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New Socom 4 screens doesn’t do the PS3 justice

Gamersmint: We’ve some new screenshots of SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs and we are afraid they aren’t as impressive as we were expecting them to be.

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Nitrowolf24809d ago

while i was expecting the game to look good, i wasn't expecting it to be a huge graphic power house like Killzone/Uncharted. It's all about the gameplay and team play for me on Socom games.

Focker4204809d ago

Exactly, Socom wasn't claiming to be a graphical powerhouse. Not every developer can do what Naughty Dog, Guerilla Games, and Santa Monica Studios can.

zootang4809d ago

Just like Uncharted it looks miles better in motion

theonlylolking4809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

At least they can use there game engine.

Redman224809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

Zipper's games are more known for their gameplay then graphics anyways so this will have no affect on my buying decision and still have my pre-order is locked in.

NiKK_4194809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

lol, this doesn't look that bad, saw the title and was expecting worse...but this isn't bad at all, i mean look at the last pic, look at the building and background

kaveti6616 an kon, it clearly only sounded like metal when they shot the cars and metal traikler buildings, they were just shooting the cars and buildings a lot, but you can hear every sound and it sounded good, you could hear glass, ground everything, it just seemed bad because they couldn't shoot, plus there's too much metal lol

BattleAxe4809d ago

I just hope the overall game ends up looking better than MAG.

Redman224809d ago

So are we going to see a similar article for HomeFront? Looking forward to it. : )

sikbeta4809d ago

Socom 4 will deliver, it's a great tactial 3rd person shooter, Devs didn't say they are going to raise a bar in the graphic department o something like that :P

Dogs_PinoyPOOD4809d ago

ND, GG, and SM are crazy at making graphics while also making awesome gameplay

ChineseDemocracy4809d ago

I think the game *looks* good, but not "great". Doesn't really matter though, for these types of games it all come down to what really matters; the gameplay.

nycredude4809d ago

Why does it appear that with everything that SOny releases there is some kind of negative bs from some stupid gaming sites associated with it. It seems like people are always trying to pour cold water on every release. Seriously hte hate is so strong it really leaving a bad taste in my mouth this gen.

Pixelated_Army4809d ago

"Why does it appear that with everything that SOny releases there is some kind of negative bs."

American gaming sites are unbelievably biased against Sony because they know who pays they bill around here. Sony needs to step it's game up to sugar daddy status and start greasin' some palms.

Pacman3214808d ago

@zootang
Are you serious? Uncharted looks amazing in screen shots!

hay4808d ago

Looks adequate, what's the problem?

paintsville4808d ago

Bu bu bu but it's a ps3 exclustive and it's the bestest thing to ever be hatched from the beginnings of the universe.
NOPE. Like most ps3 Exclusives this one is more hype and fanboy promotion than anything else.

blahblah4808d ago

@thereapersson

looking good or not is not the question. no lobby system is a big minus. and if game uses same uncontrolled matchmaking as UC2, you're welcome to find one game where 1/3 of people don't lag. i can't remember one single game where i wouldn't be pitted against at least 3 people from other side of the globe. UC2 matchmaking is simply terrible. i was really pumped about socom 4 (one and only shooter after my taste) and you can't imagine how much i wish socom 4 would use P2P instead of crappy PSN dedicated servers. but, if game uses same crappy network as UC2 that is a deal breaker for me.

and what is with all this spray'n'pray? made game look downright terrible. either people playing are complete morons or game has infinite ammo (which would kinda suck).

MaxXAttaxX4808d ago (Edited 4808d ago )

Umm... what the hell are you talking about?

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Dante1124809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

None of the Socom games' graphics were a big or main highlight of the games anyway, but it still looks playable to me in motion. It's type of gameplay was always the biggest highlight of the games, much like that of the Rainbow Six games.

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AKA4809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

you are clearly blind bs talker.
have you seen the video gameplay? it looks to a u2 level but much more photorealistic, u2 looks to cartooned for my test but sharp and clean and so does S4 but with a more photorealistic art.
screenshots do not do justice to a nextgen game with a lot of details and particles and special effects doing trick that make the game looks good in motion.

btw the 45 girl looks photorealistic and the facial animations are amazing.
troll article are getting old.

