin the polish is going to be less then the final product.. My God people on here just take an inch of truth and try and turn it into a mile... Wait until the final game comes out before making any claims..

[Christopher]

More often than not, though, demos do tend to reflect exactly what one would see at release. Demos are marketing tools and the portions that they show in them are made to look as good as they expect them to be at release. Changes between a demo and final release will most likely be negligible.

As far as Crysis 2, I tend to wait for Digital Foundry and/or Head2Head comparisons (preferably the former over the latter).

As far as the comment made, it can be twisted however they want. He said "meaningful" difference, which just leaves it open to mean only elements that affect gameplay and not actual equality overall.

[moparful99]

I don't know man cause for me the mass effect 2 demo was significantly different then the final game for me.. Just like mafia 2 as well the demo was pretty bad graphically but the final release was quite a bit better..

[Christopher]

***I don't know man cause for me the mass effect 2 demo was significantly different then the final game for me***

Not for the PS3 it wasn't. The only differences were extremely slight lighting changes with scenes involving Miranda.

[cochise313]

Crytek has been caught with their pants down and now they are trying to deflect. The ps3 version looks like sh!t and now they're catching hell for it. They should have never kept saying this will be the best looking fps on consoles.

[moparful99]

Based on what? Thats righ a demo moron... It's not the final build!! I love how people think demo=final product...

[cochise313]

yeah uh huh. The final build is going to change within in a week of demo release? Shut your stupid ass up. I'm going to stick to kz3 while you play that bullsh!t.

[moparful99]

Dude seriously mass effect 2's demo was inferior to the final release, God of war 3 changed quite a bit from the demo to the release, mafia 2 etc... A demo is primarily designed to give the consumer a "feel" for the game.. Very little can change by release but on the other side of that coin a game can undergo dramatic changes as well.. When a company gets the gameplay locked down they can spend the remaining time just adding extra polish.. Seeing as I'm pursuing a degree in 3d animation and design I'm pretty sure that I have a good idea of how quickly it can change....

[Acadius]

Who cares? I own both systems and I'll play this game on whichever I decide on. Do I get compensated for play on a certain system? No. It's the same game on either system that tells a story for the player(s) to enjoy. Period. These fanbots are just annoying and act like money comes out of their pocket whenever someone buys the opposing system of their choice.
Try being mature. It's nice.

[MGRogue2017]

Crytek, Why are you lying...? :(

[sickbird]

The 360 version CLEARLY looks better than the PS3 version. Crytek sucks, stick to something you can handle like the PC.

[Silly gameAr]

But the 360 version doesn't look all that great either though man. Crytek pulled a fast one on us all.

[cochise313]

They thought they pulled a fast one. Those numbers aren't going to look so hot.

[sickbird]

I agree neither console version are anything special.

[firefoxprime]

Its a "DEMO" you imbocile.
(Now go google that word. Yes. Do that.)

Stop jumping to conclusions.

[MysticStrummer]

At firefoxprime - Go google "imbocile".

[darkman86]

WTF CRYTEK ?!!! the game looks and run like sh!t on ps3!

[Ju]

Maybe. But not because of the visuals. Guys, calm down. Doesn't look that bad. Its no KZ but still looks better than most games.

I don't like how it plays, though (but that was expected). Old school shooter (I stick with it).

Not sure why all the text is so tiny. Can't read nothing on screen. Yeah, I have a 37" and set 6ft away. Sorry. No PC monitor. At least it scales to 1080 on the PS3. Not sure why it does that, though...

[kevnb]

because its way subhd, they had to scale anyway.

[Ju]

It scales lines from 1024 to 1280, but does not expand (or scale) the number of lines for 720p while for 1080p they need to scale horizontally, too. (not sure why I try to explain this here...LOL)

[SnakeMustDie]

MAXIMUM Damage Control

[kevnb]

when a dev aims at making money instead of making a good game this is what happens. Even devs like bungie and the former infinity ward just tried to make the best damn game they could. Crytek went in there and just made something they think will sell, insulted pc gamers for no reason, lied to console gamers, and worst of all they just wont shut up. I swear they went insane when they could come close to halo 3 in sales, not even thinking about the marketing involved or what halo means to xbox gamers.

[hellzsupernova]

i cannot believe they would think that at all! Halo3 sold amazingly well i have the metal tin collectors myself

[dmonee]

I see a huge graphical divide in both versions screenshots. Which doesn't mean either one looks bad. They just look different. I noticed that the PS3 and the PC shots look alomst identical, where as I found the Xbox360 to look somewhat crisper. There also seems to be different objects in the 360 version that are absent in the PS3/PC version. Either way, the game looks great on all. Having just played the PS3 multiplayer demo, I have to say that I'm actually excited now. Before today, I could have cared less. But seeing that March has been a ehh month, with Dragon Age 2 and Homefront bringing in mediocre praise. Crysis 2 may be the March hit we've been looking for. Lets also not forget about Shift 2. Speaking of which, where is the Shift 2 hype machine? You would thing by now we would be getting some fast and furious previews. This concerns me. No coverage, No screens, No demos yet.

