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Dragon Age II Producer: DAII will be shorter than Origins but will get more DLC

The next instalment in the hugely popular Dragon Age franchise arrives next month and TGL recently caught up with the game’s producer Fernando Melo to talk about all things Dragon Age II.

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jriquelme_paraguay4828d ago (Edited 4828d ago )

EPIC Fail...
so... its an 60+10+10+10usd FUll game?

Darkfiber4827d ago

Welcome to the new Bioware.

evrfighter4827d ago

Is he saying it like its a good thing?. Was on the fence about this one but this seals the deal. No buy.

kancerkid4827d ago (Edited 4827d ago )

I still haven't bought DA:O, but now that the ultimate edition is out, I will get that.

Looks like I will be doing the same here.

Edit: Now that I have read the interview (Stpid for not doing in the first place), he says this:
"oh it’s probably comparable to say Mass Effect 2, maybe a little bit bigger than that. " Well, it took me 30+ hours to complete ME2, so I am not really worried anymore.

WhiteNoise4827d ago

@evrfighter

Just because you don't buy it doesn't mean you should miss out.

I mean after Buying DA:) collectors edition and the expansion.

Then having to cancel my pre order that was half price ($46aus) on DA2 because of the DRM....and losing my $10 deposit...now if I wanted to buy it I would have to pay the $88 everywhere else is charging. + DLC + DLC + DLC +DLC.

I also bought ME2 C.E.

They can 'gift' me DA2.

jakethesnake4826d ago

I believe they are trying to tell us "Wait and buy the ultimate edition and save yourself $200 in DLC"

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blumatt4827d ago (Edited 4827d ago )

Exactly what I was gonna say. This is getting ridiculous. DLC is a good concept IF and ONLY IF it's made AFER THE GAME IS MADE. I don't want devs. to just "conveniently" leave out certain parts that are then sold later on as dlc. That's bullshit! My opinion is that games are expensive as hell to begin with. No matter what system, the disc should be packed full of content. Leave nothing out. There should be zero empty disc space (whether it's Bluray or DVD). THEN, and ONLY THEN, should DLC be created and sold to the consumer. That way, we're not getting screwed over, as it is in this case with Dragon Age 2. I don't support any devs. that pull this kind of crap. That's why I'm through buying Call of Duty games. You buy a CoD game and then there's two three map packs that are priced at $15 a piece. Before the next CoD game even comes out, you've spent nearly $100 on that first CoD game. It's insane! Rant over.
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Wow! lol I got a disagree for being pro-consumer and pro-gamer. I'm saying we as gamers should get our money's worth and not be "nickel and dimed" 'til we're broke. If you disagree with that, then you're crazy!

DLC started off as a good concept, but few devs. are using it the right way. DLC should be made after the game is released and should be cheap. CoD map packs should be $5 AT MOST.

heroicjanitor4827d ago

It's up to people to decide if what is on the disc is worth the asking price. Forget about what isn't on the disc.

showtimefolks4827d ago

but after playing the demo for 2nd i am def buying for sure

its a console rpg no pause make moves and slow down my kind of a game fast paced action based

Iroquois_Pliskin4827d ago

What the hell is this...? I bet EA made Bioware do that shit...

DFresh4827d ago

Yep.
T_T
Pretty sure on Steam if you wait long enough will have a Deluxe Edition with everything on it for really cheap.
Gotta love Steam Deals.
:)

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wolfceek4828d ago

The demo sucked and I wont get if the dlc are free. Thats all games do now is make crap, patch patch patch and sell dlc ,dlc ,dlc.

Why were games rarely patched and usually worked well years ago? Because there was no harddrives so the games were quality out the door. If the game sucked its because the game sucked. Why do you think nintendo patches nothing. They make their games work. If it sucked its the maker but not it needing a patch or dlc.
I have all 3 systems and rarely use the wii , so this isnt a pro wii rant.

Anon19744827d ago (Edited 4827d ago )

Holy crap, what fantasy world did you live in? Back in "the day", when games shipped and weren't able to be patched they simply shipped broken and you sometimes wasted money on games that you couldn't even finish. You learned to rely on game reviewers to tell you when a game was fatally flawed so you didn't waste your time with a game that it turns out would botch a save 10% of the time, or cameras would get stuck in walls, or your character would just disappear for no reason, etc...etc.