Eyeco4809d ago

PS3 exclsuives have a reputation for being some of the best looking games on the market, lets not forget

Bathyj4809d ago

Doesnt mean they ALL have to shoot for the graphics crown.

I would have thought the haters who always say PS3 games are all graphics and no gameplay (sad little LIES, obviously) would welcome this focus on teamwork and gameplay.

SOCOM has NEVER been about graphics, this one is no different.

PS
In motion, it still look as good as 90% of games BTW. Just not as good as the PS3's best, but then, what else does?

MysticStrummer4809d ago

They have that reputation for a good reason, but Demon's Souls is still my Game of the Generation and it certainly didn't push the visual boundaries. PS3 gives you the best in both graphics and gameplay. I'm talking consoles here so relax, PC folk, if you are lurking. (and you always are in articles about console graphics)

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Parapraxis4809d ago

@Norio
Please tell me which ones look good, so I know how well you are trolling.

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hiredhelp4809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

This game eaither way you look at it is still miles better from confrontation. and to me even MAG. thats enough considering the gameplay put into this game and with MOVE TOO awsome. the graphics look sweet to me 2.

Death24944809d ago

People seem to forget that you can completely customize your online character.

Organization XII4809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

Socom will suck dick when it comes to graphics, I cant believe people will play that when the all mighty BF3 comes out on PC. #lol

shoddy4809d ago

go play your PC games and get the fuk out.

blahblah4808d ago (Edited 4808d ago )

some of us actually play games instead of judging pixels. i played a lot of games with crappy graphics that executed gameplay well and beat the shit out of the graphically excelent games. my favorite game is still demon's souls which is far from looking awesome.

if i'd be interested in graphics, my favorite game would be some photo album where i would masturbate on judging photo pixels.

VenomProject4808d ago

I can't wait for Battlefield 3 to release on the PC.

I also can't wait for Resistance 3, SOCOM 4, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, inFAMOUS 2, Journey, Twisted Metal and Yakuza 4...but you won't be getting any of those games, huh?

:)

shoddy4809d ago

now that's the real flak jacket, cover your whole body not just your chest like COD.

B00M4808d ago

For bomb disposal. And I bet you'll only be able to walk 1mph wearing it =D

Panthers4809d ago

With Socom gameplay, I would rather have a very smooth online with minimal lag than great graphics, which can cause slowdown online.

When each gunfight is so pivitol in Socom (since you do not respawn) then lag can be a very large issue.

blahblah4808d ago

lol, you are in the same boat as me then.

give me 8-bit with no lag and i'll be happy. the only deal breaker with socom 4 for me will be if they use dedicated PSN servers without region boundaries. they don't use lobby system, so this is kinda logical conclusion.

InTheZoneAC4809d ago

well they're taking away from the team play:

-Open mic, or in classic mode press up to talk, what bs

-Respawn, what other game out there that's respawn uses teamwork like Socom? Answer: none. Sure there's more tactical games than others, but none of them are Socom.

-Dual primaries. Need a sniper for backup, just pull one out yourself. Sniping but see a rusher, just pull an AR or SMG out yourself.

Jazz41084809d ago

What do you guys expect. The ps3 can create miricles with its limitations. We are very lucky do get what we have. The machine barley has a half gig of split ram. I have twice that in my pc 10 years ago. Ram is the limitations for both consoles as the cpus in both are still pretty comparable and decent.

WitWolfy4808d ago

You know the PS3 doesn't really depend on its ram to give you the awesome games you've seen in the past right??

ALL HAIL THE ALMIGHTY SPU's!

NeloAnjelo4808d ago (Edited 4808d ago )

Well put Nitrowolf2. Socom has always been about the core gameplay. I mean the game will look okay, but thats not its main focus. I'm sure Socom Vets would agree.

I think the engine looks very similar to the one used for MAG.

Tapewurm4808d ago

Game looks fine and will most definitely play fine....will be splitting my time with Killzone and Socom .......Already sold my various copies of the CoD's back....been waiting for a true Zipper Socom game for a long time :) Can't wait to get back to the daddy of all shooters.

otherZinc4808d ago

This game looks terrible.

I told you guys a long time ago, when the PS3 has a game thats huge & ambitious, it will look terrible.

It isn't the developer, its the PS3.

If Uncharted, Killzone, & God of War had large playing fields & co-op as found in SOCOM, they'd look like crap as well.

