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How Historically Accurate Was Red Dead Redemption?

1up puts a Western historian in front of the game to get his reactions.

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TheTruth894807d ago

who cares!

The game is a 10/10.

Rainstorm814807d ago

I second that...Its a game not a history lesson.

Here ill settle this John Marston doesn't/didn't exist so i guess history wins?

BLACKBOIJONES4807d ago

I dont care how accurate it is but it was not 10/10...I would give it a solid 9/10.

DeadIIIRed4807d ago

Agreed, unless there were motorcycles in the game, it came close enough

Ghoul4806d ago

aehhhh

how the hell can you make such a article when the devs clearly aimed (and said) that the game is a combination of all great western movies.

realism or historical correct presentation was never the target of RDR

FragGen4806d ago (Edited 4806d ago )

I'm fairly sure there was an undead/zombie outbreak in the New Mexico territory in the mid 1800s, I always assumed the expansion pack was based on that.

LOLWAT.

I think their next article should be on whether or not Sonic the Hedgehog is a reasonable depiction of real hedgehogs.

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kneon4807d ago

Another inevitable inaccuracy was the incredibly high murder rate. The "wild west" wasn't so wild at all, it had a much lower murder rate than today, but then that would have been boring.

hikayu4807d ago

you know , i always doubt these pseudo-statistic that always lead to consumption of how terrible today's world is . "Afghanistan's capitol have lower death rate for children than New York" , " was on yahoo news the other day . in my Statistic class , we dissect that hell out of that article came to the conclusion that the stat was not fully nor fairly conducted . in this case , i doubt anyone would keep a close count of the western front to make any statistic count at all . many of the frontiers didn't give a crap about sensus or anything thereof , survival is just part of their life .

kneon4807d ago

I agree that you need to be skeptical about statistics, especially when presented by the popular media. But the history of the US west has been well studied and there are many historical accounts from the time period that refute the common view of the wild west portrayed in modern books and movies.

Most people died of disease and injury, murder was rare. The murder rate was likely in the range of 1-2/100000, about the same as Canada today. The US is currently at 2-3 times that rate.

cowkimon4806d ago

"...Red Dead Redemption shares more in common with the western genre of films and old serial stories than it does with actual western history."

Though I do not agree with what you have to say, good sir, I will fight to the death for your right to say it.

There's a broader theme in RDR than just that of the dying American gunslinger - the death of the American frontier. NPCs talk about it. Marston discusses it at length. There are telephone poles running through the once relatively unblemished fields and valleys of New Austin, showing its affects at large. It's a huge transitional stage in the life of America that affected how people thought, interacted, and generally conceived their position in the world. Here's an old dead white guy discussing it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

"There's a town out there, and then the federal government comes in. I think that narrative is a little too neatly sequential. When Phoenix was created in the 1870s, it settled really largely to grow grain to sell to a federal army camp down the road. So state action in the west happened hand-in-hand, rather than the big evil American government coming to impose its vision on the towns."

Again, I disagree. This line of thought is too vague.

The 'forces of government and industry' arrived slower in certain areas than they did in others. Sure, train stations and army depots made great locations for towns like Phoenix or Denver because they provided a market for various ranchers and farmers to sell their goods. That doesn't mean that there weren't - and still aren't - thousands of ranches and farms deliberately located off the beaten path. Ever been to Eastern Montana? Take away the town Walmarts and satellite TVs and you've got yourself an 1890s time machine..

So John Marston killed enough people to make Al Capone look like he ran a day care center. That doesn't mean RDR is a historically inaccurate game. The Frontier Thesis, though it wears the mask of the traditional Hollywood gunman, is the historical heart of RDR. All the showiness that comes with it is - historically inaccurate and Hollywood inspired - is simply a fun and exciting way to bring that central theme alive to gamers. Plus, the rugged American hero, the great explorer and individualist, is equally as important in that it has been found in popular American media since the days of James Fenmore Cooper, and therefore resonates with America's identity.

The point - don't get too caught up in the little things regarding history in media. Red Dead Redemption is a great example of history being done right in a game, and should be emulated in the future.

DanSolo4806d ago

...It was like a window into the past....

But on a serious note... Playing the game did make me wish that they had made the final series of Deadwood... that show was fucking amazing and it was a shame they didn't complete it!

SeraphimBlade4806d ago

I always like it when I can learn something from games. Good to know this wasn't complete BS.

Red Dead: It's Edutainment! even when you tie hookers to railroad tracks.