[kevnb]

dragon age 2 is actually a terrific game, it just wasnt what alot of origins fans wanted.

[RedBullGT]

the thing that pissed me off about this was that they bragged how nothing on consoles looks better or will look better than crysis 2 and when you talk crap like that, you better back it up.

[mrv321]

The superior version of Crysis 2 is infact Crysis.

[Shackdaddy836]

Maybe it will end up looking better at launch or after a patch... I mean, why would they persist this comment and why would that PS3 magazine support that comment if the PS3 version looked horrible... I will still stay optimistic on this.

[stonecold3]

im glad im not getting crysis 2 sorry killzone owned crysis on consoles

[palaeomerus]

I'm already tired of Killzone3. Sure it looked nice. the campaign was short. The multiplayer got old in about three weeks. I'm done playing it and looking forward to Crysis 2.

[ablecain]

IGN is terrible for game analysis. Their reviews and features are often poorly written and the scores sometimes seem to come out of nowhere... No doubt they've gotten better since Matt Cassamassina left, but it's still not a website I trust for reviews.

[Tyre]

the guy is telling the truth both versions are same..like exactly the same. i compared them on the same TV hooked both systems via HDMI and tell honestly no difference at...maybe a slightly better connection speed increase on the PS3 resulting in somewhat smoother play..but that will still depends on each individual internet connection. don't believe the critics..maybe the guys who supply N4G with these trolling Journalists articles have hidden agendas, cause i cannot comprehend why they manage to fool people(with a game that looks virtually identical on both consoles)into thinking that the PS3 version is inferior...the lemmings repeat each other Jiving about how crap it looks, it does not look crap it looks good, sorry folks PS3 owners and Xbox 360 owners can enjoy the exact same game! thx Crytek...amazing job!

[Flexatron]

Exactly. From reading comments on this site, I was expecting the worst, but I played the demo last night and I didn't experience dipping framerate, screen tearing, hit detection problems, or connection issues. After looking at comparison shots at lens of truth, I expected this game to be a blurry mess, but when I actually played the game, it actually looked pretty good and I didn't notice hardly any blurring.

[Quartx]

You got some brown on your nose there.

[MidnytRain]

Hey, guys. Guess what. I played the PS3 demo and had FUN. You graphics obsessors can pick at the technical things if you want, but I think I'll just play the darn thing. I really liked the gameplay (for any of you that actually stopped to think about this aspect. Yeah, that's right; the OTHER part of the game).

You see a ton of people on this site that always post 'gameplay>graphics' , but when this game is near release, there's a whole bunch of people bashing the developers for not making all the versions look and run exactly the same.

[iNMyFiN4LH0uR]

truth is graphics are very important, they rank up there with gameplay. imagine two people getting the same corvette with the same color but one of the paint jobs is a little bad, performance wise they are the same but obviously the physical appeal of the car is also very important. i havent played the demo myself but the screenshots have the forums on fire. There is clearly a difference. However, bear in mind, the people who took the screenshots might not have appropriately setup the settings OR purposely wish to defame Crytek!

[blackburn5]

Nothing ever changes. Here we are again going on about the 360 version looking better, the PS3 version looking worse and the PC version looking the best. Does it ever end? I could list several PS3 multiplats that look just fine e.g. Batman AA, Bioshock 2, GTA 4, Condemned 2 Bloodshot,ME2 but the minute the graphics seem to take a dive on the PS3 or look even slightly different people get in an uproar.

Don't get me wrong, Crytek might be yanking our chain but I would like to say that multiplats don't play or look as horrible as the media or fanboys would like you to believe. Remember the whole thing with the ME2 demo and it ended up being fine despite all the comparisons and accusations. Just calm down.At least wait until the game comes out before you start the Crytek crucifixion. @ Shackdaddy836 and pepbizmo. Thank you for talking sense in asea of ignorance.

[Tyre]

Thank you...and thank urself for being rational about this...the game will prove itself...don't believe the critics, judge with ur own eyes..many people here draw conclusions without even have played the demo, let alone the campaign...it's such a shame it seems some journalists delibrately try to fool people, so pathetic...Crytek and other developers deserve an honest opinion. These games don't spontaneously spawn out of the ground, it takes very talented people and long hard work to make these games and journalism is so spoiled and cheap these days.

[hellzsupernova]

just confirming what everyone with a ps3 already knew about ign that they a biased fanboys that will do anything to please microsoft. ign you have sunk to a new low. I have supported ign on here a few times but now i will no longer

[BeastlyRig]

This is nothing new!! They had an article on Ureal Engine 3 with dx11 & all they talked about was what it could mean for the 360!!

At the end of the day you can't spell ignorant without IGN!!

[tudors]

What's all this it doesn't look good on any platform, we have seen the 360 footage and it looks fantastic, the stuff I have seen on the PS3 looks fantastic, you are judging the game on a few online issues and some poor screenshots, the single player footage I have seen is exellent on the PS3, perhaps the fact that most of you cannot connect on PSN suggests to me that the problem is more a online issue than graphical issue, perhaps when the other stuff is fixed the rest will follow?