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psb4809d ago

are these from the final build? They sure look sketchy to me. Expected to have better visuals, surely no Killzone 3 but atleast better than this. I hope the mp part lives upto my expectations, else I'll be renting this.

The_Claw4809d ago

if you clicked on the link then gamersmint got what they wanted. "they aren’t as impressive as we were expecting them to be" Then you were expecting too much. Socom isnt about graphics, its about gameplay.

MGRogue20174809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

The game looks way better in motion..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

kaveti66164809d ago

So no matter what you shoot it sounds like metal.

Kon4809d ago

I noticed that too. Strange.

MysticStrummer4809d ago

Yeah... except it doesn't. I heard a variety of impact sounds. You may need to upgrade your sound system.

kaveti66164809d ago

I was exaggerating a bit. After listening again, I did notice different types of impact sounds.

Still, maybe these maps have too many metal-based objects because throughout the entire video the same sounds of metal being shot at were echoing.

Trroy4808d ago

...The gameplay in that video is in a junkyard, and on a city highway, and there's a load of bullets blying around, hitting concrete and metal.

I don't see your point.

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RememberThe3574809d ago

Wow people talk about how N4G is trolled. Youtube is full of haters and idiots lol.

starcb264809d ago

Youtube is more known that's why. Last time there was a retard saying the ps3 has no games with dedicated servers.

Zydake4809d ago

hey I subbed to Rajam too :D

DelbertGrady4809d ago

Could be that these are screenshots from the multiplayer, where graphics are usually dumbed down a little to keep the action smooth.

bobrea4809d ago (Edited 4809d ago )

Honestly, who cares? If they keep the gameplay from the original SOCOM games intact, I wouldn't care if it had PS2 graphics. People these days...

And seriously, try using proper grammar in your article titles. It should be SOCOM 4 screens DONT do the PS3 justice. And don't bother calling me a grammar nazi or any stupid shit like that, when you post an article you should at least have the decency to use proper grammar in it.

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Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises

Alex S. from Link-Cable writes: "Gaming’s past is full of wonderful memories, many of which include some of our favorite moments in all of video games and helped shape our current gaming habits. And, thanks to the awesomeness that is the PlayStation, many of these memories can be found in Sony’s franchises. But what happens when a great franchise or IP just disappears? While sometimes its just forgotten, never to be heard from again that’s not something that we here at Link-Cable can bear the thought of. So for this week’s Top 10 we are taking a look at the Top 10 Forgotten Sony Franchises and also crossing our fingers that someone with the power to bring these back just happens to stumble across this list."

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PhoenixUp2273d ago

Don’t forget Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, Legend of Dragoon, Freedom Wars, Invisimals, Lemmings, Modnation Racers, Pursuit Force, Resistance, Siren, Soul Sacrifice, Mark of Kri, & Wild Arms

darthv722273d ago

To be fair, many of those are not forgotten. They just ran their course while others were not given the respect they deserved to garner a continuation. Games that are one-offs probably had no intention of making them into series but I do wish they would rethink that. Some deserve to be given a follow-up.

UltraNova2273d ago

Agreed. Maybe Sony can contract Bluepoint to remaster Heavenly Sword, see people's reaction to the game and decide wether to give the go for a sequel.

Also Lair can be remastered es as a PSVR game and take it from there.

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Michiel19892273d ago (Edited 2273d ago )

Legacy of Kain would fit right in there, although sony has no rights to that IP as far as I'm aware.

Ah later instalments were not sony exclusive, so dont mind me sir :p

Xenophon_York2273d ago

Remaking the very first Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen would be amazing.

MWH2273d ago (Edited 2273d ago )

Maybe one day the coin will land on its edge.

Michiel19892273d ago

I'd prefer Soul Reaver but Blood Omen would do just fine as well

Godmars2902273d ago

To be fair, Wild Arms did run its course, was effectively run into the ground, going by example of last entry using characters from all games. Being an STG title on the PSP.

Could always revive the western/steampunk setting.

_-EDMIX-_2273d ago

I know right! I'm still waiting for someone at Sony to make the Getaway 3 lol

I always wondered what the PlayStation 3 version was going to be like.