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15 PS3 Games That Would Absolutely Shine as PS5 Remakes

GB: "With this feature, we talk about 15 games on the PS3 that should be remade for the PlayStation 5."

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kenpachi17d ago

You left out The Darkness games bring those back

fan_of_gaming16d ago

The head of Nightdive Studios has posted that The Darkness is on their list of games they want to do, so hopefully something comes from that

Yi-Long16d ago

Little Big Planet 1 and 2 deserve a mention, IMO.

Good call on Motorstorm, a game released 2 gens ago but still looks and feels so good. Motorstorm 2 and Motorstorm RC were gems as well. They followed up the Motorstorm games with the brilliant Driveclub, which still manages to put modern racing games to shame. Imagine closing down a studio as talented as that ... (!) Incredible.

A little 'arcade-gem' back then was The Last Guy, a top down 'follow the leader' snake-like game where you had to find and lead survivors to safety during an alien invasion, on terrible looking 'Google-earth' maps. Graphics were poor, even back then, but would love that same gameplay with modern maps and graphics.

Street Fighter 4, once it finally had a full roster, was quite good, but it was always an ugly game, sadly. Imagine bringing that back while using the current SF6 engine.

fan_of_gaming16d ago

Good suggestions, I'd be in for
LittleBigPlanet
LittleBigPlanet 2
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
Motorstorm: RC

purple10116d ago

God damn I love motorstorm so much

At the time I had a low-mid range sony 40” tv, The latency to the controller was waaaay too high, would to play a modern version

In saying that later I got a 3d lg tv and playing the 3d motorstorm in my bedroom with the environment crumbling around the track, was something special, specially compared to what others were playing at the time, will always remember that

Skuletor16d ago

Some good choices here and Resistance: Fall of Man is my most wanted PS3 remaster/remake. Not sure about their claim it was Sony's answer to Gears of War though.

CrimsonWing6916d ago

I’d rather have sequels than remakes. Look at Dead Space 1 Remake. Would’ve been cooler if we got a new entry and it failed with sales sealing the fate of a sequel rather than just replay the same game and it fail in sales and we never get a new entry.

Remakes are great for things like PS2 and earlier games to really get a crazy new graphical coat, but I think we should ease up on all these remakes and actually do sequels.

fan_of_gaming16d ago

Yeah for sure, sequels would be ideal. But in the current market environment where many big publishers are risk-averse, I'd rather get a remaster or remake that a developer can do on a budget that will be approved, rather than nothing for an IP.

Inverno16d ago

I rather they remaster and port over to PC and current gen all the games permanently stuck on PS360. Those games don't need remakes, they need to be given a chance to live again outside of their confined consoles and then give a few proper sequels. Like Sleeping Dogs, Motor Storm, LA Noir, should get another entry.

fan_of_gaming16d ago

Yeah I'd be fine with remasters of PS3 games too, they don't have to be remakes.

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Ex-Rockstar Dev Finally Explains Why Small Planes Randomly Crashed in GTA San Andreas

Former Rockstar Games Technical Director Obbe Vermeij has finally revealed why some planes would randomly crash in GTA: San Andreas.

Profchaos22d ago

This fly by feature was on the cutting room floor due to the random plane crashes and it's one of those things I'm so thankful made it into the final version as these random fly by and crashes make the world seem more alive on the extremely limited PS2 hardware you needed everything you could possibly get in a open world to convey that feeling.

And accross hundreds of hours of gameplay I probably died around 3 times as a result of these fly by failures but I loved every time it happened

isarai22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

It made the world feel more human, and honestly kinda insane that even today with all these open world games, almost no one can capture that like R* even when compared to their ps2 games

Skuletor20d ago

Lol, I remember those. I vaguely remember dying from one crashing into my car once too.

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For just $6 you can play the Red Dead Redemption port on Xbox and PS5

Rockstar Games’ shiny new Red Dead Redemption port is now on GTA+, and you can play it while claiming some tasty GTA Online benefits.

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Profchaos30d ago

Rockstar still strying to make GTA plus work
Should be $6 for the rdr game on sale not 6 bucks for a months playtime

Exvalos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I hear ya, 49.99 or whatever the price on that game is, is a bit stiff seeing as it's just a port.

anast30d ago

Why would anyone rent this game?

jznrpg30d ago

One of my favorite games from PS3 generation. I have the remaster as there was a buy 2 get 1 free deal a while back but the price they are charging for the port is way too high although not surprising at all.

CobraKai30d ago

Still tryna milk a dried up cow