This age that used to exist where every game shipped out of the door working 100% as it was supposed to is sheer fantasy. It never existed. Games shipped broken all the fricking time and at least now a company can do something about it. And you really believe that Wii games all ship in perfect, working order? Since when?

Patches are a good thing. I remember the days when a broken game was a broken game and there was nothing that could be done about it.

As for Dragon Age 2, I'd prefer a longer game and less DLC, but that's just me. That being said, Dragon Age's Awakenings DLC I think was the first DLC I purchased and actually played through from beginning to end. I actually liked the story better than Origin's story. And on top of it, they're saying DA 2 is bigger than Mass Effect 2, and that's a good thing. It's not like they're shipping a 4 hour game and then expecting you to shell out for DLC. Looking forward to this game.

WhiteNoise4827d ago

@darkride66

I think you'll find that back in the day developers didn't rush console games ou the gate full of bugs because they COULDN'T patch them.

I'm sure there were games with bugs but no where near as many as now and definitely not games that don't even work on launch day without a patch.

Don't make excuses for greed.

Redempteur4827d ago (Edited 4827d ago )

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"I think you'll find that back in the day developers didn't rush console games ou the gate full of bug"

in what timeline did you live ?

BACK THEN there were bugs ,lot of them. and sometimes it just broke the game. If you don't even know about that time period , then you weren't gaming at the time.

BlackTar1874827d ago

what a load of jargon. He does say it like its a good thing.

MegaMohsi4828d ago

so same price at DAO, shorter and we will have to pay more for the DLC??? Great.

NYC_Gamer4828d ago

so we have to pay extra for the complete game?count me out i will not let any company milk me for cash

shadowknight2034828d ago

seriously people? He just said that the game will be a little shorter than DAO, to think of it as ME2 in terms of length which in my book is good enough. Plus dont forget how much CGI is in this game compared to DAO was. in addition, he mentions that yes there will be more dlc, but c'mon what game nowadays doesn't have post release dlc. I for one am grateful since not only do I get to experience a great story that comes shipped inside the box, but afterwards I can continue to expand that story through dlc getting to know the characters even more as he mentions that the fans wanted more dlc geared towards the main character and his compainions so that's what im sure bioware will do mostly with the dlc. DLC is infact good in this case as the devs can give us more dragon age instead of a new dragon age al togehter which would mostly have them first creating a whole new engine, characters ect where in this instance the devs only need to focus on creating more story, thus we get more DA quicker in the process than having to wait out for a new sequel. CASE CLOSED

Silentmerc3nary4827d ago

I agree.
Mass Effect 2 took me around 30-35 hours to complete firs time through. I'm happy with that length for DA2.

gcolley4827d ago

this is what EA does now, that is the issue.

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EA Made Dragon Age and Mass Effect DLC Free On PC By Retiring The BioWare Points System

Immersed Gamer writes: "In order to replace the oppressive BioWare Points system, EA is making a large portion of the Mass Effect and Dragon Age DLC catalogs free for PC users.

For those of you blissfully unaware, EA and BioWare employed a payment system called BioWare Points on PC to pay for DLCs for titles like Mass Effect and Dragon Age. While PC gamers have been struggling with BioWare point’s unfair conversion rates and extremely scarce and cost-detrimental sales.

Console players have been allowed to purchase content in pieces through the appropriate Sony and Microsoft shops. For real money, and not BioWare monopoly bucks. In turn, console players missed out on some DLC content, such as Mass Effect 2 pre-order bonuses that have been repackaged into a DLC pack."

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TinkerNation667d ago

Great response to Ubisoft and their disgusting behavior. Ubisoft decide to take away DLC from people who paid for it, while EA give it for free to everyone when they realize their system sucks. Who would have thought that EA of all companies would be showing Ubisoft how it should be done (even if this is EA fixing their own mistakes as well).

Mobis-New-Nest667d ago

What goes around comes around and I promise you, Ubisoft will see their actions blow back on them when their diminishing sales numbers and stock taking a hit downward. That's the only way a company learns when they decide to be reactive instead of proactive.

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All BioWare Games Ranked from Worst to Best

BLG writes: "There was a time that BioWare games were the biggest deal in gaming. The Canadian developer’s legacy of all-time classics is well known. Mass Effect, Knights of the Old Republic, and Baldur’s Gate are some of the biggest names in gaming.