SuperSonic912272d ago

CTR Remake please. Best kart racer ever made by Naughty Dog

Rangerman12082272d ago

Finally someone mentioned Soul Sacrifice, Siren, Legend of Dragoon, and Freedom Wars. Those games are in desperate of a new installment. Especially with Folkore.

Sitdown2272d ago

Lemmings is a PlayStation franchise? I would say Battle Arena Toshinden.

frostypants2272d ago

Lemmings was a franchise waaaaay before even the PS1 saw the light of day. Nobody's forgotten it.

thisismyaccount2272d ago

and ALUNDRA .. dunno if it´s a Sony IP or not.

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GBG_Jason2273d ago

I'm not sure single games would be considered franchises. If you want to say Heavenly Sword is one, I'd also put Enslaved on the list. Loco Roco is in the same boat as Patapon. But things like Tomba are certainly missed.

GBG_Jason2273d ago

Never mind me, you are absolutely correct.

Kleptic2273d ago

yeah, it was the Ninja Theory (same dev as HS), just not a ps3 exclusive

Michiel19892273d ago

It was a good game though, I wouldnt mind seeing a sequel at some point

Yui_Suzumiya2273d ago

There was going to be a sequel to Enslaved. Unfortunately it never left the drawing board. Hopefully someday it will be realized.

jznrpg2273d ago

Enslaved was super undervalued, loved that game

UltraNova2272d ago

....and in dire need of a Remaster!

FallenAngel19842273d ago

How can you all something a franchise if it only has one installment?

At that point it’s just an IP. You can only call it a franchise when there’s multiple installments.

SamPao2273d ago

you should look up the definition of a franchise.
If there is more than just a game, say merchandise its already a franchise.

_-EDMIX-_2273d ago

I understand what the Fallen is trying to say, simply saying how could you suggest a game with only one installment as a franchise in regards to a series in terms of multiple games.

Even though, yes franchise can be considered what you stated in this context that's not really what's being talked about.

SamPao2272d ago

yet still its what he was talking about. Maybe nexttime you should say "series"...

SurgicalMenace2273d ago

Legend of Dragoon? Sly Cooper?

Araragifeels 2273d ago

Sly Cooper is not forgotten. They even making a TV show, I am hoping they Remake the first 3 games from scratch like Ratchet & Clank did.

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Araragifeels 2273d ago

@DJK1NG_Gaming I didn't mention the movie because probably got cancelled since Ratchet & Clank movie flop and Sony might not take another chance but Sly Cooper is having it own TV series.

FallenAngel19842273d ago

Sly Cooper is getting a television series. Sony hasn’t forgotten about it

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Games to Play if You Miss SOCOM

Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
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LOOK_AT_THIS_I2450d ago

Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.

With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.

ONESHOTV22450d ago

the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC

USMC_POLICE2450d ago

You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour

Majin-vegeta2450d ago

Army training grounds its F2P.

ion6662449d ago

Insurgency Socom mod perfect adaption. Play it

C-H-E-F2449d ago

RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.

Also, in response to @lookatthisi

They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I2449d ago

No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.

FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.

(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)

C-H-E-F2449d ago

Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.

I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.

InTheZoneAC2448d ago

A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.

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Dear Sony – It’s time to revive SOCOM

Sean @ FG: "Dear Sony, We need to talk about SOCOM."

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Neonridr2489d ago

Aim Controller support too, heck just throw in VR while we are at it.

Neonridr2489d ago

to which one? You wouldn't like to be able to use the aim controller for socom? Using a dual shock is more believable?

And why can't VR be an option? I never said to make the game VR exclusive did I?

Silly gameAr2489d ago

No to both. If Socom comes back it needs to come back in all of it's old school glory.

Neonridr2489d ago

@Silly gameAr - so not giving people options is the way to go? I mean if you are so against the aim controller couldn't you just use a dual shock instead? Maybe I am asking too much to have choices to suit different play styles.

Kribwalker2489d ago

I agree liquid. Make it like old school socom. I wanna hide claymores in the grass again 😎

Silly gameAr2489d ago

It's good to have options, but those options just wouldn't suit a game like Socom.

XisThatKid2489d ago

Bring MAG back instead. Zippers last successful game

JackBNimble2489d ago

Not this shit again... you socom fans need to move on

morganfell2489d ago

I want the biggest challenge again - win Enowapi as a SEAL in Breach Mode.

Liqu1d2489d ago

@Neonridr No to both.