[starchild]

Exactly. It still looks great on the PS3. It's just that now that they found out it looks better on the 360 they have started a huge hate campaign against the game. It's really unfortunate. The game might end up looking better in the retail copy anyway.

[xtreampro_REVENGE!]

It seems a lot of you don't know how to read, he clearly said 'MEANINGFUL' difference.

[DATNEWYAWKER]

This confirms for me what I thought all along. This whole Console war and fanboy shit is all relative. If you prefer the 360 to the PS3 it doesn't matter what anyone says even if the person or persons who made the game says it's the same you'll say no! no! no! the 360 is better! And vice versa.

Does anyone remember when IGN ran two videos of the same game (I forgot which it was) and said that one was the 360 version and one was the PS3, and everyone went nuts about how much better the 360 version was? Only to find out that IGN made a mistake and both versions were the 360 version. They apologized and then posted the PS3. Just saying.

[danthebios]

so IGN is xbox360 fanboys?!that sucks

[Orionsangel]

Does this mean that IGN is the Fox News of the industry and the Xbox 360 is equivalent to Republicans?

[SolidLatino]

You hit it right on the money.

[Game0N]

wow orion, u get a bubble for that enlightenment. son fukin true, ps3 fans are democrats cos we care about the people!

[zeal0us]

oh IGN the same ones gave global agenda a bad review then got caught red handed...and did a re-review.

personally I could care-less which outperform who, long as I get to play it.

[gypsygib]

IGN is full of fanboys, they used to be great now they've become like Edge but I don't think it was intentional.

[gypsygib]

I think both versions are disappointing, they'd look good for multiplats if the graphics weren't to hyped.

IGN is shit though (for reviews and previews), they claimed Crysis 2 was the best looking game on consoles a while back.

[PSNghost88]

EFFIN A COTTON!! When he said "I’ve gone on the record saying that if you stick PS3 and 360 side by side I would challenge anyone to find any meaningful difference. I don’t see it at all." That was from an interview with me. Next time i get info like that I am posting it immediately.

[Orionsangel]

Thanks Game0N!

[yakuzakazuya]

I'm getting the 360 version because I have an outdated PC. Thank God I have KZ3 though.

[RandomDude655]

Both IGN and crysis 2 are awful, so who really cares.

[creepjack]

Except it's not only IGN that is saying this. Nice try Crytek, but the truth is the truth, no matter how much it pisses off you or the PS3 fanboys. They are just pissed cause someone is dissing their precious game. This aint the cushy word of PC gaming anymore, learn to deal or get out.

[EditorAtGNG]

People and graphics these days... so much hate.

[peeps]

Crysis 2 on ps3 is the worst version, get over it. Of course the guys at Crytek will say all versions are the same cus they don't want gamers who only own a ps3 being put off from buying the game

[RAmar101]

Tried the 360 demo. Looks sharper everything else is the same. Hit detection and gunplay is pants, all of a sudden u die and looking at killcam the other guy looks as if he's spraying all over, and lol at the death animation u just collapse like a sack of spuds.

Its not that big of a difference between the 2, I'm sure both will score the same, but tbh putting killzone 3 on it was just so much better, playing the map with massive cruisers firing at each other in background and a massive animated nuke mushroom cloud in sky it looks terrific compared to crysis 2

[OdinFallen]

There are latency issues on the killcam, not hit detection issues.

[Chaos23]

WELL crysis 2 is gubba get a bad score from IGN cause of this

[Chaos23]

but yeah IGN IS full of fanboys!

[Master of Unlocking]

"I can't say I'm surprised by IGN. After all, this is a site that has its top editors cranking out articles about how Xbox 360 exclusives in one year are better than PS3 exclusives in another year. However, this time they may have bitten off more than they can chew."

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Wow, IGN are really gonna have to change their tune, their bias is now apparent to everybody! :)

[zero_cool]

The PS3 gamers have not forgot his bold claims that obviously blew up in his face & he deserves whatever criticism he gets for his web of lies so he can go jump off a bridge if he likes!

[Mikey Mike]

IGN is bias. There are too many times that they hype a game, then give it a 8 or 7 on the nit picky aspects. God of War and GT5 are just two examples. Another thing, I have always wondered why they review games when they drop out of the gate. Far to often, with comparisons, the game is improved after a patch or two.

[divideby0]

personally I dont care, I aint buying the game....
I played the 360 demo (since it first came out) and also the PS3 version(yesterday. IMO the 360 version looked better and I encountered frame rate drops on the PS3 version.
We have a 10M/5M solid cable connection and never have lag or issues with Live or PSN.
I really think the 360 version looked and played better and I went back to play both again and still feel the same.
Regardless, for ME, MP is meh and I aint buying it

[Xander756]

I never understood why IGN is always hailed as like the pinnacle of game journalism...

[josephayal]

Looks like IGN loves the XBOX 360 more than any-thing

[OdinFallen]

I've never seen so much nonsense and idiocy in the comments section.