While BioWare’s quality has fallen off lately, there’s no denying the quality of titles in their portfolio. That’s why we’re going to dive in and rank every BioWare game from worst to best. By every, I do mean every BioWare game, even the ones you completely forgot about!"

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Orbilator826d ago

Ranked from worse to even more worse more like, they been on free fall for a fair few years now and I personally don't think any of there earlier games have aged well

autobotdan826d ago

Wow to think at one point in their history they made a Sonic the Hedgehog game..crazy

chicken_in_the_corn826d ago

Anthem is crazy underrated. I really enjoyed it. ME1 is Bioware's best imo

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Michiel1989826d ago

I actually put quite a bit of hours into Anthem but i dont think its underrated. It was a huge mess, server issues, gameplay issues, crashes, no endgame loop, too few different enemies, uninteresting gear. too few dungeons.

It for sure had potential and if they could have managed to keep the same gameplay of the classes but without the rest of the issues, this game could have been huge, but in the state in which it launched it was such a letdown. They partly fixed some of the issues, but it took too long. A grinding game like this needs to hook players from day 1.

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'Dragon Age' and Why It Sucks to Play Cult Favorite Games

Delving into a well-loved game or series years after its release, when it already has an enthusiastic and devoted fanbase, can be incredibly difficult. People can be casually mean on the internet without intending to, and that happens a lot when you say you don’t like something they do. Fans of the franchise take their love of the game very seriously. They’re fervent and devoted, which has its charms, but it can also feel like you’re disappointing them when you decide their thing is not your thing.

Snakeeater25950d ago

All dragon age games are terribly boring

Kerppamaister949d ago

Why'd you play DA2 if you thought 1 was boring?

Snakeeater25949d ago

Because of the reviews, I thought they could do better specially gameplay wise and the third one was even worst

spss11949d ago

I've never been able to complete a Dragon Age game. They always felt too rigid in design. I eventually think "why am I playing this over Witcher 3?" or pretty much any other rpg.

arkard949d ago

The same reason you read a different book, or watch different movies. Different world, characters, lore and story.

jeromeface949d ago

Idk, because maybe you completed the witcher 3? Not all of us like repeating a game over and over just because its the best in genre.

spss11949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

@arkard
Never found the story or lore of DA interesting. Inquisition was just generic evil dude with demon army wants to conquer world and you're the chosen one.

@jeromeface
I've played through Witcher 3 once, at the same time I was playing DA Inquisition. Hence the example. I never finished Inquisition and went on to complete Witcher 3.

Yui_Suzumiya949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

Well the first bored me but I loved 2 and 3. I could never get into The Witcher or Elder Scrolls but I enjoyed those as far as medieval themed RPG's go.

SegaSaturn669949d ago

I played inquisition and thought the story was pretty well done. Voice acting as well.

Lost interest when i found an ultimate weapon that could only be wieldable postgame. Like wtf would they let me even obtain it for?

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phoenixwing949d ago

Is it really a cult following if it's in the millions?

IanTH949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

lol Definitely a fair point. When a game is made and published by one of the largest video game companies on Earth, has at least 12 million sales between DA:O/DA2/DA:I, DA:I noted as being BioWare's most successful launch, and made EA enough money to greenlight a 3rd game? I'm thinking it's tough to argue that's niche :-p

If you take cult following on the face of it - a group of people who are highly dedicated & passionate about something - the author wouldn't be wrong. But they have to know that term is most widely associated with the group being small/the object being obscure, so it can't really apply here.

melons949d ago

Yeah, in what universe is a series with three games, a fourth on the way that's sold millions and is published by EA a "cult favorite"? Next you'll be telling me The Witcher 3 is a plucky and underrated indie.

IanTH948d ago

I've heard about this hidden gem called GTA V...

jznrpg949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

Cult favorite? It’s well known and sold fairly well and they are making a fourth game . I don’t see it anywhere near cult favorite status . I really enjoyed the first game and the third was pretty good (with failed mmo faults you could notice) but the second game was lazily made garbage .

Yui_Suzumiya949d ago

Second was the best game which is the biggest hot take I've ever had, lol

ElvisHuxley949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

Loved the first one, second was pretty good. Couldn't even get through the third one. Don't have high hopes for 4, but hey, nowhere to go but up hopefully.

moomoo319949d ago (Edited 949d ago )

DA: Origins was cool, but I got Mass Effect 2 at the same time and goddayum there was no comparison imo.

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