Socom 4 allowed you to use the PS Move, it was trash and a waste of development time. They could do a VR firing range or something and I'm sure it would be alright, but if Socom is going to return then they need to stick to basics and provide what fans of the franchise liked. Pointless additions like aim controller and VR support will only bloat development costs and make a revival more risky.

Skull5212489d ago

SOCOM was easily the best franchise on PlayStation, it is sad what has happened to it. I do however have a bad taste in my mouth after SOCOM 4 coming out then PSN immediately hacked and offline for a month... Still to this day I do not trust Sony with my credit card information.

sonarus2489d ago

Big yes to socom will pass on the vr tho

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USMC_POLICE2489d ago

They did that with move on ps3, it was absolutely horrible. Then again all of socom 4 was a train wreck.

Neonridr2489d ago

meh, would never hurt to give options. Move on PS3 was absolutely horrible because the camera sucked real bad. Fairpoint accuracy with the Aim Controller is picked up quite well.

Der_Kommandant2489d ago

No thanks, SOCOM 4 with move was the worst thing ever. The game was bad and that thing made it even worse.

SOCOM Confrontation was decent though.

XisThatKid2489d ago

Wasn't made by zipper it was a glitch mess and people hated on it until people didn't know what they had until it was gone. Then we got SOCOM 4. :(

madforaday2489d ago

Socom Confrontation was GREAT 6 months after the release of the game. Also, once they added the stupid Tilly that was when I quit. I tend to not complain about guns but the Tilly was a sniper rifle/shotgun. That gun was more broken than the IW-80 in Socom 2.

Liqu1d2489d ago

@madforaday That's when I quit as well. Pretty much everyone was using Tilly.

Movefasta19932489d ago

Confrontation was my first socom game and I loved it dearly...I would love a remaster of that if Sony aren't that bothered

madforaday2489d ago

@Liqu1d

Yeah, it was awful I remember in Blizzard you will have people camping with the Tilly and rushing with the TIlly, it was soo annoying.

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madforaday2489d ago

That is THE worst idea for a Socom type game. You can have the option of course, but no one will use it because a controller will take you down so easily.

WeAreLegion2489d ago

No, it won't. Even on Socom 4, the Move guys were owning the controller guys. It's much faster. Why would you think a controller is faster?

madforaday2489d ago

@WeAreLegion

HAHAH I really hope you are kidding I am sure the 20 people who were using it were owning with it lol ;)

madforaday2489d ago

Also, On VR I don't know how many 3rd person view games there are but I think that would be weird in VR having a guy right in front of you. If you make it 1st person you would be at an unfair advantage compared to the people who aren't.

WeAreLegion2489d ago

3rd person works really well in VR. Maybe games have it.

Movefasta19932489d ago

Socom is for the hardcore/competitive gamer,focus on making a great mp game first then add the bullshit for people who want it

LP-Eleven2489d ago

Yeah.....no.

OT: I'd be all for it! SOCOM is still one of those franchises that a "hidden gem" feel to it!

XanderZane2489d ago

Meh..
Dear Sony, it's time to revive Syphon Filter.

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Kribwalker2489d ago

One of my favourite games on the ps2. Socom 1/2 got a lot of playtime by me. This one, madden football and ssx3 were my first foray into online console gaming

81BX2489d ago

No sh!t. I was just looking up socom 4 videos last night lol

hit173882489d ago

Yes, slant six did better than them last time. Socom 4 was horrible. confrontation was the last good socom. Well after patches .

Sunny_D2489d ago

I remember that... the load times were haunting.

SolidDuck2489d ago

Not just normal patches. Like a year and half worth of patches. After that it was pretty good.

XisThatKid2489d ago (Edited 2489d ago )

Lol where you there during beta it was absolutely hilarious. GOD I miss that game.....i miss MAG too

81BX2489d ago

Confrontation had the best sounds in any shooter at the time.

luis_spartano2489d ago

Slant Six was shut down a while ago.

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SquidBuck2488d ago

Let's all write Sony that we want Mag 2! Let's make it happen!!! Come on people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hit173882489d ago

Yes to this. It's time look how well battlegrounds is doing. 3rd person shooters are doing a comeback and it's the only game PS4 is missing to make my dream list complete since monster Hunter already is coming and we have crash and a few other classics coming back.

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